Forget roses, inhale the sweet smell of another baseball journey
For some fans the only possible reward is a World Championship, for others it is only about being able to compete for that championship. For this fan, the reward is the journey from now until the last ball is put to rest in late October. Those in the business of building the team can have lofty goals with World Championships as the only focus, but I'll be happy with simply enjoying the season, game by game, inning by inning, at bat by at bat, pitch by pitch.
This doesn't mean I'm some laid back Dodger fan, I can yell and scream with the best of you, it doesn't mean I won't criticize the team when I feel they are short changing themselves in the pursuit of success. It doesn't mean I don't care deeply about this team playing in the World Series.
I understand how never having a Kirk Gibson Moment, a Joe Ferguson catch and throw, a Pedro dismantling of the Yankees, a Bob Welch matchup is disheartening for those who have never been able to experience those World Series defining events other then reading or listening to others like myself talk about it. I feel the same way about never getting to see Koufax's superhuman 65 Series. All I can say is that the journey to the 81 World Championship made it mean so much more. If we had simply won in 74, 77, or 78 then 81 would not mean what it means. Failure builds appreciation for when the ultimate success finally occurs. Would I rather have four world championships and eschew the failures? You bet but when you don't win you have to move on and wait for the next season's journey to see where it takes you.
The Dodgers were not failures for not winning the last two years. As far as I' m concerned they were over achievers, this was not a team built with a 150-200 million dollar payroll that you felt was the best team in baseball. They were good enough to compete and they competed as far as they could. Along the way you had to enjoy the season they gave us. Or not, but trust me you had more fun if you enjoyed the season instead of complaining about it.
Many folk will point to the Lakers success as something the Dodgers need to aspire to. Let me tell you beating the Celtics in 1985 meant everything to Laker fans because of 25 years of futility against the men in green. It wasn't like the Lakers were born of championships once they moved to Los Angeles. It wasn't like they haven't had long spells of being the bridesmaid even after they finally won the first one in 71/72. Futility was being a Laker fan from the day they arrived until the first one over a decade later knowing you had the better team many a year (seven times from 1962-1971 they were runner-ups) . The real Laker dominance did not start until Magic showed up. Dodger fans who always point to the Lakers seemed to have forgotten the years between Magic and Shaq as though that Decade did not exist. The 90's were as cruel to the Lakers as they were to the Dodgers.
Maybe this team never reaps the final assault like the 81 Dodgers or the 85 Lakers, maybe the last two years is as good as it gets for this group. It could happen and ultimately it would be a disappointment but the season itself doesn't have to be if just because they fall short once again. Many things will happen this season just as in seasons past that will lift you out of your Dodger seats, or your couch in wild passion for whatever it was that caused it. Enjoy that moment.
It is the incredible intricacies of baseball that really make the game for me. Sure you can watch the highlights but if you didn't see Matt Kemp fall behind 0-2, work the count to 3-2, then lash a game tying single up the middle how much would you have appreciated that single on MLBTV?. If you were not a party to the struggles that Matt Kemp has had to undergo to get respect in this town you may only enjoy the hit because of the win and excitement it generated, however if you were a party to Matt Kemp from the first day he showed up, a hit like that meant validation. And we all love validation.
Yes, I understand I'm simply rambling at this point with much more to say in a very incoherent manner.
When Jon Weisman writes about the scintillating 18-pitch Alex Cora at bat, he's focusing on the right now. One at bat, one improbable result, yet each season is filled with moments like that. It is for me what makes baseball special. If I only cared about World Championships, I'd take the season off.
Currently TBLA members have been voting on what they consider the greatest moment of the last decade. In many cases the moment was possible because of a team effort. Steve Finley doesn't hit a dramatic home run if the seven batters before him don't do something equally dramatic by keeping the inning alive one after another. I've poo pooed what Steve Finley did not as a shot at Finley but because the real work had been done by those who stared at a three run deficit in the 9th inning and didn't back down from the challenge but embraced it. Finley simply finished what his predecessors had started. Though he did finish it in fine style. James Loney doesn't get to hit a series changing grand slam if his predecessors had not loaded the bases for him in the first place. Each of those at bats that loaded the bases both times are what the game is about. Not just the big moment, but how the big moment was made possible. Even the greatest home run in Dodger history was only made possible because the worse player on the team walked before that at bat. If you remember the game you will always be dumbfounded that Mike Davis didn't make the last out.
For many baseball fans this is the best time of year as the sheet is still blank with endless possibilities. The Yankees have yet to route the competition. Don't be so caught up in the fact we don't measure up to the Yankees. The season may end exactly as you fear, but the season could also surprise us, and after watching baseball for 40 years, I'd bet on a surprise no one anticipates right now. The downside is that surprises come in both packages, good and bad.
Quite a meandering post with no editor to pull it together but I'm simply trying to say enjoy the moments of the season. Enjoy the journey; it begins soon at a ballpark near you.
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It makes perfect sense to me Phil. Baseball comes part and parcel with its 162-game regular season that ebbs and flows from day to day. If one focuses only on October, there is whole lot of the story that they are missing, sort of like reading only the last chapter of mystery novels.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
b/c it's bobblehead night!
j/k
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
Having the greatest announcer in history
certainly helps the journey along. The stories by the great Vin Scully make the game so much more interesting. Of course it would be nice to have MLB tv so I could hear him more often and see the Dodgers every day.
There’s also going all winter with mad Dodger Dog cravings.
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
+1
on everything. I miss listening to Vin. I actually went and found the 9th inning of the Koufax perfect game to listen to Vinny… its amazing what you can find on the internet
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Feb 11, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
... enjoying the season ...
Yes – The journey with ebbs and flows and unexpected twists and turns.
Two years in a row, going for three?
Wow, are the Dodger fans getting spoiled, WS notwithstanding?
How will Ramirez look in ST? Will anyone be saying wait till May, give him 200 AB’s?
Will everyone make it out of ST intact?
What about the ownership issue?
Many other questions abound.
I’m with Phil, resigning myself from the notion of a quest for perfection, instead enjoy the ride. Enjoy and savor Vin, The Bison, Ethier, Kershaw, Broxton, and warm balmy summer evenings at the stadium as the palm trees sway in the breeze, the mountains in the background fade into purple, then a dark silhouette, and next you’re under the stars in the sky and observing them on the field.
Ready?
by 68elcamino427 on Feb 11, 2010 6:38 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Spot on Phil
Baseball has always been about the journey; never the destination.
More number stuff
A.J. Ellis, who wore 49 with the Dodgers last season in very limited duty, is now number 9.
For anyone looking to catch minor league action at Camelback
Minor League camp:
- Minor League early camp begins on February 25
- Pitchers and catchers report on March 4 and the first workout is March 6
- All others report on March 10 and the first workout is March 12
Huh?
So I’m going March 4-6 and already have tickets. Please tell me it won’t only be guys with no shot at making the club.
by prosellis on Feb 11, 2010 8:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Those are dates for minor league camp only
by Eric Stephen on Feb 11, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Major league pitchers & catchers report Feb 20 and have first workout the next day. Position players report February 25 and have their first workout February 26.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 11, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
James (LA)
Kemp or Rasmus? Seems like you always favored Rasmus, still the case?
Klaw
(1:09 PM)
I don’t think I ever compared the two head to head. Very high on Rasmus, but Kemp is better now and I think retains the higher ceiling.
ray (burlington, nj)
KLaw-thanks for the chat. You mentioned Jimmy Rollins as a comp for Dee Gordon in your Top 100 writeup. What is the likelihood Gordon develops enough power to hit 15+ HRs in a season? We know he has the speed and glove.
Klaw
(1:34 PM)
I think he’s more of a poor man’s Rollins. I’m not sure if he’ll have that kind of power – he’s strong for his size, but he’s not very big at all.
I’m still not getting the Rollins comp. Rollins doesn’t hit for a high average or walks at a decent rate.
I don't get the appeal of Jimmy Rollins
The metrics seem to suggest he’s a very good defensive SS, but he’s portrayed as this offensive force, when he’s really a mediocre bat with a bit of pop. Suppose it comes back to the Juan Pierre syndrome: knock some singles and steal some bases and the cattle will love you and the talking heads will label you “gritty gutty gamer.”
Rollins also knows how to square up a 99 mile per hour fastball….
by Michael White on Feb 12, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
He’s a league average hitter (100 OPS+ since 2003), who plays shortstop. There aren’t that many of those laying around. Factor in his above average defense (positive UZR/150 eight years running) and you have pretty much exactly what you want out of a shortstop.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:14 AM PST up reply actions
Good post.
Sometimes, it’s hard to put things in perspective like that. The regular season was a lot of fun, and I got to be in attendance for two of Andre the Giant’s walk-off bombs. Unfortunately, it got overshadowed by another disappointing loss to the Phillies and an offseason that has seen the team get no better. Maybe I’ll learn to be thankful for what the team does give me when I get to experience a championship. Right now, with the team not having one in my lifetime (or any of my favorite teams for that matter, I’m a Clipper fan), it’s hard to look back on the good stuff.
by WestsideBrandon on Feb 11, 2010 10:20 PM PST reply actions
Rosenthal says multi-year deal, pending physical…no details yet
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
#Giants earlier offered Lincecum 21M for 2. Agents countered at 25
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Rosenthal says $23m for 2 years. Security yes, but he left cash on the table IMO.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions
Perhaps, but that is the normal trade-off. If he left, say $5M on the table, that’s the trade for being nicely set for life, have arm-falling-off insurance, and still having leverage after 2011 for more big money if things go well for him.
Besides, $23M will still buy a lot of bud.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Feb 12, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Guaranteed the players association is pissed right now
and this makes the Howard arb case look even more stupid.
From Heyman:
lincecum gets 8 mil in 2010, 13mil in 2011 plus 2 mil signing bonus (1 mil each year)
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t doubt the MLBPA was drooling to get this to arb and see Tim win $13. But locking up 2/23 is still good for their member.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It’s not good when he could have…
a) won the arb case at $13m (PA doesn’t care about Lincecum’s long-term security per se, just setting precedents)
b) settled a one-year deal at the midpoint ($10.5m) or even at the Howard number ($10m) and gone for it again next year
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
It’s not good for the MLBPA with regard to the arb process. I’m sure they don’t like the 9/13 split. But I can see this being the right decision for Lincecum. He’ll still be arb-eligible for two years after this contract expires, so if things go well for him, he can have opportunities to set more precedents, or sign a monster deal. If his arm falls off, he has $20+M to fall back on.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That’s what I meant…hard to turn down $23m when you’ve made less than $2m in your career…but the MLBPA is fuming.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
The union is asking to much if they expect a player to sacrifice his long-term security for the union goals. There’s a chance he doesn’t win the arb case, so $8 vs. $23M, is the bird-in-hand comparison. The latter sets him up for life in a different style than $8M does.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Question
Assuming Lincecum produces similarly over the next two years what would be his anticipated earnings in the third arb year? Or at least what could he ask for?
He rejected the three year $37 MM deal. How much more than $14 MM could he expect to be awarded if no longer term deal is reached?
If he produces similarly over the next two years, he could reasonably ask for $20 million in arbitration. Even if he doesn’t win another CYA, he still pretty much stands alone in the “special accomplishments” area for someone with (at that point) just under five years service time.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
So with the deal he signed
He possibly left $5 MM on the table. If he had signed the 3 yr deal he would have possibly left $6 MM on the table, but would have that third year secure with another $14 MM.
I don’t quite understand the Lincecum camp thinking on this…
I can see their side
1st big deal, sets him up for life, get some guaranteed coin.
He’ll have a much stronger resolve — a financial cushion to fall back on — if it comes to this again, where he can take a more hard line stance, that is if he wanted to.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Over achievers?
The Dodgers were not failures for not winning the last two years. As far as I’ m concerned they were over achievers, this was not a team built with a 150-200 million dollar payroll that you felt was the best team in baseball. They were good enough to compete and they competed as far as they could. Along the way you had to enjoy the season they gave us. Or not, but trust me you had more fun if you enjoyed the season instead of complaining about it.
hmmmm, supposedly they’ve been built to win the West ever since the McCourts came to town ,.,.,.,.,. which they’ve been able to do rather handily more times than not.
(mostly due to the cooperation of their NL West stable mates who have collectively chosen to remain in the back waters of the National League)
but somewhere along this happy little journey you’d think that they’d make a move to acquire the pitching necessary to get over the hump and onto the next level?
I know that their fans would appricate it …
… and in the meantime, the Kiddie Corps sure isnt getting any younger …
(mostly due to the cooperation of their NL West stable mates who have collectively chosen to remain in the back waters of the National League)
Three of the last four years the NL Wild Card team has come from the National League West. Every team in the West except the Giants have made the playoffs at some point in those last four years.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
In 2009 the NL West was 201 – 171 vs the rest of the NL, 116 – 91 vs. the Central and 85 – 80 vs. the East. Every team in the West was .500 or better against each division except that the Padres and DBacks were one game under .500 against the Central and the Dbacks were four games under .500 against the East. Looks like the West is holding their own, or better, against the rest of the NL.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Feb 12, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Do you have a specific suggestion of the pitching they need to acquire, or is this just a reflexive “get an ace” call from the bleachers?
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
Word
I’m almost at the point where I don’t respond to just random, “the team should trade X” or “for X”, anymore unless its accompanied by an actual trade idea.
by Michael White on Feb 12, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Over-Achievers
in the sense they went into the first round of the playoffs as underdogs and basically wiped the mat with both teams leading to over expectations against a better Phillie team.
Yes, I would have loved for them to have spent the money and gambled on Ben Sheets, or spent the money and traded for Harang. We will head into this season as co-favorites if not outright favorites for the NL West but the Phillies do appear again to be the best team in the NL. That is as of today, and by the end of Sept, that may not be the case, the 162 season has an interesting way of changing destiny in ways we never imagined. Manny a Dodger, un bloody believable in the spring of 2008.
I’m not as frustrated with the $100 payroll given that Ned is our GM. If he had $130M to play with I doubt several of Kemp, Kershaw, Andre, or Billingsley would even be on this current team. They would have been traded for expensive but proven veterans as why wait for them to grow into their roles when you can just buy someone who is already productive?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
Good post. The older I get, the less I obsess over Dodger results (having two kids helps too). One of my favorite things about baseball—and Phil puts this better than I can—is that every team has hope this time of year. Even the Pirates and Royals!
As excited as I am about the boys in blue, I’m also intrigued by the Rangers, Reds, Mariners, & Marlins. Is this the year the Twins go all the way? Is the Angels pitching staff vastly underrated? It’s a one out of 30 shot to win it all (except for the Yankees, but we all know that). Buy a ticket and hope for the best. Race preparation starts in about a week.
Yeah, mine's jacked up too
Making following along with some of the posts a little challenging. I hope it’s not a permanant thing like what happens with facebook every few months.
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
The only problem I’m seeing is the front page right sidebar thing, which I did report. If anyone is seeing other problems, you can report then using the “Contact us” link at the bottom of the main page or this page.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
On my PC
there’s a huge blank gap that covers the quarter of front page. Then It gets to the stories.
by Julio Nievas on Feb 12, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Seems to be working better now
thanks for the tip.
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
by S Jay Bruin on Feb 12, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
A Fan Post forthcoming?
Which playoff team had the most starts by its first 5 starting pitchers in 2009?
I’ll put the answer this way, if you were doing a scatter chart, you would see a most of the dots in the 123-140 (starts) area and then you would see one outlier at 155.
I think if you are going to talk about whether or not a team can contend in 2010, let’s start with the idea that rarely do teams repeat that type of starting pitching consistency.
I’ll read that Fan Post with a drink…on the rocks.
by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Olympics
to bad about the warm weather. Funny that DC has more snow then Whistler. Well funny to me, probably not to the organizers who have spent six years getting ready for this.
Here is to two weeks of skiing, speed skating, and all the other interesting little sports that we care so little about until the Olympics show up. I’m always dazzled by something and somebody.
The 1973 All-Star Game Highlights are on MLB network. Just saw Wilie Davis hit a home run, his last year as a Dodger. Could swear he was wearing an Atlanta Braves batting helmet though!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yep!
Must have been an equipment mixup:

by Eric Stephen on Feb 12, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
the journey
I’ve been a Dodger fan for over fifty years now, and although I’ll take a championship of any type at any time, I’ve got to agree that as I have aged, I’ve come to appreciate the anticipation, the ebb and flow of each new season, as the true meaning of being a baseball fan. Having said this, Ned, can you please find us another quality starting arm before the season gets rolling?
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