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Manny Ramirez Sees The End of the Line

"You can sit around and wait for the phone to ring
Waiting for someone to tell you everything
Sit around and wonder what tomorrow will bring
Maybe a diamond ring"

-Traveling Wilburys, End of the Line

The big story of Monday morning at Camelback Ranch appears to be something we have all known since last May 7: that 2010 would be Manny's last season as a Dodger. Ever since his 50-game suspension was announced, it was all but a foregone conclusion that Manny wouldn't be back once his contract was up. If Manny didn't exercise his $20 million player option for this season, he wouldn't even be back now. Of course, nobody really has talked about this on record. Until today, that is.

Manny Ramirez met with the media today, and he delved into the topic of this season. For more details, you can find Tony Jackson of ESPN/LA, Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times, Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, and Jeff Fletcher of AOL all covered the story. From Jackson:

"I won't be here next year, so I just want to enjoy myself,'' Ramirez said. "I don't know [if I'll play next year]. I just know I'm not going to be here. When the season is over, I will see where I'm at."

All of a sudden, this non-story became big news, even though we have known it for some time. Such is the nature of the first few days of spring training. We are so starved for baseball, that we will devour any and all baseball talk.

Joe Torre didn't think the Manny news would have any effect on this season: "Our concern is this year and we're to try and do something special. No one knows where they are going to be next year." Torre also noted that Manny would rest more often in 2010, perhaps two to three games every two weeks or so.

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In other news, Will Leitch has his preview of the 2010 Dodgers up on Deadspin.

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Well the good news for Manny is

even though he won’t be on the team beyond 2010, he’ll be on the payroll long after.

No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.

by S Jay Bruin on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

The money quote
“From the waist down, I feel 15,” he said. “From the neck up, I feel 43. I feel good.”

Add that jewel to the chest of Manny-being-Manny. He’s actually been 15 from the neck up all his career. His legs are definitely 43, but other than that, I don’t care to know what he thinks is going on from the waist down.

by ishXdavid on Feb 22, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

I liked this one better

 “I was telling myself, ‘Thank you, God.’ At least I was playing. That’s how I look at things.”

(that’s just manny being his own lord and master)

by shooterm1 on Feb 23, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh

Doesn’t bother me. What will is other people making a huge deal about this when really, we knew a long time ago.

It’s the first headline on ESPN.com

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

For the first time that I can remember, there are no left handed NRI pitchers. All of the lefties we have available are already on the roster:

Elbert
Kershaw
Kuo
Leach
Sherrill
Stults
Zerpa

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

Juan Perez shakes his left fist in your general direction!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

But if he goes after silverwidow, he better switch to the right hand because when you get in a fight you don’t hit him with your pitching hand. At 31, I imagine Perez has already learned this lesson from some veteran catcher.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Juan Perez? WHOOOOOOO? :)

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Tony Jackson's stories at ESPN Los Angeles usually get a handful of comments

The Manny Ramirez story linked in the article above is up to 336 comments at this moment. I read the first few to see if I found what I expected, and I did: the comments are largely idiotic. By comparison, his Gagne story has 21 comments.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Probably because it’s featured on ESPN.com

I’d imagine your run-of-the-mill Dodger stories do not get the same treatment.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I know it's manny being himself,

but I really don’t care for the things he says. I’ve accomplished everything I want, so this is whatever. Comments like that make me question his play every game. I’d trade his power for a player with heart.

by Skunkburner on Feb 22, 2010 11:27 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Manny on his time in LA, from the Jackson story:

“That has been great,” he said. “I wish I could have been there a long time ago.”

Man, what an asshole. Get rid of him!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad you agree.

by Skunkburner on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Manny genuinely does love being in LA (he loves the beach!)

With the exception of it being the NL, I think it’s the perfect place for him. Manny allegedly hated all the media nonsense in Boston and always viewed a move to Southern California to be much better in this regard (it most certainly is.) After O-Cab went from Boston to Anaheim Manny voiced publicly how interested he would be in going to the West Coast and the lack of media scrutiny seemed to be reason #1.

I’m with you, none of this bothers me at all.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he loves the love.

by Salty on Feb 23, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t confuse realism with lack of heart. When you can see the end of your career looming like a harvest moon rising on the horizon, you get plenty realistic. I certainly didn’t get a “I’ve accomplished everything I want, so this is whatever” sense from the sum of all the comments of his that I read today.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay

I’ll gladly trade for a guy with heart, provided he also OPSs north of .900.

by prosellis on Feb 22, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe we can get a gamer…

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I was thinking of picking up a scrappy guy. Maybe a guy with ice water in his veins;)

by keithc13 on Feb 22, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I love TBLA

I frequent other blogs (on this platform no less) where 15-20 times a day players are criticized for not being a leader, not being a winner whilst others are complimented for being true professionals, guys who play the game the right way and so on. Also, people at other blogs can look into players eyes and see that they will never win a championship. Its fascinating and maddening all at once.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's his quote,

Not really. I’ve accomplished everything I want to accomplish in this game," he said. “All this is extra.”

after reading that, that’s what I gained from his words. He can go now if he wants. Send him to Oakland.

by Skunkburner on Feb 22, 2010 11:43 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

And then what?

Assuming we got a prospect back for Ramirez, who starts in Manny’s spot? Giles? Johnson? Even if Manny were unhappy (which I don’t believe to be the case) what difference does it make? An unhappy Manny is still a much better baseball player then the alternatives in house.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously doubt he is ready to be done. I see him as DH for Cleveland.

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 22, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Talk is nice

Let’s see how he hits
Manny can play as long as he wants, as long as he can hit.

by 68elcamino427 on Feb 22, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha.

You know, you’ll be pretty angry when the trade happens and the prospects the Dodgers send over are Martin and Withrow.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right, but that’s why I’m hoping the Yanks help us out prospect-wise. The Rays need some catching prospects, so Austin Romine might work in this scenario.

Not sure what we’d have to give up, but I’d draw the line at Withrow/Martin, obviously. As good as Crawford is, no team will give up their top 2 pitching prospects for him.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

For two months of Crawford, I should say.

And maybe “no team” is a little off-base if we’re talking about crappy farm systems, but you know what I mean.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait

this is the last year of Craford’s deal?

Then why would we do this trade? If its just to get rid of Manny, the 2 prospects they get are Leach and Link.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If Ned makes a deadline-deal with the Rays, isn’t it more likely to be Lambo for Soriano? ;)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t the Yankees need their catching prospects? Unless they know Mauer isn’t signing with the Twins.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

They have two pretty good prospects at catcher. If they are desperate enough to trade for Manny, I think you could push for one of them. Probably not Montero, but its not like teams aren’t willing to trade highly touted catching prospects for older guys in the final year of their contract.

by prosellis on Feb 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

its not like teams aren’t willing to trade highly touted catching prospects for older guys in the final year of their contract.

Who are you trying to goad here? :)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be more appropriate if you would’ve said Lindblom and Withrow.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhh! You’re giving Colletti ideas <.< >.>

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I was kidding about a trade. Nobody wants his $20m salary.

by Skunkburner on Feb 22, 2010 12:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Dodgers will just wind up eating most, if not all, of it.

by prosellis on Feb 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, you are really taking things out of context. In the same article (the Fletcher/AOL piece), it is also noted a few paragraphs earlier that Manny did extra work this winter to get ready for the season. Does that sound like someone who doesn’t care to you?

In the Jackson article, Manny is quoted as saying he wants to enjoy himself this season. It sounds to me like he is just content right now, and has come to terms with the fact that this is his last year in LA.

Manny is just a quirky dude. In the 2007 ALCS, the Sox were down 3-1 to the Indians and Manny said this:

“Why should we panic?” he said Wednesday in a rare clubhouse interview. “We’ve got a great team.”

And then, this: “It doesn’t happen, so who cares? There’s always next year. It’s not like it’s the end of the world.”

The Red Sox won the next 7 games, and the WS. Manny’s a carefree dude, who when on the field is very, very good.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

And what was the question?

Gurnick only paraphrases:

And he said he doesn’t have anything to prove despite the way last season went.
I’m guessing the question was something like “do you feel you have anything to prove [to the fans? to yourself? to your teammates?] after everything that happened last year?” He’s simply acknowledging that he’s already had a long, full career.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

That was my point chief

Ok ok ok we have known this for so long. WE remember. My point is that now this is a story and will continue to be until he is finally gone. He was a bad signing. Except for his play to end the season after being traded he has been a distraction. You already knew that he doesn’t care about anything but himself, he felt that he should remind you. What a slap in the face of his teammates. I don’t really care about next year. I’m ready for THIS year.

by Anaheim71420 on Feb 22, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Was he a distraction last season before the suspension, when he was hitting .348/.492/.641 and the team was 21-8?

A slap in the face of his teammates? C’mon. Get a grip on reality.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I guarantee he is ready for this year too. Bad signing? I guess you loved the 90’s and being swept out in the divisional series.

by delias man on Feb 22, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

He still managed to hit: .290 / .418 / .531 / .949 / 155 OPS+ last season. His teammates were so distracted that they played well in his absence and the team as a whole won the division and the first playoff series.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

And that doesn’t sound terrible to you??

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think his teammates care. They know who Manny is and what he brings to the team. This is just going to be dust in the wind.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny, by all accounts, has been a great teammate with the Dodgers

he’ll always rub some people the wrong way with the way he carries himself, like when he took a shower before the end of Game 4 last year in the NLCS. His detractors say, “Ah ha- see? He doesn’t care about anyone but himself!” But those closest to him, at least in baseball terms, have no problem with it. He received glowing reviews when he came over in ’08, not just for his (enhanced?) performance, but for the way he loosened up a clubhouse that seriously needed loosening up. That is the positive aspect of “Manny being Manny”, and as far as his team goes, that seems to far outweigh the negative.

by sarcastro9 on Feb 22, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He was a bad signing.

Yeah! I totally thought seeing the Dodgers in the NLCS for the last two years sucked! I’d much rather be a Pittsburgh Pirates fan!

//sarcasim

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 22, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Point

getting a guy who has given us our best shot at winning it all in over 20 years is definitely worth it. 2 years ago the Dodgers were hovering around .500 and got a player to help them realistically contend.

No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.

by S Jay Bruin on Feb 22, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I should not listen, or disect everything that comes out of his mouth, and just enjoy the game. Sounds like the best idea.

by Skunkburner on Feb 22, 2010 12:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Save the dissection for what comes out of Colletti’s mouth. What he’s thinking really does matter.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummm... Ok. Newsflash Not.

Dearest Manny, Thanks for the words of wisdom. An entire sport leaning on your every word. Now I can see why we put down 20 Million. (slight cough disguising other words). You always give more than you take. By the way, I sat in your Mannywood last year and vowed(even though we won) to never sit there again. You didn’t even play that day! I guess since it was Manny Bobblehead Day#2 you were waiting for the next Grandslam momment. Probably because it was 94 degrees and you would have melted a bit. You are the most expensive piece of wax we have. I don’t even know what that means.

Would it kill you to say something that connects you to fans and their expectations? I mean how about “I’ve been working hard this offseason and were going to do our best to get back to the postseason and get over the hump!” Why can’t you just pay someone to speak for you? Pretend you forgot how to speak english and get an interpreter like Kuroda has who can take your $2 responses and provide something in English for your fans to hold on to. Heck, I’ll do it for a cool million. I’ll answer all your media questions with Tommy-like answers. “This is the greatest organization in the world!” “I can’t wait to begin our journey to the postseason.” “I’m looking forward to a great year in Dodger blue!”

Manny, Please just go back to your speak of your post-suspension and say, “I’m not going to talk about the past or future.” And give me a call if you’d like assistance in responding to the media in a way that seems like you’re worth 20 million. Oh, and let’s see you play like you’re worth that much plus a little more- you know, something for us to remember you by. By the way, can you sign this for me? Go Dodgers!

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

You really should read all the articles

It’s not like Manny held a press conference to announce his feelings. Reporters surrounded his locker, and he answered their questions.

He did say he worked hard this offseason, and that the Dodgers changed his workout program.

He did say he loved playing in LA

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t it easier to blow things out of proportion by not reading the articles? We can all be so damn Plaschke-esque when we do that!

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d much rather listen to a player who says what’s on his mind, even if I didn’t like the words, than to have a player just spout cliches anyway.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I know I just couldn’t stop once I started! It was an attempt at humor. The part about getting an interpreter made me laugh to myself!

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Cliches are probably my least favorite part about following baseball. That’s why I liked Randy Wolf; he was honest and up front about his performances.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed but don’t you think, at the beginning of spring training, he’d know we don’t want to hear about his leaving already? I didn’t say I’d come up with more Cliches for a million. I can think of original thoughts for that kind of money!

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

However

I should clarify…for nearly every day for eight months or so a reporter or group of reporters ask a series of rather mundane questions…it’s not anybody’s fault (each side is just doing their job), but kind of a necessary evil that goes along with the job.

I can understand why some players would get tired of answering the same stuff over and over again.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I get excited when I start answering their questions for them before I even hear their responses. If it was me, I know I’d have the same standard, audience appropriate responses for the never ending barrage of questions. Except unless the reporter was hot.

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I sure hope that son of a goat herder puts out, he is getting paid big bucks so he better produce or his LF fans will be throwing DOdger Dogs.

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 22, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

Throwing hot dogs at Manny from Mannywood? Now that will be something

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

boiled or grilled? Surely not grilled.

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Grilled Dodger Dogs are much better and tastier than the boiled ones. Certain concession stands at the stadium have boiled rather than grilled.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the All Beef Jumbo Dogs, myself.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Sausages are my link of choice, but every once in a while a Dodger Dog hits the spot.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You can get Sausage Dogs at Dodger Stadium?

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

you didn't know that Julio

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 22, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

At games I usually feast on the usual: Dodger dogs.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yah me too but once I wonder around because we got these great seats behind home plate FL

Stood in line with John Taturo, went to 4 games last year and my buddy is going to Spring training, I might go. So I guess I if I do I will give Manny a bad time.

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 22, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

you never cease to amaze me with this stuff Eric. Awesome! lol

by keithc13 on Feb 22, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

May I suggest a spot in downtown LA?

It’s actually in the Arts District. It’s called Wurstkuche. They have a solid selection of sausages. Fries there are also pretty good.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I love that place…I have been twice. I have had alligator and rabbit sausage! Awesome.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Crazy selection huh?

Scared to taste either of them, but I probably will next time… Which will be in 45 minutes.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

you guys are nuts

LA Sports is what keep me off the streets and out of trouble, thanks to all the teams Rams, Dodgers, Lakers, USC sports and the Love of Tennis.

by so.cal.native1952 on Feb 22, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wurstkuche??? Sounds like something the soldiers brought back from Germany back in WWII…but they were cured with a couple of weeks of penicillin.

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Since we’re talking sausages…try Jerry’s Dogs in OC. I know the owner and they have 4 restaurants (Santa Ana, Irvine, Ladera Ranch, La Habra). Small selection, but real good, and tons of topping choices and homemade potato chips to boot!

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The wife and I always chow down on grilled Dodger Dogs are the Stadium. It’s a tradition and a ritual. Tradition!
/Tevya pose

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

they dont seem salty to you?

by delias man on Feb 22, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I demand pork in my hot dogs. It ain’t a hot dog without pork.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Pork parts, you mean…right?

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I used to go for the Picante Dogs but the last few years they just can’t seem to get the buns right so i go for the Jumbo’s now myself.

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

New Product Idea for Mannywood. Oscar Manny Weiners

I wish I was an Oscar Manny weiner
that is truly what I’d really like to be.
’Cause if I was an Oscar Manny weiner
then everyone would be in love with me.

Funny and kind of gross at the same time. Perhaps they’d have to sell 2 for 1 to move a few.

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

I like it

a nice compliment to the AYCE RF pavilion

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Off topic

but the Chargers released LDT today.

(the real LT broke Joe Theisman’s leg)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

Calling him LT always bugged me too.

Not a huge surprise they released him I guess. Crazy how short the lifespan of RBs are these days, although I guess LDT is older than I thought.

by LA Taco on Feb 22, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry that didn’t come out right. I meant to say it’s amazing how quickly these guys can fall off, they just take such a beating. LDT actually has already had a long career compared to the average NFL player.

by LA Taco on Feb 22, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

The Padres kangaroo court made their special assistant Dave Roberts (yes, that one) eat Vegemite after he reported to camp with an old Giants equipment bag. Ha!

Link here and here

Cue Men at Work!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Did their other special assistant Mark Loretta show up with a Dodger bag? News at 11

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone been on the Dodger Stadium tour? Do they let you on the field? Or the dugouts and clubhouse?

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 1:52 PM PST reply actions  

My hunch is not the clubhouse itself, though I saw the one in Camelback

But that was as a guest of Mr. Stephen via the blogger’s tour last Spring.

The Championship Tour gives fans an opportunity to view Dodger Stadium in a way only the players do. This behind-the-scenes tour lets fans visit restricted areas and view the ballpark from a whole new perspective. Located in Chavez Ravine, Dodger Stadium is one of baseball’s most historic stadiums.

Highlights of this 80-90 minute tour may include:

     • Access to the field
     • Visit to the Dodger Dugout
     • Dugout Club
     • Press Box
     • Tommy Lasorda Training Center

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/la/ballpark/tours.jsp

by bhsportsguy on Feb 22, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It is OK. You would go one time, but not again. I would say do it.

by delias man on Feb 22, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Been on the tour. You get to go into the dugout. You get to step onto the dirt foul territory but you don’t get to step on the grass. No clubhouse access. You can only dream.
You get to go into the Dugout Club restaurant and see all the pictures, WS trophies, and a lot of other really cool Dodger stuff(home plate from Ebbits field). It’s worth the few dollars to do it. I’ve got a few pictures of my family in the dugout calling the bullpen or standing at the steps pretending to manage like Torre.

by RawhideBlue on Feb 22, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny gone 2011

I certainly wont lose any sleep over it! But this makes trading Pierre even more STUPID!
Let’s see what he does in 2010. I am sure the DODGERS will find some washed up retread to take his place for $400-600,000 a year!
The Dodger BLUE is turning BLACK AND BLUE!

by California Mobile CPR on Feb 22, 2010 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

Pierre hasn’t been a good full-time player since 2004.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

you are killing me!!

by delias man on Feb 22, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Who wants Pierre in 2011? I’ll take my chances with a free agent signing or Xavier Paul.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked jon wesiman's tweet on Manny

http://twitter.com/dodgerthoughts/status/9492607334

Am I correct that the people upset with Manny for saying he won’t be a Dodger in 2011 already didn’t want him to be a Dodger in 2011?

by LA Taco on Feb 22, 2010 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

he could have just as easily said that they

Did not want Manny in 2010. So many (I want to say idiots) think that JP was and still should be the answer in left.

by MammothDodger on Feb 22, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200807093104241

If anyone wants to put a smile on their face, this will help :)

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

By the way, want to hear something funny

If you remember I was asking what I should do about my trip to Phoenix early next month for a Ducks-Coyotes game with my girlfriend, and how my sister wouldn’t let me borrow her car. I ended up asking my GF’s parents if we could take their PT Cruiser and they were ok with it. Well last night I was driving on the 405 Northbound to Ventura County almost at the 10 freeway and my car engine ends up completely dying…so I might not even be able to make it their to take the car I’ve been stressing about finding for the last 2 weeks for the trip.

Well that and I’m kinda screwed without my car.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

So that was you I was reading about on sigalert.com.

Bummer man.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol, are you serious?

But yeah, it was about 1-1:30 AM that I was just sitting there waiting for the tow truck, hoping and thinking that it was the battery and not the engine. My youthful optimism got the better of me!

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

1 A.M.? No, I was dreaming of Matt Kemp home runs by that time. Would have been interesting if the one I saw much earlier was you though.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha. I am sitting here going through mlb.com clips, first one of Kemp, then a bunch of Ethier’s homeruns (uppercut home run swing, still very beautiful as most left-handed homerun swings are), but now I’m going through Kemp’s videos and man are they breath-taking :D Every time he pulls a homerun or hits one to straight away center that swing just looks monsterous! How has he not hit 35 homeruns yet? Oh, that’s this year :)

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Jalen Rose (who is normally pretty good, at least regarding basketball) just noted on ESPN 710 that Manny was wrong with his statement today, noting that “Kevin Ethier” and others didn’t need to be answering questions about this.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

My name is Kevin and I have an Ethier jersey….

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 22, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jalen Rose was talking about you on ESPN 710!

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I am always dubious of former pro athletes being critical

of quotes by current players. Jalen should know that Hernandez could have just asked Manny what he saw for himself this year and Manny gave him in answer. By reading the whole article, Manny’s comments don’t seem out of place.

And anyone who calls Ethier Kevin needs to read a roster or two before commenting on how the Dodger players feel about this issue.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I can’t wait to hear actual audio of Manny, if it exists.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially when it’s a pro athlete from another sport!

by KellyStephen on Feb 22, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

re: Radio

I am still blown away that Petros Papadakis is a radio personality. The man’s voice is like somebody running their nails down a chalkboard. And its not like its some 1 off thing where he has 1 radio show and that’s it. The man has made a career out of doing voice over work. How is this possible? He has a brutal barry’s ticket dot com commercial where he screams the name Barry into the microphone about 50 times, he also calls football games on FSN and he is the live announcer for USC basketball games. How can several different media outlets think this is a good idea?

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to High School with him, and I am amazed he has lasted this long.

by robotmadeofnails on Feb 22, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes sense. You’re the robot made of nails, he’s the vocal chords made of nails.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree that commercial is down right F-ing annoying, but Petros is entertaining. He may not blow you away with his sports knowledge but some of the stuff he and Money talk on the radio is enjoyable.

But without Money, that show would just be another station on AM radio…

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

what are some options for next year to replace him at LF??

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Feb 22, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Kyle Russell will hit 47 homeruns in the minors and take over at the start of 2011.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

If Russell ever makes the majors, it better be in RF, with Ethier moving over to left.

Maybe Lambo moves up the charts and is ready. Maybe XPaul (again in RF, with Ethier in LF) is a one-year option. Maybe Ned signs Carl Crawford. Maybe he signs Eric Byrnes.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Feb 22, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you’re joking about the last part…please be joking, lol.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The options are to sit back, relax and enjoy ~200 games (spring training, reg season, playoffs) or so before thinking about it

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ethier 2010 Preview clip

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7151531

“not only did the Dodger’s first baseman finish with…”

Seriously? I didn’t realize Ethier played first for the Dodgers last season. I wonder where good old Loney was during this.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

There are some who would hope

that the video is a prediction of the near future. I am not one of those people.

by bhsportsguy on Feb 22, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The same idiot said Billingsley was selected but didn’t pitch in the 2009 All-Star Game.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he meant to say he was selected, but didn’t pitch in the 2009 NLDS :)

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

You know, if Ethier was a Yankee, he’d be shoved religiously down people’s throats from the likes of ESPN. You know what, fine, I’m glad we’ve got our team out of the spot light (minus Manny), it makes for less distractions.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Manny & Torre seem to demand much of the attention

But the core young guys are going to be the key going forward. Kemp, Ethier, & Kershaw have what it takes to be special players for a long time IMO.

No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.

by S Jay Bruin on Feb 22, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the only important thing. It does bug me that less special players get much more attention than our guys, but that might be a good thing.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok, so

Matt Kemp is clearly amazing :) I’m watching his home runs from the season and he doesn’t have an extreme pull which is so great. Most of his home runs are going to center and left center. If you compare that to Aaron Hill who literally only hit homeruns to left and left center that’s just awesome to look at.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

My favorite Kemp homer (regular season) was against Smoltz in July 2007. Absolutely CRUSHED to LF.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that at Dodger Stadium to the 2nd deck?

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it landed WAY back in the Dodger bullpen. The crack of the bat was ridiculous. A monster pull job.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite at the moment is against the Braves on Sunday Night Baseball I believe in 09 where Kemp just unloads the ball to straightaway CF and it bounces off the back wall. It gave me chills.

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a fun game. Bills was electric, with 9 Ks through five before leaving with a cramp (although it seemed like hyperextended knee). Jason Schmidt even got a PH single!

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Bills curve was unhittable that night.

by Michael White on Feb 22, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite was the one in the 8th inning at home to take the lead over the Astros. That made the score 4-3, which ended as the final. It was a bomb off the bat, and I was very excited but didn’t say a peep in the press box. I was almost shaking (as was Dodger Stadium; it got real loud). I did do an involuntary fist pump. :)

Kemp scored all four Dodger runs that day.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

that was my favorite homerun call of the year by Charlie Steiner

sometimes he gets so excited that he stumbles and stammers his way through, but he captured that one perfectly.

by sarcastro9 on Feb 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

nice- thanks!

That’ll be my go-to clip any time things go wrong this season when I need a pick-me-up….which hopefully, won’t be all that often!

by sarcastro9 on Feb 22, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that game. HE WON IT SINGLE-HANDED! Lol. That was seriously amazing though.

Are you not allowed to show any emotion in the box?

by Ivdown on Feb 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No cheering in the press box. I try to mask my cheers through audible non-denominational outbursts, such as “wow.”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no way I’d be able to sit through a game in the press box. Not that it wouldn’t be cool, but I just need to scream shit during every Dodger game. It’s just part of who I am.

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here

It could be pretty agonizing to watch your favorite player just bomb one and your fellow fans cheering as they take the lead and all you have to do is show no emotion, but your mind is going insane.

by Julio Nievas on Feb 22, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

the one he hit vs the cubs is my fave

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;ylt=AmAc6FrZkmLbkMOkMEP1fKFCLcF?gid=290822119
it went beyond the bullpen i think…

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Feb 22, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

From OldHossRadbourn via Twitter:
M. Ramírez says this will be his last year as a Dodger. A man can only spend so much time in a park that lacks an outhouse in the outfield.

by sarcastro9 on Feb 22, 2010 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

He is a must follow on Twitter.

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The most important word in that link was “Longshot”

by Eric Stephen on Feb 22, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You know I get caught up in sensationalism sometimes…

by silverwidow on Feb 22, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

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SP 44
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