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2010 Player Profile: Andre Ethier- It's a walkoff


2009 was a breakout year for Andre Ethier, right? Actually, no.  I approached this profile with the opinion that Ethier's 2009 season was the best of his career (and I assumed it was by a large margin) but then I checked his stats and found that's not quite the case at all. As for my perception of him having his best year as a pro, he certainly did when it comes to counting stats.  He had career bests in home runs, runs and RBI's. Plus he racked up some accolades with the voters, finishing 6th in the MVP voting and coming away with a silver slugger award. Plus there were those 6 walk off hits during the year, which earned Ethier a Clutch Performer of the Year Award.  As for the rate stats, Ethier actually posted better numbers in 2008. 2009 saw a dip in Ethier's batting average, on base percentage, slugging percentage and wOBA compared to the prior year.  Not that I'm complaining.  The numbers Ethier posted in 2009, while slightly lower than 2008, are still excellent.  This exercise actually serves to frustrate me more with the Dodgers and their insistence of blocking Ethier with mediocre to bad veterans in the past.  The only thing that kept Andre from hitting 30+ home runs in 2008 was plate appearances; fortunately for Dodger fans that  no longer appears to be a problem.  

Despite Ethier's excellent year at the plate, it's not to suggest that Ethier's game is without flaws.  Defensive metrics such as UZR grade Ethier rather poorly. Ethier appears to have a solid throwing arm in RF, however his range is lacking as his UZR was -16.2 which was good for 16th out of 19 right fielders who qualify .  Additionally, Ethier still struggles against left handed pitching, as Ethier had a batting line of .302/.390/.571 against RHP but only a line of .194/.283/.345 against LHP.  I'm pretty sure Jamie Hoffmann, Xavier Paul or Jason Repko can give you that, and those guys are all considered better defensive outfielders.  Despite his struggles against left handed pitching, the Dodgers did not bring in a platoon partner for Andre in the offseason, so Ethier will have to improve when facing left handed opponents as Torre has no other options (assuming the in-house options are not utilized) when facing "tough lefties." 

Year Age 2B HR Runs RBI BA OBP SLG wOBA
2006 24 20 11 50 55 .308 .365 .474 .357
2007 25 32 13 50 64 .284 .350 .452 .336
2008 26 38 20 90 77 .305 .375 .510 .382
2009 27 42 31 92 106 .272 .361 .508 .370
2010 Projections - Age 28 Season
Bill James 39 24 85 89 .288 .368 .500 .372
CHONE 34 21 72 79 .281 .356 .488 .365
Marcel 36 22 79 83 .283 .361 .488 .363
Baseball HQ 40 30 88 103 .285 .357 .521


2010 Outlook

Despite my nitpicking above, I do believe Andre Ethier is a legitimate star in the league.  I'm not terribly concerned with his range is right field, considering his outfield partner Matt Kemp has excellent range to cover for his teammate.  I'm a little bit more concerned with Ethier's struggles against LHP, and absent improvement in this area, opposing teams will make sure that Ethier has a difficult time getting any walk offs this year as he will face a LOOGY whenever possible.  No matter what, I expect Joe Torre to ride Ethier hard. As I said during the Manny Ramirez preview, Torre will be hard pressed to give any of his 3 star outfielder much of a rest this season.  Consider that other than the outfield, the other traditional power hitting positions of first base, catcher and third base are occupied with two guys who slugged .399 and .329 last season and a guy entering his age 36 season.  It's one thing to hope Russell Martin and James Loney find their power stroke next season, but Torre will rely upon Andre Ethier to supply the power on a daily basis. After all, Ethier has had a slugging percentage of greater than .500 the past two seasons, and I see no reason to believe that he can't perform at that level again in his age 28 season.  Ethier is in his prime, and I expect big things this season. 

.285 / .360 / .515 in 615 plate appearances.

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From Gurnick's Taiwan game recap

Torre tempered his hopes that Lindblom would make the team:

“I learned not to get excited about guys not on the roster,” Torre said of the 22-year-old. “He’s a longshot.”

Torre seems to be distancing himself too. Playing good cop / bad cap, letting Lindblom know he still has a guy in his corner.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 7:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Luckily, Jon Link is NOT a longshot with him being on the roster and all.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

.294/.368/.537 in 656 PA

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 7:35 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Splits

Didn’t Phil crunch some numbers showing that Dre has Loneyitis against lefties. Or was it the other way around?

by Bob Hendley on Mar 14, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions  

Eric (by way of Baseball Reference) broke it down

94 PA vs. LHP on the road (2009)

.084/.191/.084 – seven singles, no extra-base hits

93 PA vs, LHP at home

.305 /.376/ .610 – 13 extra-base hits, 6 home runs

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Alert silverwidow

Minor leaguers suiting up today:

Pitchers:
83 Tim Corcoran, RHP
89 Chris Withrow, RHP
95 Ethan Martin, RHP

Catchers:
90 Ryan Arp
90 Gorman Erickson (S)

Infielders:
69 Christian Lara (S)
94 Cesar Suarez
96 Steve Caseres (L)
97 Pedro Baez

Outfielders:
84 Timo Perez (L)
91 Andrew Lambo (L)
92 Brian Cavazos-Galvez
93 Preston Mattingly

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Are you SERIOUS?

Now I’ve got to put this on DVD.

Unbelievable news. I remember Kershaw shocking the world on a Sunday morning two Springs ago. Could be Déjà vu.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Just remember, just because they are suiting up doesn’t mean they will pitch. They might of course, but someone would have to struggle and not complete their allotted inning(s).

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hopefully Weaver isn’t allowed to go 3 innings.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

On second thought, I should never compare this to Kershaw’s coming out party. First off, the hype isn’t anything close for Withrow (or Martin), and even if there’s a cool “moment” with them on the mound, boring ass announcers Steiner and Monday won’t do it justice.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love the profile

But disagree 100% with this statement:

The only thing that kept Andre from hitting 30+ home runs in 2008 was plate appearances

He hit all of 20 home runs in 2008. How many more PA so you think he would have needed to increase that by 50%?

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I mean, Ethier had 596 PA in 2008. Sure, he could have played more (he had 131 starts), but just not enough to crank out 10 more homers.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with your disagreement. Just to bolster your argument, Ethier’s counting stat ratios improved dramatically from 2008 to 2009.

HR/AB
2008 — 26.3
2009 — 19.2

RBI/AB
2008 — 6.8
2009 — 5.6

Meaning, Ethier would’ve had to have 789 at-bats—not PAs—to hit 30 homeruns at his 2008 rate. (Or 721 at-bats in 2008 to match his 106 RBIs in 2009, for that matter.)
.

by akbash on Mar 14, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Tony Jackson

RT @dodgerscribe: Felix, Gutierrez, Barton reassinged to minor league camp. Jansen optioned

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 9:58 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I believe major league camps is down to 61 now.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers lineup

per Richard Durrett (ESPN):

CF Julio Borbon
SS Elvis Andrus
LF David Murphy
RF Nelson Cruz
1B Chris Davis
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
2B Joaquin Arias
3B Esteban German
LHP Derek Holland

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Updated lineup

Borbon 8
Andrus 6
Murphy 7
Cruz 9
Davis 3
Saltalamacchia 2
Ramirez DH
Arias 4
German 5

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to seeing Andrus

here is glove is amazing. Wanted to Vlady and Hamilton. Oh well hoping WIthrow makes an appearance and does us proud.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 14, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Walking Salty?

I kept watch during the three interleague games the Dodgers had with the Rangers last season, while we still had Pierre on the team, for an opportunity to note that we were “walking Salty”, but it never happened. I should have been more attentive to AL West play – I’m sure it must have happened sometime. Maybe today – though the incentive is gone. Maybe sometime when the White Sox play the Rangers, it will happen.

by berkowit28 on Mar 14, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodger lineup

Furcal 6
DeWitt 4
Ethier 9
Kemp 8
Anderson DH
Blake 5
Johnson 7
Mientkiewicz 3
Ausmus 2
Kuroda RHP

So much for GA playing the field today

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Out of 43 LH hitting players with 150 PA in 2009

Ethier’s .629 OPS put him 40th. One prominent Philly was 35th, yet I doubt you will see anyone suggest he should take a few games off againts LHP.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 14, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Good profile

Honest in all respects. I still expect great things from him this year and agree mprovement vs. lefties would obviously help matters greatly. Any chance Torre will also use Johnson to spell Ethier at times (not just for Manny)?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 14, 2010 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Other players from minor league camp that traveled to Tempe yesterday but didn’t make it into the game were P Jesus Rodriguez, C Esteban Lopez, and C Alex Garabedian

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Where do you get the minor league information from, regarding which minor league players are suiting up and such?

by Brandon Lennox on Mar 14, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the Dodgers…the game notes usually list some, but they also put out a full roster of players that day, especially travel rosters.

Yesterday, I guess the Dodgers email server went down and I didn’t get anything before the game, but knew (from Dylan Hernandez’s tweet) that the travel roster was light on major leaguers. So I emailed and asked for the minor leaguers travel roster, but got it this morning (along with today’s list). :)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Delywn Young

with his 3rd home run this spring, nine runs batted in. Playing mostly 2nd base, turned a nice DP and then hit a home run in his next at bat. Good for him.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 14, 2010 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Starting to shorten things up a bit

Tomorrow, the only scheduled pitchers listed for the Dodgers are Padilla, Ramon Ortiz, and Luis Ayala. I think the plan is for the starting candidates to start ramping it up to 4 innings with their 3rd outing.

Scott Kazmir starts for the Angels.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Ayala looked horrible on Friday. Don’t know why he hasn’t been cut yet.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers are expected back from Taiwan tonight at 5:45pm in Phoenix

by Eric Stephen on Mar 14, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

.279 / .369 / .510, 672 PA

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Neat. Let's peddle your shit here.

My prediction for Dre:
26 hrs/88 runs/94 RBI/.289 BA/.387 slug/.434 obp.
I hope I’m way off, and powers past these numbers.

by Skunkburner on Mar 15, 2010 8:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Did you reverse the slugging and obp numbers? Both seem low for slugging for a 26 HR season, but .387 seems way too low.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
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SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

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$114,662,432

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36
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29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

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82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
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