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Thank You for showing up

On a mindless Monday TBLA had 400 comments about a preseason game. For most of  you that is no big deal, for this author, it is the biggest deal. Not the 400 comments per se,  but the rollicking  banter between authors and members.  Jon Weisman author of Dodger Thoughts noted today when our comment volume was being discussed:

I do feel kind of bad, in a really selfish, immature way, in that I feel like I did a lot to build the community that now exists elsewhere.

That community Jon is talking about is you. Some of you have never heard of the "Baseball Toaster" but it was where Eric, Dave, and myself  first learned what it was like to have a community of baseball friends who could  not only discuss the Dodgers intelligently but also other parts of the universe as long as it did not include religion or politics.   A refuge from a mindless day at work, a diversion from life, a place to hang your hat where everyone knows you name. 

When I came to TBLA we were the opposite of the Baseball Toaster. No one read us or of if they did, they rarely commented on what was written. Game threads were dead, given how much work Andrew (prior manager) put into this site  it was remarkable that Andrew didn't say screw it in the middle of the season.  Maybe he simply stopped writing to see if anyone would notice.  I'll be honest even as I wrote at TBLA my heart was still at Dodger Thoughts. What would be the point of commenting on a site where no one responded?  I'd get more reactions to things I wrote for  TBLA at DT then I did on my own site. So did Andrew.  I'll be honest, I  was green with envy. It was a controlled envy because I knew Jon had earned the market share that was Dodger Thoughts. Still from time to time I would allow myself to  dream that someday we could build TBLA to be something akin to the Toaster knowing full well it was simply another one of my dreams that would never come to pass.

Two and half years later I was wrong.  We have a thriving community, I  know all of you, better yet, I like most of you, even better yet, you have made TBLA a place that is fun to hang out at.  Today's game thread didn't have a large number of participants but the ones who did are the ones I enjoy talking with. Each month we get new members, some better then others.  A few months ago a young kid joined called lakersdogersyankes4life who has become a solid member of the community. It is members like Tommy that make writing for TBLA better then I ever expected it could be.

Some time I ago I implored our members to make use of the fanposts/fanshots,  and you responded with such fervor that we could stop writing for a day and we would still have plenty of content. Over the past few months we have asked David and Mike to help with the writing chores at TBLA but we could have asked any number of you because we have such a talented group of commentators. The only difference between you and me is that I was here first. 

So I just wanted to thank all of  you for showing up.

Back to Jon's quote which made me want to write this column.  I understand what he is saying and I do feel bad. I asked Eric Stephen to join TBLA because he was simply the best DT poster out there. Eric is such a prolific writer that he could manage TBLA, make most of our comments, and continue to make most of the DT comments. When you take a way a contributor like Eric it is going to have an impact.   When Jon looks to TBLA he's really looking toward Eric because it has been Eric who has turned the deadbeat TBLA into the community we now all enjoy.  After Eric came aboard he brought along several long time DT posters like El Lay Dave,  BHSportsguy, and Underdog.  We decided to stop sharing El Lay Dave and turned him into David Young so he'd hang his hat here more then there. Jon must have had great respect for their writing since both BHSportsguy and Underdog were asked to write for his Dodger Maple Street Press book.   Jon is dead on when he says

I feel like I did a lot to build the community that now exists elsewhere.

He is the sole reason TBLA exists in this format. I expressed this sentiment before but I know for a fact I would not be writing about the Dodgers if not for Dodger Thoughts. I'm sure Eric and David would echo that sentiment.  Everything that TBLA has become is owed to Jon. We all know it. His early and continued support of the columns, the friendly banter of the commentators, to the even keel we try to keep regarding the team.  The goal was always to build something akin to what we had left.  Jon is to blame for our success. If he had never linked to my early attempts I would probably have gotten frustrated and quit since the only time I knew anybody would read what I wrote was if he linked it. He was like the Godfather, he controlled our happiness.

Once the season starts I expect the comments will once again flourish at DT but I will not look there with envy anymore. I'm proud of this place, I'm proud of what Eric has built, I'm proud I had something to do with it even it was simply keeping this place running until we found a placeholder. We had no idea when we started writing together in Dec of 2008 that SB Nation was about to sign a game changing deal with Yahoo Sports but we were luckily  in the right place at the right time.  In my case it has always been better to be lucky then good.

In my ideal world Jon would be a paid writer at SB Nation using the SB Nation writing and commenting software forming a powerhouse combination with Eric that would be a must read for any Dodger fan.  The biggest advantage of TBLA is the SB Nation platform from writing to commenting, as it is easy to share the load not only with other writers but the commentators. The reason I say my ideal world is because I'd love to see what Jon would do on our stage where he wouldn't have to worry about the minutiae of the Dodgers but concentrate on what he does best.

Writing columns like this.

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Jon has always been very vocal of his love for his DT community

Eric Stephen, Eric Enders, Molly Knight, Underdog, Bob Timmermann, myself and then other site runners, Kensai and Mike from MSTI, were all big contributors to that book. It will be only publication I will ever contribute to where I knew the majority of the people who wrote for it.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 8, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

Isn't this seem a bit high for Minor league deal

via Jon Heyman

 SI_JonHeyman
  
hank blalock agrees to minor-league deal with #rays for $925,000 plus $400,000 in extras.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 8, 2010 6:36 PM PST reply actions  

Can I get credit for knowing who that guy was from mlbtraderumors.com, though never telling him to come here? :)

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Phil,

I never knew the toaster or dodger thoughts prior to July 2009, and even then I was always narrow minded when it came to reading material about the Dodgers. It was you that captured my eye to joining TBLA. Always thought that you were on top of Dodger blogging mortality, and still do. To read that you’re kind of discrediting yourself of TBLA’s success is blasphemy.

by Julio Nievas on Mar 8, 2010 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks Julio

I do appreciate that.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 8, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

A few months ago a young kid joined called lakersdogersyankes4life who has become a solid member of the community. It is members like Tommy that make writing for TBLA better then I ever expected it could be.

Thanks Phil. This site has become the first I visit and I am looking forward to continue reading here for a long time. This site has easily become the 1st site I check when I get home… it’s nice to have a site that not only talks baseball, but almost anything of interest

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 8, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

I should mention

that this website has more of a family feel that is obsessed with baseball than just fans. Most websites when they have a new member just pretend that they had always been there and move on. You have gone out of your way to welcome me into the TBLA family. Thank you Phil

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 8, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

you're a great host Phil

keep your sense of humor here and everything follows

by shooterm1 on Mar 8, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

4+1

game was the epitome of DT. We got a huge write up in the Sports Illustrated end of the year magazine when they compared our comments on DT to the comments on the Padres blog – with each comment time stamped.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Mar 8, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Would you happen to have a link to that article, or was it just in the magazine?

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

It would take some

serious google searching. I’d probably go through the DT Baseball Toaster archives to find it as it had its own DT blog entry when we made it into the magazine. I vaguely remember it being in both print and online as far as the ESPN article went. It was the end of year special issue and I bought two of the magazines because one of my quotes from DT was used as the article headline.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Mar 9, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Linkage

Ok, this link will get you close. From there you can click a link to the SI story online (insider??) and the original DT thread.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Mar 9, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, i’ll definitely take a look.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Just checking in ... afer a long day

and just left a note on DT

Kudos
You are all doing a great job.
Great job.

THANK YOU

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 8, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

this post is

epic. Having been a long time DT’er (and a scout.com guy before that) I’m happy to have found a home here. I do miss the toaster. And my fists do too.

Who is Karim Garcia? Who is he to challenge me?

by Who Is Karim Garcia? on Mar 8, 2010 7:45 PM PST reply actions  

Just want to say I really enjoy this blog and you guys are doing a great job.

I originally started reading DT at the Toaster sometime in early ‘08. At first, I was just a lurker, reading Jon’s articles and browsing through the ensuing comments. I really enjoyed Jon’s writing, the comments, the banter between all of you guys, and the quality of the baseball discussion.

After a while, I began to dip my toe in the water and drop in a comment here and there, and soon thereafter I found myself engaged in full discussions when I had the time (I had a different posting name). I couldn’t even come close to keeping up with the amount a lot of you commented, but still found myself checking the site and reading the comments as often as possible. The community feel was awesome, everyone loved the Dodgers and most of the comments and discussions were either insightful, provoking, informational and/or instructional.

In ’09, I guess I just sort of followed the traffic over here to TBLA and recognized many of the names from DT and the Toaster days. Putting the amazing commenting software aside, the writing here is great, and more importantly the commenting community here makes this the first and last site I visit every day. I think I am addicted to TBLA.

by BFDC on Mar 8, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions  

TBLA

I am new to both sites, but when I first started viewing the sites I was so relieved to know there was a better place for dodger fans than espn.com. I started with DT and from there was introduced to TBLA. For months I have read every post and viewed nearly every comment until I finally joined recently. I look forward to being apart of this community and really appreciate all the efforts of the writers at both sites.

by SLC DODGER FAN on Mar 8, 2010 8:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

From someone who an outside perspective who a) discovered both blogs post-Baseball Toaster and b) only occasionally comments, I feel like some of the competition is overblown, as the blogs seem so closely affiliated. Sort of like if Bill Bill Belichick and Erik Mangini were best friends.

by dsm9412 on Mar 8, 2010 8:11 PM PST reply actions  

*From someone with an outside perspective who

by dsm9412 on Mar 8, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

site line

here’s the deal:
for about two seasons, i loved dodger thoughts. watching a game with my laptop going became a small ritual. very fun.
and, to this day, i still like dodger thoughts. kinda.
but love faded when it jumped to LA Times. (nothing wrong with LAT, per se, but something about the blogging format felt weird. plus i work at another newspaper and i don’t want to give them the hits).
anyway, in the past year or so, i’ve found true blue la to be more than a happy substitute. this blog is far less mannered than DT, and i mean that in the best possible way. true blue la seems to pull from a broader range of information, it’s less sappy, more open to the odd drunken poster, funnier; tolerant of the occasional f-bomb.. it’s also filled with crackpots and experts, groups that aren’t always mutually exclusive.
don’t know if that matters to you guys, but it does to me.
much appreciated.

by immouch on Mar 8, 2010 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

plus i work at another newspaper and i don’t want to give them the hits).

haha, never help the opponent ;)

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 8, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Great post Phil. I am on the road and when I got to Atlanta, after cleaning up a littany of emails, I checked into TBLA to see what was going on. I’m getting pumped for the season, and there’s nowhere I look before TBLA for Dodger info these days. I will admit that I was blown away at seeing over 500 comments. Holy crap! This is preseason! You guys have obviously built a great site and a great community where Dodger fans like myself can commune with each other. My hats off to all of you, especially my little bro. I’m very proud of his, and all of your, accomplishments.

That being said, >500 posts for a preseason game? My God…what is the real season going to bring us? I won’t be able to keep up! But try I will!

by KellyStephen on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

Completley Agree

When I get home there is already 300+ comments on a PRESEASON game… unbelievable…

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Mar 8, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

People are just itching for baseball, it’s been way too long.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

DodgerThoughts and TBLA - the Koufax and Drysdale of Dodger Blogs

To me, it’s not a matter of choosing one, but being fortunate to have both resources to feed our Dodger news needs, as well as our baseball souls.

Between the two, I’d like to think we have most of the bases covered and when you add the number of other Dodger-related blogs, we have all the information possibly available to us. I love seeing the collaboration between the two blogs, and reading postings that complement each other, rather than compete.

As we head toward the season, I’ll continue to click back and forth between DT and TBLA (feeling as if I were Jackie Robinson winning a track meet and then suiting up for a baseball game the same day).

by JJ 24 on Mar 8, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

Awesome

…all while wearing a Wilson Valdez game-worn #42 jersey!!!

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

No competition

but I"m sure you meant clicking back and fourth between TBLA and DT.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 8, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Erico Esteban according to my wife

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 8, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

That works too. I’ll start growing the pencil thin mustache

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

My mom called me this afternoon and told me she bought this maple street dodger magazine at vons today for me. I told her I wanted it and did not know where to buy it, so I am excited to see her tomorrow for her Tuesday babysitting day of the boy.
The comments were great today, and it was fun to hang out with everyone. This site surely has surpassed DT, and I enjoy it much more. There was an attitude in the toaster days that I did not really like, and I never felt that here. It helps that I keep running into the editors at Clipper games too.

by delias man on Mar 8, 2010 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Big Clipper Game

information forthcoming

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 8, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw the Maple Street Dodger Magazine at a liquor store in Oxnard last week, and was very tempted to buy it. It was more expensive than any magazine i have bought before, and I hadn’t gotten paid yet, so it will have to wait for now, haha.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, don’t you have savings built up already from not spending on the erstwhile girlfriend? ;)
It’s a high quality product all around, both in content and production.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 9, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol, I blew all that this last weekend by going to Spring Training :)

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Merger Monday?

Interesting this topic comes out into the open when it’s been lurking in the shadows recently. Obviously, from a mere reader’s/commenter’s perspective, combining DT & TBLA would be ideal.

by kinbote on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

Ken Levine and Steve Lyons will be calling Wednesday’s Dodgers/D-Backs game on Prime Ticket.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

That should be the full time combo.

by delias man on Mar 8, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It will be awesome when Withrow becomes Wipitch

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

kershaw and withrow

2 of the coolest pitching names…

by matthewmafa on Mar 8, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW to the 18-22 second part

he threw a nearly EFFORTLESS pitch to strike out the batter looking….. It looked like he was throwing a warm up pitch!!!!! and he hit 94 MPH…. WOW

by matthewmafa on Mar 8, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Did folks see Kershaw/Lindblom on the Prime Ticket show? They’re buds and Lindblom looks like a chill dude.

by kinbote on Mar 8, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

no

whats the show called..?

by matthewmafa on Mar 8, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It was Dodgers Live. Recorded Sunday night I believe.

by kinbote on Mar 8, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they’re doing weekly spring training updates. Too much Psycho/Torre for me, but I liked seeing Lindblom in situ.

by kinbote on Mar 8, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

LOVE this video. Thanks for the link! Just saw it this morning.

by silverwidow on Mar 9, 2010 5:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Now on double duty

As a longtime DTer, I finally registered for TBLA. For the last few years, DT has been my only Dodger home (I would read the posts on here as well), but it seems like the tides have sort of changed a little bit away from DT as far as commenters go. It will be strange at first checking on two Dodger sites every day, but hopefully I can become as much of a part of this community as I felt with DT at the Toaster.

by UCLADodger32 on Mar 8, 2010 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

You can participate in both

But Phil and Eric do a great job in making everyone feel welcome. I was going to email you and see if you wanted to check out some UCLA baseball games, my Wooden Fund card gives me free admission for two.

I’ll email you more info.

by bhsportsguy on Mar 8, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Kemp on hitting 2nd
I definitely like hitting 2nd more than I like hitting 8th and 9th. But wherever I’m at, I’m going to try my best to get hits. I know Torre has faith in me. It really doesn’t matter where he puts me. As long as he puts me in the lineup, it’s all good. I just want to play every day, every single day, 162.

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

I’d very much like to see Kemp hitting 2nd. It gives him the protection of Ethier and then Manny. The best lineup, imo, should be Furcal, Kemp, Ethier, Manny, Loney, Blake, Martin, Dewitt/Belliard, pitcher.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Billingsley joked about throwing a ton of pitches
I just wanted to make sure I got all my pitches in the first two innings, so I didn’t have to go down to the bullpen and throw extra.

Then he laughed after he said it. Chad Billingsley, jester. :)

by Eric Stephen on Mar 8, 2010 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

Love what you have done to the place.

Don’t post too much here, but read everything. Now, all that’s missing is getting Timmermann back doing his baseball stuff on the internets.

by Bob Hendley on Mar 8, 2010 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

Neat!

{sniff} {wipes tear from eye}

Only thing is, who’s this underdog jerk you kept referring to above?

(But seriously, keep up the great work. I’m excited to have both DodgerThoughts and TBLA to look forward to reading every day and keeping me sane during the season. Or semi sane. We’re really lucky as D fans to have both to enjoy.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 8, 2010 10:24 PM PST reply actions  

Blog Roll for the game thread

Roll Call: silverwidow, meercatjohn, Eric Stephen, BFDC, bhsportsguy, delias man, Michael White, robotmadeofnails, S Jay Bruin, prosellis, Ivdown, Xeifrank, OB12, kinbote, David Young, underdog, kngoworld, sarcastro9, oshea2002, LA Taco, CanuckDodger, SeanMillerSavior
Total Users: 22
Total Posts: 506
Total Threads: 1

Name # of Posts
Eric Stephen 117
meercatjohn 107
Ivdown 34
bhsportsguy 32
BFDC 30
David Young 30
silverwidow 27
delias man 27
prosellis 24
underdog 22
Michael White 21
kinbote 15
SeanMillerSavior 4
OB12 4
Xeifrank 4
LA Taco 2
robotmadeofnails 1
CanuckDodger 1
sarcastro9 1
S Jay Bruin 1
kngoworld 1
oshea2002 1

So Eric and I dominated the conversation. My teachers said I never could keep my mouth shut.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 8, 2010 10:41 PM PST reply actions  

Whew, just got done reading them all

by 68elcamino427 on Mar 8, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll never beat underdog at anything {taking ball and walking home}.

by kinbote on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

But I'm not sure what I "win"

for having a few more comments on an exhibition game thread other than my boss’s irritation ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 9, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

Thats not nearly as many users as I thought.

by kngoworld on Mar 8, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Bam! 3rd place. Though like 1/3 wasn’t baseball related, lol, but oh well. I look forward to more 1000 post gameday topics once the season starts. Now that I’ll be able to watch almost every game, I’ll probably be on more than last season as well.

I have a life, trust me <.< >.>

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I rarely comment

But I always read, both at DT and TBLA. And I have to say, one of the best things about both sites are its readers. I feel that I learn as much from comments on a posting than the posting itself (of course the writing at both sites are excellent). After a long day, making it through the posts and comments, I feel thoroughly informed, and I find there is nothing left to say. I do sometimes make an appearance in game threads, and I feel TBLA just works wondefully for this purpose. Sometimes its nice to share in the frustration and joy of a game with other die-hards :)

by JLS23 on Mar 9, 2010 12:11 AM PST reply actions  

1. I couldn’t say it better than Phil did. TBLA is what is today because of DT.

2. Jon Weisman is THE MAN, both at writing and at community building. Stumbling onto DT is what showed me there was something out there beyond what was being fed to us by the mainstream sports media.

3. I found TBLA through DT because Andrew commented at DT. I read TBLA, but commented only occasionally. (Through an unfortunate accident, all my TBLA comments prior to May 2009 have ceased to exist – and I didn’t get spider-powers in return – but I did get in my shots at Andrew, mostly about hair colors and girlie drinks.) I really enjoyed reading Phil’s columns (Phil, we need the return of Ned fan fiction!), and the topper was the addition of the sheer force that is Eric Stephen. These guys in combination really made me take more notice. I was pretty surprised when they asked me to join as an “editor”, and it still surprises me to see my name on the “masthead”, but I am honored to be in such company. Any time you get an opportunity to join a winner, you don’t turn it down.

4. I still read every post and comment at DT; it is still that important to me. I may comment less there than before, but I am still there.

5. There are several fine Dodger blogs out there that I read frequently, even if I comment on them seldomly. This is a great time to be a Dodger fan.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 9, 2010 12:15 AM PST reply actions  

Through an unfortunate accident, all my TBLA comments prior to May 2009 have ceased to exist – and I didn’t get spider-powers in return

^hahaha

Idk why, but I’ve never been to DT unless it’s been a linked article, and I’ve never really poked around. I guess I should take a look with all the great praise everyone is giving it.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I just joined today

but this is the first site I look at when I get home from work to check for Dodgers news. I wanted to let you guys know what a great job you do with this site and I’ve really enjoyed the past year.

by columbia30r on Mar 9, 2010 2:50 AM PST reply actions  

Thank you, and welcome.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Simple fact is

this place and Dodger Thoughts are the two greatest sites for a Dodger fan to visit and the first place I check every day when I hit the web, during the season or in the off-season. It doesn’t matter who was first, where they were, or why fans moved. It’s all one community to me. Thanks to all of you that make these sites possible for making being a Dodger fan just a little bit easier from half a country away and half a world away. I appreciate what you do.

by Indiana Jon on Mar 9, 2010 5:20 AM PST reply actions  

Jon, we appreciate what you do. Thanks for that, and for you comments.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 9, 2010 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Nathan needs TJ surgery

Think we could trade Sherrill to Minnesota for something great?

by silverwidow on Mar 9, 2010 6:07 AM PST reply actions  

I could see this being explored, but only after Bellisario arrives and is able to go for OD or shortly thereafter. I think replacing Sherrill wouldn’t be too difficult, we have plenty of live arms, but I don’t know much about the Minnesota system or who we might be interested in. This is probably a situation that would be best to wait until closer to the start of the season, once we have made it through ST and the bullpen is mostly in tact and the Twins have determined that they don’t have a replacement for Nathan.

by OB12 on Mar 9, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Or once

Link-blom prove themselves awesome to Torre.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, we have several viable contenders for a bullpen spot, so losing Sherrill really isn’t such a huge loss. Lindblom, Link, Monasterios, Zerpa, and Leach are all possible replacements, but I think it is important that Broxton, Kuo, and Bellisario are ready to for OD prior to making any deal.

by OB12 on Mar 9, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Sherrill for Mauer? I can see that going through :D

What do the Twins even have that we could get for Sherrill? One of their very mediocre sp?

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Nathan TJ surgery – Everyone who was in the trade of AJ that was so lauded at the time has now undergone surgery, Liriano, Nathan, and Boozer. Still an incredible trade, just pointing out how quickly what seemed like a bountiful harvest can turn sour when young arms are the commodity.

Elbert does not look like he’s going to be the fifth starter so he could fill the brim reapers shoes.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 9, 2010 7:02 AM PST reply actions  

Giving up after 2 innings?

by Eric Stephen on Mar 9, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Can't see them

not using Stults to start the year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Mar 9, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with that

by Eric Stephen on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

After what Torre said, I can’t see a real chance being given to Elbert now.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I check TDLA all day

to see what is going on. It’s become such a big part of my day that my wife tells me “ask your blogging friends” whenever I have a Dodgers question. I love it here, thank you everyone.

by Skunkburner on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

The first article I ever read on here was the Verducci Effect one about Billingsley. I really liked the article, but never read anything else on here. One day last summer I decided to find the article and then see what was on here. I was a frequent poster on Dodgers.com, and this place is 100 times better if not 1000. I love the writers and the posters on here.

You know though, the thing that really hooked me in was the daily minor league stat posts. I loved reading those almost more than anything else on here, minus the aftergame posts. I hope those continue because I’m definitely looking forward to those in 2010.

Top notch job, guys!

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

I agree that TBLA has long been a great place for minor league info, even before it got all the comments it gets now. Come to think of it, that might’ve been the main draw for me. I love following the minor league system and can’t get enough good material.

by kinbote on Mar 9, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, that’s was my FanPost!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Mar 9, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Then it’s your fault that I’m here! Way to go, Dave. :)

That was a great post, and it’s the only reason I found out about this site. Thank you very much for that.

by Ivdown on Mar 9, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

TBLA has stepped it up

I started reading DT during the passionate Hee-Seop Choi debates. The comments were so comprehensive I just lurked and absorbed as much knowledge as possible. I remember TBLA in its nascent days and wondered why it wasn’t as big as the other SB sites like MCC and BleedCubbieBlue, but you guys have worked hard to make it the force it is today.

I used to liken my following of TBLA and DT to 24-hour cable news and 60 Minutes, respectively. I came here for up-to-the-minute stories and statistical analysis, while DT provided Jon’s unique perspective and incredible writing. I think the comments here are on par with DT in terms of intelligence, which is no small task. A lot of credit goes to the TBLA authors who have fostered a culture of intelligent Dodger discussion.

I never saw a competition between DT and TBLA because TBLA is pretty much a DT-commenter All-Star team. EricStephen, BHSportsguy, Phil Gurnee, El Lay Dave… you guys (along with Kensai and CanuckDodger) were the people I stopped and read word for word as I scrolled down the 300+ daily comments on the old DT Toaster site. Dodger fans are lucky that TBLA provides a forum for all of you to spark your own conversations about everything Dodgers.

by ishXdavid on Mar 9, 2010 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

Its truly amazing to see how far blogs have come in such a short time

I remember DT was the first blog I read, and I used to comment as Lonestar7 during Toaster days. Now I’ve tried to universalize my name as Ollie/Oliver on most of the blogs that I read because they really do seem to become a community and a family, and I feel a bit of personal attachment to each one.

I know I’ve been primarily a lurker for a long while since the divorce debate cooled down, but I assure you I’ll be back when school ends and baseball rolls around because I’ll almost certainly be in sort of miserable internship or summer school class with nothing to else to do but track baseball : )

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Mar 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks for all the great info

You guys rock. Writing a baseball blog has to be incredibly demanding considering the long season. I mean how much can one really put into a Wednesday afternoon game agains the Marlins? But I’m glad you do it. Keep it up.

The Airman of Westwood

by S Jay Bruin on Mar 9, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 35 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP 60 Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
fillers until moves are made.

Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
56 Matt Chico lhp
29
33 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25
28 Jamey Wright rhp
37

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
65 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
37 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 20

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