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Spring Training Battle: Lefty on the Bench

With pitchers & catchers scheduled to report to the cool side of Camelback Ranch on Saturday, spring training is just around the corner.  The Dodgers have a few battles ahead of them, but for today I will concentrate on the bench, specifically the primary left-handed pinch hitter.

I'm going to make a few assumptions regarding the bench, namely that three spots are already etched in stone:

The battle for starting second baseman is between Ronnie Belliard, Blake DeWitt, and a scale, as Belliard's contract becomes guaranteed if he weighs in at 209 pounds or less at any point during spring training.   I believe Carroll was signed to be the backup at second and third, starting occasionally at both positions.  Carroll's role would have been the same whether DeWitt or Belliard was the starter.  Much like last year with Orlando Hudson, the market for second baseman tanked and as the winter dragged on Belliard drew closer and closer to the Dodgers' price range.

If general manager Ned Colletti has established any type of trend in roster building, it's that he prefers veterans for bench roles, with the theory that the development of younger players would be better served by playing everyday in the minors rather that playing sporadically in the majors and sitting on the bench most of the time.  Thus, even though the 24-year old DeWitt bats left-handed, I don't consider him a candidate for a bench role.  He will likely either win the second base job or get the DeWitt Discount on yet another flight to Albuquerque.

Xavier Paul is the only other player on the 40-man roster that fits the bill as a potential left-handed pinch hitter, and he also provides flexibility with the ability to play all three outfield spots.  However, he is much more likely to spend his age 25 season playing everyday in Triple A, for the reasons noted above.

Of the 14 non-roster batters, there are two switch hitters: JD Closser and Alfredo Amezaga.  I don't even want to know all the dominoes that would have to fall for Closser to fill this bench role; if anything his shot of making the big league roster is as backup catcher, which would require a few injuries as well.  Amezaga has hit better from the left side in his career, but his .687 OPS from that side isn't likely to win him this role.  Amezaga, who is recovering from micro-fracture surgery on his left knee, is more likely to make the club as the backup shortstop (and occasional outfielder) than as the primary lefty pinch hitter.

That leaves us with two likely veteran options: Doug Mientkiewicz and Brian Giles.  Here is a quick look at their stats against right-handed pitchers over the last three years:

Doug Mientkiewicz
Age:  36
Year PA 2B HR BA/OBP/SLG OPS wRC+
2007 159 11 5 .286/.351/.471 .822 118
2008 281 14 2 .283/.384/.376 .760 109
2009 17 1 0 .333/.412/.400 .812 129
 
Brian Giles
Age:  39
Year PA 2B HR BA/OBP/SLG OPS wRC+
2007 367 19 11 .286/.368/.458 .826 126
2008 424 29 11 .309/.399/.485 .883 146
2009 165 8 2 .221/.309/.321 .630 79
 Thanks to Baseball-Reference & FanGraphs

Both missed significant time last season with injuries.  Mientkiewicz separated his shoulder stretching a single into a double in April, and didn't come back until September.  Giles has an arthritic right knee and he didn't play after June 18 last season.  Mientkiewicz might have some sort of advantage as the incumbent, and ordinarily I would credit him for having defensive versatility, but I'm not sure this bench role will require much glove work.  Mientkiewicz also has more experience coming off the bench, with 107 career pinch hitting plate appearances versus 57 for Giles.

Giles has the benefit of having the more potent bat, specifically in the power department.  He has been hampered by Petco Park, and has an ISO (isolated power) of .168 on the road over the last three years, versus just .100 in San Diego.  Over that same period, Giles hit a home run every 35.8 plate appearances on the road versus one every 117.8 PA at home.  The Dodgers haven't had a real power threat off the bench since Olmedo Saenz (although Wilson Betemit had a nice run in 2007), so the allure of a healthy Giles might be too strong to ignore.

This spot pretty much comes down to health.  If Giles is healthy, he will hit, and he'll win the job.  If not, Mientkiewicz likely will get the role, at least for as long as he remembers to slide feet first.

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ESPN.com/LA’s Tony Jackson says Dodgers did not sign Eric Gagne Wednesday night, contrary to this CTV report

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 8:59 AM PST reply actions  

You think that means they are still considering it?

by delias man on Feb 18, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

At this point, I’m guessing it’s imminent. But we’ll see.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably, but just that nothing is done yet.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t tell me you wouldn’t get goosebumps if Welcome to the Jungle came on over the speakers even just one more time and seeing Gagne running out to the mound. It would be worth it if it happened just one time when Broxton was resting that day with a 3 run lead, lol.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Even if Gagne were to (1) sign, then (2) make the team, he will not be closing any games, unless a whole slew of people are unavailable. Relievers don’t get music when they enter a game in the fifth or sixth inning. :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Any chance he is going to be in the running for the 5th spot in the rotation? I thought I read where he was trying to come back as a starter. Even at that, I would think that he is only in the running in the same sense that Ortiz and Towers are in the running for the 5th spot.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the answers might be yes and yes.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m thinking they might make an exception, at least once…

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I really think they would for him. Signing him would essentially be for the publicity at this point, so if he actually makes the majors they would have to do something.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Given the Manny suspension was only last season, is signing one of the most prominent Dodgers (second to Lo Duca?) in the Mitchell report good publicity?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Good or bad the opinion on people who took steroids isnt as bad as it use to be, and Manny didn’t get close to the scrutiny that most of the other ones got, so with Gagne I think he would get so much less. Gagne was everyone’s favorite from 02-04, so I don’t think it would be a bad thing to most Dodger fans if here were signed to a minor league deal.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that, it’s just me being nostalgic and wanting to see it one last time :(

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I will admit, it would be pretty exciting.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

As someone who witnessed 2000 Hershiser, I would say I would not have goosebumps to see Gagne come in.

by delias man on Feb 18, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I was happy to see Hershiser, even though I was hiding my eyes by the end.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

2000 Orel: worst ERA in modern baseball history (1901-present) for anyone with 20+ innings.

http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/f9MDQ

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

It could make for an interesting blog post comparing the two seasons, perhaps with a dash of 2004 Hideo Nomo thrown into the mix.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

In his first home start in 2000, Hershiser allowed one run in six innings in an 8-1 Dodger victory.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

In his final start, he gave up eight runs in the second inning and was relieved with two out by Carlos Perez.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

And in an embarrassing moment for Dodger fans, he was booed upon his removal. (The group I was with knew it was his last appearance as a Dodger and cheered him wildly.) People can reminisce about Gibson until they’re blue in the face, but Hershy was the ’88 season.

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

I remember almost being in tears hearing that boo. Easily one of my worst moments in Dodger stadium.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s the “2005 Dodgers started 12-2” moment where the click in the roller coaster happens :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t even remind me. Ughhh.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

As someone who witnessed 1988 Sutton I would say I would not have goosebumps to see Gagne come in. :)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Oooh, good one. I forgot about 1988 Sutton.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Us old farts have our uses!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Good old Score. Classic.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think the “Dodgers” script on the road unis were cool. Not that I don’t like the current ones, but I grew up with these.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers wore the “Los Angeles” road unis through 1969 then switched to the “Dodgers” road grays to start the 1970s. I barely remember the late 60s, so I more or less grew up with the “Dodgers” ones, but I applaud the return to the “Los Angeles” road jerseys. I heartily endorse wearing the city name on the road unis.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, I like having Los Angeles on the road unis too. I own one jersey, it’s a road one because I like having Los Angeles on there.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

In the early 60s, the Lakers represented L.A. on their road unis also:

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

your image isn’t working but I think those are the ones I’ve seen at Staples a few times, they’re great.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Funny, showed up when I posted but disappeared with the refresh. Click here.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

and yes, they’ve worn them on throwback days.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL that link doesn’t work either, I think the site has off-site use of images disabled, strange that it worked in preview though.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

He looks like he should be playing with the Who

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Gagne was my hero back in 04-05, let me have my delusional fantasies!

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

If Giles wins the job, I’m wondering a) if Eye Chart somehow also makes it and b) if he’d accept a AAA assignment.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

Very doubtful there is room for both on the bench, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Mientkiewicz accepted a spot in AAA to start the season.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Doug’s veteran status gives him the right to refuse? Or does his deal bind him to the club for a year?

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I know for sure Giles has an out clause, but I don’t know if Mientkiewicz does. He most likely does, but they could probably convince him to stick around; perhaps renegotiate a new deal with a new date (May or June) that he has to be called up or released, like they did with Eric Milton last year.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Made a couple of revisions

to the payroll worksheet:

Reed Johnson’s incentives:

$50,000 for 80 games played
$75,000 for 100 G
$50,000 for 300 plate appearances
$75,000 for 350 PA

Jason Schmidt’s deferred money is paid out $2m in 2010, $1.5m in 2011 (not $2.5/1 as I had before).

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

I am pulling for

Giles to win the lefty spot on the bench, though I won’t be too unhappy if Minky gets the nod. I would just like to have a little pop off the bench is all.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

I’ll be happy if Giles wins the job because he is healthy and can hit. The baseball. OTOH, I can be happy if he doesn’t make the team, if it turns out that any significant part of what he is accused of is true.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

and I wonder if anyone will bring up Giles at the “Safe at Home” Torre/Koufax event next Saturday. I don’t even know if there is a Q&A, but that is a tempting question to ask.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe there’s a better venue for that question. Like, anywhere else on earth, starting in Camelback.

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

agree, it’s kind of a sucker punch type question that has no good answer I would think…

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right: the level of awkwardness would be crazy on Feb 27.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

True. Very true. If Giles is guilty of what he is accused of, then I don’t care how good he hits.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

That video tape and eye witness account seem pretty damning. I’m fine with not having him on the team, even if it means giving up a win or two.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I would tend to agree, although it would seem to be a break from the norm for Ned to sign a veteran with some questionable character issues or outstanding scandal that could reflect negatively on the team. He typically brings in good character types, especially to fill out these final spots on the team, so I would think that they did their homework on him.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Ned became making exceptions the moment he signed Furcal. But of course, driving drunk still gets a free pass in baseball. Did Belisario even get a slap on the wrist?

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought

about Furcal, but I think Ned relaxes his standards when it comes to possible starting impact players. Bellisario didn’t get his DUI until he was already on the team.

I am referring more to bench players like the Lorretta, Ausmus, Minky types that fill out the last couple of spots on the team.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If Giles clobbers the ball at Camelback, I’m sure Ned will relax his standards a little bit.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

When managers like Tony LaRussa barely get disciplined for it, I can’t hardly expect the players to be, though they should.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree that they probably think Giles is past this issue, or has at least moved on, but don’t forget Ned signed….

double DUI Rafael Furcal…twice
Gary Bennett, fresh off the Mitchell Report

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Bennett was just an odd signing, not a particularly good defensive catcher and not really known as an outstanding citizen in baseball. That was definitely a misstep.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

What event

are you all talking about with Giles?

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

beating his gf, pregnant gf I think.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I meant incident.

Man, that kind of thing really pisses me off.

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you are referring

to the Torre/Koufax event. If someone wasted a question about Giles on that Event I’d hang him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I was at the game

with great seats the night Eyechart hurt himself. I can’t remember the context perfectly other than it was a big hit at a big moment, but when he went into that bizarre swan dive I immediately was like WTF was that?!

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

Two-RBI double against the Giants to push out the lead to four in the bottom of the sixth. I remember watching it on TV and wondering why the hell guys slide when they know there’s no play coming.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

from my seat

about 120 feet away, it looked like a kind of “victory slide”, the crowd was rockin’ and I think it was his first hit (first PA?) of the year.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

That double made him 2 for 5

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

That play actually had a larger ripple effect, pushing Loretta into a more prominent PH role against both lefties and righties. I think Loretta suffered because of it.

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d be surprised if Carroll, in the Lorretta role, SLGs much more than .300

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Carroll in the Loretta role? I am slightly confused as to exactly what Carroll will be asked to do this season.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup. Although Carroll fill in at 2B and 3B, instead of 1B and 3B.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

So, is Loney playing 162 or is Blake going to spell him and have Carroll at 3rd? Having seen some of Blake at first last year, I’m not in love with the latter.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

If Mientkiewicz wins a bench spot, he’s your backup 1B. If not, the spot starts probably go to Blake and Belliard.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t Belliard a bit too short for 1B? I know it’s the easiest position on the diamond to play, but height matters.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

If he had to do it regularly, it would be a problem. But for 5-10 starts I think they’ll work around it.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to wonder who will be the Dodger 1B in 2013. It’s not that far off anymore. :)

If Lambo is being groomed as an OF, we really have no options.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Really?

2013?

Who worries about 2013?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

How can you not be worried about 2013?? Kershaw and Kemp could be up for Free Agency around then and we might have to worry about if we can resign them or not! lol

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

We have Kershaw through 2014, so rest easy! :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Do we? Did 08 not count as a full season for Kershaw and it’s an Ethier type of situation?

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I am almost clueless as to how it all works, but if it helps the Dodgers, then hell yes!

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Kershaw only got 105 days of service time in 2008. A full season is 183 days long, but you only have to get 172 days to accumulate a full year (and you can’t accumulate more than 172 in any given year).

The lowest a Super Two has ever been in terms of service time was 2 years, 129 days. There is pretty much no chance Kershaw will be among the top 17% of the guys with in between 2-3 years service time to be a Super Two.

So the Dodgers will get Kershaw until he has completed six full years, which runs through 2014. And only three of them will be arb years.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

That was helpful. I didn’t realize it had to be 6 full seasons of service time, I thought just 6 seasons in general besides like september callups.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You resisted an opportunity to try and twist that into an Ethier-or situation. Kudos.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Once the game in Washington happened last year, my Ethier/Orr thirst was quenched.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You will get thirsty again if Kyle Orr ever learns to hit.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

No question.

Imagine if we draft a pitcher with the last name of Aand or something :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently Jon Cusack was unable to convince Silverwidow that the world will end in 2012 :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not falling for that again, not after May 5, 2000.

by silverwidow on Feb 18, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I admire that you type out Doug’s last name and spell it correctly.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I take pride in knowing how to spell it, much like Grudzielanek. :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only one that was for signing him to be the backup 2b this season :D

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

The Dodgers would have run out of letters to put on jerseys. Frank would have asked them to differ Z’s and K’s over three years.

by prosellis on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I wanted him last year

Thought he and DeWitt would have been a decent solution.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve wanted him since he left like 8 years ago or whenever it was.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, he’s sort of in the Loretta role, only with actual playing time at 2B. And hopefully the presence of a LHB pinch hitter will lessen the PH load on Carrolloretta

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

For instance, Carroll got 28 starts last year (14 each at 1B and 2B)…I expect Carroll to double that.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

?

?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Carroll will start ~60 or so games (possibly more)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure

but is this correct

Carroll got 28 starts last year (14 each at 1B and 2B)"

I didn’t even know Carroll played 1B

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops

meant Loretta started 28 games in 2009

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Saturday, March 20: Think Cure to participate in NPN LA 5K run/walk starting at Dodger Stadium

http://www.thinkcure.org/5K

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

In case this wasn't mentioned this morning

Buster Olney talked with Colletti regarding the club’s 5th starter candidates, and the names are all ones we expect:

Elbert, Haeger, McDonald, Monasterios, Stults, Ortiz, Ortiz, Towers

Lindblom wasn’t listed, but he could have been missed by Buster:

I don’t know if I kept up and jotted down every name he mentioned over the phone, but here is at least most of them

Nothing new here.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

Headlines

So we’re already into our name-a-day spring training stories, and I find the headlines somewhat amusing (just for the angle that is chosen). Here are the last two:

“Ethier not satisfied with past success”
“Kuroda aims to recover from painful ’09”

What others stories do we have to look forward to?

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Furcal says back is “now” pain free

Casey Blake is a moderating influence on his younger teammates

Martin expects to bounce back with new exercise program

2009 was a learning experience for Billingsley

Russ Ortiz has so much to offer the young pitchers on the Dodgers

Brian Giles looking to prove he can help the Dodgers

Ausmus teaching Martin how to sacrifice power for play calling

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Wade looking to rebound

Gagne in the best shape of his life

Belliard tips the scales in his favor

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Heagar not going to knuckle under the pressure

Weaver comfortable in the Dodger environment

by OB12 on Feb 18, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

DeWitt awarded ‘Super Platinum’ status by airline

Barton calculates odds of making roster, not pleased with results

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Kemp won’t let limelight affect performance.
Broxton trying tinted contacts to hide the look in his eyes.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Dodgers seek No. 5 starter

Dodgers still seek No. 5 starter

No. 5 starter still on Dodger agenda

Fans: ‘Where the hell is my No. 5 starter?’

Dodgers find No. 5 starter, still seek ace

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Dodgers shuffle the deck to find an ace

Nick Green still can’t believe non-strike call, or that Rivera didn’t dive

Ramon Ortiz signed by accident due to clerical error searching for “R.Ortiz”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

These are all good

I’ll add a few more:

Sherrill hopes he won’t be left behind when the end is near

Armando Zerpa commands respects through words, deeds

Scott Dohmann promises big year if given chance

Argenis Reyes: Who is he and how long has he been playing baseball?

XP sees Windows of opportunity closing

Jason Schmidt finally pain free, reaching upper 90s on radar gun

Juan Pierre slams Colletti, Torre in expletive-laden tirade at Sox Fest

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL at the Xavier Paul one. Nice.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The Schmidt one was the best one, haha.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Good ones on here....

Casey Blake: “Why did he shave his beard…”

by keithc13 on Feb 18, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Very interesting player perspective

on arbitration, from Brian Bruney, who lost his case with the Nats. Thanks to Federal Baseball

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

It comes in spurts. But I enjoy it. A lot of it is my old gang, after all …

by JonWeisman on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

since you’re here, let me just say I am loving Dodger Thoughts on ESPN LA. Great stuff, as always, but I like the look of the site and the features a lot more than the Times.

by LA Taco on Feb 18, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You trained them well

when they first came over, lots of swearing but the novelty wore off and it is like we have our own 10 rules. However the no hitter rule falls by the 3rd inning.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Just don't send D4P

over here.

Study just came out that says being happy helps the heart. I’m not sure if they studied the fact that having a healthy heart might play into being happy and that the correlation is simply culling the herd.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to make a prediction and say Minky

wins the backup lefty bench spot. IF he’s healthy, I believe he can still hit, has the requisite veteran-ness, and can spell Loney at 1st which may come in handy once in awhile. (Hopefully not due to injury.) Of course Loney being a lefty also means that it wouldn’t be to spell Loney for that reason…

I really do think Giles is close to done, and it sounds like he’ll be willing to admit that too if that’s the case. If I’m wrong, and he reverts to form of 2 or more years ago, fine by me. But I don’t see it. I also still want XPaul, even on the bench. But I know that’s not gonna happen anytime soon.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 18, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

I think Mientkiewicz is the most likely to win the spot, especially since it’s likely Giles isn’t healthy enough to still be productive.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 12:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Screw car rental companies

I’m a safe driver, but because I’m 20 I’m screwed if I want to rent a car. UGHHH.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Face it boys, I’m older than you and I have better insurance.
(That’s a movie you probably never expected to be referenced in a baseball blog.)

I guess you have to blame your peers for their exemplary track record. Of course, it’s been this way for a long time, so you can blame us old farts for what we did in our 20s also.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks David!

I’ll be the first to say people my age really suck at driving, whether by being reckless or not paying enough attention. It just sucks because I was taught driving by my dad who is the safest driver I’ve ever seen, and I have to deal with all the crap from everyone else who sucks at driving :(

I was planning a road trip to Phoenix on March 6th to the night of the 7th for a Coyotes game with my gf. I asked my sister to borrow one of her 5 cars, lol, which was the Hummer 2, but she’s worried because I will be going so far and doesn’t want me to take it. My dad most likely won’t let me take his car for the same reason. I don’t know anyone else that I could borrow a car from.

Oh, my car is an 90 Miata with a cracked radiator so I have to fill it with water any time I drive it, and it gets taxed at 80 miles, so I wouldn’t even try 400.

Stupid life! lol

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha

my fun car is 92 Miata. Still doesn’t have 100,000 miles on it.

What kind of sister has five cars and won’t let you borrow one? Phoenix is nothing, tell your sister to quit treating you like a baby brother. A Hummer 2 to Phoenix will cost you plenty.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I would probably settle for a Hummer 2 Banning.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, that’s funny. That car model was the same for almost a decade so they are probably very similar. Mine is a red convertible.

Mine has around 113000 miles on it, but I put 14 k on it in the last year my self and my dad had it for 19 years before that : / lol

I know she wants to help, but her husband is going to be the one with the problem with me going that far with it. She’s just worried something will happen and it’s too risky. She has a lexus (she drives that), integra (husband drives that), an older f-150, an 80s caddy, and the Hummer 2. I chose to ask for the Hummer because I’ve driven it to Hollywood before for Prom, and the 150 would be the same gas-wise.

I did the math and it would cost 220 bucks on gas if I went 1000 miles and the Hummer got 14 mpg. If I actually got to take it I would be happy to pay that much because it’s the only option I’ve got…well…had.

Oh well.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

$220 – wouldn’t a pair of plane tix on SW, and a taxi from the hotel to the areana and back be cheaper? Heck, pick the right hotel and they probably have a free arena shuttle.

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by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought about that, but it’s 3 weeks from now (2 weekends really), and I don’t really know the cost of taxi’s or the info for shuttles. I assumed we’d just be able to borrow the car since I asked my sister a month ago about it and she still hasn’t gotten around to asking her husband :(

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I just check at that time and there are $49 flights one way from Southwest. You can’t beat that

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm, so it would be around 200 for both of us roundtrip anyway. That’s worth considering.

I’ve got a friend who is going to Phoenix the same day (or weekend) for Spring Training, so we could theoretically go with him…though my gf hates him, so i’m not so sure, lol.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

“asking her husband” – doesn’t that go something like, “honey, my brother is borrowing the Hummer.” ?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a cool enough guy, but he’s protective of his cars. My sister told me she wouldn’t let her stepson take the car on a trip like that, it’s just too bad that I’m way more responsible than he ever has been.

I think I’m going to end up having to ask my gf’s parents to take their main car (pt cruiser) for the trip. I don’t want to ask, but I think they’d do it.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, a PT Cruiser is just like renting a car, so now you did it!

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My mom had one and it broke down so horribly after only a few years, with good maintenance, Im just worried about driving to Phoenix then it breaking down, lol.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a place on Airport and Arbor Vitae near LAX that will rent under 25.

by delias man on Feb 18, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I should have mentioned it 2 hours ago when this started.

by delias man on Feb 18, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t most places rent under 25…they just hit you with a fee.

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t know. But there is a huge sign saying they will.

by delias man on Feb 18, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm, I’ll have to check that out, thanks.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

A hummer for a hummer

would do the trick.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

5 cars and none to borrow. What is up with that?

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s the fact that the distance is so far, so it doesnt really matter if she has any that are free.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't get hurt now

we’d all feel bad for egging you on.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahah. Next time you hear from me I’ll be sitting in a wheel chair.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know what is a more ban-able offense:

1) You referencing Fried Green Tomatoes
or
2) Me knowing the reference immediately!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Great movie

Southern stories are a bit more interesting then Hollywood tripe.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Who would have thought that Fannie Flagg, who I always thought of as the game show lady: Match Game!, had that kind of story in her? I wonder how the movie would have worked if she hadn’t written out the lesbian angle that was in her book. BTW, did you know that Fannie Flagg’s birth name is Patricia Neal? She’s one of those folk that was required to take a stage name to get in the union. And check out this story on her wikipedia page:

At one time Flagg was linked in the press (and was in some reports said to be married) to actor Dick Sargent. The two appeared as a couple on the 1970s game show Tattletales, which featured celebrities and their spouses, though at no time were they presented as a true couple. Host Bert Convy would introduce them as “Dick Sargent and his lady, Fannie Flagg.” Sargent was himself gay and eventually came out before his death in 1994.4
Hilarious – I love it.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 18, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Richard Dawson used to kill on the old Match Game. Everyone would choose him for the final question, which I think is why they changed the final partner to be determined by a spinner.

by kinbote on Feb 18, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

At least I inspired

one of the funniest threads I’ve seen in a while. No, I had not seen that, thanks for sharing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Feb 18, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahaha. Those are so great.

10. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: February 18, 2010 at 10:30 AM (#3462670)
FELIX HERNANDEZ LINKED TO PED

…ro Martinez, and other excellent pitchers.

This is my favorite so far.

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

There are some really good ones

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 18, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Win
47. Accent Shallow Posted: February 18, 2010 at 01:15 PM (#3462881)
FELIX HERNANDEZ ENDS WAR

. . .“He’s just too good to evaluate via one metric,” says Dave Cameron

by Ivdown on Feb 18, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

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1B 7 Loney $3,100,000
2B  13 Theriot $909,290
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SS 14 Carroll $1,475,000
LF  21 Podsednik $640,710
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RF 16 Ethier $6,000,000

OF 5 Johnson $800,000
2B/3B/1B 3 Belliard $825,000
OF/1B 31 Gibbons $155,738
C 12 Ausmus $850,000

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SP 37 Monasterios $460,000

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RHP 51 Broxton $4,000,000
RHP  26 Dotel $636,612
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Jansen $159,563
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RHP 38 Troncoso $297,792
RHP 36 Weaver $800,000
LHP 52 Sherrill $4,500,000

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Wolf $2,000,000


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Nomar $1,250,000
Anderson $409,699
Ra.Ortiz $349,727
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DeWitt $266,612
AAA 17 Ellis $264,481


Ohman $200,000
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Repko $122,951
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