2010 Player Profile: Andre Ethier- It's a walkoff
2009 was a breakout year for Andre Ethier, right? Actually, no. I approached this profile with the opinion that Ethier's 2009 season was the best of his career (and I assumed it was by a large margin) but then I checked his stats and found that's not quite the case at all. As for my perception of him having his best year as a pro, he certainly did when it comes to counting stats. He had career bests in home runs, runs and RBI's. Plus he racked up some accolades with the voters, finishing 6th in the MVP voting and coming away with a silver slugger award. Plus there were those 6 walk off hits during the year, which earned Ethier a Clutch Performer of the Year Award. As for the rate stats, Ethier actually posted better numbers in 2008. 2009 saw a dip in Ethier's batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage and wOBA compared to the prior year. Not that I'm complaining. The numbers Ethier posted in 2009, while slightly lower than 2008, are still excellent. This exercise actually serves to frustrate me more with the Dodgers and their insistence of blocking Ethier with mediocre to bad veterans in the past. The only thing that kept Andre from hitting 30+ home runs in 2008 was plate appearances; fortunately for Dodger fans that no longer appears to be a problem.
Despite Ethier's excellent year at the plate, it's not to suggest that Ethier's game is without flaws. Defensive metrics such as UZR grade Ethier rather poorly. Ethier appears to have a solid throwing arm in RF, however his range is lacking as his UZR was -16.2 which was good for 16th out of 19 right fielders who qualify . Additionally, Ethier still struggles against left handed pitching, as Ethier had a batting line of .302/.390/.571 against RHP but only a line of .194/.283/.345 against LHP. I'm pretty sure Jamie Hoffmann, Xavier Paul or Jason Repko can give you that, and those guys are all considered better defensive outfielders. Despite his struggles against left handed pitching, the Dodgers did not bring in a platoon partner for Andre in the offseason, so Ethier will have to improve when facing left handed opponents as Torre has no other options (assuming the in-house options are not utilized) when facing "tough lefties."
| Year | Age | 2B | HR | Runs | RBI | BA | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
| 2006 | 24 | 20 | 11 | 50 | 55 | .308 | .365 | .474 | .357 |
| 2007 | 25 | 32 | 13 | 50 | 64 | .284 | .350 | .452 | .336 |
| 2008 | 26 | 38 | 20 | 90 | 77 | .305 | .375 | .510 | .382 |
| 2009 | 27 | 42 | 31 | 92 | 106 | .272 | .361 | .508 | .370 |
| 2010 Projections - Age 28 Season | |||||||||
| Bill James | 39 | 24 | 85 | 89 | .288 | .368 | .500 | .372 | |
| CHONE | 34 | 21 | 72 | 79 | .281 | .356 | .488 | .365 | |
| Marcel | 36 | 22 | 79 | 83 | .283 | .361 | .488 | .363 | |
| Baseball HQ | 40 | 30 | 88 | 103 | .285 | .357 | .521 | ||
2010 Outlook
Despite my nitpicking above, I do believe Andre Ethier is a legitimate star in the league. I'm not terribly concerned with his range is right field, considering his outfield partner Matt Kemp has excellent range to cover for his teammate. I'm a little bit more concerned with Ethier's struggles against LHP, and absent improvement in this area, opposing teams will make sure that Ethier has a difficult time getting any walk offs this year as he will face a LOOGY whenever possible. No matter what, I expect Joe Torre to ride Ethier hard. As I said during the Manny Ramirez preview, Torre will be hard pressed to give any of his 3 star outfielder much of a rest this season. Consider that other than the outfield, the other traditional power hitting positions of first base, catcher and third base are occupied with two guys who slugged .399 and .329 last season and a guy entering his age 36 season. It's one thing to hope Russell Martin and James Loney find their power stroke next season, but Torre will rely upon Andre Ethier to supply the power on a daily basis. After all, Ethier has had a slugging percentage of greater than .500 the past two seasons, and I see no reason to believe that he can't perform at that level again in his age 28 season. Ethier is in his prime, and I expect big things this season.
.285 / .360 / .515 in 615 plate appearances.
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From Gurnick's Taiwan game recap
Torre tempered his hopes that Lindblom would make the team:
“I learned not to get excited about guys not on the roster,” Torre said of the 22-year-old. “He’s a longshot.”
Torre seems to be distancing himself too. Playing good cop / bad cap, letting Lindblom know he still has a guy in his corner.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 7:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Splits
Didn’t Phil crunch some numbers showing that Dre has Loneyitis against lefties. Or was it the other way around?
Eric (by way of Baseball Reference) broke it down
94 PA vs. LHP on the road (2009)
.084/.191/.084 – seven singles, no extra-base hits
93 PA vs, LHP at home
.305 /.376/ .610 – 13 extra-base hits, 6 home runs
Alert silverwidow
Minor leaguers suiting up today:
Pitchers:
83 Tim Corcoran, RHP
89 Chris Withrow, RHP
95 Ethan Martin, RHP
Catchers:
90 Ryan Arp
90 Gorman Erickson (S)
Infielders:
69 Christian Lara (S)
94 Cesar Suarez
96 Steve Caseres (L)
97 Pedro Baez
Outfielders:
84 Timo Perez (L)
91 Andrew Lambo (L)
92 Brian Cavazos-Galvez
93 Preston Mattingly
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Are you SERIOUS?
Now I’ve got to put this on DVD.
Unbelievable news. I remember Kershaw shocking the world on a Sunday morning two Springs ago. Could be Déjà vu.
Just remember, just because they are suiting up doesn’t mean they will pitch. They might of course, but someone would have to struggle and not complete their allotted inning(s).
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully Weaver isn’t allowed to go 3 innings.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
On second thought, I should never compare this to Kershaw’s coming out party. First off, the hype isn’t anything close for Withrow (or Martin), and even if there’s a cool “moment” with them on the mound, boring ass announcers Steiner and Monday won’t do it justice.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Love the profile
But disagree 100% with this statement:
The only thing that kept Andre from hitting 30+ home runs in 2008 was plate appearances
He hit all of 20 home runs in 2008. How many more PA so you think he would have needed to increase that by 50%?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I mean, Ethier had 596 PA in 2008. Sure, he could have played more (he had 131 starts), but just not enough to crank out 10 more homers.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with your disagreement. Just to bolster your argument, Ethier’s counting stat ratios improved dramatically from 2008 to 2009.
HR/AB
2008 — 26.3
2009 — 19.2
RBI/AB
2008 — 6.8
2009 — 5.6
Meaning, Ethier would’ve had to have 789 at-bats—not PAs—to hit 30 homeruns at his 2008 rate. (Or 721 at-bats in 2008 to match his 106 RBIs in 2009, for that matter.)
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From Tony Jackson
RT @dodgerscribe: Felix, Gutierrez, Barton reassinged to minor league camp. Jansen optioned
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I believe major league camps is down to 61 now.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Rangers lineup
per Richard Durrett (ESPN):
CF Julio Borbon
SS Elvis Andrus
LF David Murphy
RF Nelson Cruz
1B Chris Davis
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
2B Joaquin Arias
3B Esteban German
LHP Derek Holland
Updated lineup
Borbon 8
Andrus 6
Murphy 7
Cruz 9
Davis 3
Saltalamacchia 2
Ramirez DH
Arias 4
German 5
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking forward to seeing Andrus
here is glove is amazing. Wanted to Vlady and Hamilton. Oh well hoping WIthrow makes an appearance and does us proud.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Mar 14, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Walking Salty?
I kept watch during the three interleague games the Dodgers had with the Rangers last season, while we still had Pierre on the team, for an opportunity to note that we were “walking Salty”, but it never happened. I should have been more attentive to AL West play – I’m sure it must have happened sometime. Maybe today – though the incentive is gone. Maybe sometime when the White Sox play the Rangers, it will happen.
Dodger lineup
Furcal 6
DeWitt 4
Ethier 9
Kemp 8
Anderson DH
Blake 5
Johnson 7
Mientkiewicz 3
Ausmus 2
Kuroda RHP
So much for GA playing the field today
Out of 43 LH hitting players with 150 PA in 2009
Ethier’s .629 OPS put him 40th. One prominent Philly was 35th, yet I doubt you will see anyone suggest he should take a few games off againts LHP.
Good profile
Honest in all respects. I still expect great things from him this year and agree mprovement vs. lefties would obviously help matters greatly. Any chance Torre will also use Johnson to spell Ethier at times (not just for Manny)?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Other players from minor league camp that traveled to Tempe yesterday but didn’t make it into the game were P Jesus Rodriguez, C Esteban Lopez, and C Alex Garabedian
Where do you get the minor league information from, regarding which minor league players are suiting up and such?
by Brandon Lennox on Mar 14, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
From the Dodgers…the game notes usually list some, but they also put out a full roster of players that day, especially travel rosters.
Yesterday, I guess the Dodgers email server went down and I didn’t get anything before the game, but knew (from Dylan Hernandez’s tweet) that the travel roster was light on major leaguers. So I emailed and asked for the minor leaguers travel roster, but got it this morning (along with today’s list). :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Delywn Young
with his 3rd home run this spring, nine runs batted in. Playing mostly 2nd base, turned a nice DP and then hit a home run in his next at bat. Good for him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Starting to shorten things up a bit
Tomorrow, the only scheduled pitchers listed for the Dodgers are Padilla, Ramon Ortiz, and Luis Ayala. I think the plan is for the starting candidates to start ramping it up to 4 innings with their 3rd outing.
Scott Kazmir starts for the Angels.
Ayala looked horrible on Friday. Don’t know why he hasn’t been cut yet.
by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Neat. Let's peddle your shit here.
My prediction for Dre:
26 hrs/88 runs/94 RBI/.289 BA/.387 slug/.434 obp.
I hope I’m way off, and powers past these numbers.
by Skunkburner on Mar 15, 2010 8:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

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