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Quick look at the 2007 Draft for pitchers in the first round.

Pick Player Team Position School
1 David Price Tampa Bay Devil Rays LHP Vanderbilt University
2 Mike Moustakas Kansas City Royals SS Chatsworth High School
3 Josh Vitters Chicago Cubs 3B Cypress High School
4 Daniel Moskos Pittsburgh Pirates LHP Clemson
5 Matt Wieters Baltimore Orioles C Georgia Tech
6 Ross Detwiler Washington Nationals LHP Missouri St.
7 Matthew LaPorta Milwaukee Brewers LF Florida
8 Casey Weathers Colorado Rockies RHP Vanderbilt
9 Jarrod Parker Arizona Diamondbacks RHP Norwell High School
10 Madison Bumgarner San Francisco Giants LHP South Caldwell High School (NC)
11 Phillippe Aumont Seattle Mariners RHP École secondaire du Versant
12 Matt Dominguez Florida Marlins 3B Chatsworth High School
13 Beau Mills Cleveland Indians 1B Lewis-Clark State College
14 Jason Heyward Atlanta Braves OF Henry County High School (GA)
15 Devin Mesoraco Cincinnati Reds C Punxsutawney Area High School (PA)
16 Kevin Ahrens Toronto Blue Jays[Compensation 1] SS Memorial High School (TX)
17 Blake Beavan Texas Rangers[Compensation 2] RHP Irving High School
18 Pete Kozma St. Louis Cardinals SS Owasso High School (OK)
19 Joe Savery Philadelphia Phillies LHP Rice
20 Chris Withrow Los Angeles Dodgers[Compensation 3] RHP Midland Christian High School
21 J. P. Arencibia Toronto Blue Jays C Tennessee
22 Tim Alderson San Francisco Giants[Compensation 4] RHP Horizon High School
23 Nick Schmidt San Diego Padres LHP Arkansas
24 Michael Main Texas Rangers[Compensation 5] RHP DeLand High School
25 Aaron Poreda Chicago White Sox LHP University of San Francisco
26 James Simmons Oakland Athletics RHP California-Riverside
27 Rick Porcello Detroit Tigers RHP Seton Hall Preparatory School
28 Ben Revere Minnesota Twins CF Lexington Catholic High School
29 Wendell Fairley San Francisco Giants[Compensation 6] CF George County High School (MS)
30 Andrew Brackman New York Yankees RHP N.C. State

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1. David Price - Trying to establish himself in the Rays rotation.

4. Daniel Moskos - Considered a huge overdraft, will likely be a reliever if he ever makes it.

5. Ross Detwiler - injured, had hip surgery in Feb.

8. Casey Weathers - had Tommy John surgery, looks like Rockies brought him back as a reliever.

9. Jerrod Parker - Tommy John surgery over the off season. Likely out for at least the 2010 season.

10. Madison Bumgarner - unexplained loss of velocity. Had chance to start in majors, now likely to be at triple-A to start the season.

11. Phillippe Amount - injury history, traded to Philly. Philly wants to treat him as a starter.

17.Blake Beavan - spent 2009 at A+/AA. Mediocre stats.

19. Joe Savery - Mediocre stats, looks like Philly converted him to a reliever.

20. Chris Withrow - His arm is fine and he K's people which is more you can say for most pitchers in this list.


22. Tim Alderson - loss of velocity hurt his draft stock. Just like Madison Bumgarner. Are the Giants doing something with their pitching prospects?

23. Nicholas Schmidt - Padres converted him to a reliever after injury.

24. Micheal Main - Still only 20, needs more time to develop. Mediocre season at Low-A. 

25. Aaron Anderman Poreda - traded tot he padres, likely 3 or 4 type pitcher.

26. James Simmons - at Triple-A, yet likely isn't going to be a viable major leaguer.

27. Rick Porcello - Shows why you should draft for talent instead of need. Odd how just a year later the A's later decided to go for broke and sign Yano for over $4 million, but drafted Simmons for only $1.9 million with Procello still sitting in the past 27 picks.

30. Andrew Brackman - Rumored to have tons of talent with crappy performance as a Yankees farmhand.

This wasn't meant to be in depth or anything, Just wanted to point out a couple of  things.

Even in two (or I guess 3 years now since the draft was in 2007), prospects status change tremendously (but you already knew that.) With guys like Bumgarner, Parker, and Price being touted, Procello being this draft's Kershaw (being ready at 20 and staying in the majors), and a guy like Withrow who was considered an overdraft at the time and working out for the team that drafted him.

 

Also, the Dodgers had the potential to draft both Withrow and Porcello except they chose to sign Jason Schimdt instead and give their first rounder to the Giants. *The Giants* had the opportunity to draft  Bumgarner and Porcello in the same draft with the first rounder they acquired, instead choosing Tim Alderson. The Red Sox had the opportunity to draft Procello initially... except they chose to sign Julio Lugo and thus give the Dodgers their first rounder.

Then you also had draft heavy teams like the Phillies and Mariners who decided to pass on Porcello as well. My point is that the Tigers had some serious help in getting Procello to drop to them. Just amazing.

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Porcello...

You are treating teams passing up Porcello like it was some kind of oversight, that a bunch of teams goofed. Everybody knew Porcello was the best HS arm in the draft. He only fell as far as he did because he wanted a completely ridiculous $8 million to sign, and Detroit alone was willing to give it to him (though perhaps the Yankees would have met the price if Porcello had fallen to them). I certainly didn’t expect or even want the Dodgers to pony up that kind of money for one draft pick, and I don’t have a different opinion even in hindsight. I will take Withrow at slot money over Porcello at $8 million straight out of HS. I am all for the Dodgers spending more on the draft, going over slot on some players, but $8 million for one guy is crazy.

by CanuckDodger on Mar 14, 2010 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t see it as a Withrow or Porcello decision, it was a Porcello or Schimdt decision.

And if you didn’t like Porcello at that price, they could have drafted Alnderson, or Poreda at 22.

by Tripon on Mar 14, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What was Kershaw’s bonus?

by Ivdown on Mar 15, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s less than I thought. The Dodgers definitely got a great deal.

by Ivdown on Mar 16, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

The real question is...

how did the best player in the draft fall to 14?

Yeah, I know it’s because teams didn’t have enough on Heyward, but c’mon — the Braves’ got a steal of a lifetime for $1.7M.

by silverwidow on Mar 14, 2010 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

nobody pitched to him in HS

they just walked him everytime… like albert

by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

a player

with talent like Justin Upton at 14th is downright criminal

+
under 2 million

He should be hitting rockets for the royals. but hey a least they have Hochevar

Ouch

by hirambocachica on Mar 16, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But He Wasn't the Best At The Time Of The Draft

When an Albert Pujols doesn’t get drafted till the 13th round, or a Matt Kemp doesn’t get drafted till the 6th round — or heck, a Mike Piazza doesn’t get picked till the 62nd round — not being till 14th overall is no big deal. Baseball is like that. Given a few years, or even a few months, players get better, others get worse.

by CanuckDodger on Mar 14, 2010 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think you can use Jason Schmidt as an argument

Otherwise, are you saying that no free agent signing that includes a compensation pick isn’t worth it?

by bhsportsguy on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Schmidt was a pretty unique circumstance in that the player the Dodgers wished to sign had an extensive injury history and also had an injury that affected his ability to pitch and yet still signed him anyway.

I personally don’t think they used good judgment in signing Schimdt, but this is looking at it in hindsight.

by Tripon on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s not bring up Jason Schmidt. I have to think about him every year on January 29th. He and I share the same birthday. 1-29-73. LOL

by keithc13 on Mar 15, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So somehow…it’s your fault!

by Ivdown on Mar 16, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Braves really know how to scout their region

I’d be curious to see how many good players from Georgia were not drafted by the Braves. Seems like they get all the good ones. Looks like KC whiffed again, they took the wrong High School player.

by meercatjohn on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Jonathan Broxton.

The Braves were picking four picks after the Dodgers in 2002, but they could have picked Broxton with a sandwich pick. Hard to fault the Braves though: they drafted Francoeur #1, Dan Meyer (part of the Tim Hudson trade) sandwich, and McCann (from Georgia) four picks after Broxton.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Braves picked three slots after the Dodgers in the that draft, so they didn’t have the opportunity to draft E. Martin. To top it off, they gave up their #1 to the Mets because they signed Tom Glavine (ouch!).

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you mean Zach Wheeler in the Giants org.?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many dogs does he have sleeping under his porch?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, just look for a second

The Giants could have had Heyward and one of Withrow or Porcello… thank God they didn’t pick them.. we’d be screwed :)

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 16, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

If that happened

we might have been stuck with Bumgarner and his bum arm ;)

by Ivdown on Mar 20, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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