2010 Player Profile: Jamey Carroll, the Multi-Year Man
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:30 AM PST
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Jamey Carroll can be a useful player off the bench, with his ability to hold his own defensively at both second and third, and also has mixed in some time here and there at shortstop and the corner outfield spots. In a pinch, that kind of versatility is an asset. Throw in the fact that he has posted on-base percentages of .355 in each of the past two years and you have a good player on your hands.
The curious part of signing Carroll was that he got a two-year contract (albeit at a relatively modest $3.85 million guaranteed) when so many middle infielders signed one-year pacts this offseason, including Orlando Hudson, Felipe Lopez, Orlando Cabrera, Alex Gonzalez, and our own Ronnie Belliard, to name a few.
As I wrote back in December, I like Jamey Carroll, but he reminds me of a signing last winter:
Still, I can't shake the feeling that if you squint hard enough, Carroll looks an awful lot like Mark Loretta, signed by the Dodgers last season:
Player Years Ages BA/OBP/SLG OPS+ Jamey Carroll 2008-09 34-35 .276/.355/.343 89 Mark Loretta 2007-08 .35-36 .284/.352/.376 91
Loretta, you may remember, struggled to the tune of .232/.309/.276 last season (but had a great final act). Carroll figures to see time backing up second and third base, and perhaps even shortstop, which would alleviate the need to carry a designated (no-hit) backup shortstop.
Fun Stat
Carroll is one of two active major leaguers with a career OBP of .350 or higher and a slugging percentage lower than his OBP (minimum 1,000 PA), along with Luis Castillo
Contract Status
Under contract through 2011:
2010: $1.35 million
2011: $2.5 million
Carroll can earn up to $525,000 annually in incentives based on plate appearances from 275 to 550.
2010 Outlook
| Year | Age | PA | BB% | Runs | RBI | BA | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
| 2006 | 32 | 534 | 10.5% | 84 | 36 | .300 | .377 | .404 | .339 |
| 2007 | 33 | 268 | 10.4% | 45 | 22 | .225 | .317 | .300 | .284 |
| 2008 | 34 | 402 | 8.5% | 60 | 36 | .277 | .355 | .346 | .319 |
| 2009 | 35 | 358 | 10.1% | 53 | 26 | .276 | .355 | .340 | .317 |
| 2010 Projections - Age 36 Season | |||||||||
| Bill James | 250 | 9.6% | 36 | 18 | .261 | .343 | .323 | .298 | |
| CHONE | 349 | 10.6% | 53 | 26 | .250 | .338 | .334 | .306 | |
| Marcel | 419 | 9.3% | 59 | 36 | .259 | .337 | .346 | .309 | |
| Baseball HQ | 374 | 9.6% | 52 | 27 | .250 | .323 | .313 | ||
| ZiPS | 328 | 8.8% | 48 | 29 | .261 | .332 | .334 | ||
Thanks to Fangraphs for much of the data. Carroll is projected to have a drop off after back-to-back years with a .355 on-base percentage, which is understandable since most projection systems aren't kind to players entering their age 36 season (just ask Casey Blake). However, Carroll's predicted OPS, or prOPS (available at The Hardball Times) , the last two years was better than his actual OPS (.293/.369/.379 in 2008, .279/.356/.371 in 2009). For 2010, I expect something near that range from Carroll. I'll guess .281/.358/.372, with 26 starts at second base.
What are your predictions for Jamey Carroll (BA/OBP/SLG)? Be sure to also guess the number of starts at second base for Carroll, too.
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first start of the spring (in an A game) for DeJesus
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
DeJesus started at SS in the B game Monday morning
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Fun stat of the day
1B Todd Frazier is batting 9th today for Reds. The only Red 1B to bat 9th in regular season since 1954 was Sean Casey on 6/24/98
Insert caveat about pitchers hitting 9th here
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly
I was about to say, for 40 of those years there was no interleague play.
by Michael White on Mar 12, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
They have only had a 1B bat 8th 69 times in 56 years.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
We are going to tease it like radio
He’s coming up next…
(so you will keep tuning in)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve already written it and I’ll be out of town when it is scheduled to publish so I won’t be able to defend my projection of him having an OPS of .730.
by Michael White on Mar 12, 2010 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
That OPS projection is a joke. Or isn’t it? Tune in next to find out!
by Michael White on Mar 12, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
Has anyone ever told you how great iphones are? Not only an you easily post on TBLA, you can play Alpine Crawler and Sunday Lawn!
But the real question is
How does is the Twitter app on IPhone?
by Michael White on Mar 12, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Donut games are fun. Jailbreak it and you can listen to the game and play at the same time.
by Skunkburner on Mar 12, 2010 9:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Evil…Yes. But I’ve had mine jailbroken fo over a year and it’s problem free. It’s the only way to own a iPhone. Complete control over your smart phone.
by Skunkburner on Mar 12, 2010 10:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
To me the big upside is that if you jailbreak the iPhone you can tether it to a laptop and use the 3G network to connect to the internet.
Jailbreak?
I have no idea what you guys are talking about….
by Michael White on Mar 12, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
To jsilbreak is to by pass the apple firmware to be able to use 3rd party apps.
You can customize the phone’s tones, pictures. Add third party apps. I have a video cam for my 3g. It’s not avail on the 3g. I have my kids as my wallpaper at all times. I can design my own icons for purchased apps. Or use someone elses design.You canchange the font of the phone. I’m using the simpsons font. Apple warns about void warranty or bricking the phone. Judy plug it in to iTunes and do a complete restore. The genius bar will never know. If you really want, you can also find cracked apps for free.
by Skunkburner on Mar 12, 2010 1:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wen_JK -the DT commenter in Taiwan has posted some links to youtube clips from the Taiwan game. This one is Loney taking a LHP to the track, but the RF makes a play that Ethier probably can’t make ;).
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Doesn't matter what country he's in...
Typical Loney and his warning track power.
Found this on GA (for Underdog)
from Tony Jackson’s notes column last night:
Garret Anderson will make his first Cactus League appearance for the Dodgers on Sunday against Texas. It isn’t clear whether he will play first base, where he has been taking ground balls for the first time in his major league career, but he won’t be a designated hitter. “We asked him about DHing, but he said he would rather get on the field,” said Dodgers hitting coach Don Mattingly, who is managing the team while Joe Torre is in Taiwan with a split squad.
I don’t know what to guess. Waiting for next week for the annoucement of the starter. I hope Dewitt gets the job. Why can’t we just find a starting core and roll with that. Maybe this is the year.
by Skunkburner on Mar 12, 2010 9:47 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Carroll won’t be the starter either way though…it’s pretty much DeWitt or Belliard.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
I expect something close to a strict platoon. Torre will not resist the temptation to start Roly-Poly against LHP, which is not a bad idea. Belliard has a career .829 OPS against LHP.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Doubled salary
What would the business reason be for giving Carroll nearly twice the salary in his second year as in his first? (2.35 mil vs. 1.25 mil) It’s not as if he’s a young player under team control entering arbitration years; he’s a vet. Usually the Dodgers have no compunction about stating if some money is deferred to a later year, so it shouldn’t be that. (I.e. if they wanted to pay him 1.8 mil each year and defer 550,000 from the first year, they’d just say so.) Is there some sort of team “out” after the first year? Surely not, or they’d refer to it as a one-year contract with a team option for a second year. It just seems odd to me that you’d give an aging vet 1 mil more the second year of a two-year contract. So it just looks like some sort of built-in deferring of what the real 2010 salary would b e into 2011. Is there perhaps a real deferment of some of his 2011 salary of 2.5 mil to later years? Than it would make more sense to me.
Need flexibility for this season…worry about next season next season
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. “Flexibility” = don’t have even a measly $550,000 or so to spare to make the two years balance? That seems very penny-pinching. “worry about next season next season” = add more debt since that’s “doing thing the Dodger way” (McCourt way), 21st-century-style.
Yeah, I don’t necessarily agree with the strategy, but that’s clearly the case here.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure why it is such a big deal that the two years’ salaries have to balance.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Just seems pathetic
that they would need to defer such a tiny contract.
by meercatjohn on Mar 12, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
If you click on the link in the post, it has the full details of Carroll’s contract:
$1 million signing bonus ($300k paid this year, $700k deferred to 2011 — $300k in January, $400k in December)
2010: $1.05 million salary
2011: $1.8 million salary
There is no option
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
Let’s assume for a moment McCourt has the money to afford all of contract right now. Unless there is deflation, it is better to pay as much of that money as late as possible, with the theory being that you could invest the money now, earn whatever interest, and pay it later, while keeping the interest.
The flip side, and the only way this ever becomes anything to get our panties in a twist, is that if we are operating at or near the margins of the budget, the excess salary in 2011 would prevent perhaps another move.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Quote from Torre on Stults
from Ken Gurnick’s article on the Taiwan game:
“I was happy with the way Stults pitched,” said Torre. “To me, it’s more about him doing what he has to do. He was aggressive, with one bad at-bat, getting ahead 0-2 and walking the guy. But he mixed pitches well and located well. He has the stuff. Now he has to maintain a confident approach.”Stults took a page from Kim Ng’s book:
“For me, it’s all about strike one and getting ahead in the count and I did that,” said Stults. “I got my pitch count extended. I’m happy with it.”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
They might do it. :)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 12, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Dodger Pitchers
Today
Clayton Kershaw, Carlos Monasterios, Jonathan Broxton, George Sherrill, and Luis Ayala
Tomorrow (in Tucson, vs AZ)
Chad Billingsley, Scott Elbert, Eric Gagne, Justin Miller, and Brent Leach
The kids must love it when
the Dodgers do these trips. I don’t remember them getting so much playing time when they went to China.
by meercatjohn on Mar 12, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
From today's game notes, RE: Rule 5
Since 1981, the Dodgers have selected 11 players in the Rule 5 draft and only three players have made the Opening Day roster, including D.J. Houlton, who remained with the club for the entire 2005 season. Both Frank Lankford (1998) and Jose Antonio Nuñez (2001) were offered back to their original clubs before the All-Star break.
Lankford made it back to his original team (the Yankees), but Nuñez, a LHP, didn’t clear waivers because the Padres claimed him. He stuck there the rest of the year, but not much longer.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I still remember Terry Adams bitching about the Dodgers using Nuñez that year
by Eric Stephen on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
From the game notes
Love this stat, but even though I love puns this is a little much for me:
KERSH-AWESOME: In 2009, Clayton Kershaw ranked fifth in the National League with a 2.79 ERA and first in the league with a 1.83 ERA at home. The 21-year-old joins Ralph Branca (1947), Don Drysdale (1956), Fernando Valenzuela (1981, ’82) and Don Sutton (1966) as the only pitchers in Dodger franchise history since 1901 to appear in the Top-10 in ERA when they were 21 years old or younger. The left-handed Texan led the Major Leagues by limiting hitters to a .200 average and a .282 slugging percentage
For anyone who listens to ESPN 710 online
when the “I Contact” commercial comes on (all the time, BTW) do you find yourself checking Oulook when the “new email” sound plays in the commercial?
Don’t listen, but that reminded me that the cash registers at the 99¢ store used to play the “new message” sound used by ICQ, which made my mouse hand twitch. Been quite awhile since I thought about ICQ.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 12, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
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