Jayson Werth Signs With Nationals, Shakes Up Free Agent Market
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2010 2:05 PM PST
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If everyone good eventually ended up on the Yankees or Red Sox, things would be boring. So, kudos to the Washington Nationals to shocking the hell out of the baseball world by signing Jayson Werth to a seven-year, $126 million deal.
Carl Crawford is smiling like a Cheshire cat right now.
The winter meetings begin in earnest on Monday.
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I stare into my crystal ball...
…and see after we trade Loney for another okay starter who’ll pitch from the bullpen, Ned Colletti will go out and sign Carlos Pena for 4 years 56 million. Then everybody will bitch and moan, and cry loudly about why didn’t we just keep Loney. Then I will try to return that Loney jersey I bought for 20 dollars at Dick’s sporting good eight months ago for store credit.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
The same process will be repeated...
… after Jonathan Broxton gets traded for blowing a 6 run lead in game 7 of the 2011 NLCS against the Phillies.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
do you think CC called and thanked Werth for this?
I bet he is sofa king pumped.
Carl Crawford is smiling like a Cheshire cat right now
Happy for him..
Probably only laughing for Washingon
Love it
Saw another tweet (can’t find it now) that said the Boston nightmare scenario would be for Crawford to sign with Detroit (so their V-Mart compensation pick wouldn’t fall one more round), for the Gonzalez deal to completely die, and for Beltre to sign elsewhere :)
GM Mike Rizzo said Werth for now is penciled in to play RF but he also said Werth can play both CF and RF.
NO ONE CAN BE KENLEY JANSEN!!!!!!
:)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
check and mate
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
(tips hat)
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 6, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
i could see the Nats wanting Loney, as I heard they liked him a lot, but would need to offer a better pitcher than Ely
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if that is a great package but I’ve heard worst offered for Kemp.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
I also like the picture
I’d almost forgotten what Werth looked like in Dodger blue.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
can't be king of the world
if you’re slave to the grind
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I move for a formal protest of that picture up top
Next, why not a picture of Pedro Martinez wearing Dodger blue? Or, hell, even better: a split pic of Pedro in Montreal gear and Delino in Dodger gear? Werth will always, to me, be the guy who couldn’t stay healthy for longer than half a season as a Dodger…and then moved to Philly and delighted in whipping our asses two years in a row in the NLCS. So please, post a new pic with Werth in a Philly uni, or something.
we'll see
how he produces in a Nats uniform, but sabermetrics only go so far in assessing a player and giving him that contract.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I like Werth
and the signing makes sense for them and their payroll and future payroll projections…if the Dodgers signed him for anywhere near that figure though, it would be sheer lunacy
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
can already see the headlines
126 million dollars for a player who has never had 100 RBI in a season. Madness!!
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Once
Again, it is always about the money. Does Werth equal more wins than Dunn?
by bhsportsguy on Dec 5, 2010 2:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Sure
But I would have been happy with either one.
Frank is still up front, we can’t get greedy around here.
of course...
seeing the Orioles throw insane money at Beltre isn’t out of the question, I suppose.
@neufaustcan
Boras says there is a mystery blog in the running for the services of Eric Stephen.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
from Yahoo's 10 questions for the Winter Meetings.
4. Who are we most likely to see riding the tea cup ride at Disney World?: Los Angeles Dodgers GM Ned Colletti. Not only was he one of the quietest GMs at the 2009 conference, but he already got some offseason work out of the way by acquiring Juan Uribe(notes) and Jon Garland(notes) while re-signing Ted Lilly(notes) and Hiroki Kuroda(notes) and shipping Ryan Theriot(notes) off to St. Louis. Given those tasks, he’ll have enough time to take in Epcot Center, too.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
that’s a mental image.
“WHEEEEEEE!!!!”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
while Logan White is just sitting there with his arms crossed. "Ned, don’t you think we sho — "
“NO! AGAIN! AGAIN! We got these fast passes for a reason dammit!”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
by Maddz on Dec 5, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
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"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Conjecture
Logan White has only defended all his picks until Ned trades them. At this I don’t think what Logan White thinks about Loney means anything, it is what Mattingly thinks about Loney.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
no
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going to need a process flow on my desk by COB.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
i will then look it over for 6.5 seconds, ask you 1 question that has clearly been answered on the process flow, then ridicule you for it and have you send it back to me. I will also have a full inbox and be out of town for three weeks, but still expect it to be done and submitted (under my signature of course, not yours) to the right people by COB Tuesday.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
So if Carl Crawford tries to use this to get paid, what’s stopping every GM from responding “Mike Rizzo is insane”.
Someone will pay him
what’s that we always say? It only takes 1 GM.
I expect Crawford to sign for 100/5 instead of 133/7, but that could just be me.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
I’m still upset at Pat Burrell signing for $1mil
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
The answer to this question simply has to be
>0
The Angels can, the Tigers could, the Red Sox may, I don’t think there is another Nationals coming out of nowhere, but it’s possible.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
totally OT lol
I’m listening to some LA radio via the interwebz, and I gotta tell you…there is a cognitive difference between the West Coast and South. Either that, or I am just not good at being a college/grad student and getting into things like Animal Collective, Dearhunter, etc.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I <3 Animal Collective. “Fireworks” is my favorite song of the last couple years.
Maybe I am such a hipster.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
Before they got mainstream? =P
I’ve been listening to “Spirit They’ve Gone…” more than anything from them lately.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
does this mean
LA radio plays AC and Deerhunter, or Nashville does? The alt/indie rock scene is big in both places I assume…
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
oh no
the kids here listen to that stuff. I turned on the iheartradio app and was greeted by Franz Ferdinand, Soundgarden, Muse, Everclear…Part of me thinks my musical tastes are about 10 years behind.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
mine are like 30-40 yrs behind
but I like my world
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Are the Nationals going to = Tampa Rays in terms of dominance?
Harper, Strasburg, Werth, Zimmerman, is a hell of a foundation..
Zimmerman is about to get spensive
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
The Rays did it primarily because
they had 5 starters stay healthy and pitch near 200 innings in 2008 and 2010. Actually, that is also how the Twins generally stay in contention.
For a small market team, you have to be able to get solid and durable starting pitching because your resources don’t allow you to go out and get more pitching once the season starts.
My point being
the Nationals are going to have to a much better job in building up their staff especially facing the Phillies and Braves 18 times a year.
Sure, but they’re nothing to sneer at; it doesn’t detract from BH’s point that the Nats need to get their pitching in order.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
but they spend like one
at least with the MLB team
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
They had no one to spend money on before
as no one wanted to play for losing franchise, but now players can see what they might be building.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
that is true
I wasnt trying to say it was completely their fault, but they still have a payroll of a small team, even with Werth’s deal
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
This is rather amazing
from ESPN:
Entering today, the estimated total value of free agent contracts signed by players with the Nationals and Expos since 1990-91 was $122.1 million (less than what Werth got).
The Phillies went from maybe having two picks in the top 35-36 to (if the Red Sox signed Werth)
Having a top sandwich pick and then picking in the mid-50s (since the Nationals first round pick is protected).
I think Im the happiest here
because Werth and Agon fucked over the Sox :)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions
You say that
until they still trade for Gonzalez without the extension and then sign Crawford.
In fairness, we've been building 'Ground Zeros' next to Iraqi mosques since March 2003.
The Red Sox read this comment and made the trade anyways :/
And they wonder why people hate them and think they are assholes
:)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
I know
I think 27 has something to do with that
:)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
Lose-Lose Situation
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Yeah, but this is like losing, versus losing and then getting pants afterwards while wearing boxers with hearts.
you guys do realize Im joking right?
I know Eric does, but Im not sure if iiidown and regfairfield have seen enough of my comments..
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
I'm guessing it's just some good ribbing
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I thought all Yankees fans knew that the cost of being the best team in baseball every year was they had to deal with all shit talking.
not according to this one girl i go to school with
apparently her fandom is on par with that of a Texas Rangers fan. As in, people shouldn’t talk shit.
/eyeroll.
I figure if you bring up however many championships you’ve won in a conversation, all bets are off, you better be able to walk the walk at that point. That’s why I’m ok with being a Lakers fan.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
No but you see we had to start Phil Hughes in the playoffs we’re so bad how could you make fun of us.
-Things that actually happened.
I really want to hurt whoever said that, lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Just bring her onto this site
I’m sure you won’t ever have to talk to her again.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Oh I dont mind it
I just wanted to make sure that you guys knew I actually wasnt this big of a dick
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
i know
you shouldve seen the shit I got at MLBTR when I starting posting there a few years ago…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Jason Campbell needs to make that throw
Murphy was wide open and 28-3 is game over.
So if Werth is worth this...
…how much did Ned really overpay for Barajas and Uribe, and how much did he just reflect the developing market? And, when will Burrell get a new agent?
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2010 2:58 PM PST reply actions
It seems unanimous
taking out the other deals, analysts and media say Werth was overpaid (I am guessing more about years than yearly amount)
from MLBTR
Manny Ramirez ($160MM, 2000) and Alfonso Soriano ($136MM, 2006) are the only outfielders to sign bigger deals than Werth’s.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
There’s two ways to win: draft good players, or pay good players. If you’re forced to value hunt, you’re screwed anyway.
Still, overpaying is overpaying. When does the overpay become the next new norm?
"Baseball is the heart of America, I would never do anything to besmirch our National Pastime."
by Little Blue Bicycle on Dec 5, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
It'd be nice if they'd hold on to win...
would make my dreams of the Jags winning the division much more plausible.
@neufaustcan
i am reading this line drives mailing
loge res, TD front row. and pavillion appears to have a VIP section in first few rows
is that bad?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
How much longer does he have?
I’m not advocating firing him, just wondering how the fan base feels about Ricky.
Apparently the UCLA kicker, Kai Forbath, went to Neuheisel late in the game and said he needed one FG to break the school record, and Neuheisel said “nope, he couldn’t justify it.” Down 21.
that’s kind of a dick move
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
asking the coach when you are losing?
yeah, I think so too
pansy ass kicker
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 5, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Strangely
I respect that
or not so strangely, as I think the kicking aspect is the worst part of an otherwise pretty decent sport
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 5, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
This
I’d have kicked him off the team for even bringing it up
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was wondering if he would put him to do that
but felt that Rick would not do that in that situation.
One of the many things that was strange about UCLA's football year
for a team that many thought played for field goals, they didn’t attempt that many.
One of the things that wasn't strange
was their record
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 5, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
We’ll see how “his” guys will pan out, even though UCLA’s best players were all Dorrell recruits – Ayers, Franklin, Moore, Jones…
This, from Bill Shakin's LA times article
Colletti also said he has no plans to trade first baseman James Loney or pitcher Chad Billingsley. If another general manager dangles a power hitter (Prince Fielder?) before Colletti and says the Dodgers can afford to trade Billingsley because they have four other starters, Colletti vows to just say no.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
YEAHHHHHHHH
That’s right Billz! Your spectacular ass is staying in Los Angeles! For now!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
This leaves me in a cold sweat:
He said he remains in touch with free agent Scott Podsednik, who finished last season in left field.
“Hey Pods…whatcha thinkin’ about?”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
“Wanna come to Orlando with me and go on the teacups? Logan said something about having work. Psh.”
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I got two fast passes!
Lets get up early and hit up the Tower of Terror before the lines get stupid!
Hey Pods
I got you an orchid bro!
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
considering
Adrian was to be traded for 3 prospects, and he’s a better player than Fielder, I agree with the Billz part…Pujols is another matter, but that ain’t happening. Loney can go in the right deal, I just think not many people want him.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
fair to say
Rivers is great but very unlikable
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 5, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I May Be The Only Person Here Who Things...
…signing Uribe at 3 years/$21 million is MUCH better than signing Werth at 7 years/$126 million. With the differences in the contracts, the relative quality of the two players is almost irrelevant.
I love this opening from Ken Rosenthal
in his column about the Werth deal:
A rival general manager, upon hearing that the contract was for seven years, offered this reaction to Jayson Werth’s signing with the Nationals:
"Absolutely bat—— crazy."
And that was before the GM even learned that the contract was for $126 million, an average of $18 million per season.
I see the argument
Uribe as the better of the two bad arguments
Sure
by Hollywood Joe on Dec 5, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
The quality of the players is always the most relevant thing to determine..
You cant win with crappy players.
Yep. Being for Uribe here is saying it’s better to be bad now than it is to have the possibility of being bad in the future.
Plus it trolled the hell out of the league, which rules.
It’s not like the Nats could have signed Uribe, then used the extra 11 million to be better than the Dodgers.
There Was Nothing The Nationals Could Do To Be Better Than The Dodgers
…or more pertinently, the good teams in their division. Which is why the deal doesn’t even make sense for them now, in the short run, let alone when Werth declines, which at his age, shouldn’t be too long off.
The Nationals can make a run as early as next year. The option to add a player like Werth might not have been there next year.
The Nat's are one of the few
teams who can overpay right now and still have plenty of room for future moves.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They kind of have to overpay also
just to get people to come play for them right now.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Right
but I don’t think Werth signed just for the money, I do expect them to be a competitive team in the near future. Given what we saw of Strasburgh before he stopped pitching he has the talent to be the best pitcher in baseball, Harper killed for a JC guy in the AFL, that was ridiculous. Zimmerman & Zimmerman is not a Law firm but the two best Z players in baseball. Desmond is a decent young SS. Willingham can hit. Storen can close.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Exciting young team to be sure
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Thats true…
And when you dont waste money on vets like Uribe, Barajas, Lilly…you can turn those 3 mediorce salaries into enough to buy a Werth.
Then we'd still have to ....
find a 4th starter
find a power bat infielder
find a starting catcher
and the list goes on……
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Titles
The fact that the space at the top is called the Title doesn’t mean that you are required to capitalize every word if you in fact put a 16-word complete sentence in there instead of an actual title. Just by the way, since it must take a bit of (unnecessary) effort.
It's sort of like
headline writer tryouts….
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Extra Effort, Yes, But I Always Think Sentences in Bold Without Capitalized First Letters
…look bad. Just an aesthetic thing that bugs me.
But
the Dodgers would have been better with Werth then Uribe. I don’t see the point of your comment. They didn’t have as much to start with but I will say that the Nat’s in 2013 will probably be better with Werth then the Dodgers will be with Uribe.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My Point Is That Because Of The REST Of The Players On The Two Teams...
…the Dodgers are going to be better than Nationals. It IS NOT about Werth vs Uribe. This is baseball, not tennis or boxing. The point is to have the best team. A contract like Uribe’s doesn’t screw the team. Werth’s contract will be an albatross very soon.
Soon being probably four years
Uribe’s might be an albatross in year one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Why would it be?
Would you rather pay 18 mils a year to Werth.
Or give it to Uribe, Barajas, and Garland?
Here’s the difference…I cant find a minimum salaried OF that can come close to Jayson Werth.
But I can find some minimum salaried level players to replicate Uribe, Barajas, and Garland..
if that's true
then why are we worried about the 3 year deal? You can’t go and say, “OH NOES, IT’S A THREE YEAR DEAL” and then turn around and say “No, the length of the contract doesn’t matter to this player because budgets are made annually.”
This has more to do with perceived value; i.e. Werth >>>> Uribe.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I'm not arguing that Werth
at 7 years 18 Million would have been a good deal for the Dodgers, but I do think it was okay for the Nationals to do it, and that even if Werth is Werthless in four years it will not hamstring the team, while it would have hamstrung the Dodgers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Really?
If you can find minimum salary middle infielders who play solid defense and hit over 20 homeruns a year, sign us up for a few, please!
You seem to be only talking about players
and not payroll, the Nationals have a huge gap they can still spend on Payroll even after Werth as they continue to build a competitive team for the future while we will soon find out how much the Dodgers have for the present when we see who is our LF for 2011.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I Am Considering Payroll. The Nationals' Are Going To Have Limitations On What they Can Do In the Way Of Signing Other Players Or Affording Raises For Aging Youngsters In Future.
I never denied that it makes sense for their payroll now.
Yes
but this is a franchise who has to start proving itself now before the fan base loses interest. I think this is a great signing for the franchise in that he was one of four premier players on the market and they reeled him in,. They can worry about 2015 in 2015.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In Other Words It Makes PR Sense. Basebal Prospectus Is Always Deploring Those For Good Reason
The Nationals need to do the un-sexy work of team building, the way the Rays did. A big money player isn’t going to win them anything now, so the future is all they should worry about.
But they will be good while Werth
is still under contract, I didnt’ say it was a PR move, I think this franchise is going to move quickly and be competing by 2012 at which point Werth will be a big part of the team.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And the Cardinals with Pujols are going to better than the Dodgers with Loney..
I’d rather have Pujols at 25mils a year than Loney at 7.
Likewise Werth ahead of Uribe.
I Said "Almost" For a Reason. I Was Thinking Specifically Of Pujols When I Decided To Include The Word "Almost"
Werth is nowhere near being Pujols.
And yes, I think he’s worth 11mils more than Uribe.
Put it another way:
Uribe + ? > Werth
What 11 mils dollar guy, that you add to Uribe…would be worth more than just having Werth on your team?
In 2010, Ted Lilly
Werth: 5.0 WAR (Fangraphs)
Uribe: 3.2
Lilly: 2.3
In 2009, that duo led Werth 6.8 to 4.9
I agree
Werth is better as a player, but all is relative in the world of 9-figure contracts
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I love this
it might be a crazy contract and screw up baseball but the Nationals are loading up. Could have three elite position players in two years, and two elite starters.
For just about anyone else probably a terrible contract for the Nat’s who have no payroll they might be regretting this in four years but by then they might have built a perennial contender since the still have plenty of money next year to give them another starter to go with Stras/Zimmerman.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In the world of shitty NL 3rd baseman
Zimmerman stands very tall. Not sure why you think he’ll fade fast, any thing to back this up other then gut?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hmmm
Zimmerman is only 25, you must think he’s older then he is. I think anyone would take the Glaus years of 27 – 31 without the injuries because Zimmerman doesn’t get hurt.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
elite players can become
average players quickly, like Todd Helton, or Mike Hampton, etc.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Not sure if Hampton was ever elite
other being paid like one. Curious that both those awful contracts were given out by the Rockies.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Chargers should really just
move to Los Angeles. For the time being, go Raiders!
Dez Bryant is out for the season with a broken ankle. Not sure if you heard that on the radio broadcast
doubt it will last
but if it won’t be the texans, I want it to be the Jags
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It will probably be decided in two weeks Jags @ indy, and the Jags almost always play them tough. After the loss to KC, they looked like they were headed for a top 10 pick, so it is pretty amazing that they are in decent position right now.
@neufaustcan
Jags @ Texans in week 16
and the Texans after the Ravens next week play Denver Tennesse and Jags.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Probably
because Crawford didn’t want to play for the Nationals. Just a guess
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sounds right I guess.
If they didn’t offer this deal to Crawford before ending up with Werth that is malpractice.
JMO
But I don’t see how Crawford is any better then Werth. Both are great defensive outfielders, Both are great base runners, one guy has power, one guy has speed, but of the overall packages I’d think it is a draw except Crawford is younger so if the is the point then I might agree but how valuable will the speed guy be in five years.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Knew that wasn't going to fall through
great deal for the Sox even if I have no clue what the contract is. Very unimpressed with the return the Padres got, but then we thought the same thing in the Peavy trade.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
they are gonna wait until the start of the season
to avoid luxury tax
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Just a note for the board. This is targeted at other boards, no one on here.
I go to other boards for the teams I support in other sports all of the time. I was active in our game threads this year for most of the games. I just want to thank you guys for not being the most negative people on the planet. I get so tired of reading what some of the fans of the other teams I support say on these free boards. I realize that each person is entitled to their own opinions and such, but fans of other teams are a lot more reactionary than the Dodger fans on here. If this board were like others, there is no way that I’d come on here as much as I do. It wouldn’t be a loss to the Dodger fans around here, but I would miss good information because of all of the negativity.
Thanks again guys.
Dodgers suck
Ned is a douche
Loney Blows
Uribe reeks
Andre is too good looking
Kershaw is too good for his own good
Chad has a fat ass
Kuo can’t pitch right handed
Rafy is a drunk
Kemp is punk
Lilly is a mirage
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dodgers suck – No they don’t
Ned is a douche – So am I
Loney Blows – No argument
Uribe reeks – Wait and see
Andre is too good looking – No argument
Kershaw is too good for his own good – Not a negative
Chad has a fat ass – So am I
Kuo can’t pitch right handed – Neither can Ely
Rafy is a drunk – As long as he is sober at 7:05 every night, who cares
Kemp is punk – I would be too, if I were him
Lilly is a mirage – But he’s LH
:)
My favorite is the Kershaw one
Can’t even say anything bad about him, haha.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
The reality is that
most of our posters are an incredible lot compared to what the norm is.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Phil
I wish you wouldn’t raise the bar like that. It’s taken me this long just to be mediocre, and for me that’s a reach!
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
You kidding
your in the running for Rookie Poster of the Year
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
LOL!!!!
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
I'm just here..
to try and help the team. God willing. Ya gotta play ’em one game at a time.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
That's why I dropped this in there
I was active in our game threads this year for most of the games. I just want to thank you guys for not being the most negative people on the planet.
So that's why
we spend so much time talking about Josie’s movie reviews.
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
What would it take to get Willingham?He is my top choice for LF. If we got him at the winter meetings along with another RP and a C I’ll be happy.Willingham would provide us with another guy in the lineup that can hit 20+ homeruns to go along with Kemp,Ethier and Uribe.
not sure
but sounds like the thinking is he may be moved soon with the Werth signing. I can’t imagine him to be very costly as he is going to be a FA after the season is over.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
can't be giving prospects out like candy.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Willingham isn’t getting an extension from them.If they trade him for prospects they can free up more money to spend on pitching. What do you think it would take to get Willingham?
Not a ton, but since we just swapped out Russ for Rod Barajas over two million I’d doubt we can afford him.
I think we can afford him. We would probably sign a LF for about the same money Willingham makes. I think because Martin didn’t take our offer we quickly signed Barajas so we wouldn’t be left with nothing at C.
I have a feeling
that the Dodgers are looking for a stop gap guy in LF, as there are two guys in Sands and Robinson who could compete for an outfield spot as soon as 2012.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Willingham is a free agent at the end of the year. I think we could sign him to an extension of 1 to 2 years to allow both guys to develop more and be ready to contribute when they make it to the major leagues. I would also try and go for Luke Scott who is a similar player and would allow both Sands and Robinson to develop more. I would try and go for one of those guys 1st before going after someone else like Johnny Damon.
Just a note
We are aware…VERY AWARE…of whom you want to play LF. You have reminded us several times. We got it.
I don't get why this guy would cost so much
Isn’t he dead anyway?
/obscure
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Werth will be part of the future
Willingham will not be, they should trade him for guys ready to play in 2012.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If anyone wants to see how all the coaches in the USA Today college football poll voted, here you go.
Excuse my ignorance
but who gets to vote?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
A few interesting observations.
1. Jim Tressel is a tool. Stanford 6 behind Ohio St and their POS schedule? Please.
2. I was actually impressed with the votes of most of the name coaches. While they may have elevated teams in their conference just a bit, I didn’t see anything outlandish. I coach in the SEC and lost to Auburn so they’re #1 and Oregon’s #2. I can totally support that line of thinking.
3. I didn’t know Howard Shnellenberger was on the Raiders still alive.
4. I have never heard of some of these f’ing guys.
"This guy's dead"
Then cross him off the list!
by Eric Stephen on Dec 5, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
OT
It was a brisk 33 degrees with a good wind blowing at 8 am.
I was out killing a tree to decorate in my living room. It will be there for 3 weeks and then at the bottom of Lake Conway.
Frigid.
yeah
it was super cold here, too. And it was flurrying. It was cute.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I hear ya. It was high 60’s and cloudy here today. Actually drizzling right now. Most folks around here are bundled up heartily…while I’m in shorts and a long sleeve Dodger t-shirt.
Ohio State
is really good. I was amazed how they played UO last year at the Rose Bowl, they matched them athletically. I believed that’s how they won.
TCU, huh? Interesting
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Pac-10 was forced to take an auto qualifier from a non-BCS conference if it lost a team to the title game, one time from 2011-2014.
hahahahahaha
the nerdrage tweet by Molly Knight regarding Stanford going to the Orange Bowl is hilarious.
WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS. NO STANFORD ALUMNI LIVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND NOBODY CAN FLY FROM NYC, SF, OR LA ON A WEEKDAY.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Tiger lives in Florida. But technically he’s not an alum. Maybe he’ll have the team over to his digs to party with some of his, um, friends now that the old ball and chain has flown the coop.
as any school I have attended never fails to tell me
you only have to attended a college or university to be an alum.
I know Stanford people are pissed
But the reality is UConn sucks is the reason they are going to Miami instead of Arizona.
After the Pac-10 had to take TCU, it went, in order:
Sugar: you knew they were going to replace Auburn with an SEC team, a perfect fit
Orange: do they take UConn or Stanford? Easy call
I am trying
to find a good reason why the Nationals would throw this kind of money (and years) at Werth, and I can’t find a single reason why this move makes sense.
Nothing is ever easy.
Casey Kelly, Anthony Rizzo, Reymond Fuentes, and a 4th Prospect
That’s what the Padres are getting for Gonzalez. The Red Sox first, third and sixth best prospects (BA rankings), and Rizzo is a 1B prospect so he would have been blocked by Gonzalez anyway.
my guess for 1 is Gordon.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
According To BA, Kershaw, Billingsley, and Kemp.
At least those are the code names the Padres would have used in asking for our first, third and sixth best prospects.
is that minor?
Marcum’s pretty good, no?
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
ah
gotcha
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
So, all transactions from here on in are to be compared to the Werth signing?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
oh yeah
you betcha
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
or, if in negative
to Barajas, who seems to have eclipsed Juan Pierre, albeit for different reasons and probably due to proximity
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Sort of Off-Topic, but.......
If Manny hadn’t come along when he did, Pierre would have been thought of as a really good acquisition. Would probably still be in our outfield. IMO
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
I don’t think we’d have seen more than average play from him no matter how much playing time he actually would have gotten. I still think he’d be a joke to lots of Dodger fans.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Go to your room!
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
If he really wanted to punish me
He would have sent me to Arkansas.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
What should I expect had I ever accidentally wandered into Arkansas
A state full of KeithC’s? lol
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
There is a weird difference between Southern girls and me. I’m not saying I’m your stereotypical West Coast chick, but it’s something that I’ve noticed and can’t quite put a finger on…
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Ahem
You mean, you wish they all could be California girls?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
this
I think that West Coast girls are little more forward/abrasive maybe?
Though, and this is weird, I was told I seem more like I’m from the East Coast than the West Coast.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I’m so telling your daughter that
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I've never slept with anyone not
born in Southern California.
I wish that had been my choice.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You just lost a ton of points
in the TBLA ROYP vote.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Damn kids!
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Don't worry
They would have said the same thing but more to the effect that Pierre just sucks outside of May 2009 :)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I didn’t realize that bad parenting skills were detrimental in the voting
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Being a Pierre fan is very detrimental
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
there's no such thing as sort of off topic here! ;)
provided he wasn’t blocking Kemp, then yeah, I’m sure it would have been alright.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
I would love to trade for Marcum
or would have before our rotation was set. It wouldn’t have taken a haul I’m sure, but also not scraps. Maybe Withrow as the big prospect? Either way I’m a fan of Marcum.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Oh well
At least we get Pods to play LF next year.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Dec 5, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Just for Michael White :)
Music City Bowl UNC vs Tennessee
Liberty Bowl UCF vs Georgia
Chic-Fil-A Bowl FSU vs South Carolina
Outback Bowl PSU vs Florida
Capital 1 Bowl Michigan St vs Alabama
Gator Bowl Michigan vs Mississippi St
Cotton Bowl Texas A & M vs LSU
BVAA Compass Bowl Pitt vs Kentucky
would they have even made a bowl this year?
I thought they didn’t even get ranked?
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
UO or AU?
Who you got?
Honestly, I don’t know. It’s a real toss up. Both play fairly similar schemes, as in they use the read option a lot. Auburn have some qualities I like, as does UO. I don’t believe the game would be decided by Cam Newton, I believe it will be decided by Auburn’s run defense. I liked what I saw against Alabama, Chizik really studied them and schemed extremely well against Bama’s run offense.
I’m picking Auburn
That is what I thought.
I wouldn’t care if you did that with Ark.
But if you put AU on a Bama board, you’ll get killed.
lol
Rivals.com boards get pretty ridiculous sometimes. When the sanctions hit USC, this one fan posted Paul Dee’s (head of the Committee of Infractions) information and wanted everyone to mail him hate laters, one guy went as far to say he was going to buy plane tickets and threaten him in person.
hate to say it but I'm loving this Costco Chicken Soup
Rain/Soup/Fire/Clippers getting clobbered
three out of four ain’t bad
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Except
It is raining on me outside, my soup was gotten by dumpster dumping, my fire is in a trash can. Other then that, yeah, life is good.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
/ducks
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Hey
I was a Laker fan longer then you all been alive.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
almost all
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
You all was directed at the multiple Maddz's
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
she should really see a doctor for that
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Lakers.....
When I was but a child, every Easter, my family would go to Redondo Beach to my Aunt’s house. While we were there, we would watch the Lakers playing the Celtics. Every year! I thought that it was just a scheduling wierdness, until a couple years later I found out that they were playing the NBA Finals around that time. Every year!
When do the Finals end now? July?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
woa
you sound like you saw Baylor and company play during Baylors prime?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You've been a Laker fan for four years?
That’s what I call a suicide bomber insult.
ALLAH AKBAR!
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Can't be the Chicken Soup I got from there
that stuff was awful
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Has to be
as I’ve said before I’m not very discerning when it comes to food.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm not either
maybe I just got a bad batch
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Scott, I got Joey Votto on line 2 and Josh Hamilton on line 3..
Oh..well…Tell them I will call them back after I am done talking to Carlos Gonzales
regarding Joey Votto
he apparently was at the same Starbucks as OchoCinco this morning. They have a cute picture on twitter together.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Stop at Starbucks this a.m. and look who I saw, Joey Votto, he’s the real deal http://twitpic.com/3d74al
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Even though I'm sure everyone thinks Chad Johnson (i'm not calling him anything else, lol) is a douche
I still like the guy.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Watching Top Chef. I find myself rooting more for people in seasons I have watched than those that I haven’t. I’m sure that will change as the season progresses.
I've watched all of them
and they get rid of Elia on the first All-Stars!! Dammit, there goes my eye candy.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I've got a guy that has lost his keys
He just said, “if I find out someone is fuckin with me, I’ll fuck em up.” He is, I’m not kidding, 5’5" and 110 lbs.
I responded with, “you better hope one of these HS girls are doing it then, every dude up here crushes your ass.”
He didn’t think it was as funny as I did.
my one brother is 5'5 120
he’s badd ass. He was born to live in the South and has now been in Georgia 20 years. NASCAR, College Football, Beer, and Pot. He fit right in.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yup
we were laughing at that last night
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he makes fun of himself a lot
did you see him in Bored to Death?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Contracts in the 9 figures need to be for either up the middle players on right side of 30, or for HOF level talent. While we need a LFer yeah I’m good on not giving Werth this kind of scratch and jesus christ fuck no to Crawford at $180 million.
Noto beat the dead horse and be like dodgers4life but now that we know the firesale is on in SD I’d definitely be trying to get Ludwick.
We'd probably have to give up a better package
then they got for AGon. I say that tongue in cheek but only partly don’t believe it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Over
they get to play Arizona and us a shitload of times.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Its quite possible every single one of their players will have a salary of less than 1 mils…
Only 3 they got left is Ludwick, Heath Bell, and Mike Adams made 1mils last year.
I'd rather have a
500,000 Latos then a 13,000,000 Lilly
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
ok
thats like saying Id rather have Kershaw than Kuroda..
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
They didn’t really get a whole lot of A-Gone. I wouldn’t get that crazy and if they said they wanted 3 real prospects I’d hang up but if they aren’t going to pay Gonzalez $6 million they sure as hell won’t pay Ludwick $7 million or so.
Given what they gave up to get Lucwick in the first place
I’d have a tough time giving them anything from our top five for him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think Magglio Ordonez is worth a look
Sure, he’ll be 37 next month and is coming off an injury plagued season, but he can still hit, and if he’s healthy, he can be a huge bat in the middle of the lineup. A one year deal with incentives might work. Although I think his agent is Boras so perhaps not. I also heard that he might be re-signing with the Tigers anyway.
Still, worth checking into.
Nothing is ever easy.
by drulenarendes on Dec 5, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
ok, procrastination is bad
but look what I did
also, Humma, if that was meant to be a singular slogan, my bad.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Impressive
and I like how you are doing it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yes
this is a good way to do the vote. Doesn’t overload people with choices. And brackets are fun
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
if I'm feeling saucy
we might have a wild card. Just to piss everyone off and extend the playoffs unnecessarily.
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
That will happen. :)
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
hahahahaha I just noticed that
I will have to SS this so it can go alongside my other Dodgers-related screenshot. :)
"Are you telling me they are out of dragons?"
"They never had dragons!"
"Who didn't?"
"The world!"
Because I'm terrible with instructions
We rec any 3 that we want to advance?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
This is the last time I help anyone move
I can barely stand up today after helping people move crap all day yesterday. Last time!
Ok, I know I’ll crumble if someone asks, lol.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
Why would Billy Beane tender a contract to Kevin Kouzmanoff?
I was looking at the non-tender list and was shocked to see this dude get tendered a contract. He’s a terrible baseball player, he has a history of being terrible…and yet he keeps getting handed starting jobs.
Are there really no third basemen anywhere that could replicate a ..258/.302/.425 line (which is his career line).
I’m beginning to believe Reg’s point a couple weeks ago when he said all Gms are stupid. The only differences is that some of have the money to make up for mistakes, or others have the fortune of drafting superstars.
Who is he going to get to play 3B instead?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
i'm sure if they thought they would get Beltre
they’d trade him.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Right…but Kouzmanoff making 5mils a year isnt an attractive asset to anyone.
Last year he made 3.1…I guess they are assuming since he’s so terrible that he wont get that big of arbitration reward..
A's still lacking power
I agree about Kouz, but A’s had so little power last year, I believe he either led the team in HR’s or was 2nd. I think his arb number is alot more like 4m then 5m.
another hyped
3rd base prospect who has never developed. Kind of ridic with all the 3rd base prospects who fail or have to move off of 3rd base.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
As have dropped out of Beltre sweepstakes
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
i know
which is why they kept Kouz
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 5, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
our 3b and outfield
I know many would think it crazy, but assuming the Dodgers can’t bring Beltre back, would love to see the Dodgers take a chance on Matsui in LF as a platoon. Price would be right. His OBP is still good and you might get 20 HR’s out of him. While defense is shot he still has a good arm, and has part of a platoon to play no more than 80-100 games, wonder if he could do it.
He would DH against the AL, start then go by match up. Obviously he is a lefty, which can’t make it a pure platoon with Gibboons, but far better than bringing back Pods.
I really really don't think he can play the field
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
agree
he could play the field a few years ago with the Yankees, realistically, and his knees would be shot fast
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Wow…Harbaugh passes up the 50 yard FG to tie the game to go for a 4th and 2…they dont get it and lose.
4th and 2...
I can see why he would go for it
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Kaman re spains ankle
Brian Cook is thrown out
Smith is thrown out
Cippers cut 22 point deficit to 3
Blake has missed 9 free throws
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I actually meant to watch tonight
oops
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
What happened to Brandon Roy?
he does not look like the same guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He has no meniscus in either knee.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/12/5/1857819/t-shirt-slogans
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
FYI
Heyman said on MLB Network that while the Adrian Gonzalez extension likely won’t happen until April, he has heard it will be a 7-year extension (2012-2018) for $161 million ($23m per year).
so more than Tex
salary wise, but 1 less year
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Dec 5, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Whats the reason for waiting until April?
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
avoids the luxury tax
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 6, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
and they get to see how his shoulder holds up
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I was honestly expecting more.
I’m still expecting Pujos to be 30 million + a year for a decade worth of work.
George Lazenby is James Bond!
by Bobblehead Addict on Dec 5, 2010 11:12 PM PST reply actions
A fascinating Werth/Dodger "what if"
What if A.J. Burnett’s fastball was another inch out over the plate?
Werth doesn’t break his wrist. He probably doesn’t struggle to a .234/.338/.374 line in 2005. Maybe he immediately becomes the guy from the 2007-2009 Phillies, and maybe that breathes life into the horrible offense of the 2005 Dodgers. Maybe that team actually manages to stay in the race or even win the division, and maybe Paul Depodesta keeps his job and we never have to hear the name Ned Colletti. And since Depo and Ned had polar opposite views on how to build teams, obviously you’d have to re-write everything that happened from 2006 to now. Makes you wonder.
1 big thing that I worry about in this scenerio
No Kershaw. Of course we could have taken someone else who might be pretty good for us under different circumstances, but who knows. Kershaw is my favorite Dodger, and best player on the team and could be a superstar (though I’m sure he’ll never get the respect he should). Yes things may have been different, and with Werth on the 08 team the outfield still would have been great, but no Manny for sure. Maybe that means we trade for a 1B instead, but Loney still had potential back then.
Interesting to thintk about, but biggest thing to me is no Kershaw, and I don’t want a Dodger team without him.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
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