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Joe Sheehan dissects the NL West

Long time Baseball Prospectus writer Joe Sheehan has moved onto Rotowire which I found odd because was more of a real baseball writer then a roto writer. I expect he took the gig because it pays not because he wants this as his future. Nonetheless here is Joe's take on the NL West.

http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/features/joe_sheehan.htm

Here is the link but it is behind a pay wall so I'm going to throw out some of his nuggets.

The Dodgers seem like a great young team with lots of homegrown talent, thanks to the work of Logan White in procuring and developing baseball players. At the same time, their roster is weirdly old, with half the lineup in its decline phase and as many as three starting pitchers over 30. The contrast between White's development work and the veteran fetish of Ned Colletti has never been more stark. The combined rosters have worked the last two seasons, but it's not clear whether the Matt Kemp half can keep carrying the Vicente Padilla group.

Have to say that is as good as it gets. Joe just doesn't follow the Dodgers well enough to give good analysis and never has. Jay Jaffe should be writing about the Dodgers not Joe Sheehan. He wrote this today and still has DeWitt as a back up 2nd baseman.

Other than perhaps at second base, the Dodgers cannot afford to lose a regular for any length of time, and they're well exposed to the decline phase of aging players in far too man spots. They survived the Manny Ramirez suspension a year ago, but if any of their core four youngsters, or Ramirez, were to miss significant time in '10, the Dodgers would be lost. It is as if the Dodgers are replaying the Yankee dynasty under Torre, but without all those pesky championships.

We lost Manny for 50 games last year and if anyone thinks the full 50 games Juan Pierre spelled him were the difference I have a bridge in Arizona you might be interested in buying.  I'd say the only two players we cannot afford to lose are Kemp and Andre and that would be no different then Colorado losing Tulo or Arizona losing Upton.

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I don't think we can afford to lose any of our top 3 pitchers

for any extended period of time either. I also think we need Billingsly & Kershaw to continue to develop and ensure they are progressing each year.

The Airman of Westwood

by S Jay Bruin on Mar 15, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

but you can say that about anyone. We saw what happened to the Diamondbacks without Webb. What would happen to the Rockies without Jiminez or the Giants without Lincecum? It is a throw away line that you could use with just about any team. However we could easily live without Loney or Martin and he said we’d be trouble if ANY of our young core was to miss significant time without taking into account the Grand Canyon difference between Kemp/Andre and Loney/Martin.

by meercatjohn on Mar 15, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Other than perhaps at position X, the team cannot afford to lose a regular for any length of time.”

Doesn’t this also apply to most teams in baseball? What regular could the defending NL champion Phillies afford to lose for a length of time? Their fourth OF is Ben Francisco, unless they think Domonic Brown is ready. Their backup IFs are Castro, Dobbs and Gload, and the backup C is Brian Schneider. Perhaps the teams that have backups almost as good as their starters can afford to lose a starter, which probably means their starters aren’t very good, not that their backups are great.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 15, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I said

a cheap throw away line that can be applied to just about every contending team.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 15, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

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