2010 Player Profile: Ramon Troncoso- Utility Man
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintRamon Troncoso had a really nice year in 2009, and was able perform in every role that was asked of him. Troncoso was coming off a good year in 2008 where he posted an x-FIP of 2.96 in 38.0 innings of relief, but Troncoso was certainly not a lock to make the roster out of camp. In fact, Troncoso struggled a bit, both in the winter leagues and in spring training last season. The problem perhaps for Troncoso was that he didn't have a defined role (which is still true to a degree.) He's not a closer, he's not a setup man, he's not a starter. So he's basically the swing man in the bullpen, available to be called in regardless of the situation.
Consider the different roles Troncoso was given in 2009. In camp, there was a thought that he could become a starter, as the Dodgers were struggling to fill the 5th starter role (a job which initially went to James McDonald but was never settled in 2009.) Troncoso did make the club out of camp, and with Jeff Weaver in Albuquerque and James McDonald in the starting rotation, Troncoso's role was the long reliever. Troncoso's ability to perform in that role was cemented by earning the elusive 4 inning save. And then the injury bug struck the Dodgers. Cory Wade went down, Will Ohman went down, Hong-Chih Kuo went down. As a result, all that was left in the Dodgers bullpen was Jonathon Broxton, Ronald Belisario and Troncoso (the rest of the bullpen was filled with players who began the year in the minors.) Troncoso was called upon to have a more active role in the bullpen, becoming the setup man and occasionally the closer on games when Broxton was unavailable.
And then, as Troncoso had filled in wherever asked, Troncoso went back to having no role again. Things changed rather quickly, and through no fault of his own, Troncoso became the fifth option out of the Dodgers bullpen down the stretch and heading into the postseason. The Dodgers brought in George Sherrill who proceeded to post a 0.65 ERA for the Dodgers, Kuo came back from injury the same week and returned to his dominant form, and Ronald Belisario was understandably considered the more dominant pitcher (compared to Troncoso) because of his strike out rate. So what role will Troncoso have in 2010?
| Year | Age | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP | x-FIP | tRA | ERA+ |
| 2008 | 25 | 38.0 | 2.84 | 9.00 | 4.26 | 3.00 | 2.96 | 3.55 | 98 |
| 2009 | 26 | 82.2 | 3.70 | 5.99 | 2.72 | 3.58 | 4.22 | 3.80 | 145 |
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2010 Projections - Age 27 Season |
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| Bill James | 72.0 | 3.75 | 6.63 | 3.88 | 3.54 | ||||
| CHONE | 72.0 | 3.50 | 6.38 | 3.88 | 3.92 | ||||
| Marcel | 70.0 | 3.47 | 6.94 | 3.73 | 3.87 | ||||
| Baseball HQ | 65.0 | 3.87 | 6.50 | 4.15 | 3.85 | ||||
2010 Outlook
It's not hard to realize the value of having a Troncoso on your pitching staff. As injuries are a natural part of a 162 game season, having utility pitchers who can fill different roles and not kill you is quite the luxury. And that's precisely what Troncoso provides. He's not particularly dominant as his strikeout rate of 5.99 was good for 9th out of the 11 Dodgers pitchers who pitched at least 20 innings in relief last season. But he won't kill you either, as his BB/9 of 3.70 is solid as is his HR/9 of 0.33 (though his x-FIP of 4.22 suggests he was a bit lucky in this regard.) The season hasn't yet begun, and the Dodgers have already seen a bit of instability in their bullpen as Wade is out for 3 months, Belisario remains at large, and Kuo was unable to make his last scheduled pitching appearance due to elbow issues. Having a reliable bullpen piece like Troncoso is quite a luxury.
In 2010, I expect Troncoso will post an ERA of 3.85, a FIP of 3.60, and 2 saves in 65 innings of work.
What are your community projections for Ramon Troncoso (ERA, WHIP, IP)?
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I’ll pick 3.71 ERA / 1.250 WHIP / 75 IP for Troncoso
I was looking at some reliever BB/9, and man the Carlos Marmol line jumped out at me: 7.91 BB/9 in 74 IP. With 50 innings pitched, only two relievers have had a higher walk rate in the past 20 years:
Steve Randolph: 8.38 in 81.2 IP (2004)
John Rocker: 8.15 in 53 IP (2000)
Back to Troncoso, I don’t expect him to walk as many this year. He had a 3.0 BB/9 rate in the minors, albeit with a spike in both 2006 (Vero) and 2008 (Vegas). I would guess he gets his walk rate in the 3.25 area. If he ever gets it below 3 per 9 innings, Troncoso can be really good, especially with his ground ball tendencies.
Marmol had an x-FIP of 5.13 last season
If he were on the Dodgers, not only would he (obviously) not be the closer, he would struggle to be included in the bullpen, considering his numbers. Every member of the Dodgers bullpen last year (pitching a minimum of 20 innings) had an better x-FIP with the exception of Mota, who had an x-FIP of 5.18.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
x-FIP is great for us to look at but manager/general managers don’t look at that. They look at the saves, and they were convinced enough that Marmol was good enough they gave him the job with little competition. It is one thing for us to build a bullpen based on advanced metrics, it is a different world for those who do this for a living. Carlos Marmol would have a job in our bullpen.
The real point however was yesterday’s discussion about how Link’s walk rate meant he had no future in the major leagues and nothing could be farther from the truth. Bullpens are littered with guys with his walk rate.
That walk rate will hurt him
Marmol didn’t become the closer until late in the season after Gregg was finally relieved of his duties. And even though Marmol went 11-11 in closing situations, he walked 13 batters in 17 2/3 innings. Just because that walk rate didn’t hurt him last year, unless he cleans it up, he will have problems.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course he will have problems
if he doesn’t control a crazy rate like that but if he drops it back to his 2008/2007 levels of 4.5 his double digit K rate will allow him to handle it.
Marmol pulled a Kershaw last year, and allowed only 43 hits in 74 innings, so the walks didn’t come back to hurt him so much. He, like Kershaw, was lucky for that in 2009, and for both of their sakes, they better tone down the walks a bit because both might not be SO lucky in 2010.
wasnt marmol as lucky in 08
i remmeber he had historic hit to innings pitched levels.
He actually still had a 4.06 FIP in 09
even with all the walks, so he still managed to be around average in that regard, I believe. A nice ERA, tons of strikeouts, only 2 homeruns, and only 43 hits allowed. Damn.
Hu
Two commenters on U.S.S. Mariner have mentioned trading for Hu to fill a backup middle infielder need. As much as I like Hu, if he’s not going to make the team, we might consider turning him loose. The situation is similar to Delwyn Young’s last year (which most agree resulted in a bad trade), but for whatever reason, when our organization decides a player can’t cut it, it seems the decision is final. I know Hu can be sent down to AAA, but with Gordon on the horizon and DeJesus at least passable at SS, Hu’s future is now.
I guess it would depend on the return, but there’s really no reason to deal Hu yet. He has an option left, and would likely be the starting SS for an extended period if Furcal got hurt. I guess this is a case where it depends on how far along DeJesus is. If the club feels DeJesus is close to ready, then they might be more likely to deal Hu.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Mariners want to send
us one of the plethora of good setup man they have for our Hu I’m all for it. Otherwise they can simply have Nick Green when we release him.
Lineups
Sox
Pierre 7
Beckham 4
Quentin 9
Konerko 3
Jones DH
Ramirez 6
Vizquel 5
Castro 2
De Aza 8
Peavy RHP
Dodgers:
Furcal 6
Kemp 8
Ethier 9
Ramirez DH
Loney 3
Blake 5
Anderson 7
DeWitt 4
Ellis 2
Ru. Ortiz RHP
Just noticed that Omar Vizquel is playing 3B today. Heh.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
March Madness
Hate working during March Madness, not as excited as I normally am but normally this is my favorite time of year.
That they are saving his finite number of innings for games that count.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m having trouble reconciling that, by UZR/150, Ethier was rated a worse fielder than Manny:
Manny: -15.4 UZR/150
Ethier: -17.7 UZR/150
Per plus/minus, their runs saved were a tad different:
Manny: -4
Ethier: -1
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny may have looked worse
but ‘Dre was so hesitant last year, he let a lot of balls drop in front of him that could have been caught. For all of Manny’s faults in the OF, you don’t usually see him do that.
Who is talking about last year?
He is going to be so protective of his legs this year that the sounds of boos cascading on him during his leisurely trots after doubles will make the A Jones boos seem tame.
Just a baseline from which to judge, that’s all.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Are LF and RF UZR numbers directly comparable?
UZR (ultimate zone rating): The number of runs above or below average a fielder is in both range runs, outfield arm runs, double play runs and error runs combined.
I always thought that the average was different for LF vs. RF, with RFs better, because RF averages tend not to be dragged down by the likes of Manny, although Hawpe and Dunn were out there a lot last year.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Babe Herman
was a legend in Glendale where I grew up. What is your connection with him that you would sponsor his page?
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember watching the Phillies in the late ’70’s? Luzinski in left field, aligned with his left foot towards home plate and facing the left field foul pole. He could cover anything between him and the foul line; sometimes actually getting to foul territory to grab a foul ball. Garry Maddox covered everything behind him. Thank God for Matt Kemp!
by KellyStephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Maddox
was awesome but he couldn’t keep the Bull from dropping Manny Mota’s fly ball at the wall. That was our generations Holliday to the nuts moment.
loved that fly ball....
1977 was a great year, I turned 16 that year and got the old station wagon. I went to my first WS game with my Grandfather, alas we lost to the hated Yankees, but the memory of that pain fades and the memories of a great day in LF pavilion remain.
by MammothDodger on Mar 17, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If DeWitt wins the job
would anyone be surprised if Belliard ends up an Oriole with the back problems that Roberts is having?
I would. I think they want Belliard there as protection for DeWitt. Moving Belliard, basically makes Carroll the platoon partner which means we probably end up carrying Green or Berroa. That doesn’t make us better.
If we move Belliard
then I’d expect Hu or Green to get the gig. Carroll is redundant at this point but he’s unmovable, so I expect Belliard to be moved once they are confident in DeWitt.
Carroll’s signing gets more frustrating every day.
by KellyStephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see it
still.
I think they like having both Belliard and Carroll on the bench.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
and 3B? Could be Roly-Poly is the #2 2B and the #3 3B.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This morning the Dodgers reassigned LHP Juan Perez, OF Prentice Redman and INF Russell Mitchell to minor league camp.
47 players now in big league camp (Belisario would make 48)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
4th outfielder
how about elijah Dukes…?
he is 2 years removed from a .864 OPS… and can play all 3 outfield spots
He can play all 3 OF spots badly. And he’s a legitimate malcontent. Not just as he’s a bad clubhouse guy, but as in a seriously disturbed and should probably be locked up in jail somewhere.
from www.mlbtraderumors.com
Just a couple of weeks ago [a writer] noted that the Nationals had “taken the reins off Dukes — letting his personal adviser go and allowing him more freedom with the media.”
His 08 and 09 seasons were almost polar opposites of each other. In 08 he actually could strike people out at a good rate, but he allowed more runs, and looked like he had a worse season on the surface (though had a very nice season through the more advanced stats). In 09, his surface stats looked tremendous, then I just looked and saw how much worse his walks, ks, and FIP were, and it really surprised me. I’d love to see something in the middle of that, and see him get that K/9 up.
Small sample size in 2008?
It was only 38.0 innings and from what I recall he was one of the last options out of the pen and he generally appeared in low leverage situations. I think something in between is a reasonable hope, but I’d say 2009 is closer to his true talent level than 2008 (just a hunch.)
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Strand rate as well. Troncoso got out of crazy situations because of the DP, and I don’t think FIP or x-FIP takes DPs into account.
It would not since both metrics are defense independent.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d like someone to explain why Belliard and Carroll are not getting playing time in the 2nd base “competition”?
Or could it be that it was never a competition at all and they were just screwing with DeWitt’s head?
The organization is swayed by the small sample size accomplishments of DeWitt?
Perhaps if DeWitt was struggling, those guys would have gotten more of a look. Doesn’t bode well for our hopes that Ramon Ortiz doesn’t make the team.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't hope that Ramon Ortize does not make the team
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't be so doubly non-un-negative
;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
(But I agree with you, I'm not rooting against Ramon O either)
Especially when another option is Russ O.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
NO, not Russ O! He's the worst.
by Skunkburner on Mar 17, 2010 12:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I agree
That was my point. I’d much prefer Ramon to Russ. Or anyone to Russ, basically.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I don’t think Carroll was really ever in the hunt for the “starter” position, and that he is slated to be a backup all over the infield, so it’s basically between Belliard and DeWitt.
There were only five games before the trip to Taiwan, and DeWitt started four of them at second base. Although one of those games featured Belliard at 3B, filling in for Blake, so perhaps it might be as close as 3-2 in starts (or 4-2 after today I guess).
Also, Belliard and Carroll are veterans, and are more “known quantities,” so they are giving DeWitt as much opportunity as possible to show what he’s got.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they know what Belliard can do
but if DeWitt is going to be the 2nd base then he needs as many reps as he can get. Defense is all they keep saying they are worried about with him. The more you play with Furcal the better your chances of becoming a smooth oiled infield machine.
I totally agree with Eric. Once Belliard came to camp, Carroll was strictly utility.
or if you’re a fan of Ron Thulen unwittingly twisting the knife in Stanford’s go ahead TD, saying “Touchdown USC” :(
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully with the NCAA bitch slapping him back to the stone age and Mr. Davis pissing on his carcass.
Al Davis should never be addressed as Mr. Davis, except at his funeral.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
In HD?
I can’t recall if versus had HD….
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Good deal
For my sports viewing pleasure, I believe the only HD holdout is ESPNU. And it drives me crazy watching a college basketball game that isn’t in HD.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
No. I don’t get how we didn’t get an NIT bid. We finished 3rd in a conference where finishers 1 and 2 went to the NCAA tournament. Not only that, but we are travelling to Northern Colorado. I expect a one and done.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't notice you didn't get a NIT bid
that sucks, you deserved it. I have no clue what the CIT is.
Any chance Gonzaga or Saint Mary’s can advance? Gonzaga got a tough matchup.
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I like St. Mary's in the first game
over Richmond. I love picking teams in the tourney who have size, which St. Mary’s has.
I think Gonzaga can beat Florida State (and probably will) but I don’t have a strong opinion on that one. Gonzaga is in a bit of a slide getting run by SMC and losing at home to LMU the last week of the season.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I've never heard of the
CBI or CIT. I barely pay attention to the NIT anymore. The NCAA killed it when they expanded to 64 teams.
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I was more excited for post-season tournaments last year, because the entire team for Portland was returning, so it was an oppurtunity to get more reps. That won’t be the case next year so it doesn’t matter. Hopefully the coach will use this as an oppurtunity to get some of his young guys reps (since I think the only 2 point guards who got PT this year are graduating.) But more likely it will be a reward for a solid season for the regular starters.
Portland facts going into the post-season. Beat 2 teams in the NCAA tournament, St. Mary’s and Minnesota. Lost to 4 teams in the NCAA tournament, Washington, West Virginia, Gonzaga (twice) and St. Mary’s.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
There are really no West Coast teams in the NIT, except ASU who is already done. And I see that Illinois was a one seed and had to go to Stony Brook tonight? None of it makes sense.
They had to travel
because their home arena was pre-booked for a Cirque du Soleil show. I kid you not. (They probably booked that thinking Illinois would be in the NCAA’s anyway so it doesn’t matter. Whoops.) Merde!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Oh the Zumanity!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty awesome, huh?
College ball audience in HD can be unmatched.
by Julio Nievas on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I get ESPNU in HD (known as ESPUH – pyew) on Cox Cable in Santa Barbara. Cox was really, really slow to get into HD – as late as last August Dodger games on FSNPT were hit and miss, more miss, on a sort of secret HD channel that never announced whether games would be in HD or not, and when they were often suddenly switched to other programming ion the middle of a late inning; and the year before had no KCAL games in HD. But since last August we get just about everything in HD, including all of FSNPT, FSNW, KCAL. Since December or so we’ve also got ESPNNews and ESPNU in HD. What I’m actually most happy about is that we now get the IFC indy film network (no commercials) in HD as well. But Angels fans still can’t get those Channel 13 games up here in any shape or form (not even SD).
I’m still waking up from my trip to the Price is Right yesterday
by robotmadeofnails on Mar 17, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions
My friend went and won his showcase showdown. Big prize was 2 recliners I think. He also played plinko.
by Skunkburner on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Price is Right
On the subject of the Price is Right, in 1989 my Dad (the original Vero Joe) was on his honeymoon w/ my step mother and attended the show. He was selected by Bob Barker to “Come on Down!”. My Pops won the whole damn thing (Grand Showcase) which included a red compact 4 door Nissan, a Grand Piano, a Camper and some other stuff. I was in 2nd grade at the time and they played in in the auditorium in front of our whole school. I was so damn proud, and still am. Okay that’s all I had, I just figured I’d add my memorable experience since we were on the subject. I hope all is well in TBLALAND and I am stoked that Dewitt looks tohave the 2nd base job locked down. I was rooting for him but my confidence was diminished a bit when they resigned Belliard. We can always chalk it up as, “Colletti loves his depth”. I am a Coletti fan, and had the pleasure of meeting him in 2007 while he was eating at my Dad’s restaurant with Logan White & Billy Mueller. I made the biggest bonehead move though by accident. I didn’t recognize Mueller so when Colletti mentioned Mueller’s batting title I replied by saying that his title (.326 BA) was the lowest ever to qualify for a batting title. Mueller replied by saying “sometimes u gotta take what u can get”. I turned beat red, apologized frantically and hurridly went back to stocking the bar. It was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life! True story!
by VeroJoe on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Did you get onto Contestant Row?
I went once in college, but didn’t get picked. It was still fun. I believe Gina Lee Nolan was one of Barker’s Beauties at the time.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t get called up. Overall it was really fun, but the one major bummer is that they sat us in the front left row. So, we could see the audience seating chart on one of the camera men’s cameras, and we could read the names and locations of the contestants they would call up. So, before the show started, we knew we were not getting called.
I will do it again sometime, but I will go with a larger group and make shirts.
by robotmadeofnails on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I know the answer to this already
But would like an opinion. A co-worker friend of mine is offering me Koufax and Drysdale signed baseballs (from 1980s memorabilia shows) for $100 total. They are authentic. I haven’t seen them yet, but he says there is some normal fade on the ink.
Should I do it?
I have never been one to pay for autographs, but if you have $100 to spend, and you will value the baseballs, why not?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, that seems like too good of a deal to be true. If the balls are real and have solid authentication, there is around $4-500 worth of value there depending on who the authentication is from. If you have any questions about the authentication, I’ve worked at a memorabilia store for a while so I’m pretty well versed in that area.
by UCLADodger32 on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Saying something we kind of figured
Torre:
McDonald looks like more of a bullpen guy. Stults and Haeger haven’t done anything to hurt their chances. I don’t think anybody for sure is on the team.
McDonald technically already had a spot from his good work last year. Still leaves two openings without Belisario.
by silverwidow on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
From yesterday
I think Ramon Ortiz is battling for the Belisario spot to open the season. How it goes from there is when it will get interesting.
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
More Torre
Manny will probably be in the outfield at some point this week, but I wanted to give Anderson another game in the outfield. We want to get Belliard at first base this weekend.
I read that last part (RE: Belliard) as DeWitt is the starting 2B
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
At this point shouldn't Carroll
be the only guy backing up Furcal so they can see how he handles SS? It is not like he’s played it very much in the major leagues.
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Another Torre quote
that I’m not sure about whom he was talking about:
The relievers will go two innings and 15 pitches each in the minor league games.
Maybe they sent
some arms from major league camp to get some work in since they have so many still?
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s probably it…there were just no names attached to the qutoe.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Clarity
from Tony Jackson:
Kershaw, Broxton and Sherrill all pitching in minor league intrasquad games this morning
Jakcson added Kershaw would pitch 5 innings
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Which means I won’t see Kershaw tomorrow. Not unexpected, since today marks four days rest.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
If the schedule holds, wouldn’t that place Kershaw to start the second game of the season (April 7) since there is no game on the 6th?
by silverwidow on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
He is on track to pitch Opening Day
At Dodger Stadium. He would also pitch the first Sunday game too.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
More surprising if Ramon Ortiz makes it in?
by Julio Nievas on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to rain on your parade
But I always found that term a bit offensive. I’ve spent a good amount of time in Northern Ireland (Enniskillen) and the people’s lives there have been affected as much by terrorism (or “the troubles”)as ours here have. Just putting it out there. No big :)
That is crazy, but man he took the right steps to try and retain his job. Owning up to it goes a long way.
by robotmadeofnails on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Josh Hamilton: Sometimes in our lives we all have pain
We all have sorrow
But if we are wise
We know that there’s always tomorrow
Lean on me, when you’re not strong
And I’ll be your friend
I’ll help you carry on
For it won’t be long
‘Til I’m gonna need
Somebody to lean on
Please swallow your pride
If I have things you need to borrow
For no one can fill those of your needs
That you don’t let show
Lean on me, when you’re not strong
And I’ll be your friend
I’ll help you carry on
For it won’t be long
‘Til I’m gonna need
Somebody to lean on
If there is a load you have to bear
That you can’t carry
I’m right up the road
I’ll share your load
If you just call me
So just call on me brother, when you need a hand
We all need somebody to lean on
I just might have a problem that you’d understand
We all need somebody to lean on
Lean on me when you’re not strong
And I’ll be your friend
I’ll help you carry on
For it won’t be long
Till I’m gonna need
Somebody to lean on
Lean on me…
Ron Washington: Uh, what?
“I’ll share your load”
And then some!
by kinbote on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
impressed with the Rangers for supporting him. Sounds like he a bit of an all-star binge. Remember when Maury Wills was busted for his drug use during his managerial days. It was also coke wasn’t it?
by meercatjohn on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but he should have been a speed freak.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 17, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice
Perfect situation for Anderson. I expect him to win that job outright.
by Michael White on Mar 17, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
meanwhile I still don't understand
Cleveland’s QB situation. Delhomme and Seneca Wallace? I understand wanting a clean start but gosh… Maybe Wallace will continue to improve though. Or they’ll draft a QB #1. Perhaps another Notre Dame QB. Hah hah.
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Is the game online for free today?
crosses fingers
by robotmadeofnails on Mar 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions
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