Dodger Outfield Invoking Memories of Franklin Stubbs & Ralph Bryant
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 10:38 AM PDT
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The lasting memory of yesterday's home opener was almost certainly the four home runs, the first time they have ever hit that many in a Los Angeles home opener. Casey Blake hit one, and the other three were hit by the outfield trio of Manny Ramirez, Matt Kemp, and Andre Ethier. It was the 15th time since moving to Los Angeles that the Dodgers had all three starting outfielders hit a home run:
| Date | Opp | LF | CF | RF |
| Tuesday | Ari | Manny Ramirez |
Matt Kemp | Andre Ethier |
| July 10, 2009 | Mil | Manny | Kemp | Ethier |
| August 17, 2008 | Mil | Manny | Kemp | Ethier |
| June 27, 2002 | Col | Brian Jordan | Marquis Grissom |
Shawn Green |
| May 21, 2002 | Mil | Jordan | Dave Roberts | Green |
| October 5, 2001 | SF | Gary Sheffield | Grissom | Green |
| August 19, 2001 | NYM | Sheffield | Grissom | Green |
| June 4, 2001 | Ari | Sheffield | Tom Goodwin | Green |
| July 18, 1998 | StL | Matt Luke | Raul Mondesi | Sheffield |
| June 8, 1990 | SD | Kal Daniels | Kirk Gibson | Hubie Brooks |
| September 22, 1986 | Hou | Pedro Guerrero | Franklin Stubbs | Ralph Bryant |
| September 9, 1964 | SF | Tommy Davis | Willie Davis | Frank Howard |
| July 5, 1962 | SF | T.Davis | W.Davis | Howard |
| July 20, 1961 | Cin | Wally Moon | W.Davis | Duke Snider |
| August 24, 1960 | Mil | Moon | T.Davis | Howard |
The game that jumped out at me, aside from the ones with home runs by Tom Goodwin and Dave Roberts, was the 1986 game in Houston. Not only did Franklin Stubbs start in center field, but Ralph Bryant hit third. The 25-year old Bryant started 20 games in September that season, and had 12 extra-base hits, including six home runs in just 82 plate appearances on the season. The opposing pitcher that day was current Dodger Double A pitching coach Danny Darwin.
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That was kind of a harsh response in the last thread
by robotmadeofnails on Apr 14, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
It was
but it looked like he was quoting someone else. I was going to delete it except the second part of the sentence was funny. Eric responded without deleting sean’s comment so I’ve let it stay.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, I couldn’t tell if he was quoting or not
by robotmadeofnails on Apr 14, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm completely lost and also
my own best audience.
by Seanny Rotten on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I was a huge Ralph Bryant fan - had mega power
Eric this is a great list. This is why I love this site. Hopefully our Trio will do it a few more times this year. Did you notice our current trio has now done it three teams surpassing the Sheff/Grissom/Green who did it twice. Seening Goodwin instead of Grissom is a bit of a shock given his Carroll like power.
Old Friend Matt Luke is on the list. He probably would have liked to know that bit of trivia at the picnic.
Gibson in CF in 1990, I don’t even remember him being on the team in 1990
Willie Davis, Grissom, and Kemp have all been part of 3 trio’s.
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and Hondo…man that 1962 outfield was badass.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
See below - we posted at the same time:)
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by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Like to see the Matt Luke appearance on that list
I know I said it before but my son plays on the SoCal NTT travel ball team, run by Matt’s brother Scott Luke, who is also the AD and Head Baseball Coach up here at Mammoth High. A few big leaguers have come through the ScNTT program including that notorious clubhouse crasher Prince Fielder.
by MammothDodger on Apr 14, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
In a way, Matt Luke barely makes that list. He was in LF, hit the homer, and moved to 1B to start the next half-inning.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
There were two other games that I didn’t include, where someone who started the game at another position hit a HR and also played OF later in the game (Ron Fairly was one, I don’t remember the other).
I decided to limit it to the 3 starting OF only
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have induced
A ground out from Matt Luke in that wiffle ball game
by robotmadeofnails on Apr 14, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
If I read this right
Shawn Green was part of five
Sheffield four, three in LF, one in RF
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I am also glad Kal Daniels made an appearance. That Hubie Brooks was a part of that OF is a plus for my memory as well.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
News Flash
Shawn Green had some power, sure did like him in Blue.
by MammothDodger on Apr 14, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I would love to see Ethier become Shawn Green.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
… without the shoulder problems at too-young an age.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed
hated the way he went out with the loss of power from the shoulder problem. Class player, maybe the classiest in the 21st century.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a FanPost, maybe for an off-day?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
My first favorite player for when I was old enough to make my own opinions on such things.
by Michael White on Apr 14, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine
how geeked 1962 fans were to have Tommy Davis(23), Willie Davis(22), and Frank Howard(25) in the outfield. Hell of a way to open Dodger Stadium. Who knew the future was going to be pitching/defense when you had those guys at the beginnings of their career.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Exciting times
Great, young outfield
Great pitching staff led by two young studs
New stadium in its first year
Optimism must have been sky high, and rightfully so in 1962.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
1962
still one of just two LA Dodger teams to score 800 runs (this year will be 3rd).
1962 – 842 runs (1st year of expansion is best reason I can figure)
2006 – 820 (onbasability)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
Tommie Davis had the incredible year by hitting .346 with 153 Runs Batted In. However I love this.
Duke Snider walked 36 times in 196 plate appearances compared to 33 times in 711 plate appearances for Tommie Davis. Thus if you count when Snider was playing CF the team had three guys who would post a plus 140 ERA+. Bloody incredible.
Our boys still have a ways to go to catch that number.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
OPS+ of course not ERA+
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
What's in a name? A rose by any other name would wither and die.
BTW – is that new Russell Brand movie a reworking of sorts of My Favorite Year?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Get Him to the Greek
sure sounds like it, but I haven’t read the script.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Apr 14, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that flick
My Favorite Year was the first thing I thought of.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Things I didn't realize yesterday
This was from Steve Gilbert (D-Backs, MLB.com):
Bizarre 5th for #Dbacks: 5 baserunners, 0 hits, 0 runs.
I was driving back to work at the time, so I missed it. But Gilbert is not technically correct. Here is the inning log:
walk
walk
force out
walk
force out
flyout
Technically only 3 baserunners, though 5 different D-Backs reached base.
Now I'm being picky but
does hitting into a FC count as “reached base”? How about “five different DBack batters were on the base paths”?
Somehow, I don’t think it is that unusual to have two fielders choices scattered around three batters reaching base without making an out, and having no runs score.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
When i saw the tweet, I felt compelled to comment on it, and since the comment was half written when I found out how the inning unfolded, I just decided to keep the comment alive rather than cancel it. :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
With Rollins hitting the DL
I think we should trade Nick Green to the Phillies for Monk.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
does that get us anything
except the ability to send Monk down (after we release the Ortizes to make room for Kuo and Belisario)?
by MammothDodger on Apr 14, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Which is big in my mind
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Apr 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
yea I guess agree
Monk is relatively young and is certainly with N. Green, straight up.
by MammothDodger on Apr 14, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The ability to send Monk down would be really nice.
by Michael White on Apr 14, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I like this idea actually. It seems like something that could be plausible although Green has an out in his contract, right? They may just prefer to wait until he is availble.
That's one month from now (May 15)
Rollins should be healed by then.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Instead of for Monk, how about for a low-level, but exciting prospect like Domingo Santana? Gets us a Santana back into the system, sets us up for a possible future Guerrero/Ellingsen story if we’re lucky, and we can probably still trade some never-will-be arm from the minors for Monk.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Hokie Hi
Any mention of Franklin Stubbs compels me to mention that he was one of two Dodgers to play at Virginia Tech, the other being the late Johnny Oates.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Apr 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT reply actions
HOLD EVERYTHING
Franklin Stubbs played CF?!?
by Seanny Rotten on Apr 14, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know this guy was also V-Tech until I looked it up
Brad Clontz pitched for the Dodgers for half of 1998. The club grows.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
There were a couple comments in an earlier thread about Brett Anderson
which got me thinking about the moves that got him to Oakland. Here’s a diagram that starts with the drafting of Mark Mulder, and later Huston Street, and leads to where Oakland is today. The bottom line is that from a #2 overall eleven years ago, and a #40 five years ago (and the various salaries paid out), Oakland has received about 20.4 seasons of major league play (of varying quality, but a lot of it pretty darn good), and still has the players in green, including Anderson, as well. That is not bad at all.
BTW – Barton is off to a hot, mega-DeWitt start: .346 / .526 / .423 / .949, with an AL leading 11 walks in only 40 PA.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I found out from a well-connected source at a certain tattoo parlor on Monday that Kemp wants to be called “The Thing” now. I will abide. That is all.
That only works if
Ethier’s Mr. Fantastic, Ramon Ortiz is the Human Torch, and Jamie McCourt’s the Invisible Woman.
by kinbote on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I'm no fan
of that new nickname, but Kemp certainly deserves a hand for his efforts:
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm old school
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
This really should come as no surprise. Turner is a VERY advanced 18-year-old in Low A.
by silverwidow on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If you haven't seen it already check out the hilarious graphic
on the top of the right sidebar at Mike Scioscia’s Tragic Illness.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 14, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Piniero
beats the Yankee’s rather handily in NY. Without Duncan. Nice game, Angels needed that.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Poor Orioles
would hate to be in that Division.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Dylan Hernandez reports:(emphasis mine)
Torre said he was open to using the left-handed Sherrill in the seventh inning if the Dodgers have to retire a left-handed hitter to get out of trouble. He also said Ramon Troncoso and Jeff Weaver were candidates to pitch in the eighth.I am not eager to see Weaver in the 8th inning of close games, but the pen is what it is at the moment. We should be inside of two weeks for the return of Belisario and Kuo. I hope they are still good.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'm not sure Kuo is capable of being bad.
He’s either dominating, or injured. Theres no middle ground.
Pumpkinhead is another question entirely, of course.
Good point. Kuo will be nice, but getting a fresh arm in Belisario should do wonders for our pen. I also wonder if the next rough outing Sherrill has will earn him a trip to the fake DL. Elbert could be brought up to take his place. Funny how we could see our entire bullpen changed within a few weeks.
Also from
Mike Scioscia’s Tragic Illness:
Finally, behold the magic of Twitter. Eagle-eyed fan ED_in_DE pointed out to me that during Ethier’s 6th inning home run… he was using Matt Kemp’s bat. I went back and looked at the tape, and I’ll be damned: he’s absolutely right.You can follow the preceding link to see a screencap of “27” right on the knob of the black bat.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Meet your starting Phillie SS
JUAN CASTRO!
and his backup is none other than Wilson Freaking Valdez.
Old friends…
I don't know if anyone saw this on DT
But for tonight’s fabulous prize (prize is not fabulous)
Who will have the most strikeouts tonight:
MLB – Chad Billingsley
AAA – Scott Elbert
AA – Chris Withrow
High A – Aaron Miller
A – Brett Wallach
Actually if Ethan Martin pitched tonight
That would be closer to the truth since Miller was drafted in the 1st Supplemental Round.
But everyone knew that.
Over/under 41.5
I’ll probably take the over.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Total strikeouts for the group or are we talking about something else
I would take the under, given Wallach, Miller and Withrow’s pitch count limitations.
Billingsley – 10
Elbert – 8
Withrow – 8
Miller – 7
Wallach – 4
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I’ll take Elbert.
Elbert has major league stuff but is pitching against minor leaguers….
by Michael White on Apr 14, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i know i could find this on the web but
Who is scheduled to go for the 66ers tomorrow? I will be in the area (need to pick up my daughter around 10 pm) and might take my son and go to the IE a little early. It will be a nice tune up for going to see the boys whip on Timmy on Friday.
thanks
nice to be able get $10 seats in front section behind the plate, guess I got to decide……
by MammothDodger on Apr 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
next couple weeks should tell us alot about the Giants. Dodgers, Cards, Phils, Rox. Lets see how they survive that.
hey sean miller savior
did you watch that Ray Mac pressy?
haha..when he pulled out a red jersey i almost wet myself…
then it said Detroit on it…..fuuuuck.
Mayes isn a pg. Dude can shoot it, but definitely not a playmaker. It will be another interesting year in the awful Pac10.
by UCLADodger32 on Apr 14, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Mayes
isn’t a pure point but he can play there. Arizona won’t have a pure point next year but they’ll be more talented.
I missed the Ray Mac press conference
but dam he woudla been a nice fit at U OF A. Im hoping we can pull in Lamb or Selby, but that looks unlikely. Jack would be a nice get as well, but Im still kinda mad we couldnt land the big Juco center Jarrid Famous. . . hes gone on to be a solid player at South Florida
by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 14, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Lots of late inning blown games this year
or it could be that I just notice it more this year than in the past. Today, it is the Brewers turn. Angels nearly did, but their gas can had a hole in it.
vr, Xei
Brad Ausmus to have surgery tomorrow to heal a herniated disc. “The club hopes to have Ausmus back on the field late this summer.”
Late summer?
60 day DL trip? Not that the 40 man spot is needed right now I suppose.
by Michael White on Apr 14, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
More importantly
Joel McHale is throwing out the first pitch tonight :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I love it as well.
You should check out Community if you like the Soup.
by Michael White on Apr 14, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That would help with the Belisario move.
Though someone would still need to be taken off the 25-man roster and I don’t know if either Ortiz has a split-contract option.
Russ will likely just retire when they DFA him.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Who
Would you pick up off a waiver wire: Oswalt or Jonathan Sanchez?
by robotmadeofnails on Apr 14, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions
You spelled “Withrow” right, but “deity” is i after e.
by kinbote on Apr 14, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jon Weisman has the lineup:
Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Ramirez LF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
DeWitt 2B
Martin C
Billingsley P
I can't believe
we are using the same lineup that only scored 9 runs yesterday
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
AJ Ellis
is feeling mighty good today about his bank account. Must be strange to be a career minor league baseball player and go from making nothing for 10 years to hitting what has to be the jackpot for him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I thought there was a rule that you had to make at least $70,000 a year in a split contract if you seen major league baseball?
$65k is the minimum
But there’s also the 60% rule, so Ellis’ minor league salary this year is probably something like $120,000 or so.
Still, making $2,200 per day instead of ~$785 can sure add up over three months.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 14, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention that
if he can adequately handle the backup job he could be a backup catcher for the next 10 years. They seem to last forever and if I was a betting man, I’d bet more catchers have qualified for the pension then any other position.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When you only get paid for six months not 12?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
D-Backs lineup
C. Jackson LF
Drew SS
Upton RF
LaRoche 1B
Reynolds 3B
Young CF
Johnson 2B
Snyder C
Lopez P
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