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Jim Tracy isn't the first person to be spurned by Hollywood. But unlike "American Idol" castoffs and poor actors, Tracy has a legitimate complaint, a gripe that is quietly fueling the 54-year-old manager.

As he packed his truck and belongings for the drive from snow-covered Pittsburgh to sun- splashed Tucson this week, Tracy discussed several topics about his Rockies club, including personal motivation traced to his 2005 season with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

"We had a 93-game winner in 2004. I was really looking forward to coming back with a similar nucleus. We were young and athletic, just like the team I have now," Tracy said. "I walked in the clubhouse that first day of spring training and was shaking hands with three-quarters of the guys because they were all new."

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Jim Tracy is dead to me

He has a hard-on for that damn 2004 team, and refuses to take any responsibility — none at all — for any of his failures, either in LA or Pittsburgh. Here’s an article from when Tracy was fired by the Pirates by beat writer Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazzette:

Quite curiously, the shortcomings that Tracy had in personnel or instructional matters seemed to originate from his never-ending emotional tie with the 2004 Los Angeles Dodgers, the $100 million team he managed to the West Division title.

He spoke about them incessantly, to the media and to the players. He even tried to recreate them, it seemed.

Before Tracy had donned a Pirates uniform, in the winter of 2006, he met with center fielder Chris Duffy and told Duffy he should play like Dave Roberts, the Dodgers’ leadoff man, even though all Duffy and Roberts had in common was being fast. Among the instructions: Duffy, a line-drive hitter, was told to pound the ball into the ground. He failed miserably, quit baseball for a month and has yet to recover.

Tracy told shortstop Jack Wilson, a three-time runner-up for the Gold Glove, that he did not like his approach to ground balls, that it should be more like Cesar Izturis of the 2004 Dodgers. Wilson had his worst defensive year in 2006 and, at Tracy’s behest, Izturis was acquired from the Chicago Cubs this past July. It was at Tracy’s urging that Wilson nearly was traded to Detroit in late July, after which Wilson batted .401 in the season’s final two months.

There was more: Jose Castillo was told to be like Adrian Beltre. Bench players were told to be versatile like Jose Hernandez, who also was acquired. Even Tracy’s batting orders were modeled based on profiles of the 2004 Dodgers.

Another fallout of that connection, possibly, was that a mostly inexperienced group of Pirates was expected to perform — and behave — just as those veteran Dodgers did, without extra instruction or attention.

I can’t wait until Tracy tries to get Tulo to be more like Izturis.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 11:30 AM PST reply actions  

Or tells Helton

to wear a pair of goggles.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 17, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I never knew about this. That is creeeeeepy. Lol.

by Ivdown on Feb 17, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed – this is really strange.

by delias man on Feb 17, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

it's like the girlfriend

who never gets over her break up and starts asking her new boyfriend to dress, eat, act and do everything just like her ex. I’d recommend some counselling.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Feb 17, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what we in the business call a callback.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd recommend an even hotter boyfriend than the ex...

In this respect, I think Tracy’s finally found his keeper after that strange rebound with the Pirates.

No seriously, he does get oddly nostalgic for the Dodgers, but so far no turning Tulo into Izturis, thankfully. He is trying to get him to be more like Cal Ripken, though. Maybe the 1983 Orioles were a flame from a past managerial life.

by Rox Girl on Feb 17, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The worm will turn

it won’t be long into his new tenure before the blogs are calling for his head.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 17, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed…last year was a fluke. The Rockie faithful is foaming at the mouth, but the Giants will improve and knock them into 4th place.

by KellyStephen on Feb 17, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That reminds me of this episode of CSI Miami where this plastic surgeon was obsessed with trying to make a woman look like his late wife. That’s creepy.

by StolenMonkey86 on Feb 17, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Tis a shame that Jim

had to try to play with newly acquired all-stars like Drew, Kent, and Lowe. I’m sure he’d rather have had Finley, Cora, and Lima in 2005 instead, since these were the players they replaced. 2005 spring is when I’d had it with Tracy. I had the misfortune of going to a presentation at Dodger Stadium in which Tommy, Depodesta, and Tracy took the podium. As season ticket holders had plenty of questions we had to hold our tongue when Tracy took the podium and I kid you not blathered for 15 minutes about what a great kid Milton Bradley was when someone asked him the inevitable question about his temper. 15 minutes of hell, the closest I’d ever come to just banding my hands on the table and yelling for him to shut up. Every bloody eye in that was rolling in their heads. Tommy started snoring, Depo started texting, and Frank was thanking him since he wouldn’t have any time left to answer any real questions.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 17, 2010 3:47 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Not that I was happy you had to sit through that, but your description of that event cracked me up.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t even remember the 2004 team to be that talented.

by Tripon on Feb 17, 2010 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

I was talking about this 2 nights ago with my friends

that even if they got Big Rat in the Billz trade they would have not have won the WS.

by delias man on Feb 17, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, not to be forgotten that the 2004 Cardinals might have been the best NL team of the past two decades that season (105 wins, 100-62 pythag record)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't matter

the Sox totally blanked them, and would have killed any other NL team that made it to the WS that year.

by Seanny Rotten on Feb 17, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It was Beltre

playing at being Pujols and incredible middle infield defense, and a good CF in Milton before the made the mistake of moving him to right field. Oh and that guy Werth. And Gagne. Yeah, fun team to root for.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 17, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d give you Beltre, but Werth only played in 82 games that year.

by Tripon on Feb 17, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

89

and he was a regular after mid June

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That Itzuris/Cora combo was unbelievable. It was certainly one of the best I can remember and I loved the way Vin called their double plays.

by prosellis on Feb 17, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions  

...

too bad neither could handle the bat to save their lives.

by Seanny Rotten on Feb 17, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Cora did seem to handle the bat just fine in one certain at-bat of eighteen pitches though.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 17, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 17, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Cora

was second on the team in OBP.

by prosellis on Feb 17, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

OT

But this is an awesome soccer ad by Puma. Found the link from a poster on BTF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2wFptAX3k

by Tripon on Feb 17, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Amazing baseball research here by Tom Shieber regarding a controversial baseball cap (link found via Rob Neyer’s links column today).

by Eric Stephen on Feb 17, 2010 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

That is an

awesome story. Thanks for posting Eric!

by keithc13 on Feb 17, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Great piece.

Baseball’s history is so fascinating. Its good to know there are guys out there willing to invest the time and effort required to remind us of that fact.

by prosellis on Feb 17, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

After reading that article from Jim Tracy’s stay at the pirates I have concluded that Jim Tracy is insane. The 2004 was 100 million dollar team that won one playoff game.

If we yield now, all is over; but if we fight, there is yet a hope that we may stand upright

by Sordid on Feb 17, 2010 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

I still love the title of this FanShot

every time I see it on the sidebar.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 25, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

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