Fifth Starter Showdown as Dodgers Host Mariners
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 12:30 PM PDT
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PrintMariners (9-14-1) at Dodgers (8-11-2)
1:05pm, Camelback Ranch, Glendale, AZ
Vin Scully is back on the air today, calling the game from Camelback Ranch on KCAL, as the Dodgers host the Mariners. Fifth starter candidates Charlie Haeger and Russ Ortiz will pitch for the Dodgers.
Haeger sure sounds like the favorite for the fifth starter, especially given this from manager Joe Torre:
Haeger could go five or six today, we’re not concerned about building up his endurance. He’s done a good job and handled everything we’ve thrown at him. He can dominate a game when that thing’s working. He talked with Charlie Hough about how to pitch in certain environments. Florida should be fine, he said he enjoys pitching indoors too.
Emphasis mine. The fifth starter will likely pitch April 10 in Florida.
If you would have told me a few months ago that Garret Anderson would talk about his former Angels' teammate Ramon Ortiz, and that both players would likely end up on the opening day roster for the Dodgers, I wouldn't have believed it. However, here we are, per Dylan Hernandez's profile of the pitcher for the LA Times:
"He was basically a two-pitch pitcher back in the days," said Anderson, referring to Ortiz's fastball and slider.
Anderson said he's also seen a change in Ortiz's approach.
"He's more mature," Anderson said. "He's figured out: ‘This is what I've got and I'm going to make the best of it.' When he was younger, he was more all over the place, trying to do too much, being afraid of contact. I don't see that anymore."
Anderson's roster spot seems a lock now, since his competition for the left-handed pinch hitter role, Doug Mientkiewicz, has left camp. "I had a talk with Doug Mientkiewicz yesterday and told him it doesn't look like he'll make the team with Anderson around," said Torre, "I told him I'd love to have him around, but he'll take a day to think about his options."
It's looking like Hong-Chih Kuo will start the season on the disabled list, as Ken Gurnick of MLB.com reported yesterday. Assuming Kuo doesn't pitch in any remaining major league spring training games, the earliest date Kuo can be retroactively placed on the DL is March 26, meaning the earliest he can pitch is April 10 in Florida.
Also from the Gurnick article, we have the dates for the out clauses by which several non-roster invitees will be granted free agency if they aren't added to the 25-man roster:
| Player | Date |
| Mientkiewicz | April 2 |
| Anderson | April 4 |
| Nick Green | April 4 |
| Ramon Ortiz | April 4 |
| Jeff Weaver | April 4 |
| Justin Miller | May 1 |
| Josh Towers | June 15 |
Spotted around the Dodger clubhouse: Manny Ramirez wearing a t-shirt with the phrase "I've got 99 problems but my swing ain't one."
Here are the lineups:for
| Mariners | Dodgers | |||
| RF | Ichiro | SS | Furcal | |
| 2B | Figgins | CF | Kemp | |
| 1B | Kotchman |
RF | Ethier | |
| LF | Bradley | LF | Manny | |
| 3B | Lopez | 1B | Loney | |
| C | Moore | 3B | Blake | |
| CF | Patterson | 2B | DeWitt | |
| SS | Wilson | C | Ausmus | |
| P | Snell |
P | Haeger | |
David Aardsma is scheduled to pitch after Ian Snell for the Mariners.
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I'm on my
Way to camelback. Horrible traffic in the way in.
by LA Taco on Mar 27, 2010 12:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Molly Knight
I just wanted to take a second and sort of defend Molly Knight here. I was part of the original DT conversation that led to her comments aired here in a previous post. While I don’t agree with everything she said, I do respect her right to say it and her freedom to say something casually in an off-hand blog discussion without it turning into a big deal. In the original conversation, I was playing devil’s advocate and just trying to get some “details” from her regarding her position re: Bills. I thanked her for responding [she is a journalist after all and not an armchair GM like me] and felt the conversation was quite civil. I never meant to implicate her in some vast anti-Chad conspiracy. In any event, bygones to all and to all a good ST afternoon.
Well
I guess I can turn off VH1’s top 100 one hit wonders from the 80’s long enough to watch this game….
I know it's a long-shot question but,
Anybody have a stream for this game? Been dying to watch me some Haeger all ST.
Surprised he didn’t get GG last season.
by Julio Nievas on Mar 27, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
U.S.S. Mariner never stopped singing his praises. I always thought his D was amazing in RF for us. I recall one spring training he made several good catches.
All of his advanced fielding numbers last year were sickening. Usually there is some variance with players between the different systems, but every one had Franklin as far and away the center fielder in the game.
by UCLADodger32 on Mar 27, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Some really bad swings being taken against Haeger. Good sign, but his challenge is when the lineup turns over the 2nd and 3rd time.
I suppose it's a good idea
Eye chart has been on 7 teams, has played in every division except the NL central, has faced many pitchers, 11-year career… Why not?
by Julio Nievas on Mar 27, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Milton missing the cutoff
made it easy for Manny to score.
DeWitt with more nice hitting.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
2 things I want
1. Charlie Haeger to be named our #5 starter. I am personally in love with the idea of a knuckeballer in our rotation.
2. The shirt that Manny wore in the clubhouse today.
Vin talking about wrestling is awesome
Not surprised they didn’t use blading back then
On the World Champion Lakers Basketball Network...
Worse Free Agent signing of the winter of 2010 is up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And up and backwards went his bunt attempt.
Tee hee.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Amazing the difference a day makes
I feel like a cloud has lifted if Charlie does indeed win the job. I’d have had a hard time rooting for Russ Ortiz even in Dodger Blue.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
How did the Dodgers score their 2?
Missed the inning. Sounds like Charlie’s got his flutter working.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Strung hits together. Manny, Beard and Dewitt. Ausmus sac fly’d home the second run
by Michael White on Mar 27, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Squeethier.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Nope, that was in her honor
But I’m on Facebook with her, could check and see. Maybe when season rolls around she’ll come back and Squee.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hopefully. It was always nice to a squee from the originator of the squee.
by UCLADodger32 on Mar 27, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Charlie sneaking a fastball in if he can locate it like that. Down and low on the outside corner. Perfect.
Strike out #5!
For hopefully our starter #5 :-)
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I wish I could see this game on TV
Online. Have to listen to Seattle announcers on mlb audio. They’re fine but TV would be fun.
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# dylanohernandez
Same person: “That’s what’s wrong with Twitter. You can’t say anything in the pressbox these days.” 26 minutes ago via web
* Reply
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# Dylan Hernandez dylanohernandez
Overhead in the pressbox as Blake DeWitt singled in the 2nd: “He’s your second baseman. All we have to do is get the old man to admit it.” 27 minutes ago via web
Is the old man Joe Torre, or Tommy Lasorda? :)
Strange isn't is
did you see this quote from Torre?
We’ll make a statement on second base in a few days. DeWitt couldn’t have done anymore that is within his control, he’s done everything he possibly could have done and come through with high marks.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not bad for a guy who Joe
says will struggle in Arizona.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Ha Ha Corey Patterson
Man, he was once going to be the next great thing for the Cubs.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Loney making short work of the Mariners
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Is it possible that if Charlie
gets the gig and Joe actually sticks with him that he could lead this rotation in innings?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He definitely seems like an inning eater to me
which the team has to like. I could see that unless Kershaw and Bills have improved stamina and control (which they might).
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Haeger bats
Which is another good sign for him, I’d say…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Argh, seriously?
I thought he was just out due to pitch count.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Jeez man, don't scare me like that ;)
Never thought I’d care so much about Charlie Haeger’s health!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
All I have is the info from Vin and he hasn’t mentioned a pitch count at all.
Besides, who worries about a pitch count with a knuckle baller?
by Michael White on Mar 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm 99% sure Haeger wasn't hurt
they just wanted to see ortiz come in mid-inning since they are now looking at him a reliever
Ch-ch-changes
Paul, Reed J and Repko, Carroll in at SS, Ellis to catch, besides the doubly aforementioned Monasterios in to pitch. :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I like Monk
even better.
Plus Steiner thinks it’s Montasterios.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Monk struggling with control all of a sudden
Coaches aren’t gonna be happy… Monk is pulled by Honeycutt.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Why pull him?
What sense is there in that. The game doesn’t count Rick.
by Michael White on Mar 27, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
After getting the first 2, bases now loaded for Monk
Get out of the jam of enjoy the bus ride back to Philadelphia AA….
I have to say
I thoroughly enjoyed the two Jack Wilson stories during his PA.
1) Giles & Kendall paying for Wilson’s parents’ airfare to watch him play his MLB debut in Cincy
2) Wilson giving up #12 to Matt Stairs without any prompting
I think Vin mixed up the Dodger Justin Millers. He said this one — the tatted one, in big league camp — was born in 1987, but that’s the other one.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s still spring training for Vinny, too.
by UCLADodger32 on Mar 27, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And for the Mariners announcer
who has messed up the count on Sweeney 2 or 3 times. “The 3-2 pitch, is in there, now 3 and 2.” Now it’s 2 and 2.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I just assumed it was the Miller trying to make the team
not the lower minor guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I had a similar mixup
in Arizona. We got the minor league roster, which is just massive…lots of duplicate numbers.
I saw Justin Miller on it, and my first thought was that the one in big league camp got reassigned. But it turned out it was just the young one :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I hated being on 3rd base with our best hitter up.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I hated playing 3B with the other team’s best hitter up.
Or most RH hitters. :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Nearly a grand slam
Reed J catches it. Not too impressive Justin.. but it worked.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And both will be teammates in Albuquerque?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It is a very low scoring game. K State only has 32 points mid through the 2nd
by Michael White on Mar 27, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
When is Kansas State going to make this game interesting?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
From Peter Gammons (I think):
Andre Ethier will spend Monday afternoon with stricken Bosox minor leaguer Ryan Westmoreland. Bro. adam Ethier is Ryan’s phys. Therapist
He came through the surgery okay didn't he?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
How does it pay off to goto Rice
and get your Arm abused?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think even Japanese teenagers after the Koshien Tournament would avoid pitching for Rice.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I dislike Aardsma
for knocking Aaron off the top of the list
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Go Mariners! :-/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Belliard at 1B
I know the Padilla announcement should make me wary of thinking ahead on any other decisions, but it would be pretty jaw-dropping if DeWitt didn’t get named the starter at 2B, right? It pretty much has to be him at this point.
Logic says yes
Torre says………..WAIT. I think a bonehead roster move is the only thing that keeps him of the 25 man. Where he will start.
Whos's the Mariners other announcer?
He sounds like he’s about 120 years old, makes Vin seem very young. Sloooowwww…. and dottering. Yeesh. The main guy is fine but yikes.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I was listening earlier…isn’t it Dave Niehaus? I’m not familiar with their innings schedule, if they are one of those teams that change it up
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah must be Niehaus
I don’t remember him sounding that ancient.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If that last ball that Reed Johnson would have been a grand slam, that may have awakened him :)
“Swung on and belted! Get out the rye, grandma. It’s grand salami time!”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Well he was literally putting me to sleep
so went back to watching the more exciting basketball game.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Didn't notice this earlier
from Gurnick’s article on Mientkiewicz:
Torre would not confirm that Anderson had made the club but indicated that was only because he hadn’t told Anderson first.
This isn’t a surprise, of course, but this last sentence is interesting.
Torre said he hopes to have a decision on whether the Dodgers will go with 11 or 12 pitchers by Monday
I’ll be shocked if they go with 11 pitchers.
Ah! That hit wakes up the announcer
and is something for members of the ABRuO group to celebrate too!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That woke up Niehaus too!
Maybe he’s not dead after all. Sounded like a terrific play.
Also enjoying listening to Gus-gasms in the NCAA game.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Carroll
certainly looked like he can still play SS right there.
That makes me have to do
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Gus Johnson is revving up.
58-54 Butler. 1:13 left.
I can’t stand what the K State defender just did. Swat that ball out of bounds meat head. That’ll show em. If he does that the other way maybe his teammates grab the ball.
by Michael White on Mar 27, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
yah agreed
though it looked like a Butler guy then stepped out of bounds after that… KSU looks tired right now. understandably.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
and just added.
Belisario was put on the restricted list yesterday.
Good news I guess
When can he officially be on active 25 man if he’s on restricted list to start?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No, he's right
Butler is a 5, and they will play the winner of (5) Michigan St vs (6) Tennessee for the right to go to the final.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 27, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What're the odds this final four ends up used to justify the expansion to 96 teams...
…even though its a horrible example (the fact that its so rare even for the bottom half of the “good” teams to make the final four/elite eight, to say nothing of 9-16 seeds).
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