Cory Wade to Undergo Surgery on Shoulder, Miss At Least Three Months
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:06 AM PDT
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Cory Wade will undergo arthroscopic surgery on his right shoulder, and likely miss three months. Wade, who was on the disabled list twice last season with right shoulder problems, will have the surgery performed by Dr. Neal ElAttrache in Los Angeles on Wednesday, the team announced today.
Ken Gurnick of MLB.com has some details:
"If they don't find anything major, I'm looking at a three-month time frame," Wade said. "Nobody wants surgery, but it's come to a point where we need to figure something out."
Wade said he will return Thursday to rehab at Camelback Ranch-Glendale. The Dodgers are off Tuesday.
Gurnick also gives us an update on Hong-Chih Kuo, who missed his scheduled start in Taiwan with elbow soreness:
Meanwhile, manager Joe Torre said he's relatively confident that Kuo will be ready for the start of the season, even though last week Kuo developed soreness in a left elbow that has undergone four operations already.
"He made 15 throws Sunday in Taiwan, just testing to see how it felt, and he was OK," said Torre. "I think he'll be ready [for Opening Day]."
Coupled with the likelihood that Ronald Belisario, currently in Venezuela still battling visa problems, won't start the season with the club, the Dodger bullpen depth is being severely tested this spring.
The Dodgers' 40-man roster currently has 39 players, and with the likelihood of adding two or more non-roster invitees to the active roster by opening day -- from the group of Garret Anderson, Doug Mientkiewicz, Jeff Weaver, Ramon Ortiz, and the like -- another roster move or two will likely be needed to create room on the 40-man roster. With Wade's injury, he can be placed on the 60-day disabled list, which would open up a spot on the 40-man.
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3 months huh?
Well that sucks.
I’m not a huge fan of Wade, but he can give some decent innings in the majors. He’s not as good as he looked in 2008 and he’s not as bad as he looked in 2009. He’s somewhere in between, which isn’t a bad guy to have provide depth in the bullpen at a reasonable price.
With Belisario and Wade out, and with Kuo being anywhere on the spectrum in terms of how hurt he is, it’s looking like 3 reasonable priced relievers will miss some time. Do the Dodgers turn to an older NRI to fill in the gaps? Or does Link, Lindblom or Monasterios get the call?
There’s zero doubt to me that Link will make it. He made a good impression on Torre with his aggressiveness early on. Could be up for only a couple weeks or even a couple months. But he’ll be there.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s a ton of doubt that Link will be on the opening day roster.
It seems absurd to say there is “zero doubt” right now.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
If Link doesn’t make it the opening day roster, I will not post during the 2010 season.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Eric seems to have the right idea though. No point in putting Lindblom or Link on the 40 man until those guys are going to stick. Better to use that 40 man spot on guys like Ortiz who you can just DFA once they start sucking.
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Link is already on the 40-man. That’s why I’m so confident.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Link is on the 40-man, but there are several guys ahead of him who can be sent down
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
several guys ahead of Link who can’t be sent down, I meant to say
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Talent > Roster Status
If they want to put together the best bullpen possible, they’ll use someone who has been accustomed to those situations in the minor leagues. Not only that, but also brings the kind of stuff that can make a difference in a key situation (i.e. a big strikeout).
Haeger, for example, isn’t worth fretting over because he doesn’t have options. He’s arguably AAAA talent that would clear waivers.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
You seem to be confusing what should happen with what will happen
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
As Eric said
teams are not always built with best players and sometimes that is the right way to go.
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If they wanted to the best rotation
they would also use McDonald but they realize the value of Stults and aren’t ready to simply give him away. Do you think anyone in the organization really thinks Stults is a better pitcher then McDonald?
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there are people in the organization who view McDonald as a reliever.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
i view him as a reliever too
he gets 2 shutout innings and then boom 3rd inning is always bad..
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes you seem so lucid
and others it is hard to tell you are the same poster. Is it coffee or a split personality? Link is such a long shot, I’m not sure where your confidence is coming from. Instead of making a bet like that , let Eric and I take the risk. If Link makes the team, Eric and I will wear T-Shirts that read SilverWidow Rules on TBLA gameday.
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Link is such a long shot, I’m not sure where your confidence is coming from.
Reading between-the-lines, basically. Also watching him and studying his scouting reports.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I understand you think he is good
but I don’t think that will override the roster decision unless someone else also gets hurt.
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
His slider regained its life in July of last year. More strikeouts than IP is always a plus.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
His slider regained its life in July of last year
Did his other pitches go in the crapper? Per minorleaguesplits.com:
Apr – 1.52 FIP, 4.09/13.09 BB/K
May – 2.17, 3.00/9.75
June – 2.78, 2.53/11.81
July – 6.55, 5.59/9.31
Aug – 4.94, 6.30/8.10
Sep – 3.34, 6.00/9.00
That second half looks really bad compared to the first half, especially with the walks.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
He has been good for a couple of years
2008 (AA) — 0.5 HR/9, 4.3 BB/9, 10.5 K/9, 3.02 ERA
2009 (AAA) — 0.8 HR/9, 4.3 BB/9, 10.5 K/9, 3.99 ERA
But of course he was 24 & 25 in those seasons (he is 26 next Tuesday)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I should add
he has been solid throughout his minor league career…just a bit older than his league.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
woah
look at those walks… not a good sign at all….
dont think he will be successfull in the bigs with a 4.3 BB/9
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Big difference between pitching out of the pen and as a starter (IMO)
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s still out of 9 innings though, so it really doesn’t change all that much. Or at least that’s how I see it.
does link have kershaws fastball
his curve? his movement? his deception.? nope
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
i realized that.. link will not be successfull in he mlb with the dodgers..
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I can see that…
And it’s good that you can tell the future. There are any number of variables that could put him into the MLB bullpen, and then after that it’s not like he’s some non-factor player, he’s actually put up very decent (if not good) numbers in the minors. He’s put up FIPs of 3.20, 3.40, 2.46, 3.09, and 3.56. As a bullpen arm I’d definitely give this guy a shot if there was room and no one better than him.
Just writing him off for no apparent reason is stupid.
no reason?
look at that beautiful stat eric put up there…. and look at his walks…
no reason?
LOL
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I want Link to do well because I want to get something from Pierre besides salary reduction. But I just don’t see him sending someone else to waivers.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Mar 16, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you even looked at his statistics, or what I just showed you? Do you realize that walks actually are not the devil? And 4.3 BB/9 innings is not good, obviously, but it’s not crippling. I would be much more worried if he was striking out 6 per 9 innings, but he’s striking out over 1 per inning.
Yes, you are writing him off for no reason. Or, if you prefer, dumb reason.
If you want him to debate with you
Don’t insult him by saying his reason is dumb.
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
He had no counter argument whatsoever. All he had was high walks and I showed him why the walks weren’t such a big deal and he had nothing. I’m not a fan of people just "LOL"ing during a real argument and just pretending like it’s so laughable it doesn’t matter.
your counterargument was he strikes people out
and then you proceeded to call what i was saying dumb… so i decided to call off the argument
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Mathewmafa
is easy to debate with. Simply show him a list of very good relief ptichers with a walk rate relative to what Link has. Once you prove your point if you can, walk away. Numbers should end these type of debates.
Numbers don’t tell the whole story all the time.
Take Lindblom’s college numbers for example. Would you have even considered drafting him just based on that?
Link, on a scouting level, is better than his numbers.
It helps when you have a debate
about what is and isn’t an acceptable walk rate to succeed at the major league level based on the job.
No one is talking about college numbers. Until you mentioned it that was never ever ever part of the discussion. Are we going to start bringing up Little League numbers?
As Mike said you cannot compare a starter to a reliever when it comes to walk rates.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Chris Perez, who is a STUD reliever for Cleveland, had a 6.0 BB/9 in the minors.
I rest my case, sir.
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I used FIP, a stat that encompasses Strikeouts, Walks, Homeruns allowed, and innings pitched. Even with the high walks, because of his ability to strike people out and not allow a ton of homeruns he’s still be really good in his minor league career, and I might say underrated as well.
to allow a .8 HR/9 in AAA while being old for the league
is not good… imo…
that will rocket up to over 1 per 9 in the bigs.. not good once again… and he will not K over 9 per 9 in the bigs just cause hes doing it in AAA… his Ks will likely decline and his BBs will go up… dont forget this guy was a PTBNL…
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
PTBNL does not necessarily equal crummy
Tony Abreu was also a PTBNL.
In any case, the pitchers acquired for JP were known the same day the trade was announced. True PTBNL are usually guys that can’t be named now because of roster restrictions and such things.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
alright
yeah whatever about the ptbnl part… the other part is the useful part..
except college numbers mean
nothing
lots of good college pitchers have mediocre surface numbers, lots of college hitters who OPS 1.300 suck as professionals
cameron wrote about this on fangraphs a while back if you want to search for proof but it seems pretty common sense
belasario is a whole different case
hes a headcase… he has the greatest movement i have ever seen
So even though he’s got similar walk numbers it just doesn’t matter because you believe he’s a head case?
Yes
he needed some coaching to put his head right…. he got that wiith rick honey cutt and joe torre…
and he harnessed his stuff… his stuff is insane and its not easy to control that without proper coaching… (like pitt coaching)
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He got his shot very late in ST after impressing in minor-league camp, so maybe the minor-league pitching coaches had something to do with it also. Link now has the same coaches available to him.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
but he doesnt have the stuff that belisario does
that instantly WOWED the coachs.
Well it’s a good thing Joe Torre and Rick Honeycutt wouldn’t but coaching Link. But oh yeah, Belasario was a head case and Torre and Honeycutt are psychiatrists, that’s right.
Link has the same opportunity as Belasario did last year. Sounds to me like Link would have an easier time being successful because he’s not a “head case”.
Call me crazy, but if a guy puts up successful numbers in the minors, regardless of age (only 26), he’s got a shot to, at least, make the bullpen. 4.3 BB/9 doesn’t scare me off when most of his other stats show me that he’s pretty good.
Ethan Martin’s was 5.5 and he still had a very productive season. I knew of a bunch of SP but not a bunch of relievers. If I were to check most mlb bullpens I’d imagine we’d find a good amount of power pitchers with walk problems who are still effective.
yes he had a 5.5 with a productive season
in A ball…
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The point is a highish walk rate in the minors does not automatically mean not a prospect. And you have offered no other point to indicate he’s not a prospect. He’s had a 10.5 K rate each of the last two years, one at AA, the other at AAA. That indicate he likely has some pretty decent stuff. And yes, he’s wild, too wild, but why couldn’t he also learn to, as you put it, harness his stuff? He’ll even have the same coaches that Belisario had!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
but he doesnt have belisarios STuff...!
i think people may not be getting my point…. maybe im not making it clear..
the dodgers bullpen at its best… with kuo sherrrill broxton and everyone healthy…
will have no room for this guy who will struggle to put up a over 4 ERA..
we have much better pieces then him and that is why i dont think he will make the team
Your initial point was
that you:
dont think he will be successfull in the bigs with a 4.3 BB/9.That is an entirely different point than making the Dodgers bullpen out of ST.
Almost no one has Belisario’s stuff. But Link must have something to post a 10.5 K rate at the highest minor league level. (And, yes, being a wild-ass pitcher hurts.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
ok
i misstated my point… and i still dont think he will be good enough to make the dodgers bullpen with a 4.3 BB/9 .. thats part of the reason leach was not trusted… torre hates when RP walk people and he will not tolerate this guy coming up walking people for free…
What is your opinion of Scott Elbert? His best BB/9 is 3.74 and that was last year in AAA, every other year or level it’s been at least 4.3 (dun dun dunnnnnn). Also, Elbert’s K/9 is usually in the 10-12 range, so that seems kind of similar, doesnt it? And hey, look at that high opponent batting average, too. Hmmm, you must really not like Elbert*, then.
*Obviously Elbert is a better prospect than Link, I’m just helping make my point.
and where is elbert????
in minor league camp/….
thanks for helping out my point even more… joe doesnt like people who are wild and walk people…
otherwise elbert would obviously be in contention for a starting spot or RP spot
Lol, and I think Elbert should still be fighting for the 5th spot in the rotation (also, they, thank god, want him as a starter. You should know that Elbert always gets the short end of the stick in this organization, no one assumed Elbert would make the 5th spot, I was just really hoping) right now. That doesn’t help out your point at all. If you haven’t noticed, Joe likes to make questionable decisions at times, such as not starting Billingsley in the playoffs last year, hitting Matt Kemp 8th for half the season, using Mark Loretta as our main pinch hitter ALL SEASON.
What reason is there that you are fighting this so hard? Plenty of evidence has been shown to counter your point.
exactly my point
silverwidow think link will make the team and i dont think he will…
exactly your point, now.
When you shifted from focusing on Link’s BB/9 to claim he wouldn’t ever make the show to later saying your point was that he won’t make the 2010 Dodger opening day roster.
I don’t think Link makes the opening day roster either, but I think he see the majors at some point in his career, unless his arm falls off.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And? It was still 5.5, I’m surprised you haven’t condemned him for it.
Link’s K/BB ratio is 2.44 over each of the last 2 seasons. I’d be much more worried about the walks if it was closer to 2 or definitely if it was under. His opponent batting average has gone up the last 2 years, but that’s to be expected going up to AA and then AAA. His BABIP against was .324 and then .350, so he may have actually been a tad unlucky in that regard.
lol
link is not even a top 30 dodger prospect..
According to BA, he is #25 (this is after the book came out).
by silverwidow on Mar 16, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not saying he’s some stud, but have you ever actually LOOKED at his stats, rather than just making assumptions?
yes eric stephen gave me a link to them
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
So what do you think of his 10.5 K rate the last two years?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
it was good
but not good enough to make the best bullpen in baseballs roster..
Just to put it in some perspective
10.5 was 8th in the IL last year. As a point of comparison, Chris Tillman, BA’s #22 prospect in 2009 was 9.2 and tied for 17th. (He’s not a 2010 prospect, pitched over 50 innings for Baltimore last year.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
lol
chris tillman was 20 years old SP in AAA.. nice try tho
21
Yes, Tillman is very good. The point is 10.5 is very, very good.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
if he was 21 like tillman
it would have been WAY more impressive and i might have changed my mind… and if tillman pitched in relief the whole year.. his K rate would be higher.
Link isn’t a top prospect because of age, no one is trying to make that assertion. If Link was 22 I wouldn’t hesitate to say he would be a top 10 prospect for the Dodgers.
yeah
but comparing tillman and link… not very smart
I wasn’t comparing them per se, just using an example to show that your earlier myopic focus on walk rate and ignore the quite high K rate was misguided.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
What’s the bullpen look like right now?
Broxton
Sherrill
Kuo
Belasario
Troncoso
Wade
Weaver
Then basically one spot open. Actually that would be best case scenerio.
So with Wade’s injury and Belasario out of the country, that leaves 3 bulllpen spots open, correct? I’d assume two of those spots would be taken by Monasterios and Ramon Ortiz. After that we’ve got Ayala (I’d guess a long, long shot), Justin Miller (more likely I would imagine), Link, Ely (Haven’t heard much at all about him this off-season), Lindblom, and Josh Towers. Of all of those guys I would imagine Miller would win the last MRP or mop up spot instead of anyone else.
I’m not sure what they will do with Lindblom, but since he’s not on the 40-man yet and they won’t risk losing him by sending him down, he is probably the longest shot (unless he just dominates the next 3 weeks — you know, like Ramon Ortiz!).
This helps guys on the 40-man we can lose…Haeger and Monasterios.
I still think J-Mac will be in the pen when the season starts, and Weaver and/or Ramon Ortiz could be too.
Picking today the opening day bullpen:
Broxton
Sherrill
Troncoso
Monasterios
Haeger
J-Mac
Weaver
Ramon O could take J-Mac’s spot I suppose, but I’m not convinced…yet.
I don’t think Link will make it, yet, because he has options and they will try out the others first.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW, my bullpen assumptions above assume Stults starts the year as the 5th starter
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you assuming Kuo won’t make OD?
I think the bullpen will be:
Broxton
Sherrill
Troncoso
Kuo
Monasterios
Ortiz
Haegar/Weaver
I think Heagar and Weaver will be battling it out for the final spot.
Yes, I think Kuo will start on the DL. I see too much couching of statements in all the quotes from Torre or Kuo.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I could see that
Our bullpen strength would take a serious hit without Kuo and Bellisario.
I think Kuo starts on the DL as well I'm afraid
I think the Dodgers try to sneak Haeger through waivers. Despite what Torre recently said, I don’t think he wants a knuckleballer pitching out of the pen. Stults and Haeger are both really starting pitchers only, so one (looking like Stults) will make the rotation while the other gets DFA’d.
So I expect the bullpen will be:
Broxton
Sherrill
Tron
Monasterios
McDonald
Ortiz/Weaver
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Haegar makes a good option out of the pen, especially for a pen that figures to see a lot of work. To have a guy who can eat up innings almost on a daily basis would probably be pretty valuable.
I would have Haeger pegged for innings eater in garbage time. A guy who throws a pitch that basically flutters will little ability to control seems like a liability out of the pen. The bullpen values control over being an innings eater. Walking batters out of the pen can turn a manageable situation (Dodgers down 2 runs) into a blowout really quickly.
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
haegars knuckler isnt HUGE.... to the point where he cant control it...
haegar has great control over his knuckler… plus he has other pitches like a fastball and slider he can throw
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I remember watching him get tattoed throwing his fastball more than once per game (not a very analytical respone just a funny memory.) Sitting at the LAD vs. CHI game last year when he tried to sneak a fastball past (I believe) Reed Johnson who crushed a 400 foot foul ball. Haeger wisely put that pitch on the shelf for the remainder of the contest….
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
nope...
it wasnt the fastball that was being crushed…
it was that slider… he gave up 3 homers last year off the slider..
by matthewmafa on Mar 16, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
he gave up 3 homers last year off the slider..
Per both Fangraphs and Bill James Online, Haeger threw all of seven sliders all season (308 total pitches). He gave up four home runs.
2 vs Cards
Knuckleball to Pujols
Knuckleball to Ankiel
2 vs Reds
Knuckleball to Tatum
Changeup to Paul Janish
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
the one to janish was a slider
nvm on the 3 hrs on sliders… it was just 1… i think i meant to say his slider was just really bad.. i remmeber myself being pissed of on many occasions with him pitching cause he would get hurt throwing the slider..instead of his knuckle
Yeah
You are right on the pitch to Janish. Per TSN:
“It was a knuckleball that stayed in the middle of the plate and one was a slider that was down,” Haeger said of the two homers he allowed.
Also, given the fact that Gameday pitch type is basically just inputted by somebody in the press box looking at the speed, break, and Pitch fx off a computer and making an educated guess, it’s not always the most reliable source for such things.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Charlie Hough had a good knuckler out of the pen. More to the point, Torre faced Wakefield enough out of the pen. No reason to think Haeger won’t get a chance as a swingman. I think it will be JMac, Weaver, and the Ortizi who start in AAA, simply to avoid giving anyone away.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Mar 16, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing Haeger out of the bp, because he’d be a better innings eater than Weaver would IMO.
The times you need an innings-eater out of the pen are few and far between.
How many blow outs are there?
With a 12-man pen, as Torre is likely to start with, it’s extremely likely there will be a couple guys who “need work” to pitch those innings.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 16, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
God I hated seeing Charlie come out of the pen. Part of my irrational hatred of knuckleballers. I find knuckeballers acceptable as 5th starter innings eaters and hard to take otherwise.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 16, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Will be interesting to see how this plays out
if Ramon Ortiz continues to pitch well and Weaver doesn’t. Does management go with what Ortiz has shown in the spring or with what Weaver did last year. Another point to consider, Ramon Ortiz has generally done his work against the starting lineup while Weaver has been doing his as the lineups start to change. Meaning what Ramon has done is more impressive then what someone like Withrow did against old prospects.
Unlike Silverwidow I don’t see Link making the team out of spring training. He can easily be sent down and we can’t do that with Haeger or Monasterios.
Monasterios
I saw where the Brewers worked out a deal for their rule V guy, Lofgren. I didn’t realize that we could make a trade to try and keep Monasterios in the org but not on the 25 man.
He would still have to clear waivers before the trade could be worked out (although that likely wouldn’t be a problem).
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Lofgren? The E Street Band guy? Kinda short for baseball.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 16, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Team Today
Loney, DeWitt, Furcal, Blake, Ellis, Belliard, Carroll, Ausmus
Ethier, Kemp, Manny, Johnson, Anderson
Kuorda, Kershaw, Padilla, Billingsley, Stults
Broxton, Sherrill, Troncoso, McDonald, Monesterious, Ortiz, Weaver
Martin on DL
Kuo on DL
Bellisorio on inactive list
Haeger passes waivers
Minky heads down to AAA
It will get dicey when Kuo and Bellisario are ready.
Jamie Hoffman should be coming back our way any day now. He’s having a terrible spring as his his competition, Marcus Thames but I have a hard time seeing them picking Hoffman over Thames. I doubt anyone will claim Jamie so we will need to make room for him.
Don’t we all agree that Jamie Hoffman is better then Jason Repko?
Why do we need to make room for him?
If he clears waivers, isn’t he offered back to the Dodgers but he doesn’t have to go on the 40 man roster?
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
As I recall he had a contract
that stated he had to be on the 40 man roster by May 2010
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Right.
Now that you mention that, I remember that too.
Ya, I agree Hoffmann is better than Repko
by Michael White on Mar 16, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That really was a nice piece of agency by Hoffmann’s agent, to have that clause added to the contract. It assured him an opportunity this spring and if it didn’t work out, a spot on the 40-man during the season.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
We won’t have to clear room until May, when his contract stipulates he needs to be added to the 40-man
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Presumably Hoffmann/Thames are competing for the RH half of a platoon with Winn. Winn sucks as a RH batter.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 16, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Bummer about Wade
but no one here should be surprised. I just hate it when they do this in Spring, I doubt his shoulder was not hurting last summer.
Whatever happened to Russ Ortiz? I haven't heard of him all spring.
by Skunkburner on Mar 16, 2010 11:26 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Putting up the same zeros
as Ramon, he just hasn’t thrown as many innings.
by meercatjohn on Mar 16, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Though not as dominant as Ramon.
Russ: 2 hits, 1 walk, 3 K in 5 IP
Ramon: 5 hits, 2 walks, 11 K in 9 IP
by Eric Stephen on Mar 16, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope Russ does not make the team. The last few times we faced him, I remember killing him. I like the knuckleballer. His pitches go woopity doo
by Skunkburner on Mar 16, 2010 8:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i remember we beat him for a few runs in the first inning
and then he shut us down big time after that…
Stultsie
Just heard Torre refer to ES [the other one] as “Stultsie”—I believe this bodes well for his chances to make the team. You don’t say, “Stultsie, I’m sorry but we decided to go another direction”; You say, “Stultsie, you’re our guy and we have all the faith in the world in you.”
I suck at block quoting
His changeup has gotten better, helping him get lefties out, but he walked almost a batter an inning against lefties in 2009 for Charlotte. He has the stuff to pitch in the bigs, but he needs to make strides with his control.
http://futuresox.com/frontpage/2009/09/26/jon-link/
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Mar 16, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
damnb
i wish he could be headed back to LA….
the guy has a future in the mlb
Potential silver lining
for Wade is that, if he was in the minors he would make somewhere in the $65-70k range. But being on the major league DL, he will be earning the pro-rated portion of his major league salary, likely $400-410k.
Of course, he had a decent chance of making the team anyway if he was healthy. Just looking for some positive from his perspective.
New Post up Top
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/16/1376225/tbla-dodger-stadium-outing-may-1st
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
“Ball Four” has a segment about Joe Torre screwing people.
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by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
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