Report: Dodgers Discussing Trade For Prince Fielder, Or Are They?
by Eric Stephen on Dec 6, 2010 2:15 PM PST
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Just when we thought the Dodgers and their 17 starting pitchers were just about done with their winter dealings, Tony Jackson of ESPN LA drops this bombshell on day one of the MLB winter meetings:
The Los Angeles Dodgers are actively involved in discussions on a possible three-player deal with the Milwaukee Brewers that would bring slugging first baseman Prince Fielder to Los Angeles in exchange for Dodgers first baseman James Loney and embattled closer Jonathan Broxton, according to multiple sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Fielder is arbitration eligible this winter, and will likely make $15 million or more. Broxton is under contract for $7 million, while Loney stands to make $4.5 to $5 million in arbitration.
For an opposing view, Steve Henson of Yahoo Sports chimed in, squashing the report:
Source: dodgers have zero interest in prince fielder.
Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times also had this:
Dodgers GM Ned Colletti shot down the Fielder/Loney/Broxton rumor.
But I doubt Colletti would have gone all Colonel Jessup on the witness stand in response to that question, so take that for what it's worth.
UPDATE: The rumors are being shot down from just about everywhere. Here's a report from Brewers' beat writer Adam McCalvy saying that the rumors were untrue.
Oh well, that was a fun rumor cycle for an hour or so.
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The ballot was confusing
I ended up voting for Pat Buchanan
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
So how do you discuss a trade that seems to be worked out?
“Doug, Prince for Loney and Broxton. Hook it up”
“No”
“You sure?”
“No”
“Come onnnnnnnnnnn”
But this makes the Brewers worse, doesn’t save any real money, and only helps them in 2012, I can’t see it happening.
Stop being a wet blanket on our wet dream
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
fuck that noise
this all seemed too good to be true
Boooooooooooooo
Henson, go jump off a cliff, you ass…
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I mean, why would they?
I hate first baseman who can hit.
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So now we find out why has more inside info:
Tony or Steve?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
agreed
i would believe that the brewers turned them down, but that the dodgers have “zero interest”?
I would much rather believe this story is true. So i will.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
If that deal happened
imagine all the amazing errors that will happen on plays from Raffy to first!
Winter is coming.
by Maddz on Dec 6, 2010 2:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Is Prince all that much worse defensively
than Dunn/Konerko/generic power-hitting 1B would have been?
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
This is frustrating because we could have shelled out some money if we had it for Dunn, and then we could have traded Broxton and Loney for a LF
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
I can live with it
I want power!!!
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
He's the devil
the proof is that he has yet to age.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Five
but it doesn’t really matter, I have confidential sources that indicate Eric will just pick whatever one HE wants on the T-Shirt
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
oh is that so
because I have multiple sources close to the situation that say “GFY”
Winter is coming.
three purposes of t-shirt
1. Raise Money for Eric – that won’t do it
2. Raise awareness of TBLA in a positive light – that won’t do it
3. Give TBLA insiders something to snicker about when they see each other that one time in a million – check
Looks like a winner
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You need to repost the 2nd link
since it got lost in all the Royalty hysteria
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sources say you should put all your energy into this
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Of course you should. He has to keep in mind he needs to choose one we like, or we will not buy it. Power to the people!
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
He came back inside the house
and made us pancakes.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Good hustle
“Man, I’m NOT on your team!!!!”
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
shoot the J
SHOOT IT!!!!
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 6, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Chappelle's Show FTW
Too bad he went crazy and left to Africa to find himself spiritually. Funny guy. Miss the hell out of his skits.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
If this deal happens
I will get a mini-plan again
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:24 PM PST reply actions
or 3
not like we have Kemp for the next six years.
No one has to be happier about Agon’s contract then the Prince. To bad the Sox and Yankee’s now have 1st baseman.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Exactly. So if we got him for more years, I would be fine with it.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
thanks for killing my 10 minutes of excitement, Ned
:(
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
It was worth the ten minutes of excitement FML
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Colletti then shuddered and said “The dreams of Dodger fans being crushed….i need a cigarette.” and promptly left.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 6, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“I really wanted to have a fatter team going into 2011, and I just do think we can afford to give up Broxton”
dream killer
"Pluto’s not even a planet no more, which I’m very disturbed about. I grew up when Pluto was a planet. Now, I’m 25, I turn around and Pluto’s no longer a planet. I’m going to elbow that guy in the nose." -Ron Artest
Ned: It’s not like I have the resources takes off glasses of a Prince
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
And this is exactly why
I started watching Laker games instead of Dodger games. How can I be a fan when management refuses to do everything possible to put together the best team? Absolutely ludicrous…Jerry Buss needs to buy the Dodgers from that McCourt shmuck.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Or baseball can let 16 teams into the playoffs, and limit games to 5 on 5, so one player can make more of a difference.
I'd be all for that
if we could get Bugs Bunny to play for us: he’s a multitasker, that one.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Really? This rumor for 15 minutes proved this for you?
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
My initial reaction is something to the effect of
Jerry Buss couldn’t afford a MLB team.
The Dodgers are worth more than the Lakers right now, and Buss only has a majority stake in the Lakers.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
There has to be one GM in this league worse than Colletti
Right?
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
who’s the Pirates GM? I always feel awful for them. Here’s the list of outfielders they’ve given up…
Jose Bautista
Jason Bay
Nate Mclouth
Nyjer Morgan
Xavier Nady
not saying all of these guys are superstars
but they don’t even give their young players a shot. i’d bet you dollars to donuts McCutchen gets moved by the trade deadline this season
The Pirates go through managers and GMs
like Ned goes through middle relievers. I wouldn’t be surprised if each of those players were moved by a different GM.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Devil's Advocate
Roids
Disaster contract now (though was good in BOS)
Awful
Batshit crazy
Marvels at Eric Chavez’s health
Hot off the press
“Prince is known to be a bit of a me first kinda guy”
Said Colletti
“We would have considered giving up assets like James and Brox had the Brewers been offering a grinder like Craig Counsell. Prince doesn’t really fit what we are trying to build here”
Go back to the diamond and work on your slow pitch arc
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa!!
I can see how this helps both teams.
Now, if this goes thru, sign Adrian Beltre, Matt Gurrier, and Vicente Padilla and we have a bona fide World Series team.. wait what..
Fuck you Ned!
Well
we just saw what a better first baseman was traded for. I hate Hoyer for taking a shitty deal for AGon, but he may have inadvertently set the trade market lower for Fielder and helped us out. That is, if we were ever really looking to upgrade there at all.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
Felt like for a top dozen or so player in the league they should have been able to pull a young MLB player instead of struggling AA pitching.
I expected them to pull Beckham and Flowers, but I know AGon nixed the ChiSox.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
there were other trade options available to the padres with teams willing to give up a major league player and the sox were even willing to give up ellsbury but the padres knew that if they got a good player who was already a major leaguer, they would just trade him in a few years once they had to pay him.
Why am I getting.....
A Mo Vaughn image in my head?
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
We need a new post
to cleanse this one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ken_Rosenthal
Also have heard Fielder for Broxton-Loney, as reported by @espnla. Source says #Brewers, #Dodgers have not spoken at meetings. MORE #MLB
Ken Rosenthal Ken_Rosenthal
However, it makes sense. Financial match is close. Fielder and Broxton one more year of control, Loney two. #Brewers #Dodgers #MLB
also according to dylan hernandez
Dodgers haven’t even spoken to Russ Martin’s agent since the non-tender deadline
pulling a derek jeter, i like it
“you think you can do better? thanks for the good times”
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
If this trade happened
exactly as initially reported, I would not say another bad thing about Ned or reporters for at least a full baseball season. Possibly two.
The Nats have three catchers
better than anyone in our system. Would be good to get one of them if Ned actually did a trade involving prospects.
Heyman on MLBN
said he thinks they’re the frontrunners for Pavano and they’re trying to win. Who knows? Rosenthal is coming up on MLBN after the break BTW
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
What would you rather talk about? Movies?
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
The Brewers
can find someone to close for less than $7M and they can certainly find a first baseman next year for less than $13+ that Fielder will make this year.
The small savings they get for both years doesn’t make them better unless they are going after someone like Cliff Lee.
Just to bring up a point of fact
how much did they pay Trevor Hoffman last year, exactly? $8mil? I don’t think paying for a closer is a problem.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
I really have not seen anything that resembles being pissed off. Hyperbole, yes. But not anger.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I hear that's going to be a good movie
I friggin love Jack Black.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
urge to kill. . . .rising
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
My brother hates him
but loved Tropic Thunder. He highly recommended I watch it, but I think he was just excited because Black gets shot sometime in the movie apparently.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
I can think of exactly one movie Jack Black is in that I enjoyed. He even ruined an episode of community.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
you LIKE Jack Black? Wow it is like i don’t even KNOW you.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed Nacho Libre
but I like that kind of stupid humor…to a point. His zaniness worked well in that film and the nun was hot…well played, Black.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
The ratio of satire to annoying was not nearly high enough.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I can think of at least 3 for me right off the top of my head
High Fidelity – he rocked it in that.
Kung Fu Panda
Tropic Thunder
And parts of the Tenacious D movie.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Haven't seen that one yet
Been meaning to, just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Hi Fidelity. Only one.
Every part of Tropic Thunder he was in made me want to stab a fork into my knee.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Cable Guy? I thought he was good in that.
The Holiday! Fantastic. I watch it whenever I feel bad about being single and then feel even worse! Great Movie!
Winter is coming.
ugh.
I may vomit.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I bet you like Dane Cook too
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is it fair to say
he’s the most hated “popular” comedian out there right now? I know George Lopez might be right there, as well…I think he’s hilarious, but I’ll acknowledge that you have to be Latino for some of his material to make sense.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
As Dane Cook is not funny
he cannot be classified as a ‘comedian’
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
oooh good one!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
there can be only one
and its him, that joke stealing asshole.
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Between Two Fern
you heathen?!
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
All funnier
then Carlos Mencia
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I am Latino
i don’t think he’s very funny. I get it, Latinos and Whites are different. move on.
"Heroes get remembered, but Legends never die."
by Tommy Blackjack on Dec 6, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
More modest Winter Mtg tweet
From Molly Knight:
Heard the Dodgers are unlikely to bring back Podsesnik to play left, as they’re looking for (even modest amounts of) pop. #wintermeetings
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
by underdog on Dec 6, 2010 2:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, happy news and more believable!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I’m a white girl from the valley, I try to escape my culture, it doesn’t always work
Winter is coming.
Nope
J is my legal first name but I don’t go by it but every other iteration of ScottB seemed to be taken!
What is Colletti supposed to say, though?
If a trade is in the works, why would he say “yea, we’re trying to acquire Prince.”
Not saying it’s going to go down; just saying…what else would you expect Colletti to say?
Something along the lines of
“Any team would be improved with the addition of Prince Fielder.” We’ll listen to any offers, of course, but can I say we’re actively looking to upgrade the first base position? No, I can’t say that."
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
How does saying that advance Ned’s interests? It only marginalize Loney, and for what? To be more transparent for people like us?
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
All I can say is
it’s a good thing I’m not a GM: I would have shown all my cards on Day 1 and gotten us all screwed. I’ll just shut up now. :-)
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
As in:
We have no money, no prospects, and aren’t trading Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuo, or Jansen. We are looking for a power hitting left fielder and first baseman. What have you got? One at a time please, Jamie has barricaded herself in my office and is screaming about God and chocolate.
by prosellis on Dec 6, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
This made me laugh.
+1
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
That is a mental image
I could have gone a lifetime without having burned into my brain.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Well
I figure if it were actually happening, they probably wouldn’t have responded to reporter inquiries so quickly. Usually the trades that actually happen get reported quickly, then there is no news for awhile while the GMs figure out if there is actually a match, then they make a comment as it gets closer.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
If you haven't already voted
Go here and rec your favorite three. This is part one. There will be part two and three later.
Top 5 comments move on to round three!
Winter is coming.
Tom Haudricourt
Brewers beat writer:
I am now told that the Fielder for Loney/Broxton report is being taken down. As I noted earlier, Broxton really makes no sense for Brewers.
Oh well
To quote Richard Ford in The Sportswriter
“the old anticipation of pleasure, the source of eighty percent of all happiness.”
It was worth it.
Broxton makes plenty of sense
He can be the pace sausage in the sausage races.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
Cheap Shots!
(wish I’d thought of them)
"Man that ball got outta here in a hurry. I mean anything travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it, don't you think?"
Rosenthal
just said live on MLBN that the trade talk was not “live” but it’s just lobby talk now, and that it is a good match. Rosenthal knows what “logic” means? Mitch Williams also said it would be a great trade for the Brewers. LOL
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
I don't care if this is real or not
I’m happy to be the talk of the meetings for something other than whatever Frank and Jamie are doing.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
Ken_Rosenthal
#Dodgers source on how much legitimacy there is to Fielder-to-Dodgers’ talks: “Zero.” #Brewers #MLB
and it has come full circle. Rosenthal early to the party, but leaves last.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
Why are we blaming Rosenthal?
Wasn’t it in a Tony Jackson story?
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to hear
Colletti answer questions eventually about not trying to upgrade when Loney sucks again this year and the team finishes 3rd. Oh that’s right, then he’ll be fired.
Overqualified in an underqualified world since 2008.
REPOST
I’m going to rec Maddz’s first post of this thread because her sig is awesome. WINTER IS COMING OMFG
HURRY UP DANCE WITH DRAGONS
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to start calling Ken Rosenthal Jim Levenstein.
He’s always early.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
Is there a way
for them both to lose? That game is like Giants vs. Yankees for me, with Brian Wilson going against A-Rod.
But yeah, not a fan of the Jets or Pats.
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Jets. For fantasy football reasons.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I steamrolled my entire fantasy league to an easy 1st place in the regular season and have by far the best team with the most depth. Of course this week is the second round of playoffs and pretty much every player on my team did nothing and I’m going to lose.
Oh and sorry btw. The reason I wrote that rant is because the only way I could possibly win is if Brady and Welker somehow do absolutely nothing.
No worries. It lets me go on my rant =).
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
I lead my league in points scored and points allowed. Terrible luck. I already lost this week. I need Braylon Edwards and Keith Folk to outscore Tom Brady by 7 points so one of the guys I’m tied with for the last playoff spot will also lose…. sigh.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
At least
I didn’t have to pay for a paper for these rumors.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 3:02 PM PST reply actions
I want us to sign Guillermo Mota for 600k
just so we can trade for Prince and know he’ll walk for the picks.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
by zero chance
do they mean like 0.4% chance and then just round the number down? Can someone find out if any rounding is involved? I would think in any rumor involving Broxton or Fielder that there would be plenty of rounding involved.
I am probably in the minority of Bronco fans in being sad about it
I understand it and if they were gonna make a chance might as well do it now. But I think a lot of Bronco fans were assholes to him and about him, so if nothing else maybe they’ll chill out (for a few months). He made some controversial moves as far as personnel but most of them (other than Peyton Hillis) were the right ones imho and he was building with character guys that should bode well for the future, despite this crummy season. I think he deserved a 3rd year, which is when a lot of guys, like Eric Mangini, finally have things in place to succeed.
Oh well. I feel bad for him.
The only thing I can think of also is that Bowlen was upset about the spygate controversy and even if handled and resolved didn’t like the PR embarrassment of it.
My two cents!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Several reasons
One Hillis fumbled a lot as a Bronco, both in games and in practice. He started doing that with the Browns too but has been much better about it. He also wasn’t picking up the playbook very well at all (though the playbook was supposedly complicated). The Broncos also desperately needed a 2nd QB after Simms failed, to backup Orton, before obviously they unexpectedly drafted Tebow. So at the time it made some sense.
Add to that the way the Broncos line run blocked the first half of this season (it’s been better lately) and Hillis would in no way have had the same success running there than in other places. Anyway, still one he’d probably like to have back.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen has relieved Josh McDaniels of his head coaching duties. Details to follow on DenverBroncos.com. #fb
am I that far off in thinking that you could release everyone on an NFL team and start over and be better off?
ie 2009 raiders.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
There are over 50 players on a roster
good luck replacing 50 players in an offseason(not to mention the practice players).
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
I would say that except for the guys drafted and jason campbell, the raiders have almost the exact same team from 2009.
Now that was hyperbole
yes, the NFL rules re dropping players is more liberal than other pro sports but salary cap and frankly even going out and signing multiple replacements makes it somewhat impossible to entirely clean house.
There has GOT to be some recording of that somewhere.
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Eric was the guest on some 14 year old kid’s podcast and the kid kept asking Eric questions about some guy named Hung Chee Koo-oah
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
I have it saved at home too
and I’m sure the link to the show is somewhere.
Related story: I’m going on that show again tonight! But Andrew Martin (of Purple Row fame; Rockies Magic Number) will be the host instead.
I read GOT as
Game Of Thrones
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
my last name is stevens
and I lose my damn mind when people call me “steve”. but its understandable.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 6, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
I get called Scott a lot in work e-mails
drives me crazy. But I always respond with that person’s last name and they get the hint.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
damn thats a great idea
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 6, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
just have to be careful who you do it to
I responded to an e-mail with the dude’s last name and he was about 11 pay grades above me. Guy didn’t like it too much.
I then gave him a GFY.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
first name
and its obnoxious as fuck
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Well they did kind of suck
and uh… the whole videotaping thing was bad
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
Obvious joke is obvious.
"Save that for the girl chat rooms. No here cares that you are sentimental and sweet. Jose [sic] already passed on you, Dodger SF is having a mid 20’s relationship crisis living in a town where she can’t love anyone because they are either gay or Giant fans, Maddz is stuck in Theology hell, and Teal is married. Not sure what is up with Connector. And my nieces are off limits. Sporky hates you because you adorn the cover of Jon’s book."
She's supposed to be amazing in Black Swan
definite Oscar nominee. I hope to see it this week.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I would give it to her
Who are the other nominees?
She had to lose 20 pounds for her already small frame.
I see what you did there
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
Nominees aren't announced til January
I just meant she’s considered a near lock for a nomination…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Fielder
Barajas wore 28 last year. Hopefully he’ll do the right thing and give that up. I checked with Guerrero and he’s ok with it as well. Fly him in for the physical.
It takes a bigcpa
to get a big first baseman
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Just made a 52 yarder with Zendejas in NCAA '11
“If its in the game, its in the game” my ass.
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Mark Reynolds to the Orioles for 2 relief pitchers
David Hernandez and Kam Mickolio. From the perspective of weakened competition, we’re happy about this, right?
I pretty much don't care
Curious to see if the Dbacks try Hernandez as a starter.
I like it from the perspective that it seems like 2 relievers can get you anyting you want.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
I think that makes the exchange rate
2 relievers = 10 dollars.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
Question
How do I check the order of best to worst WAR for 1B in baseball last year?
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 3:53 PM PST reply actions
East Coast bias alert
Sorry, but I haven’t done this in a while, and I just couldn’t let this one go. It was just too good not to share. From Sports Illustrated’s Joe Lemire:
Over/under on Mark Reynolds strikeouts next year with #Orioles while facing AL East power pitchers is set at 235.
Because, ya know, the NL West pitchers just aren’t that good!
Somehoe I think his power numbers will increase though. Camden (from what I understand) is similarly a home run park, but he gets to also play in Fenway and Yankee Stadium a bunch now instead of Coors, Payphone, the Taj Mahal of Baseball, and Petco.
Monday, monday. Can't trust that day.
2010 Team Pitching stats
Top 3 staffs in strikeouts in 2010 (MLB) – Giants, Padres and Dodgers, and 7th, the Rockies.
Boston, Tampa Bay and Toronto were 9th, 10th and 11th, Yankees were 15th.
That's what I figured
But if you want to take a hardline anti-Reynolds stance, you could say that those numbers will be reversed once he moves to the AL East. :)
Are people still bothered more by ks than other outs?
I thought more modern stats explained it was better to k than hit into DPs.
His OBP was still .320 last year even hitting under .200…I think this is a great deal for the Orioles.
A 27yr old 3rd basemen…career .242/.334/.483 that makes will make under 5 mils the next 2 seasons..
So effectively
$5M and $8M the next two years, or coincidentally exactly the same as Juan Uribe.
@davidyoungtbla - The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Trivia time!
Who has the all time single season record for strikeouts?
Who’s number two on that list?
Who’s number three on that list?
How many full seasons has Mark Reynolds played?
Reynolds had a WAR under one last year. Sure he can get lucky and hit .260, but there’s not all that much value in the standard Reynolds .230 season.
How can a +800 OPS at 3rd base have such a low WAR?
Doesnt WAR take into account position on the diamond?
Everyone that plays 3rd base sucks nowadays…so if I got a guy that if he just has an average Mark Reynolds season will OPS .817…that isnt valuable?
If you assume he’s going to just put up his career worst year…then yeah he isnt as valuable. But he’s been up and down.
2007- 843
2008 – 779
2009- 892
2010 – 753
His bb rate has actually increased the last several years…so I just think his approach makes for a lot of ks.
It was .753 in a hitters park last year. 3rd base is a lot worse than it used to be but you’re still expected to be above league average.
Even .817 OPS from a 3rd baseman with bad defense isn’t that impressive. Also when so much of your OBP comes from walks it does hurt your value a little.
Is Reynolds really that bad at defense?
His bbs have increased each year also.
37,64,76,83
For a guy in his prime, at 3rd base, and a reasonable deal…not sure you could find a better guy to take a chance on.
Would you trade Tron/Belisario for Reynolds?
I’d do it in a second.
The problem is that on the extremes, a lot of analysis tends to breakdown. Sure strikeouts aren’t that bad, relatively, but at a certain point the numbers get a little ridiculous.
I guess, but do you know who holds the record for most ground outs in a season? Or most fly outs?
If not, why should every broadcast mention that Reynolds is the record holder for strikeouts?
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I think because it is pretty remarkable to play
3 full seasons and each season have the most strikeouts ever for an MLB player outside of yourself.
Bobby Bonds held the season strikeout record from 1970-2003 with 189 strikeouts. Dunn broke that in 2004 and Howard broke it in 2007 with 199 strikeouts.
Reynolds became the first player in history not only to strikeout over 200 times in a season, he did it, 3 consecutive years and his first full three years of playing.
So who has the ground out record? Maybe somebody also has a remarkable record we should know about.
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Using BaseballReference.com Values
Mark Reynolds WAR – 2008 – 0.9, 2009 – 2.2, 2010 – 0.8
Casey Blake WAR 2008 – 3.2 (2.2 Cleveland, 1.0 Los Angeles), 2009 – 6.1, 2010 – 3.1
his babip last year was around .250. the 2 years before were in the .330s I believe.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Dec 6, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
local economist
that radio and TV always consulted during various recessions
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
Would the Dodgers be able to structure an Upton deal around and I know that this might upset some people but Andre Ethier
Upton and Cargo were on the Padres in 2016 in my MLB the Show
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
I bet the Dbacks were REALLY pissed at you
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
I did not do it. It was the sim with my rookie player, I am now on the Rockies.
by robotmadeofnails on Dec 6, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Dpes Upton have a source of Power? Don’t see it.
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 6, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Lively discussion on the Dodgers.com board re: the Fielder rumor. One guy suggests we keep Loney and pursue Dunn for LF. Next guy says “are you serious, have you seen Dunn’s defense?” Two others chime in. It wasn’t until the fifth post that someone reported Dunn had already signed elsewhere.
What are the chances Loney gets dealt?
Supposedly the Cubs have legit interest…but would the Dodgers trade him without having a 1st basemen already in the fold?
Suppose
but my thinking is that Loney + Blake ~= Aramis+Blake. I’d rather trade Loney for a LF and either sign or promote a 1B.
Disregard females, acquire currency.
Thanks
spent most of my workday trying to ditch my political one of this morning.
Disregard females, acquire currency.
My buddy is at the meetings and says its just crazy. People everywhere, lobby will be crowded until 3 in the morning, etc. It would be fun to just go and watch, but it can’t be fun if you’re there on the job hunt.
sounds about right
The time I was there, I just walked back and forth in the Bellagio lobby. This was only 2 years ago but it was still-pre Twitter so there were only texts and emails.
I believe there is a job fair but you might have to pay to attend it.
Ya, its mostly just minor league stuff at the fair. He’s already interned for the Dodgers for 2 summers, ran one of the AFL teams this summer, and has ridiculous contacts because of his family. He had a few interviews today and a few more lined up tomorrow, but nothing guaranteed. If he cant get a job with his experience and contacts, I really dont know how anyone that isnt a former player or a family member of someone in charge can break into the business.
one of the biggest Old Boys Clubs in the US, methinks. I know someone who knows someone, but I need them to vouch for me to get an interview so I’m stuck here for a bit longer.
Disregard females, acquire currency.
yep
you don’t have to tell me that life isn’t fair.
All I’ve ever wanted to do was work in an MLB front office, but what former player or current fan wouldn’t? The amount of competition for literally a handful of jobs is ridiculous.
Disregard females, acquire currency.
Me too. If it were something realistic and I had an in and more than a one a jillion chance, I would go for it. My buddy has one degree of separation contacts with either the GM or owner of 10 or so teams and still has to go to the winter meetings to get interviews (hell, 99.9% of people there would kill for an interview to be an intern) and maybe a 50/50 shot at getting another internship with a different team. He’s a lucky one that has financial support from his parents that he can afford to do all this, but if you aren’t in that position, it just isnt really possible.
Yeah I had a couple of friends get degrees in sports management thinking they’d just walk right in to a job in sports.
Didnt work that way.
They either cant find jobs, or take jobs in ticket sales for minor league soccer or other obscure type sports..
It's a good thing someone is probably in class right now
They either cant find jobs, or take jobs in ticket sales for minor league soccer or other obscure type sports..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football
It is the world’s most popular sport.
Get that weak ass stuff out of here!
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
obscure league, not the same as obscure sport :)
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by Ghost_of_K3vo on Dec 6, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
From Buster Olney
It’s interesting that Martin may choose among three AL East teams — Yankees, Red Sox and Jays.
My guess would be Red Sox, given the uncanny rate that players have cross paths with the Red Sox and Dodgers in recent years.
At least one
he was up in the majors all of 2009 (or the DL) and in 2007 after his contract purchased, he was never sent down.
How’s Martin supposed to handle that tough NL East pitching? It’s like bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I don't understand
why would the Dodgers dump somebody the Yankees & Red Sox want? That Martin is being considered by those teams, doesn’t that mean he’s somewhat highly regarded?
I think cost was the factor with Martin. He wanted more than the Dodgers were willing to spend on him.
There are gonna be teams interested in him, but cost will be the major issue.
Looks like Martin may now be in a position where he has to prove he can play again?
by 68elcamino427 on Dec 6, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Ned, please PLEASE get Broxton and Loney done for Fielder
I would love you so much if you could get a big slugger WITHOUT trading any starting pitching for it. Oh man. I really hope talks don’t break down, the Dodgers need this.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I didn't read the article or the comments before I posted :(
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I can't wait for the Raiders
to thrash the Jags next week
LAST SEASON, I led this team in ninth-inning doubles in the month of August!
It's almost been 20 years now! ;)
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
i would be surprised if that happened...
although I guess I would have said the same thing about the chargers game.
@neufaustcan
Speaking of the NFL, if the Falcons get home field throughout, I’d put money on them winning the NFC. They are always LOCKED IN at the Georgia Dome.
You said that 2 weeks ago about the Eagles
by Michael White on Dec 6, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
As we all know
Silverwidow never goes from one shiny thing to another :P
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
It’s going to be a close race. Falcons, Eagles, Packers and Giants are the final four in some order. The Saints’ defense has been a disappointment of late.
I've still got faith in the Packers to stay hot and win about 11 games
and be a real threat in the playoffs.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
I'd love to see them take down the Pats.
"If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate"
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