Is Felix Hernandez headed for surgery?
or greatness?
To see the rest of this story you will need to deposit $5.00 into the TBLA fund. Don't peek, it would not be sporting.
That headline could be used for every single pitcher in America, hopefully it caused you to donate to read a puff piece.
Based on the research I did last night on Kershaw it seems that Felix is in as select company as Clayton was.
Looking at right handed pitchers who have struck out at least 700 batters by the age of 24 since post - integration you get quite a mixed bag. 15 right handed pitchers since 1947 have accomplished this task.
We have four HOF pitchers Drysdale, Sutton, Eckersly, Catfish Hunter, and one who should be in Bert Blyleven. So a nice 33 % of the guys on the list went on to even more greatness. Kind of cool that two of them are Los Angeles Dodgers. How about the others on this list?
Dwight Gooden was so good from age 19-21that his subsequent years look bad but he was still carrying a plus 140 ERA+ until age 28. He wasn't done until age 29, I think any fan would take what Doc produced. His peak was better then any of the HOF on this list.
Larry Dierker paid the price for pitching 300 innings at the age of 22 and was basically done as an above average pitcher after that year.
Denny McLain was the last pitcher to win 30 games and he did it by throwing 335 innings at the age of 24. He had one more great year left in his right arm and then was done as an effective pitcher. He did go on to have a life that may rank is as the more interesting in the history of the game after he retired.
Dave Boswell was only 19 when he squared off against the Dodgers in the 1965 World Series but he never really made his mark in baseball.
Gary Nolan had one of the greatest 19 year old seasons in history but that season came at a big price since it involved throwing over 225 innings. After struggling for two years the arm bounced back with a great age 24 season. However that was it as far as being a dominant pitcher with surgery making him miss his age 25/26 seasons.
Joe Coleman was alot like Dave Boswell. He's on this list because he was pitching full time in the rotation since the age of 20. Maybe he'd been better if he hadn't thrown so many innings before he turned 24 but he rarely a good pitcher. A Brett Tomko type who showed promise but never delivered.
Jeremy Bonderman showed enough promise he was pitching in the Tiger rotation at the age of 20. He's been hurt since the age of 25, but never delivered on the promise even when he was a mainstay in the rotation from age 20 - 24.
Matt Cain just turned 25 and has been a solid number two man in the Giant rotation since he started pitching full time in the rotation at age 21.
Mark Prior didn't really throw alot of innings, he simply broke down at age 23.
When it comes to paths it is obvious that Felix is much better then the likes of Boswell / Coleman. It is obvious his arm has not been overused like many on this list. It is obvious that if he can escape surgery, Felix Hernandez has one hell of a future a head of him. This list was created for those have pitched up until their age 24 season. Felix still has a season to go, with expectations of 200 K's in 2010, he will probably join Blyleven, Gooden, and Drysdale as the only 24 years olds to have amassed 1,000 Strikeouts.
King Felix indeed.
Player SO From To Age IP ERA ERA+ Bert Blyleven 1327 1970 1975 19-24 1611.1 2.78 133 Dwight Gooden 1168 1984 1989 19-24 1291.0 2.64 132 Don Drysdale 1004 1956 1961 19-24 1315.1 3.30 126 Larry Dierker 965 1964 1971 17-24 1409.1 3.14 109 Denny McLain 917 1963 1968 19-24 1176.2 3.11 107 Catfish Hunter 881 1965 1970 19-24 1312.2 3.52 94 Dennis Eckersley 855 1975 1979 20-24 1148.1 3.12 128 Dave Boswell 820 1964 1969 19-24 967.2 3.28 107 Gary Nolan 817 1967 1972 19-24 1156.2 2.83 127 Felix Hernandez 810 2005 2009 19-23 905.0 3.45 125 Joe Coleman 797 1965 1971 18-24 1136.1 3.42 99 Jeremy Bonderman 768 2003 2007 20-24 923.1 4.78 93 Don Sutton 757 1966 1969 21-24 959.1 3.28 95 Matt Cain 729 2005 2009 20-24 872.1 3.53 126 Mark Prior 719 2002 2005 21-24 613.1 3.24 133
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But before I read the opening sentence, I was really shocked
then I saw the please donate $5 comment, and knew it was a joke :)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Feb 17, 2010 8:47 PM PST reply actions
I was really expecting
“Is Chone Figgins A Bust” article – but this will do. Nicely done. :)
vr, Xei
Dave C explained the title in the other thread
Probably can put this baby to sleep now. After all, we aren’t like Giants fans. :)
vr, Xei
If we were, we would have banned Dave for raining on our parade.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Feb 17, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
LOL as soon as the "headline" appeared on the main page.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Longtime Twins fans probably remember, but I have a vague memory that Dave Boswell was a injury victim. Looking at his stats, he wins 20 (a big deal in those days – there were six 20-game winners in the AL that season) at age 24 (115 ERA+), then falls off a cliff – maybe my memory is correct.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Maybe he hurt it when he got in a fight with Billy Martin
that is my recollection that just go triggered. Now to google it see if it we can find anything.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Feb 17, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Here we go
got to love Google.
http://coffeyvillewhirlwind.wordpress.com/2007/08/06/billy-martin-kos-dave-boswell/
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Feb 17, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Nice pull from the Gurnee memory banks. Now that you mention it (and reading the link), that is a familiar story, but one I’d surely never have recalled.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Feb 17, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
i have not read the post yet
do i have to pay 5 dollars before doing so?
YIKES!
I meant PITCHES! PITCHES, PEOPLE!
Maybe the best honest typo I’ve ever made




















