Brew Crew Visits Blue Crew - Game Thread
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 12:37 PM PDT
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PrintBrewers (12-9-2) at Dodgers (7-10-2)
1:05pm, Camelback Ranch, Glendale, AZ
Josh Towers and Ramon Ortiz will do the bulk of the pitching today for the Dodgers. Both George Sherrill and Jonathan Broxton are scheduled to pitch both today and tomorrow, working their first back-to-back outings of the spring. Carlos Monasterios will pitch an inning at most today, if at all, and is likely more of a candidate for a bullpen spot than the fifth starter job.
Here are the lineups:for
| Brewers | Dodgers | |||
| 2B | Weeks | SS | Furcal | |
| CF | Gomez | CF | Kemp | |
| LF | Braun | RF | Ethier | |
| 1B | Fielder | DH | Manny | |
| 3B | McGehee | 1B | Loney | |
| C | Zaun | 3B | Blake | |
| RF | Hart | LF | Anderson | |
| SS | Counsell | 2B | Carroll | |
| P | Suppan | C | Closser | |
I wrote a short 2010 Dodger season preview for SB Nation (before the Padilla news broke, by the way).
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and he sucked for maybe the only time in his career. Like Jim Eisen something
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by Phil Gurnee on Mar 25, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Davis
Was my big disappointment because he was such a great player in Cincy and he then had a few good years after he left LA.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
had huge expectations for Davis. And Kal Daniels for that matter.
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The local news reporter
was leaving the locker room with him in street clothes a few games ago and he got hassled by security for not having credentials. Later he said when he was starting out he got mistaken for a bat boy and now they think he’s the media. It’s worth noting that he’s a bit of a celebrity in the Phoenix area.
Closser?
Not Ellis? Is AJ hurt as well?
Man I wish we had that kid what is his name, sounds like an aging guitar player….
AJ Ellis played a full game last night
so he understandably gets the day off. Ausmus is still not 100 either, too.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ausmus is still not 100 either, too
He’s close, in age :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
From Jon at DT (who is quoting Tony Jackson)
Tony Jackson:
“I think the bigger question is whether DeWitt even makes the team. He has certainly performed well enough this spring to earn the job, but there is still a good chance he’ll get squeezed out for a lack of roster spots. I think the last spot will be between DeWitt and a seventh reliever, if the Dodgers decide to carry seven relievers. … Ned Colletti is a huge believer in inventory, keeping as many players in the organization as possible, and a lot of these non-roster guys have escape clauses if they aren’t in the majors. If there is a possible seventh reliever who might walk if he doesn’t make the team, and Ned decides to keep him, that doesn’t bode well for DeWitt, who still has options and is under club control for years to come.”
The weird thing is that I had 7 relievers already on the team
13 position players would be
2 catchers
6 Loney, Furcal, Blake, DeWitt, Belliard, Carroll)
5 OF (Manny, Matty, Andre, Reed, Garrett)
by bhsportsguy on Mar 25, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What happened to the logic to field the best team possible?
Seriously. I’m getting pissed off at all the gamesmanship with burying guys who can help the club now (Elbert, McDonald, DeWitt, possibly Link) so that we can hold on to NRI garbage and marginal major leaguers (Stults and Haeger) because they lack options. Moves like this, to me, indicate that the Dodgers brass consider a division championship a foregone conclusion. I certainly do not. I like the Dodgers chances, but they need to actually dress the right guys in order to acheive their goals.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this to an extent. I would certainly be disappointed if DeWitt gets sent down because we are worried about losing Weaver or the Ortiz boys. However, I think there is something to trying to hold onto guys like Stults or Haegar who can be run out to the mound in an emergency to make several starts in a row. You aren’t worried about their development but they can be helpful during the right times. That said, none of the guys we stand to lose is more important than getting DeWitt starts at the big league level.
If that's true
Than Dewitt really never had a chance. So why give him so much playing time.
I feel like Tony Jackson wrote something
similar last year at this time and then just repurposed it. What about DeWitt this spring and what the Dodgers have said about him has made Tony Jackson think he may not make the team?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Well, Torre said he would announce his second baseman pretty much right after they got back from Taiwan. But he hasn’t yet. That indicates some doubt, at least to me.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Tony Jackson just reported
that Russ Ortiz will be 5th starter and Ramon will be in the pen.
Thoughts?
Is this confirmed or is it his opinion?
My thought is I hate it.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I’ve had this dream. It ends when the Angels win the World Series and I wake up screaming.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
“Tony Jackson just reported…” is the wrong choice of words for that. He answered a chat question with his opinion, based on things he has heard.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah seriously
that was Tony Jax opinion, not based on any real factoid yet. We can save the vitriol for the actual announcement. ;-)
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All he has is what the coaches are saying, which is the same type of praise that was given to Kershaw, leading everyone to believe CK would be the opening day starter.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Olney on Padilla starting opening day
“It tells you where they(dodgers) are at developing their own players.”
link?
So i can post a rant-y comment. ;-)
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This is who I think of when I hear "what Buster thinks about the Dodgers"
;-)
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Only about a dozen of you predicted this was going to happen. If only you all were as good at your NCAA brackets.
by KellyStephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Poor Yankee fans
Fighting over the recent decision to name Hughes as their 5th starter and move Joba to the bullpen. If only we could be so unfortunate to have a problem like that.
vr, Xei
I haven't been following
Is Joba just not the star the Yankees thought when they implemented the frequently commented on Joba rules?
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
They just
have two very good fifth starters. Both of which would also make a great late inning setup man. Yankee fans are pissed because they feel Joba is getting his chain yankeed with the flip flops from the pen to the rotation back to the pen again.
vr, Xei
We did, it was Elbert/McDonald, and then Torre went ‘lol no.’
by Tripon on Mar 25, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh heh, yeah. I’m all young and unknowledgeable so I ain’t got much to say when people aren’t playing baseball in front of me.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
In other news, Andruw Jones just texted Torre, congratulating him on the Padilla selection. :)
by silverwidow on Mar 25, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I love Spring Training announcers
We just went from the Dodgers taking a 1 – 0 lead, to the Dodgers tying it up 1 – 1, to the Dodgers going up 2 – 1, all with Andre at bat!
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
Dodgers making Jeff Suppan look bad
Which isn’t an impressive feat, mind you. but having some good at bats.
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DeWitt
As much as I want to argue that DeWitt is a sure thing for the opening day roster, I can see some rationale for it if it’s been determined he’s not ready defensively.
I guess
but the pudgy Belliard can not really be expected to do better then DeWitt defensively.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Which is why it seems weird when Torre says things like “DeWitt isn’t going to be Orlando Hudson or Ronnie Belliard defensively, but he will hold is own.”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
When everyone hates someone
I’ll usually try to find some rationale to support the hated one. After spending about 1/2 an hour trying to write a good reason why Russ Ortiz should be given a chance I’ve come up empty.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe we’re hoping lightning will strike twice and he’ll be this year’s Randy Wolf?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We paid Wolf 8 Million to be Randy Wolf
we would be paying Ortiz to pitch like Ortiz and that would not be good.
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Does Molly really know anymore
about the Dodgers then you do or do we care what she says because she wears a skirt and is cute?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Mar 25, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
She’s a solid reporter who has spent more time with the players than all of us combined, and at the very least offers a fresh perspective on the team, much better than anything coming out of local or national radio about the team on most days.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
thx
I’m surprised I’ve never heard of her. No love for Billz
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just because I’m affiliated with this blog, but I would take the analysis of you or Phil over somebody who “spends time with the team” anyday. The amount of time/access people get is pretty much a nonfactor for me these days. I have no problem with the analysis that outlets like TBLA, DT, and MOKM provide even though it is done from the comfort of their basement.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would probably be a mistake
I would not underestimate the value of access.
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Really?
There is a school of thought that believes access corrupts. The analysis becomes less pointed as one’s desire to keep and hold the access becomes a consideration.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand that point
and it may be right, but it was written by bloggers who never believed they would get access and so they downplayed the importance of it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So does that mean Gurnick > Jon or Eric, because he has more access? I don’t think so.
I’d rather read someone with the work ethic and drive to put out the best content possible.
I think you can combine both
like the dude who got laid off last spring. All these rumors you guys like to drool over are provided by that access.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It doesn't have to be either/or
Without the reporting of the beat writers, our access to information would be much slower.
As someone who got access, I can say it made me a better blogger/writer, in that it at least offered a new perspective.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fine
But your post above played on Molly’s merit being the amount of time she spent with the players and that time put her on a different level than you and Phil. That’s what I disagreed with. Access, in and of itself, is not a qualification.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I was more responding to the “who is Molly” question, and why we should care.
It’s someone talking about the Dodgers, who isn’t offering the same usual tripe. That’s worth listening to.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
On a related note
It has to be weird for someone like Molly or Jon to check out the comments on TBLA and see that they personally were a topic of conversation.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It was OK…I got partially cutoff because Firefox crashed on me, but it is hard to get good points across when Siciliano and Thompson are asking the questions.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Kind of my point Eric
I yet to hear anything on radio that was worth my time even when you or Jon are on because the questions are pointless.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Bloggers asking Bloggers questions
are much more interesting. For example if you had told me that you were going to interview Molly, my ears would have perked up. When you keep mentioning that Molly was going to be on ESPN, they stayed in the lowered position.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Maybe we can have her on when we finally start our TBLA podcast!
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved when Eric was asked about Mark Lorretta
On that one show a month or so ago. And Jon got asked about Eric Gagne two weeks ago.
Frankly, most interviews are not very revealing.
I think I'm going to start a 20 questions with Eric
to see if I can ask questions that would illuminate the information that Eric has.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The best a host could do when asking questions is to not ask leading questions. Those reveal more about the host(s) than the guest. Open ended questions like “If you could pick a player who…” or “who is the one Dodger…” would let the guest reveal more about himself or herself and the information they have, and undoubtedly make for a better interview.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Then we get to the point were a Plaschke Paragraph® looks like a normal one.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
In Soviet Russia, the Enter key presses Plaschke!
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t wait to see how this section of the comments looks on my phone.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
FYI
No blogspot on opening day or the Yankee series.
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I hope I get that season credential then!
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It's fair
but a lot of us do listen to sports radio, just to pass the time. And since many were already listening, I thought I would point it out.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I have such a high opinion
of you that I’m glad you listen to sports talk radio. You needed to be dropped a rung.
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If it makes you feel better (or worse?), I often feel conflicted when doing so :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it gives her the ability to write
personal pieces not analysis like we do.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
One thing it does and Eric can comment on perhaps
I read it all the time on Dodger sites and other team sites about beat writers not asking tough questions.
Well, Eric can tell you that (at least what he tells me) is that Torre will answer questions but there is a point where he is just not going to give an answer. And if you keep asking questions, he is not going to answer (or not answer to the degree you want him to), you begin to turn into, well TJ Simers.
I've yet to hear
Joe not answer a question and I’ve been to about five of those gigs. It is hard to ask tough questions in a dugout full of baseball players you may want to ask a question to later. Doesn’t play well to ask why Hudson is not playing when Orlando is five feet away.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Care to link me to any of this fresh perspective?
So I understand what you are talking about. The best Molly story I’ve seen is when she broke down what each player uses for their song and why. It was great.
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by Phil Gurnee on Mar 25, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Her article in the Maple Street Press 2010 Dodger Annual (on Kemp and Ethier) was the best written thing in the entire publication.*
*outside of the 2009 in review of course :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
There were a few stellar player profiles and a great history piece about the 1980 season.
Thanks for the heads up
because I’ve yet to read anything else by her about the Dodgers.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Who's Molly?
still trying to figure out who Molly is…and going back to Russ Ortiz – he reminds me of Brett Tomko, a sucky pitcher who never goes away.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
She writes for ESPN and apparently hates Chad Billingsley (kidding.)
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
National Writer
who openly roots for the Dodgers
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I've always liked this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_d7Y0kfuc&feature=player_embedded
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
from a distance
Molly looks hot! And she can hit!
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
She's a freelance reporter who writes for ESPN the Magazine
And she wrote a really good article about Matt Kemp and Andre Either in the 2010 Maple Street Press Dodger Annual.
I don’t know if she “knows more” but she spent a week in Arizona covering the Cactus League and she spends her time interviewing players and observing games.
I would say she knows as much on some stuff and probably not the details on who is lined up to play second for the Great Lakes Loons.
Playing time forecasts
If you need some time to kill, The Book Blog is looking for team specific fans to forecast playing times for the players on their team. Here is the link to the Dodgers forecast page.
vr, Xei
padilla?
did i just read a comment saying padila is opening day starter..?
Try reading the top article here, on DT or on Dodgers.com
the comments are again, comments on the article or a game thread.
I wonder
…if making Padilla the OD starter is Torre sending a signal to McCourt and Coletti. “You said you were going to get an [ace].” Segue to “We don’t really have a no. 1, they’re all [pretty] good.” So take Padilla.
No, they might as well might not
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
We do realize
That Padilla is the road opener, and Kershaw is going to pitch opening day at home. Isn’t that the greater honor?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
yes
but i would have rather gave opener to kuroda or bills..
but it doesnt really matter
as long as russ ortiz is not the fifth starter
No
and it is strange the so many are trying to make it seem like that is the case. Would the Dodgers have chosen Claude Osteen to start instead of Koufax or Drysdale if they started on the road? Not bloody likely.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Didn't Schmidt open last year
This is typical of Torre, isn’t it?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Schmidt got the home opener in 2007. Lowe was opening day in Milwaukee
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah I dunno what I was thinking, it was Kuroda/Billingsly last year. Hey, home come the Dodgers are opening up on the road two years in a row?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Because they gave us
a choice of the Phillies at home or the Pirates on the road:)
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
ha
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Mar 25, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If we had Granick
this would be a moot point.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
At what point does the “I wear my sunglasses at night” song not become funny anymore when the Brewer RF steps to the plate? Because I haven’t reached full saturation yet.
Such as
In Soviet Russia, opening day starts you!
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Neither access nor a lack of it makes you a great writer about the Dodgers
The more information you have and the better use you make of it does. So it’s not an either/or.
Molly’s very sharp and all I can say about her Chad tweet was that I thought it was out of character.
Meanwhile, TBLA, MOKM, MSTI and so on … the writers for these sites are as sharp as they come, and I don’t think increased access would harm that.
It harmed me
I don’t have nearly as much fun as I used to writing Ned fiction.
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by Phil Gurnee on Mar 25, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well
It looks like Towers is out of the running.
I was actually about to comment about how quietly
well he’s been pitching before he gave up 2 runs that inning. But that shouldn’t take away from what was a pretty solid effort. He made it through 5, had a great 2nd 3rd and 4th, looked better to me than Russ Ortiz anyway. ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Five Innings, Five hits, 0 walks, 3 earned runs
If our fifth starter could do that every fifth day I think we’d take it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yes
But It doesn’t seem to be enough this spring.
Interesting contrast
between Russ and Josh. One guy walks the ton and might have the highest walk ratio in this decade while the other is very hittable but has a very low walk rate. I’d prefer Josh over Russ in a heartbeat but Josh doesn’t have the Giant cache that Russ has.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
On the other hand
Joe Torre has seen alot of Josh Towers in the past and maybe he likes him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Broxton pitching next…I wonder if they are already transitioning Ramon O to a bullpen role (with a shorter outing today).
Hopefuly all this Russ Ortiz talk becomes a moot point
Regarding Gaudin
3:01pm: The Dodgers are in too, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. The D’Backs are not interested, tweets Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I appreciate your choice of the word muncher as the verb.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So where would people rank Gaudin
with the other 5th starter candidates? Besides ranking ahead of Russ Ortiz, which is a given. ;-)
Below Stults and Ramon Ortiz? Or on par?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
For me
he is number one but I won’t give my reasons unless he actually becomes a Dodger.
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Ahead of all, slightly so over Stults IMO
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Favorite to be 5th starter
His numbers are pretty decent
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw him pitch when on the Yankees
vs. the A’s and he seemed pretty decent to me. A little erratic, but who isn’t, when a #5 starter. I’d rather them do this then even consider either Ortiz. And Stults seems destined to not get a chance. Maybe he’ll be big in Japan.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Someone just yelled
“We want the beard back!” as Blake is at the plate. Hee.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm going to refrain
from any Victorville jokes for atleast 10 minutes. Kind of like a cooling down period, so I don’t say anything to put myself into the bad favor of the author(s).
vr, Xei
I was happy since I was listening to sports talk radio :)
(actually I was in Arizona)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s the only knowledge I have of Victorville as well. Driving through it on my way to Vegas.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ve never stopped and hiked through Tumbleweed National Park?
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Mar 25, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Guys, the bad news is that I have two, yes two!, siblings living in that hellhole neck of the woods. So I get to travel there more than any of you ever will…
by KellyStephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Not clear on how this works
If we did sign Gaudin. Would he have to clear waivers to get sent down?
Unless we sign him to a minor league contract.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yeah
I assumed he meant after he was on the 25-man
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, I was trying to answer the question of if he were signed now, would he automatically be on the 25 man or would the Dodgers get a chance to look at him in the minors first? The answer to that question is it depends on the contract he signs.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there are enough suitors where he wouldn’t have to sign such a deal, but I could be wrong. Maybe they could entice him with a higher base once he is called up or something like that, or maybe more incentives.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I could see the Dodgers hesitation to just sign him and hand over a spot to him on the 25 man without getting a chance to work him out, etc.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
They could still work him out; I doubt he would object to that.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say he might be a long shot to get signed (by L.A.). Just because most of the contenders are still pitching well.
I’m more interested in Gaudin than I was with Wang, especially considering (what I assume is) the price point.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Gotta figure Gaudin doesn’t have the leverage to earn his $2.95 million, or else someone would have claimed him. He would need to earn ~$2.2m or so to get his full salary, and I doubt he gets that.
I bet he ends up signing something like $1-1.5m base with incentives based on starts or innings.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Mark Timmons of LADodgerTalk.com is in the press box this week. He tweets:
Russell Martin was 2-2 with a double – 4 innings with no problems and a runs scored
RE: Gaudin
I have seen some sources report that since he was released he will receive a quarter of his $2.95 million arbitration-fueled salary, or $737,500. That’s not technically true. The season is 183 days long, and being cut now (within 15 days of opening day) means you get 45 days termination pay. For Gaudin, that is $2.95m / 183 × 45 = $725,410.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Loney just made quite a double play
reach and grab, touch 1st, swing around and fire to 2nd. Not as incredible as Steiner made it sound but pretty nice.
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That double play made everyone around me wonder what was so loud. Then I turned my speakers down a tad.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
when people say how a first baseman "needs" to hit more home runs
I just hope that they realize most first baseman can’t do that.
He means other first basemen can’t make that play in the field.
I’d rather have the homeruns. Bloggers dig the long ball.
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, exactly
I wasn’t making the point that he’s somehow better than those guys because of his defense, but that it should at least be considered when the topic inevitably turns to Loney’s lack of power. Hopefully, it’ll all be moot soon, as Road Loney decides to show up at Chavez Ravine this year!
Thanks for the translation
I thought….
that = home runs
instead
that = defensive play mentioned in previous post.
vr, Xei
lol
I probably should’ve italicized "that’ to make it clearer. Well, either way, nice to see the editors are on the watch! :)
Sucks that he's missing?
(Sorry, the 100th person to make that joke. Do I win a prize?)
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Lucky
he didn’t put it to a group vote:)
by meercatjohn on Mar 25, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's up with heager?
Is going to pitch in minor league games all spring?
From the Dodgers
Assuming Russell comes in with no symptoms, he will catch 6 innings and lead off every inning for 6 AB’s in the AAA game at CBR tomorrow
Must suck if you never get to leadoff as a AAA guy :)
Speaking of Victorville
don’t they have that kick ass In N Out off the freeway on the way to Vegas? I remember it as the first In N Out that you could go inside.
The line there always seems too long. The one you are thinking of is off Main Street in Hesperia. There is a new one, off the Roy Rogers Drive exit (go one block west) if any of you are so inclined.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s more of a natural preserve, really
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
might be one of the only Big Boy’s in existence.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s a new one in OC now as well.
And the one off the 10 on the way to the “other” desert.
by KellyStephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Big Boys will always have a place in my heart
with the memories of the Big Boy Burger and the thing they call a shake that is really just one big ass thick lump of ice cream after a little league game.
There’s still one in Torrance. I think what happened is the parent company went bankrupt and all the little ones just became defacto independent fast food places.
Me too. I worked for at a car dealership for a summer in high school. I was in the parts dept, my dad ran the front office. We’d drive to and from work every day, and at least once a week he’d take me to a Bob’s down the street. The Big Boy combo, chili size, and chili and spaghetti were my favorites.
by KellyStephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a new one in Northridge as well.
Phil, you can catch a little nostalgia there. Corbin and Nordhoff, by Target.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
There was an alledged plot in high school by me and few of my compadres to cut the bun off of a Bob statue. Luckily, the plan never got fully baked and was never executed.
That would have been hard to explain to the peeps.
by KellyStephen on Mar 25, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
There's one in Baker
in case you get hungry on the way to Vega$.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Jamie Carroll's solid spring performance
is making me kind of nervous. I can imagine Torre either making some comment about how he looks “comfortable” at the plate, or how DeWitt does not look “comfortable” in the field. With all the delays this spring on everything from his contract to his opening day starter to his 5th pitcher to his bench players, is there any reason that the fans should be “comfortable” that DeWitt knocking the cover off the ball has earned him his rightful place as the starting second baseman?
Even if Dewitt does start opening day. He’s going to have to continue hitting well. If he wants to stay there. Same for Carroll if he gets the nod. I think 2nd might look a lot like the #5 starter position this year, a carousel. Hope not though.
you're probably right
If DeWitt had a lousy spring, or even a so-so one, I would understand him not getting the job right away. But the fact that Torre has taken so long on even THIS decision, which seems so clear cut compared to the rest, isn’t a great sign.
Of course, not starting DeWitt wouldn’t be unprecedented, as we saw with Loney and the previous administration. However, Jamie Carroll and Ronnie Belliard are NOT Nomar Garciaparra (even the ‘07 version), so hopefully, it’ll be different this time.
I still think Carroll is a utility guy either way, and the “starting” 2B job is between DeWitt and Belliard, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
With a lefty pitching for the Pirates April 5, DeWitt probably won’t start even if he makes the roster.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 3:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
From Dodgers.com
“That’s just my strength, going the other way,” Martin said. “I stayed short, my swing feels good.”
That sound promising.
Fun fact of the day
Mccourts sons get paid more by the dodgers each year than Clayton kershaw.
by LA Taco on Mar 25, 2010 4:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
KSPN 790
Steve Mason just gave a tease about J. McCourt making noise. Anyone hear anything (I’m not in my car anymore)?
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Rookie
Is this the silent treatment a rookie gets when he gets his first hit? ;)
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I’ll respond….
I wasn’t listening :)
by Michael White on Mar 25, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t mean to twist your arm.. but thanks.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you guys knew everything, y’know with the tweets and all.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
What kind of noise does this refer to?
Is she going to primal scream therapy?
I hope that’s not coming out of Dodger payroll! ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I don't know
I guess that’s why they call it a tease.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Mar 25, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Mason and Ireland?
Probably the same crap we’ve already read about everywhere else.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
What a surprise
Fangraphs.com puts the Dodgers franchise at 14 in their current team series. The Dodgers current and future talent apparently makes them 14th best at being able to win now and in the next few years.
I call total bullshit on that. I in no way expect a top 5 ranking, but not being in the top 10 is completely ridiculous, and they put Cleveland in front of the Dodgers…just wow.
There was some talk of that on DT as well today
It seems that no matter what your worries about the Dodgers, and some of those may be founded, some are unfounded, putting the Cleveland organization ahead of them basically ruined any point that may have been made from that article. In other words, I agree, that is beyond ridiculous. It’s actually embarrassingly ignorant for them
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Basically
that’s what it feels like they based their decision on. Which is pretty faulty reasoning, to say the very least.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Personally, I'm starting to suffer from "The Curse of Carlos Santana" fatigue
I’m as outraged as anyone about McCourt’s unwillingness/inability to part with a mere $2 million instead of a top-flight prospect, and think that long-term, the story shouldn’t die. But right now, this whole thing is getting to be a bit much. We’ve had our first solid 3rd baseman since Adrian Beltre for a year and a half and counting, and for all the potential promise of Carlos Santana (aka “The One”), he is STILL not major league ready! And yet, the way the tale has been spun by so many in the media, the Indians are the ones with all the promise along the horizon, while the Dodgers’ have been left in tatters, thanks to a) The Divorce and/or b) Ned Colletti’s fetish for veterans.
Well, the last time I checked, the Dodgers, faults and all, managed to almost make the World Series two years in a row, and have the same team together this year, hoping the third time’s the charm. When the Indians were in a similar position, they decided to dismantle their whole team, and start from scratch. Until we see evidence to the contrary, they haven’t gotten any closer.
by sarcastro9 on Mar 25, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wholeheartedly
rec this sarcastro-ness.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
AT LAST
Actual, certified green! Based on the infinite monkey theorem, it was bound to happen sooner or later. :))
You would think people at Fangraphs might realize all the bs talk about our rotation problems is in fact that, bs. But no. 14th.
There are 7 teams I would put ahead of the Dodgers for sure (well, one is borderline), then 2 that would be on the same level as the Dodgers, then every other team would be behind the Dodgers.
Rays, Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Braves, Rangers, and perhaps Rockies should be ahead of them.
Angels and Brewers should be on the same level.
There is no way the Mariners should be ahead of them, because they’ve got no farm system minus a couple big guys right now, and their team is going to struggle to score runs because their offense is as bad as the Giants. We both know Cleveland shouldn’t be ahead of them. I think they’ve got Minnesota ahead of the Dodgers, which I don’t agree with but I wouldn’t have a huge problem with.
I swear if we still had Carlos Santana he would be ranked like 80th out of all prospects rather than top 10 or 15.
You know a team doesn’t get to the NLCS two years in a row by accident. 2008 wasn’t the best year for the Dodgers in the regular season, but they played very well together as a team after they got Manny and then played incredible in 2009. Shoot.
Just
got in and glad to see we won. Looked like a nice day for hits and not too bad for pitching either. Just one question for Eric,
what does the “vists” in “Brew Crew Vists Blue Crew” mean? Is Spanish?
It means I was too lazy to read my headline!
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Baseball America
Released: RHP Brian Akin, RHP Jhonny Caraballo, RHP Justin Dignelli, RHP Matt Smith, LHP Jon Dutton, OF Travis Vetters
Sorry Phil
jon dutton?
why him? doesnt he have some potential to be good
seemed like he did
so i’m not sure why he was released. Also Dignelli was just drafted in 2009, so they didn’t really give him much of a chance to prove himself.
by Brandon Lennox on Mar 25, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they were night putting with the Dean’s daughter.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I have Butler in my Final 8
in my bracket that I spent 5 minutes on at 3am last Thursday morning. I also have Kansas winning it all, but I think I can still win if West Virginia gets to the final.
Amazingly, I haven’t missed a pick yet in my West bracket. I have Kansas State beating Butler.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I have
been doing brackets for years and i can’t remember ever running through a region without making a mistake. that is impressive.
I’m almost 100% sure it would be my first perfect region ever. Although a game and a half still remains for that to happen.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I am assuming you have WVU beating Kentucky in the regional final. Man I hope you’re wrong. Not trying to be a dick, but no pleasant way to put it…. ;)
I had Wisconsin beating Kentucky tonight.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 25, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Cornell
with a ‘home’ game against Kentucky (an hour away from Ithaca). Great atmosphere in Syracuse.
Cornell with an early lead 10-4.
I “know a guy that is in a pool at work that is worth $750 to the winner” and he has Kentucky winning it all. He really wants KY to pick it up. :)
Doesn’t KY usually make things harder to pick up?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Mar 25, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well done sir
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Usually so. but with there superior talent and well funded players, I am hoping “for my friends sake” that they improve their play. LOL
Belliard weighed in at 208 today.
Contract guaranteed.
Belliard, who is listed at 5 feet 9 in the Dodgers’ media guide, reported to camp weighing 211 pounds.
“I was never worried about that,” Belliard said Thursday. “I worked to drop those two pounds and I’m going to continue to work to try to get to 202, 200 pounds.”
How hard does one have to work to lost two pounds while being quite physically active in the Arizona sunshine for five and one-half weeks?
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