Russell Martin Out 4-6 Weeks, Might Miss Opening Day
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 9:47 AM PST
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Joe Torre said Russell Martin will miss four to six weeks, and most likely miss opening day. Martin has a groin pull, telling reporters this morning "it’s not anything major." Well, this is something major. In fact, Torre said Martin knew of his diagnosis this morning, but was downplaying it to the media.
A.J. Ellis will replace Martin on the big league roster, and figures to get the bulk of the starts in Martin's absence. "We have to figure out the right balance between A.J. and [Brad] Ausmus," Torre said, "I don't want to run Ausmus into the ground."
Molly Knight of ESPN reported "Torre doesn't know whether 4 to 6 weeks means back to rehab or back to games." Knight also reported that Martin will head back to Los Angeles for more tests in the next few days.
Torre added, "He's not shut down and he can work his upper body. Also, not now, but well before he's ready to come back, he can take BP, we think."
Here are the lineups for today's game, if it's not postponed:
| Dodgers |
Cubs | |||
| LF | Paul | SS | Castro | |
| SS | Carroll | RF | Fukudome | |
| 2B | DeWitt | 1B | Lee | |
| CF | Johnson | 3B | Ramirez | |
| DH | Giles | CF | Colvin | |
| 3B | Green | LF | Soriano | |
| C | Ellis | DH | Soto | |
| 1B | Mitchell | C | Hill | |
| RF | Repko | 2B | Fontenot | |
| P | Kershaw | P | Gorzelanny |
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Scheduled to pitch for the Dodgers are Clayton Kershaw, Josh Towers, Carlos Monasterios, Ramon Troncoso, Travis Schlichting, and Armando Zerpa.
Other pitchers besides Gorzelanny listed in the Cubs pregame notes are Esmailin Caridad, Thomas Diamond, Rafael Dolis, John Gaub, and Mike Parisi.
UPDATE: Today's game has been rained out.
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Projections for Ellis
CHONE: wOBA .320
Marcel: wOBA .321
If these projections are even close, it shouldn’t be that much of a disaster considering Martin had an wOBA of .307 last year. And Ellis is better defensively.
Joe Torre
on potentially making a deal for a catcher:
At this point in time to find a catcher that’s better than AJ would be tough to do. He’s a workaholic and he’ll give you tough at bats. He’s also a good catcher. I have no hesitation with this kid at all.
Yeah, let’s leave that up to the professional panicers here at TBLA.
by KellyStephen on Mar 7, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
heh
Watch this become a lingering injury throughout the entire year.
Not sure how today's rain affects things
but the plan, at least, for Monday is for the Dodgers to pitch Billingsley, Elbert, Lindblom, Dohmann, and Link at Scottsdale (vs. Giants)
I would guess if today’s game is rained out, the pitchers scheduled for today would just throw bullpen sessions instead.
I hope you're right
I can’t wait to see that lineup on the mound
by Julio Nievas on Mar 7, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
don't worry
we have Brad Ausmus, 2010 all star game here we come
This has been a bad sports weekend altogether for LA teams. Since thursday, Kings, Lakers, USC, UCLA all winless in like 7 attempts.
The Clippers also lost on Friday and Saturday.
by Michael White on Mar 7, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Good Luck AJ
Last year we were lucky with injuries so just like the Phillies I expect some pain this year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Joe seems awful confident
in AJ considering he did everything possible not to play him last year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Necessity and desperation tend to do that
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
The other Cubs’ game (at CBR vs CWS) got rained out
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think they are moving the cameras from Glendale to Mesa. From WGN’s tweet:
Looks like today’s Sox vs Cubs game is rained out. Next game on WGN America is Cubs @ Los Angeles, Sunday, March 14 – http://bit.ly/d0T1JR
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, May
Martin will return to the line-up from hernia surgery in May.
by 68elcamino427 on Mar 7, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, Bold Prediction
Martin will have a successful surgery to repair a hernia and will be back in action the 3rd or 4th week in May.
by 68elcamino427 on Mar 7, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Revision
MRI says it’s one of Adductor muscles, which one?
This could turn out to be tricky.
by 68elcamino427 on Mar 7, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
From Dylan Hernandez:
The 4-6 wk window for Martin’s anticipated recovery is “highly unscientific,” Conte said. Could be shorter, could be longer.
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The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
MLB
has the Boston/Oriole game going on, Josh Bell entered in the sixth inning.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They were interviewing him earlier in the game, but I missed it (was pulling a Kobe)
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
spilled milk?
2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Mar 7, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Not according to Stan Conte
from Dylan H:
Trainer Stan Conte said Martin’s injury is nothing like the one that plagued former Dodger prospect Tony Abreu. Abreu’s injury was in the same general area, but involved a far more parts of the groin/abdominal/hip
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
martin sucks.
hopefully 4-6 weeks turns into back around the all star break
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Mar 7, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions
thank you
lets use this as an opportunity to see what this kid has. martin really doesnt impress either off or def. i do think he does a great job bring intangibles to the table that a catcher must. other than that he is average at best…..
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Mar 7, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Ellis is actually older than Martin
So, Russ is the kid….
by Michael White on Mar 7, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
sorry I just had to..
see at 1:50 in
“Sam Malone sings:.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxaQ9cKYQXo
by MammothDodger on Mar 7, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yesterday the 1989 All-Star game was on MLB Network, and Rick Sutcliffe was a late add to the roster. Vin Scully told the story of how Cubs’ employee Ned Colletti called Sutcliffe to tell him he made the team, and even drove to Wrigley Field to get Sutcliffe’s uniform (on short notice). There was a lot of air time for Colletti (or at least the mention of his name)
This Martin injury opens up the door
To acquire joez maures for Elbert, leach, de Jesus and Ellis
by SeanMillerSavior on Mar 7, 2010 12:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I’m guessing with the Granick like spelling, yes
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 12:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes
because Martin’s health was the only thing keeping that deal from happening
by Michael White on Mar 7, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
So the Dodgers source that claimed that Ellis could start the beginning of the season was right!
Also, did 790 KABC stop being the Dodgers broadcaster this year? I tried to listen both today and yesterday, and got crappy talk radio about the housing market.
No radio yesterday, no game today.
by Eric Stephen on Mar 7, 2010 1:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tag Team Monday!
per Dylan Hernandez:
Kershaw, who was scheduled to start today, will pitch tomorrow vs. the Giants in Scottsdale. Billingsley will start tomorrow’s game
They better take this really slow!
This seems like an injury that could linger. If neccesary, have him start on the 15 day DL. No matter what the Martin hatred say, we will need him this year.
Also, I think this is a time for people to see how lucky we are to have Martin. Last season, BA rated him as the 2nd best defensive catche in baseball behind Y. Molina. And even with his horrible offensive year, he was the 7th beat catcher in baseball.
I am sure someone will point to his passed balls/wild pitches. However I think they need to remember who he had to catch last year, billingsley and Kershaw both has stretches where they had no idea where the ball was going. He also had to deal with Belisario, who does not have perfect control at all, Kuo, with his late breaking slider and even Kuroda had games where it was going anywhere.
A couple links.. First, from fangraphs:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/more-on-catchers-fieldingwppb/
Then Chad/Kensai’s take on Martin. Basically, he says his offense was horrible but his defense remained very good, most likely better than what Ellis will give us:
http://www.memoriesofkevinmalone.com/2009/10/2009-season-in-review-catchers.html
Via MOKM, the BA article about defensive tools I talked about above:
http://www.memoriesofkevinmalone.com/2009/08/baseball-america-ranks-best-tools.html
Finally, what I had been looking for, the writeup about Martin’s throwing ability:
http://www.memoriesofkevinmalone.com/2009/05/russell-martin-throwing-ability_16.html
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 7, 2010 1:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bottom Line
Martin has been the catcher for the pitching staff
puttting up some of the best stats in the MLB the past two seasons.
by 68elcamino427 on Mar 7, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Dodgers / Cubs to play "B" game tomorrow at 9:30 at CBR
Probable pitchers:
"B" Game vs. Chicago – 9:30 a.m. on White Sox Practice Field:
LHP Scott Elbert
RHP Josh Lindblom
RHP Ramon Troncoso
RHP Travis Schlichting
RHP Kenley Jansen
RHP Javy Guerra
LHP Armando Zerpa
Dodgers at Giants – 1:05 p.m. in Scottsdale :
RHP Chad Billingsley
LHP Clayton Kershaw
RHP Josh Towers
RHP Carlos Monasterios
RHP Jon Link
RHP Francisco Felix
LHP Juan Perez
Yes, my 1.5 TB external HD just came in. I can back up everything now.
Including the photos of me having way too much good of a time. :O
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