2010 Player Profile: Jeff Weaver, Back For More?
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 7:30 AM PDT
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PrintJeff Weaver was a great feel-good story of 2009. He was a solid pitcher with the Dodgers for two years, 2004 and 2005, and then struggled pretty much ever since, until he came back to Chavez Ravine. He put up a combined 6.00 ERA from 2006 and 2008, never with a season ERA better than 5.76, including spending all of 2008 in Triple A. Heading into 2009, there wasn't much reason to think Weaver would contribute much to the Dodgers, but he proved to be a valuable swing man.
Weaver was called up from the minors last year on April 30, and ended up making 28 appearances, including seven starts, putting up a 3.65 ERA and a 4.07 FIP. He did have the highest walk rate of his career (3.76 walks per nine innings), but also put up his highest strikeout rate (7.29 K/9), a full strikeout per nine innings better than any other season. His best work came with the bases loaded, allowing just one single in 20 at-bats, allowing opponents to hit .050/.167/.050. The highlight of the season for Weaver was entering Game 1 of the NLDS with the bases loaded and two outs in the fourth inning, inducing a groundout, and preserving the 3-2 lead with another scoreless inning of work after that.
Weaver started against his brother Jered of the Angels last June 20, beating his younger sibling 6-4. Jered had the classic younger brother lament, saying after the game, "He's got the upper hand on me the past 26 years. We're going to laugh about it. It was fun. Hopefully, we don't have to go through it again."
Jeff Weaver returned to the Dodgers this offseason on another minor league deal, hoping for a repeat performance. With a week left in spring training, it appears Ramon Ortiz is this year's Weaver, who was last year's Chan Ho Park. The Dodgers seem to have a knack in recent years for coaxing solid seasons out of pitchers without a recent history of success.
Trivia
Weaver was a Type A free agent after 2005, and after he signed with the Angels, the Dodgers received two compensatory draft picks, which became Bryan Morris and Preston Mattingly. After being traded by the Angels to the Cardinals in July 2006, Weaver put up a 2.43 ERA in five postseason starts, including winning the clinching Game 5 of the World Series against the Tigers.
Contract Status
Weaver signed a minor league deal that will pay him $800,000 if he makes the team, with up to $100,000 in incentives. He can become a free agent if he is not added to the active roster by Sunday, April 4.
2010 Outlook
| Year | Age | IP | BB/9 | K/9 | ERA | FIP |
| 2006 |
29 | 172.0 | 2.46 | 5.60 | 5.76 | 5.47 |
| 2007 |
30 | 146.2 | 2.15 | 4.91 | 6.20 | 5.07 |
| 2008 (AAA) |
31 | 84.2 | 3.19 | 6.27 | 6.17 | 5.33 |
| 2009 |
32 | 79.0 | 3.76 | 7.29 | 3.65 | 4.07 |
| 2010 Projections - Age 33 Season | ||||||
| Bill James | 77.0 | 2.57 | 5.96 | 5.03 | 4.72 | |
| CHONE | 49.0 | 3.12 | 6.98 | 4.22 | 4.30 | |
| Marcel | 80.0 | 3.38 | 6.64 | 4.61 | 4.46 | |
| Baseball HQ | 44.0 | 3.48 | 6.75 | 4.70 | 4.34 | |
| ZiPS | 98.2 | 3.01 | 6.11 | 4.93 | 4.69 | |
| Thanks to FanGraphs and Baseball-Reference.com | ||||||
With the delay of Ronald Belisario, injuries to Hong-Chih Kuo and Cory Wade, and demotions of James McDonald and Scott Elbert, I think Weaver still has a good shot at making the opening day bullpen, reprising his swing man role for a second straight season. I'll guess a 4.66 ERA and 1.411 WHIP in 56 innings.
What is your guess for Jeff Weaver in 2010? Give us a prediction of ERA, WHIP, and innings.
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The Matt Cain deal
He was already under contract this season with an option for next (his final two arbitration years), and was set to make:
2010: $4.25m
2011: $6.25m option, which could increase by $1.9m based on starts and innings
Total: $10.5m, or up to $12.4m
His extension/restructuring:
$1m signing bonus
2010: $4.25m
2011: $7m
2012: $15m
Total: $27.25m
So, essentially they bought out the first year of free agency for at least $14.85m. For doing so two years before they had to, I think the Giants would have been better off either buying out more years or getting a bigger discount.
I hate this deal because it essentially prices us out of Billingsley’s range. They’re very similar talents.
I think the Giants and other teams are crazy
To guarantee that salary when there is no guarantee on the what the market will be in 3 years.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the part of spring training
when I get lost and have no idea how all these roster decisions will shake out. A few weeks ago, I would have bet on DeWitt making the team and Weaver not making the club, but will the daily fluctuations from Torre, I just zone out and wake up when the final 25 man is announced.
As for Weaver, I still don’t think he will make the team out of camp. Weaver has shown that his pride won’t be hurt by starting the year in AAA and earning his way up to the big club and I think that’s what will happen again. I expect a call up at some point, like what happened with him and Milton last year, and fill a swing role when either the named 5th starter gets DFA’d or one of the other pitchers gets hurt.
Prediction: 4.85 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 4.25 FIP in 36 innings and 2 starts.
I agree
It just seems roster decisions seem going in one direction or another, and just when we think we have a feel for everything, something comes out of the blue to surprise us. Someone like Justin Miller and Luis Ayala are prime candidates to surprise us by being on the opening day roster.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Weaver was pretty adamant about not starting in AAA this year. I think he’ll leave if he doesn’t make the roster.
His call I suppose. I can’t imagine there would be a huge market for his services elsewhere, especially since he spent all of camp with LAD. His agent would have a better beat on that then I would, but I don’t see the upside in Weaver being so adamant against starting in AAA, especially since the Dodgers were able to promote him last year where he stayed on the 25 man the rest of the year. Not sure he can do better. Either way, I won’t lose sleep over it.
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Another factor in a potential lack of interest in Weaver is that, even though these are spring stats, to be taken with a grain of salt, he has just one strikeout in seven innings this spring.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't notice this last night
George Sherrill was scheduled to pitch tonight against Cleveland, but per Gurnick “has been scratched to continue working on his mechanics in bullpen sessions.”
We could really have a problem on our hands if Sherrill doesn’t come around. Even as strong as our bullpen is, I don’t know that it can withstand an injured Kuo, Bellisario in time-out, and an ineffective Sherrill.
Ramon Troncoso may have to channel Mike Marshall (the doctor, not the general). :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Opening day in Pittsburgh
What we do know is that Akinori Iwamura will beat leadoff for the Pirates, followed by Andrew McCutchen, per Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.
Also, the Pirate pitchers will hit eighth a lot of the season, with Ronny Cedeño batting ninth.
He lays an egg
5.80/1.60 in 28 innings, 1 start.
Outright released in May. Dodgers should have plenty of depth to cover when Belisario is ready, Kuo is healthy, and when JMac regains some confidence and control in AAA. Also, either the signing of a Pedro or a midseason trade for a pitcher is inevitable.
I know TBLA will do this soon but just for the record
And this is for entertainment purposes.
bhsportsguy21 (3/29/2010 at 9:24 AM)
The Dodgers, backed by a surprising Rookie of the Year performance by Chris Withrow, go 96-66 to win their 3rd consecutive NL West crown. James Loney, who had a career high 22 home runs, hits a the game-winning walk-off home run against K-Rod to send the Dodgers to NLCS to face Cardinals. After Broxton strikes out Pujols and the Cardinals late season acquisition, Matt Stairs, the Dodgers are propelled to their first World Series since 1988. And finally, on an 8th inning error by Adrian Beltre, the Dodgers win the World Series behind Manny Ramirez, who was named World Series MVP despite having to removed from the game after being pelted by trash by the Boston faithful
Biggest shocker in there for me
is us playing the Mets in the NLDS.
by CarolinaDodger on Mar 29, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like somebody...
… posted his April Fool’s Day joke a couple days early.
You are the anti-D4P
and your new nickname will be the “Antidote”.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Just spitballing
but here is my guess how the rotation looks to be shaping up for the final week:
Today – Kuroda in minor league gm; Billingsley tonight
Tuesday – Towers
Wednesday – Padilla in one game, Stults/Russ Ortiz in the other
Thursday – Haeger (perhaps Russ Ortiz would tag team pitch here instead of Wednesday)
Friday – Kershaw
Saturday – Billingsley & Kuroda
Sunday – off
April 5 – Padilla (4 days rest)
April 6 – off
April 7 – Kershaw (4 days rest)
April 8 – Billingsley (4 days rest)
April 9 – Kuroda (5 days rest)
Kershaw is for sure on the 13th. The 10/11 order hasn’t yet been announced.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t really matter which order they choose for the April 10/11 games, because either way Padilla will be pitching with 5 days rest once, and 6 days rest another time, because I don’t think they will skip Kuroda:
Apr 5 – Padilla
Apr 6 – off
Apr 7 – Kershaw
Apr 8 – Billingsley
Apr 9 – Kuroda
Apr 10 – Padilla
Apr 11 – Haeger
Apr 12 – off
Apr 13 – Kershaw
Apr 14 – Billingsley
Apr 15 – Kuroda
Apr 16 – Padilla
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Assuming no weather delays in the east during the first week.
by KellyStephen on Mar 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
WEAVER
ERA 3.15 S.O. 7 PER 8 INNINGS 3 WALKS PER 8 INNINGS 76 INNINGS PITCHED
4 STARTS IN 2010
by California Mobile CPR on Mar 29, 2010 11:12 AM PDT reply actions
Clayton Kershaw chimes in
on just how many opening days there are. From Tony Jackson:
As far as Clayton Kershaw is concerned, there is only one Opening Day. And the seventh game of the season isn’t it.
“I don’t think so,” the Dodgers left-hander said Sunday, just after he turned in his longest and arguably best Cactus League performance this spring in a 2-1 victory over the Cincinnati Reds before 6,970 at Goodyear Ballpark. “Opening Day is Opening Day. That is an honor I think every pitcher would like to get, and hopefully, I will get that one day.”
He’ll get it next year, when the only two locks on the staff are him and Bills.
by silverwidow on Mar 29, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently, Clayton didn't realize that he was opening on
Broadway while Vincente was opening in Hartford.
Seriously, I am glad someone pointed that out.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant to transcribe that wonderful note by Vin, but I deleted the broadcast off my DVR before I remembered to do so. :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Eric fainted when
Vin was talking about ox blood.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously!
I read Plaschke this weekend standing in front of a urinal, good place to read it.
I would rather have Clayton start the home opener. Am I the only one that thinks it is more important than a road game in PIT?
by robotmadeofnails on Mar 29, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Opening day happens once per season.
This year happens to be in Pittsburgh.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't agree that home opener is more meaningful
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Meaningful or not
What I think is getting overrated by pundits is the significance of Padilla named as the opening day starter. It does not equal Padilla being the Dodgers #1 starter, and I really don’t think they view him that way. That’s what bothers me. The Dodgers are looking at the logistics and schedule of the first two weeks of the season, and they wanted to give Padilla a jolt of confidence, is my guess. I still think Kershaw or Kuroda should’ve gotten the nod. (And Billingsley can use that jolt of confidence, of faith, too.) But I really think it’s made out to be more significant than it is.
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Another fail:
The Dodgers have an $83M payroll. They couldn’t offer salary arbitration to Jon Garland and Randy Wolf because ownership didn’t want to pay for additional Draft picks
Yes, we were all upset about losing that draft pick for Garland. It wasn’t Orlando Hudson at all.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
he said that on TV too
so I don’t think it’s a mistake, it’s what he believes. Or he just writes it down once and forgets about it.
I suppose it is factually correct, since Garland was in fact a Type B free agent, but then again we had several other Type Bs so it’s curious they weren’t mentioned.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
How is he coming up with 83M?
Is he not counting deferred salary? If he’s not is he doing the same for everyone? If he is I have no problem.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Mar 29, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with not counting deferred salary is that, like BH said, it would also require to say Manny is getting something less than $20 million this year. But since he isn’t counting deferred money, he presumably also wouldn’t do so in future years. So that money to Manny never gets counted, even though it is very much a part of future payroll, just as Andruw Jones, Juan Pierre, et al, are a part of the 2010 payroll.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The only way that’s true is if you don’t count dead money. But then you would have to do the same for all 30 teams.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, I think you have to say Manny is only getting $5M of his $20M this year
Or something like that.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
If he's not counting dead money for all 30 teams
then I dont’ have a problem, it would be comparing apples to apples. As long as he applies the same criteria to everyone.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Mar 29, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
As every team's rotation comes into focus
the idea we are any thinner then other contenders is going to prove a hard sell. At least in the NL.
Cubs just named Carlos Silva as their fourth starter and Gorzalanney as their fifth.
Phillies are going with the oldest pitcher in the NL as their fifth
Will be writing up a story on this as more teams name their rotations.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So true
the media gets a storyline and runs with it until it’s demonstrably not true, not when it’s not really true, or when by comparison there’s no there, there. The storyline is that the Dodgers are thin when it comes to pitching so that’s what you keep reading.
I have no problem with the storyline
that we are thin. Any team using Padilla / Haegar and considering Russ Ortiz is thin, just a problem with the idea that our thin pitching is unique to the contenders when it seems to be problematic for everyone not part of the AL East.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Mar 29, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year, only 40 pitchers had 160+ IP.
There were only 117 pitchers with 20 or more starts; 67 with 30 or more starts.
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ex Dodger minor Leaguer
Scott Strickland cut by Marlins for last spot. Kind of interesting story as he keeps getting close but no cigar.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Any read on who is getting the 7th inning with Kuo down? I would guess the only two candidates are Tron or Ramon.
I would guess Troncoso is the favorite for that role, with some 6th innings mixed in too for multiple-inning appearances.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Just noticed your avatar change. For the record, I am a Bowersox fan, but Sibohan is the shit, too.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks. I see so much of myself in her (minus the singing talent, of course).
by silverwidow on Mar 29, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I also can’t spell, apparently :)
Siobhan
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
For the most part, I don’t really care what rich people do. It doesn’t really bother me. But the one thing I noticed from today’s McCourt hearing was that “they had hair stylists come to their house every day.”
Every day? Again, I’m not bothered by the cost or spending that money, but I am just wondering how someone could use a stylist every single day. At some point, doesn’t a day old ’do suffice? :)
Of course some people might notice a fan shot on his site
and put his comment in the appropriate thread, :)
by bhsportsguy on Mar 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
If you ever had a reason to pay $39 for Baseball Prospectus Premium
The two-part Logan White interview (part 2 has insights on Dee Gordon, Kyle Russell and drafting philosophy).
The best part
was Logan saying how he gathered all this information and doesn’t share it. A man smart enough to know that his employer today may be his competition tomorrow.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
From Dodger Thoughts
“Another thing I do is keep a private log of certain types of arm actions – the success rates of them. Certain types of deliveries – their success and failure rates. The same with hitters. There are certain things that we will either like or stay away from based on our own statistics of how those have been working over the past 10 or 15 years. I’ve kept these since I was an area scout. Let’s say for example that a guy is a slinger or he has a bad wrist wrap. How many guys have that who have been drafted and signed, that I’ve seen, and have actually made it? And how far? Things like that. I’ve kept pretty good records and I haven’t publicized them, not even to my own staff, but I do utilize that kind of stuff.”
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I think its clear from the article that he and his scouts
As well as the player development people all work around a same set of general principles.
Kyle Russell comments
One of my scouts that I trust is very much a Kyle Russell fan, and there’s that yin and yang where you look at all that other stuff and then you also look at your scouts and piece it all together. When we got to the third round, we just felt that the tools—being able to play defense and hit for that kind of power—were too much to pass up. Plus, we had Billy Mueller, who was a good hitter, in the draft room and I asked him, “What do you think? Can we help him with that uphill swing he’s got? Can we improve it?” He seemed to think that we could. Sometimes you have to have trust in people that they can help with things like that, and I think that if Kyle Russell makes those improvements, he’s got a chance to be a pretty special hitter. I know it’s rare, because there were guys like [Reggie] Abercrombie and different people in the past that I wasn’t big on because it’s tough, when you strike out that much, to get to the power. But I think that Kyle will, and I think that he’ll be able to play center field. He’s really smart and a hard worker with some pretty good aptitude
The thing we have all been betting on
is that he is not the stereotypical free swinger. How many guys have been excellent defenders at the corners and also capable of striking out 150 times while hitting 30 bombs. I’m going to do a spot check but I think he has an unique set of skills. Not one I remember encountering before in the years I’ve watched the Dodger farm system.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not quite
Andruw Jones was busy hitting home runs in his first two World Series at bats at the age of 19. Though I do get the point of the excellent power, excellent athlete, swing and miss approach.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah that was the point
Generally good fielding outfielders with power are also 5 tool players, thus, pretty rare birds.
From MLB Network (per Phil)
FYI, the blackout has been lifted in the Los Angeles Dodgers local television market for MLB Network’s simulcast of the Dodgers at Rockies Spring Training game tomorrow, Tuesday, March 30 live at 4:00 p.m. ET/1:00 p.m. PT. MLB Network will carry Fox Sports Rocky Mountain’s call of the game.
Watching Franklin vs Blake
In the bottom of 9th Game 2 NLDS.
Blake does have the better trimmed beard.
Nick Green
Curious that he’s still around. Hasn’t hit a lick and doesn’t look all that impressive on the field. To me, he’d be good AAA insurance only.
MLB Network games in April
Of course, these are subject to blackout in LA (unlike tomorrow night):
April 8 at Pittsburgh (the dreaded 9:35am start)
April 13 vs Arizona (home opener)
April 22 at Cincy (Thursday Night Baseball)
April 27 at Mets
The first three of those games are on Prime Ticket, while the game in NY is on KCAL
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny that the Dodgers are playing the Reds so often this year (relatively speaking)
When I heard that on the radio the other day, I figured Charlie was having one of his “moments”. But I checked the schedule, and sure enough, he was right! I hope they will be lousy, just to even out the fact that we’re facing the elite teams of the AL, while the Giants get the A’s, Blue Jays and Orioles. (At least our interleague games should be more fun to watch, though.)
Dodger lineup
per Dylan Hernandez:
Furcal SS
DeWitt 2B
Ethier RF
Ramirez LF
Kemp CF
Blake 3B
Ausmus C
Closser 1B
Billingsley P
Closser at 1B? Does Justin Masterson have a “tough arm angle?”
That seems very odd
Why not Anderson at 1st, to see how he handles it? Closser?
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Only thing I can guess is that some vets got the day off (Loney, Belliard, GA)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the story is that starters who play today do not have to go to Tuscon tomorrow
So it will be a lot of minor leaguers on that bus ride
Indians lineup
per Paul Hoynes:
Cabrera SS
Sizemore CF
Brantley LF
Hafner DH
Peralta 3B
LaPorta 1B
Valbuena 2B
Toregas C
Crowe RF
Masterson P
Also from Hoynes, in the “I had no idea he was in Cleveland” department:
INF Mark Grudzielanek (hamstring) says he should be ready to play Wed. Feels good about chances to make club
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Lindblom
won the Jim & Dearie Mulvey Award, given each year to the top rookie in camp.
Gotta love it that he won the award pitching all of four innings in big league camp. Shows how highly he is thought of.
Is Lindblom still in major league camp? I see his name his not crossed off the NRI list on the front page, but I haven’t heard his name (for scheduled pitching performances) in a while.
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think you could check with your myriad of sources
And find out if Mr. Withrow is pitching in the minor league camp?
Speak of the devil
Tuesday in Tucson:
Stults
Lindblom
Troncoso
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Kuroda pitched 7 innings today in a minor league game, allowed one run (a HR) and had 7 Ks. He threw 91 pitches, and Russell Martin caught all of them (he caught 7 innings).
Too bad he is not ready for opening day
Actually, I am just happy the guy looks for the start of the season
Per Gurnick, Martin is not on the travel roster to Tucson tomorrow
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Torre:
I’ll leave him back here tomorrow to get his work in with a lot of the regulars. He’ll get some running in because he didn’t get much in during the game today. He’ll catch Padilla here on Wednesday, him and Ausmus will split that game.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Bullpen as I see it
Broxton
Sherrill
Troncoso
Lindblom*
Ramon
Monk
Weaver
*I’m picking him over J. Miller and Ayala. This assumes Belisario and Kuo as OUT and Link not being considered.
To get Lindblom and Ramon on the 40 man, I believe we already have 1 spot open, and the other is the result of a Haeger/Stults DFA?
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
We have two spots open if you included Belisario on the Restricted list. Wade can also be placed on the 60-day and Stults will likely get DFA’d.
In other words, there’s plenty of room.
Wade is a good one ( I forgot that option) but I am surprised that putting someone on the restriction list removes them from the 40 man. I assumed it was like a 15 day DL trip where it freed up a 25 man spot rather than both 25 and 40.
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Torre says 11 pitchers to start the season
but adds:
I think 12 will be the number for most of the year. We’re going to need a fifth starter four times in April
Dylan Hernandez has the revealing quote from Torre:
“I’d say if we have an 11-pitcher scenario that Blake DeWitt’s chances are better.”
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I find this somewhat insane. DeWitt should/could be the starting 2nd baseman! How is he in jeopardy of losing his spot? Belliard is going to play every day at 2nd base? Or is Nick Green making the team so he can play at 2nd and short?
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yah. Does. Not. Compute.
If Carroll can backup at short and Belliard shouldn’t be an every day starter, than the # of pitchers carried should be irrelevant. DeWitt should be starting. Siiiiiigh.
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Agreed
DeWitt should have a spot if we had 14 pitchers :)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
DeWitt has started 17 games at second
Only Ethier, Kemp and Furcal has started more games. Carroll has started 4 games at second and DeJesus/Belliard have each started once.
If he does not make the team, they sure had a funny way of playing this out during ST.
18 out of 24 AZ games, including tonight.
And two of those off games were due to split squad, so really DeWitt has started 18 out of a possible 22 days.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
The only thing I can think of is the club is not comfortable with Carroll as the backup SS. Therefore the team has to create space for a backup SS (Green) and Carroll and Belliard will split time at 2B.
by Michael White on Mar 29, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems like the most plausible, but there also might still be concerns over DeWitt’s defense.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree. I actually am refusing to read about most of this stuff and will just wait for the official roster to be announced. If, at that time, DeWitt is skipped over to keep someone from the garbage heap on the squad, we all have reason to go nuts over it.
by UCLADodger32 on Mar 29, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Or why Rafael Belliard
= defensive improvement over DeWitt anyway. And Carroll’s good but he’s not going to be an everyday starter.
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Argh I keep doing that
Rafael Landestoy. Ramon Ramirez. Whatever the eff his name is! ;-) That Ronnie dude.
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Must be more of that reasoning
You never know what will happen but Furcal did start 141 games last year. Now some one is going to have to fill in now and then but I think for 2-4 games of month, Carroll might be fine.
based on what was said today, this is how I see the 25 man roster
1 C Russell Martin
2 1B James Loney
3 2B Blake DeWitt
4 3B Casey Blake
5 SS Rafael Furcal
6 LF Manny Ramirez
7 CF Matt Kemp
8 RF Andre Ethier
9 BU C Brad Ausmus
10 Utility Ronnie Belliard
11 Utility Jamey Carroll
12 BU OF Reed Johnson
13 BU OF Garret Anderson
14 BU INF Nick Green
1 SP1 Chad Billingsley
2 SP2 Clayton Kershaw
3 SP3 Hiroki Kuroda
4 SP4 Vicente Padilla
5 SP5 Charlie Haeger
6 Swing Eric Stults
7 CL Jonathan Broxton
8 SU George Sherrill
9 RHP Ramon Ortiz
10 RHP Ramon Troncoso
11 RHP Carlos Monasterios
This would require 3 spots, two of which we already have, and one would be putting Wade on the 60 day DL. This way, we don’t lose anyone through waivers or through a Rule 5 return.
well if they are going with only 11 pitchers
I don’t see how that’s possible. Nick Green seems to be the only other position player they would even consider putting on the opening day roster
by Brandon Lennox on Mar 29, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't see them going with only 11 pitchers
It didn’t happen last year. I guess I will believe that when I see it.
I hope so
I don’t see Stults making team if we carry 11 pitchers. He will get released, pass waivers, end up back in AAA as insurance. I actually don’t see him if we carry 12 pitchers if he is not in the rotation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I could see Stults passing through waivers
Now, he may decide to sign on with another team when he becomes a free agent.
Does he have that right?
I thought he had to do it twice before he could choose? What is the rule on that?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I wouldn’t go so far as to call you a lunatic.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 29, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Has he been outrighted before?
How would you find out if he has? A spreadsheet with option and outright columns would be something an anal blogger might create.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I actually have a similar spreadsheet as you are describing
however, I’ve only started it over the past two years. That being said, he has never been outrighted
by Brandon Lennox on Mar 29, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
A little early
but the game thread is up:
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/3/29/1396044/dewitt-plays-waiting-game-kuroda
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