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1st Place SF Giant Preview

The San Francisco Giants come into Dodger Stadium this weekend feeling pretty good about themselves. The pitching has been even better then expected, the offense surprisingly effective, resulting in the best record in the NL at 7 - 2 (tied with Philly). Last year the Giants rode their pitching to 88 wins, this year they hope to top 90. Their hopes took a huge hit when top pitching prospect Madison Bumgarner inexplicably lost 5 MPH on his fastball and became very hittable. One has to think an injury has taken place but so far he just keeps pitching and getting hammered in AAA.  Possibly the best catching prospect in baseball Buster Posey also sits at AAA waiting his turn. Luckily for us that is where he might stay most of the summer. 

This is a well rested Giant bullpen we will be facing. They were off on Thursday and pretty much watched Jonathan Sanchez dominate the Pirates on Wednesday Night when he twirled a three hitter for eight innings with 11 punchouts.

The Giants who were expected to be at the bottom of most offensive categories are instead in the top five in multiple categories. Fourth in slug% (.470), 3rd in OBP (.362), fourth in runs scored (51). This will probably not last and while the had their way with the Astro pitching they also beat up on the Braves. It actually doesn't need to last, they have good enough pitching that they should be in every game they play.

Pitching is the bread and butter of the Giants and with Zito holding his own, Sanchez doing what we hoped Kershaw would do the 1 - 4 in the rotation is the best in the NL. Their 2.75 ERA is on top of the leaderboard, they have only given up 5 home runs so something may have to give when they run into Matt Kemp.

The Dodgers will miss Matt Cain and Jonathan Sanchez so they will get a shot at the two weakest pitchers in the rotation. Unlike other teams if you get past the rotation they bullpen is solid all the way through.

Changes:

Notable Losses: Randy Winn, Rich Aurilia, Randy Johnson, Bob Howry, Justin Miller, Brad Penny, Brian Bocock, Merkin Valdez, Noah Lowry

Notable Additions: Mark DeRosa, Audrey Huff, Mota, Wellemeyer

Old Friends: Mota

Position Breakdown

1st Base-Aubrey Huff comes over as a free agent to fill the gaping hole the Giants have had at first base. Huff has to deal with declining power and the fact his home park is particularly tough on home runs to right field. As the season progresses I don't really see Huff being a big upgrade for them.

2nd Base- Juan Uribe had a career year in 2009. So far in 2010 he's matching what he did in 2009. If he does this all season he will be a valuable asset to the offense.

SS - Edgar Renteria is enjoying a renaissance at the start of the year but he should slide back once he wakes up. At one time Renteria was one of the better offensive SS in the NL but that was years ago. This fast start is a mirage built on a 44% hit rate. His norm is 31%, the regression should come fast.

3rd Base - If Pablo Sandoval wasn't a Giant he'd probably be my favorite player to watch hit. Everything seems to be a line drive off his bat and while he swings at everything, he also seems to hit everything. He's the real deal and fun to watch hitting, fielding, or running.  A lot of players have tried to claim the throne from Vlady but I think the throne clearly belongs to Pablo at this point.

C -Giants brought back Benjie Molina instead of giving the job to Buster Posey. Molina is a hacker who doesn't know what a walk is, but he can also put the ball into the seats. The Giants love how he handles their staff which is why he's back behind the plate.

CF -Aaron Rowand was part of the trio of disappointing center fielders who signed contracts with California teams in the winter of 2007 along with Pierre and Matthews. He's the only one still on his original team and is trying to earn his salary this year. He hasn't had a good year since his contract year and is usually an OB failure.

RF - John Bowker beat out  Nate Schierholtz for the starting gig. Bowker has failed to impress during his other stints as a starter so this is a fluid situation. Even if he sticks as a starter the ceiling is limited. It is kind of like having Xavier Paul starting in RF.

LF -Super Uber Utility man Mark DeRosa was signed to be a left fielder. DeRosa can probably add value to a team as 2nd baseman or maybe even a 3rd baseman, but if he's your left fielder, your team is probably a little devoid of power. He's Casey Blake playing LF, a good player but when your CF is Rowand, and your RF is Bowkers, you probably need a little more from your LF then what DeRosa can deliver.

Bench - Filling out the bench is Nate Schierholtz, speedster Eugenio Velez, Andres Torres, and 1st baseman Travis Ishikawa. Torres will play in RF against LHP so we should see him this weekend.

On the DL: Burbank High star Freddy Sanchez

Starting Pitching for our Series:

Game One -Wellemeyer - the ex Cardinal won the 5th starter job with an excellent spring. This spot was expected to be handled by top pitching prospect Madison Bumgarner but Bumgarner lost about 5 MPH off his fastball and was batted around this spring. Wellemeyer is the weak link and the Dodger offense should have no problem with him.

Game Two -Tim Lincecum - you might have heard of this guy, probably the best pitcher many of you have ever seen.

Game Three - Barry Zito after having a solid 2009 campaign is doing it again so far in 2010. After two starts he's only given up eight hits in 12 innings. He may never earn the silly salary he was given but he's more then adequate as part of this rotation. I consider him the fourth best pitcher on the staff and not many teams can run out a Zito in the four spot.

Bullpen: The bullpen is another big strength for the Giants. You won't find any soft tossing veterans in this group. Most of the names are unknown but collectively they will do a good job. Only Runzler is young but they don't have anyone over 30 that they use in critical situations.  In a close game these are the guys we will likely see. Sergio Romo brings a multitude of pitches and arm angles to confuse the hitters during his short stints. He doesn't have high velocity (high 80's) but he still gets his share of strikeouts due to the command of the variety of pitches he does throw (FB, slider, curveball, splitter, and changeup). Jeremy Affeldt is still only 30 after having been in the league for what seems like forever. The hard throwing LHP induces a high% of ground balls and has been an effective setup man for quite a few years now. Dan Runzler give the Giants the 2nd lefty in the pen. He has struggled so far this year but has the capability to post double digit K rates.  Brian Wilson is an excellent closer even with the annoying habit. The rest of the bullpen is made up of ex-Dodger Mota, and Brandon Medders. Medders is the weakest link.

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Jonathan Broxton

has retired his last 11 batters faced, including seven by strikeout.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s just OK. Lol

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems like losing a couple MPH

agrees with him. Makes you wonder if maybe it wasn’t intentional to improve his command.

I doubt it, but maybe.

by EMDarrow on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw 97 on stadium gun last night…

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he's touching 97

Instead of living there, thats a drop in velocity for Brox. Used to be he’d touch 99-101.

Still, can’t really argue with the results so far. We’re not talking about a Bumgarner situation where he lost MPH and is getting hammered.

by EMDarrow on Apr 16, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. I’m going to miss him.

by berkowit28 on Apr 16, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No kidding!

I saw at least two outs he converted into doubles last year playing against the Dodgers. That will be missed.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

That’s what I meant. ;-)

by berkowit28 on Apr 16, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he'll finally win that

Iron Glove Award in the AL.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

thinking out loud

what slugging 1b/corner outfielders are going to be available via trade or free agency this summer and offseason? (Besides Adrian Gonzalez)

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

then the astros

are going to want more premium talent in return. Lee’s defense is as bad as Manny and he doesn’t hit like Manny.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

... true

this isn’t the NBA where you can get Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. I still can’t believe that one.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Gasol says hi

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know right.

People keep referring to that trade as though it was the gold standard for lopsided trades. The Grizzlies had one of the best 4/5 combos in the league last year thanks to that trade (getting Gasol and freeing up the cap space to trade absolutely nothing for Zach Randolph.)

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

He probably hits like Manny

going forward but his defense is awful. I’d rather take a shot at Berkman if you want a power hitting 1st baseman.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about Berkman today

After watching the Astros come unglued again.

Berkman makes $14.5 million this year and has a $15 million option for next year ($2 million buyout). He also has a full no-trade.

He’s also injured at the moment, but I gather that’s not really an issue — am I wrong?

Question: if the Dodgers are hanging along the fringe this year, do you trade for Berkman at the deadline? Can the Dodgers afford that? What kind of deal would get him?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I definitely want

I’ve just been convinced that its never going to happen for LAD. He’s just too expensive.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

manny's coming off the payroll

and Loney still can’t hit for power.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers are paying Manny more in 2011 and 2012 than in 2010

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

damnit

FUUUU deferred contracts.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy crap

didn’t realize Fielder smacked 46hrs last year.

now I really want.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pipe dream

don’t wast the energy, it can’t and won’t happen.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

stop it Phil.

It’s Friday, let me dream.

While I’m at it, let me dream of hitting the 212mil powerball this saturday as well.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

trade option down the line

Rangers have Smoak coming up and currently incumbent Chris Davis. They might be willing to move him. Although it’s not really Colleti’s forte to trade young players for young players, there could be a fit here.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we are going to dream

shouldn’t we dream that Loney fills the bill.

I don’t understand why you’d be interested in Chris Davis. He has one skill, the only skill that Loney does not have. I’d much rather have the guy with multiple skills.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Davis

minor league avg: 306/366/585

Taking into account the offensive parks in the Ranger’s system, he still can rake. He will hit in the majors and looks to be well rounded enough to get on base at decent clip and hit for power.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why look at his minor league stats when we’ve already seen him in the majors?

Career major league stats:
768 PA
38 HR
44 BB
248 SO
.256/.303/.481

The man strikes out over 30% of the time.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because

he played in the majors at his age 22/23 seasons…and still managed to post an ISOp of 225.

If the Dodgers are not going to be players in free agency, they either have to draft well or make shrewd enough moves to acquire talent.

We don’t develop power hitting postional players that well. Look at our recent history. Kemp’s like the last one since Beltre.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

To add

Shrewd trade: Andre Ethier.

We need to do that more.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need to find a way to get Aaron Hill

w/o giving anything up. Fat chance though, I think he’s still cost-controlled for another year or two.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on Nate

he did all his major league damage in 2008. He sucked in 2009 and looks like he sucks in 2010. The word is that he is about to be replaced by Smoak in 30 days.

He walked 24 times in over 400 at bats last year. His minor league OB skills are not materializing because of the huge holes in his swing.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Loney only continues to produce at the level he does (which isn’t horrible), I’d still take him 99 out of 100 over Davis. Davis has had his chance.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Show me a team

that has developed more then one power hitter that wasn’t drafting in the top ten besides the Phillies.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fielder wants Tex money. Not gonna happen for us.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Moot point

we don’t need one

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Pujols sign an extension?

Carlos Pena? Dude hit 39 homers last year.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would want a longer term solution then Pena

Dude’s gunna be 34ish.

That said, if Loney can show me something(!!!) this year and slg over .450 I’ll stop trying to replace him.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if he

puts up an OB of .380 and slugs .430?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh

I am starting to wonder if the thing that makes the most sense is to punt 2011-12. If the Dodgers can’t replace Manny, does their window close? Will it make more sense to prepare for the future — 2013 and beyond — than soldier on with, say, an 83-win team with a good core but lacking several pieces?

Sitting through two terrible years would be a high price to pay, no doubt. But couldn’t they get some real talent with high draft picks and trading Ethier and Broxton?

I don’t know. Maybe not.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you think Manny is more valuable then he is

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

who knows

maybe Kyle Russell blows it up for us!!!

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's certainly possible.

I’ll put it this way: I think he’s the Dodgers’ best hitter. I think the Dodgers are a borderline playoff team this year — that is, maybe things will go their way and maybe they won’t, but they’ll be in the thick of things. I think when a borderline playoff team loses its best hitter things do not bode well for the future.

That said, it’s a long way to go from there to “Dodgers should punt next year.” I may be overreacting.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially when Jayson Werth

will be in RF and Andre in LF:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just can’t like Werth after him being a Philly. I just can’t.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can get over it quickly

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys like Werth scare me

Mostly cause his really good seasons have all been in a very hitter friendly home park. Its not like he’s great, so you factor in even a slight regression with the fact that he’s likely to be demanding a contract somewhere around what Jason Bay got, and the albatross factor begins to creep up into scary territory.

by EMDarrow on Apr 16, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possible yeah. and Moving to Dodger Stadium

wouldn’t help his numbers, though when healthy (accent on when) he showed good power potential in DS as well. I love the guy but I know what you mean, and I’ve always understood why the Dodgers didn’t want to re sign him (given his two straight years of freak injuries).

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

for $850k

they should have signed him. It wouldn’t even have been a multi year deal at that point either. Bad, bad move by Ned.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I felt that way at the time and obviously seems like a bargain now

But again he was injured much of his stint with LA and they didn’t feel confident in his wrist health. I would have done it in a heartbeat anyway knowing his potential. But I get their point of view.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

850k is a no-brainer and a drop in the bucket.

when you factor in Andruw and Schmidt. You can’t really win this argument.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing, I said I'd do it in a hearbeat

I merely said at the time I understood at least why the Dodgers hesitated. I would have done it anyway. And yes esp compared to those other stupid contracts.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I think of when hearing Werth's name now

Is him getting heckled mercilessly at Dodgers stadium in the playoffs two years ago. I’m pretty sure I heard the term Werthless at least 50000000 times that night.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 16, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny may be our top hitter right now, but Kemp is getting better and better and Ethier may be close to his current level as it is. There should be some good free agent outfielders after this year and while we won’t replace his full value, we should be able to get someone who is pretty good.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends when the new TV money starts coming in

The new TV contract is the key to McCourt’s escape from debt service and deferred contracts.

Theoretically, he could raise cash this year by signing a deal now and then borrowing against it. He’s unlikely to do that, though, because he’ll get a better deal if he waits.

(TV contract is the fan’s escape, too. He’ll have to put a good team on the field to keep up the ratings & ad revenue.)

by MartinGreen on Apr 16, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pujols is the biggest pipe dream any of us could ever have. He won’t be going anywhere, especially here.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

My biggest pipe dream doesn't involve baseball players

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I meant to say biggest pipe dream any of us could ever have…about baseball. I thought about that after I posted though, lol.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

funny panda story

my friend is a waitress in scottsdale at a sushi place and about a month ago panda was one of her customers.

-He LOVES Ed Hardy clothing and bling
-He sexually harassed her all night in spanish
-He’s a horrible tipper.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha

I saw him in Scottsdale when I was out there for ST. Can’t confirm the last two but he’s definitely living the Ed Hardy lifestyle. Pandouche.

by LA Taco on Apr 16, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know I'll never refer to him as anything else

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 16, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fyi per Rotowire:
Edgar Renteria v. Vicente Padilla – 8-for-19 (.421), 2 HR, 6 RBI, 1:6 BB:K (.450 OBP)
Aubrey Huff v. Vicente Padilla – 8-for-12 (.667), 1 HR, 7 RBI, 1:1 BB:K (.714 OBP)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, Huff is left-handed :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea Matthews was traded to the Mets.

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I believe Freddy Sanchez went to Hollywood High. I recall playing against him back in the day.

by Nolij on Apr 16, 2010 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

You'd be wrong

he was a star at Burbank High, my niece went to school with him. Nice guy

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

It wouldn’t surprise me if Hollywood had a different Freddy Sanchez that was a 5’8" middle infielder.

by Nolij on Apr 16, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

very true

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

High school and college
Sanchez graduated in 1996 from Burbank High School in Burbank, California, where he was a consistent three-year varsity player. In his senior year he was named MVP of the talent-filled foothill league of the CIF. He also starred in the Daily News Bernie Milligan All-Star Game, where he earned MVP honors. While in high school, he played on the same summer league team as former teammate Jack Wilson.
His success in high school was nothing short of miraculous. Sanchez was born with a severely pigeon-toed left foot and a club right foot, and his parents had received a medical diagnosis that he might never walk. He underwent surgery to correct his foot problems at 13 months, and then had to undergo years of physical therapy before he could walk properly.1

I’ve always liked Freddy because I was also born pigeon toed and had to wear braces as a toddler to correct the problem. They over compensated and I’ve been walking like a duck ever since.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thus “Duck Talk” ?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Romo

He and fellow reliever Dan Runzler grew up as big Dodger fans. From Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News:

“Oh sure, I’d boo Barry Bonds,” said Runzler, who grew up in the San Fernando Valley. “Everybody did. Yeah, I was one of the guys who … tended to yell at the Giants.”
In his rookie season, he left tickets for them, and the whole group showed up in Dodgers gear. Romo was chatting with his blue-clad family outside the clubhouse after a game when manager Bruce Bochy and GM Brian Sabean walked past, shaking their heads. Bochy gave Romo a piece of advice: “Let ‘em know if they wear the other team’s colors, it’ll be the last ticket you’ll get from me.”

If we see Runzler run his hands through his hair, we’ll know why:

“Yeah, I have a Brad Penny Dodgers jersey,” Runzler said.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

My girlfriend when I was 19, her family name was Romo. She and her family were big Dodger fans too. We spent several summer nights in the left field pavilion in the 1980 season.

Maybe Runzler had an Alyssa Milano crush. Might have “Poison Ivy II” prominent in his DVD collection.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch! Lol. I actually decided to read this one though :)

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

SF

I respect the Giants. They have the best pitcher in the game, a wicked #2, and a couple of lefties who can be dominant when on their game. They have one of the purest hitters in the game, lots of complimentary parts, and a shut-down back of the bullpen. I don’t consider them a joke [any more]. What really scares me [figure of speech] is if they hang in there, then swing a major deal at the deadline for a bat. This is me giving them their props for a solid beginning of the season.

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Luckily

they need Posey for the future and Bumgarner looks like damaged goods so the two best chips they have for getting that impact bat are probably not available.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention fellow top prospect John Q. Manslaughter

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

we’re not even out of the first month. Performance up to Game 9 is virtually meaningless. I would hold my props until the end of May. Baseball is a 162 game season. It’s not football (or even basketball) where two weeks truly can ruin or make an entire season.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather be 7 - 2 then 4 - 5

however I’m hoping I won’t be using the same title the next time I do this preview.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude.

WE GET IT.

Sheesh. One comment correcting this is all that is needed, if that. This is a blog not the New York Times. It’s a pet peeve, I get it, but maybe you can stop now?

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do the Dodgers have the 28th overall pick? Shouldn’t they be 27th?

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions  

i think

a team didn’t sign one of their draft picks.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok, makes sense.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Scioscia’s Tragic Illness is rightfully worried about tonight’s pitching options. Good breakdown here.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I was just reading Jon's post and thought the same thing

I think I would seriously consider putting Haeger in the bullpen and bring up a starter for his spot if we need to. Sherrill, Broxton, and Weaver should all be unavailable tonight. Troncoso has to be the arm and Padilla has yet to even throw 100 pitches this year.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Welcome to the majors"

Your first start is against Tim Lincecum. Go get ’im!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let Russ Ortiz

start that game. I want to concentrate on winning Friday and Sunday.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to Saturday's game

And if I have to watch Russ Ortiz start against Lincecum, I just might set myself on fire. And then Spawn of Kavula would be without a father. Do you want that on your conscience?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Padilla might be in “take one for the team” mode tonight, pitching 6 or perhaps into the 7th no matter what.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer take one for the team mode be tomorrow against Lincecum.

by K3vo on Apr 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately they don’t appear to have that choice, unless a surprise roster move is made today.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

pitch Haeger for 18 consecutive innings. It’ll work.

by K3vo on Apr 16, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this yesterday, and I figured you would know the answer.

After the marathon game on Wednesday, could the Dodgers have sent down Kershaw and Billingsley and bring up 2 reliever who could be used if necessary last night, then bring Kershaw and Billingsley back up in time for their next starts?

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what I'm talking about

but if you option a guy, doesn’t he have to spend 10 days in the minors?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assumed that would be the answer. The only reason I doubted that though was the stunt the Dodgers pulled a few years ago where they sent down Kershaw and he made his next scheduled start.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw was sent down for 20 days in 2008. It was no stunt.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he get sent down at one point and not even pitch a game in Las Vegas? If I recall correctly, he didn’t even actually travel to Las Vegas, just hung out in LA until he was re-activated.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was referring to Kershaw getting sent to AAA in late August 2008. He still made his next start on September 3rd. I would assume it’s because Las Vegas was not going to make the minor league playoffs.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

I see you are referring to the August maneuver, and not earlier in the season.

Still, much easier to do that with Kershaw the rookie than Kershaw the established pitcher

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is right, although you can call someone back as an injury replacement inside of the 10 days

But the move would scream shenanigans, and likely wouldn’t be worth the hassle and/or goodwill lost

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we had picked up Chad Gaudin

we wouldn’t having this discussion.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

From mock draft 4 from mlbbonusbaby.com
28. Los Angeles Dodgers – Gary Brown, OF, Cal State Fullerton – Speaking of good defenders, Brown could turn out to be the best big leaguer in the entire draft class, depending on how much you value defense. A burner at the plate and in the field, Brown has steadily risen throughout the season, as he’s really matured at the plate and gotten a chance to show what he can do in center field. The Dodgers typically value athleticism and instincts, and Brown shows both. Previously: NR, 46, 46.

I honestly do not think we will see anyone but a pitcher drafted in the first round. Stick to the plan, lol.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

college OF

that late in the first round? Doubt it.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same here. Some of the hitters looked interesting, but the great hitters are all higher in the draft and likely won’t fall to the Dodgers. I wish I knew more about this year’s draft class right now. I’m going to start using mlbbonusbaby.com to find out more.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

that site

kicks ass. The site owner is really knowledgable.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers and college OFs

he usually takes them in the early middle rounds if you look at the past couple of drafts.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to pick that HS pitcher from Pasadena with the best curve in America (or so they say).

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe “they”

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand has a career .330 BA and .527 SLG in 91 AB at Dodger Stadium.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

So just to confirm, Kuo and Belisario

won’t be activated til the road trip, is that what it’s looking like? Wouldn’t mind some fresh blood for the ’pen before that. For this weekend, we have to hope for some innings-eating from Padilla, Haeger and Kershaw and frankly Haeger seems the one most likely to do that. A Brent Leach or someone could help for a few days. (Cough-phantom-DL-co ugh-Sherill-cough)

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I just want to point out .. . . .

Sherill only gave up 1 run last night, clearly he is turning the corner
/s

by K3vo on Apr 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness, he did get the double play ball which would have gotten him out of the inning. Not his fault that Casey Blake punted it.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair point too

As I say below, he looked a bit better and could’ve been out of that inning with no harm done. I’d rather see Russ Ortiz go, which he probably will when Beli or Kuo are back. But to give them more energy and fresh arm in the pen, it was just another idea.

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was busy charting Matt Magill’s pitches.

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Actually the last two times I've seen him

he has looked better to me, I mean he looked less wobbly than he had, but that’s hardly saying much. He’s often been a pitcher who gets himself in trouble and then always gets himself out of it. Right now he’s struggling too much so he cant do the latter.

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Kuo, I guess it would depend on how he feels today. It doesn’t seem likely to me that either one will be activated before the road trip, at least.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean after those 5 innings pitched ;)

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s the difference between a Bowker and a Bocock?

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Bowker is a much better hitter

(though you could possibly the same about me vs Bocock)

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Baseball HQ
He made two starts against the Giants last year, posting a 3.27 ERA, 6.5 Dom, 2.0 Cmd, and 4.01 xERA. He has a career 4.44 ERA in 26.3 IP at Dodger Stadium, with good skills: a 7.9 Dom and 5.8 Cmd.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Dom & Cmd? I’m stupid. Dominance and Command? Sounds like a good SF party.

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Or a meeting of the RNC at Voyeur.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny Stuff at MCC
Hitter to watch
Garret Anderson. If you don’t want to watch him, don’t worry. The entire Giants’ scouting staff will be. They want to get a good read on this up-and-comer before he’s a free agent this offseason. Hey, they’ll need a backup plan in case Nate Schierholtz has a bad March.

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2010/4/15/1424388/giants-dodgers-series-preview#storyjump

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

1400 posts…holy crap.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

They’ve had that thread going since yesterday morning.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok. I thought it was just up today.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still

they are the busiest of SB Nation blogs. They might even make some decent ad money, they get 1/2 million page views per month.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy hell. I didn’t realize hate that strong built up such big numbers.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah they do have a massive following. I can’t imagine what it’ll be like if they ever succeed in the playoffs.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fairness there's also not much

competition as far as good Giants blogs go. There are quite a few good Dodger blogs. Not that MCC isn’t a good blog anyway, not to take anything away from them, but there is less competition. I know Giants fans who go there after suffering through idiotic comments on stagnant SFGate Giants posts.

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point, I didn’t think about that.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone check the Diamondbacks SB Nation site after last night?

I’m interested to see how they felt about Mr. Endre Ethier :)

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Woo

In town in July and just bought tickets to two games, thanks IRS!

by K3vo on Apr 16, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Broxton has now pitched three straight days 8 times in his career.

He did go four straight once, when he was Saito’s setup man during the not-so-fun (except for James “teasing us with 9 HR” Loney) September 2007, and the results weren’t pretty:

Sep 6 (at CHC): Entered up 2-1, 1/3 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, allowed 3-run HR to 1st batter Soriano, blown save (in the 7th)
Sep 7 (at SF): Entered tie game, 1/3 IP, 1 hit, walk-off HR to Daniel Ortmeier, loss
Sep 8 (at SF): Entered up 6-2; a 1-2-3 bottom of the 8th, hold
Sep 9 (at SF): Entered up 2-1; 2/3 IP, 1 hit, 1 strikeout, allowed 3-run HR to 1st batter Ray Durham , blown save (in the 8th)

After allowing 3 HR in those 4 games, Broxton has allowed just 8 HR in his last 157 games.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

all 8 of those HR (in his last 157 career games) have come on the road.

Stupid outlying postseason homer at home.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, the MCC posters are not friendly

They were crap talking whoever wrote the “Dodgers Need to Fill Roster with Best Players” article. I can’t remember if it was Phil or Eric.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

They are the most profane

SB Nation blog site. I like the writer but ignore the comments. If our commentators were like that I’d dump this gig. You guys are great.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I swear I’ve seen the phrase “suck it Martin” at least 20 times today. What I wonder is why hate on Martin so much, instead of Ethier or Kemp?

Yeah, I’ve checked out a few of the sites on sbnation, and MCC is by far the worst when it comes to profanity. The most respectful one I’ve seen is (surprise surprise) the Cardinals site. The Rockies was very nice as well.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grant of MCC was filling out a mock allstar card for 2007 or 2008

And when he got to NL Catcher he put down Yadier Molina and Brian McCann and said he excluded Martin because he’s a Dodgers. and responded with “SUCK IT! Russell Martin!”

by Tripon on Apr 16, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve never gone over there (well, maybe a couple times near the end of last season) before today really. There was a link and I wanted to check it out.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I go over there to read their threads. Sometimes they are funny. I made the mistake of posting some Dodger love, and got ripped a new one. Now if I post, it applies only to baseball. I’ll save the Dodger Love for you guys. I like to say “Suck it Panda”, if that bothers anyone here, I’ll stop.

by Skunkburner on Apr 16, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with it, or with them saying “suck it Martin”, I just don’t know why they wouldn’t pick one of our best players, lol.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

They pick on their fair share of players. You just gotta read through their threads long enough.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was that mild altercation with Martin and Panda, right? I know words were exchanged last year.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do think they have some of the funniest gifs and photshopped pictures out there

I find myself “loling” just going through some of the old pictures they pull out of the depths of the internet…but yes most of it is profane garbage

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Apr 16, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They must have some tech guys on staff, they had at least 30 edited pictures or gifs in that thread from yesterday. Some were pretty good.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha must be all of those silicon valley computer geeks

they are indeed wizards with photoshop, and they always seem to be able to turn any embarrassing Dodger play into a gif. with ease.

One of the funniest ones from last year was a gif. where pandouche looked back at 2nd base and tripped over his own feet while running the bases. They pasted in a cupcake over 2nd base, it was pretty classic.

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Apr 16, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen that and I LOVE that one, haha.

They had one with Kemp catching a ball then dropping it and falling down :( It made me sad.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep saw they have that up already

and Russell getting taken out at the plate from last year is another popular one…I’ll admit I chuckle when they post that crab mascot of theirs whacking tommy lasorda repeatedly with a bat, after he had fallen over on the third base line

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Apr 16, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a problem with Suck it Panda

It should be Suck it Pandouche

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Apr 16, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's from last years game in sept

When Pandouche thought he was hit by a pitch and the benches cleared. I believe it was renteria who got in Martins face. Uribe hit a two run bomb to win the game. I wad there, it sucked. Also Velez upended Martin at home plate. I think you can check out my profile pic to see what I’m talking about.

by Skunkburner on Apr 16, 2010 12:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The thing about that

is it isn’t even funny, wasn’t ever funny but now it’s also really old. I don’t mind profanity, I don’t even mind Dodger hating because it goes with the territory, but there’s a lot of that crap there that’s not even clever Dodger hating. I know there are some good funny commenters there but they seem outnumbered but the “Suck it Martin” and “lol-dgers” crowd who seem to have OCD + Tourette’s Syndrome.

As Phil said, it’s a worthy stop for Grant’s blogging and you can skip the commenters.

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please no Tourette’s jokes Udog. I know its just a joke, but it’s still a misunderstood disorder that is no fun to deal with (speaking from experience).

by UCLADodger32 on Apr 16, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand (apologies)

Actually I have a cousin with it, you’re right it’s not fun. Those people can’t help it. People on Giants blogs can definitely help it. ;-) Cheers,

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, I get it. I was diagnosed with it when i was 8, and its basically the only thing I’m sensitive about. It just get portrayed really poorly and most people just dont have a clue about what it really is.

by UCLADodger32 on Apr 16, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're totally right man, again apologies :-)

My poor (2nd) cousin gets so sleepy from the meds they give him, though he’s doing a lot better these days. Anyway… Obnoxious Giants fans should just be called what they are: Asses. :)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats something we can agree on!

by UCLADodger32 on Apr 16, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

MMC needs some orbit gum.

I game thread over there, over 300 F-Bombs. I’m no saint, but I do have some language control.

by Skunkburner on Apr 16, 2010 12:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

ATTN: skunkburner

if you want to post your own pictures here, you do need to upload them somewhere internet accessible first (flickr, imageshack.us, or whatever). Then it is pretty straightforward to put them into a FanPost, FanShot or a comment.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank You.

Why did you change your name from El Lay Dave? I find it very clever. Wish I had thought of it.

by Skunkburner on Apr 16, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Eric and Phil invited me on as a writer, I decided a real name would be better.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top NFL draft prospect Gerald McCoy

repping a LA dodgers hat in his ESPN interview . .. I Like

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 16, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Watching the Dodgers beats the Giants- great
Watching the Dodgers beat the Giants in SF- even better
Watching the Dodgers dominate the Giants in SF, and then posting pictures of Bison’s on the MCC blog- priceless

It wont happen again, as I realize it wasnt so nice to the people who run the blog, but I dont care for those “suck it” fans, who bring absolutely nothing to that blog.

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 16, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I didn’t find it too enjoyable when Phillie fans were trolling out of their minds over here last October….

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most annoying fans in person: Cubs.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Sox fans are brutal.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their sense of entitlement is terrible

but the bad Yankee fans are the worst. I know a lot of great Yankee fans, but the ones who aren’t knowledgeable are death to me.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most annoying fans in person:

(tie) Everyone’s.

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally cant stand

Cubs fans(definitely), Mets fans, Padres fans, Giants fans, Red Sox fans, Angels fans, and I’m sure New York Yankees fans will be bunch of band wagoners and loud mouths

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Apr 16, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cubbies fans are the worst.

I saw some truly despicable Cubby fan behavior at DS during the ’08 NLDS.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went to a couple games in the 4 game series last year

and after about the 19th “Foo-Kuh-Doh-May” chant, I almost pulled a Vincent Van Gogh

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Apr 16, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prospect Hot Sheet
No. 2 CARLOS SANTANA, C INDIANS
Team: Triple-A Columbus (International)
Age: 24
Why He’s Here: .423/.516/.962 (11-for-26), 2 2B, 4 HR, 8 RBIs, 8 R, 5 BB, 2 SO, 1-for-1 SB
The Scoop: Santana opened the season with a birthday bash, clubbing two home runs on Opening Day, also the day he turned 24. Since then, he’s clubbed two more balls over the fence. Santana had surgery on a broken hamate bone his right hand, but it looks safe to say that the power is back. Santana is simply a dynamic force of controlled aggression at the plate, showing excellent plate discipline while taking a vicious hack when he does swing. And with just two strikeouts, he hasn’t missed much when he has let the bat fly.
No. 9 ETHAN MARTIN, RHP DODGERS
Team: high Class A Inland Empire (California)
Age: 20
Why He’s Here: 1-0, 0.00, 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 9 SO
The Scoop: Coming off a strong first full professional season in low Class A in which he struck out 120 hitters in 100 innings, Martin has taken his mid-90s fastball with him to the more challenging environs of the high Class A California League. No problem. Making his debut on the road against Rancho Cucamonga on April 10, he overpowered the Quakes for five innings. Martin let the Rancho load the bases in the first inning, then allowed only one more baserunner the rest of the night and struck out the side twice.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

“a dynamic force of controlled aggression” is one of the greatest grouping of words in history. That is awesomely descriptive.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That makes me feel a bit ill.

by kinbote on Apr 16, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going to the game tonight

Just moved back from Hawaii after 2+ years so it’s our first Dodgers game in a while. We’re stoked. Couple questions here for regulars of DS:

We’re in the left field loge (section 157), where is the best place in proximity to our seats to get grilled Dodger Dogs? Also, while BP is going on can we go down closer to the field and then just return to our seats when the game starts, or do they not even let you down close unless you have a ticket?

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

We were on Oahu on the north shore.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

Im from Hilo originally.

by EephusBlue on Apr 16, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We were going to school on Oahu and just finished up. We went to the BI and vacationed on the Hilo side last year, close to Pahoa. It’s a beautiful area.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool. UH Manoa?

Hilo is nice but BORING. I had to get off that rock. But now i desperately want to go back to Honolulu.

by EephusBlue on Apr 16, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

BYU Hawaii. It’s a small private school. Yeah we’re missing it already.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stayed in a condo just south of there six years ago. Nice, tranquil area, how did you ever manage to get to class instead of the beach?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more question. Are they strict on the size of bags you bring in? Per Dodgers.com:

Backpacks and bags/purses larger than 14 inches square are not allowed in the ballpark. Parents are advised to bring their baby supplies in a diaper bag 14 inches or smaller.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year

I would bring a big backpack as a diaper bag. I believe it’s bigger than 14 inches, but I don’t really know. They certianly looked through it, but never questioned the size.

That said, maybe this is a new policy.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This has been the policy

for quite a while. I bring in backpacks, diaper bags, and target shopping bags and never get questioned. You might be stopped if you brought in a huge beach bag.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more thing

If you bring your own drinks in plastic bottles (soda), which I recommend doing, Don’t open them ahead of time, or else they won’t let you bring it in.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for all the info.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

My pleasure. I take pride in parking outside the stadium now and bringing my own food.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have a kid in diapers and you bring your own food and park outside the stadium?

You, sir, are a better man than I. I park inside and feed my spawn whatever entrails they put into Super Dodger Dogs.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

My kid is so picky right now that I would be so pleased if he would eat a hot dog.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm not mistaken...

I believe they have grilled Dodger Dogs at the Express station not too far down from where you’ll be sitting… and they certainly have Garlic Fries at that Express station — the only place in the loge where they have them.

Unless they’ve added garlic fries somewhere else in the loge. Or unless I’m wrong.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect. Thanks man.

by Jesse S. on Apr 16, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I could go but stuck in Bay area

Man I hope they win. Its unbearable to deal with Giants fans up here. Most dont even know the players on the team and yet still talk shit.

by EephusBlue on Apr 16, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you there

also an SF resident. Giants fans are a combination of overly cocky and/or overly despondent about the team and fairly ignorant about other teams in their division (in general). Even my less obnoxious Giants fans friends are not that versed in DOdgers, except the ones they hate. I had a coworker 2 years ago who had no idea who Matt Kemp was at all.

he knows who he is now though. ;-)

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by underdog on Apr 16, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh he'll know Kemp even more....

After Matty blasts an HR off of tiny tim.

by EephusBlue on Apr 16, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then/Than

First graph…

The pitching has been even better then expected…

Better THAN expected.

by RandallP on Apr 16, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

...

Under Mark DeRosa

and your RF is Bowkers, you probably need a little more from your LF then what DeRosa can deliver.

Need a little more from your LF THAN what DeRosa can deliver.

by RandallP on Apr 16, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Then is a time element. A sequential thing. In this case the key word is “more.” That is the clue that you should use the word “than,” because you’re making a comparison. Another key word to keep your eyes peeled for when making comparisons is “better.” Better than. Better could also be used in a time sequence.

“Russell Martin starting hitting better, then his fantasy stock rose.”

by RandallP on Apr 16, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I get what you are correcting. I just have no idea why you find it necessary to do so.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instead you should talk about how the Dodgers are going to take it to the Giants :D

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Zito

He may never earn the silly salary he was given but he’s more then adequate as part of this rotation.

He’s more THAN adequate.

by RandallP on Apr 16, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

while they are here

there should lead a lesson on how to use “your” and “you’re.” Seriously.

by JJ 24 on Apr 16, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that

pick at number three is looking good.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you guys think he’ll approach 40 jacks?

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gun to my head, I’d say 33-35 jacks for Kemp in 2010. I would be absolutely thrilled to see 40.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Apr 16, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

If he continues taking advantage of the pitches he sees throughout the year, it’s entirely possibly he’ll jack 14 or 15 more this season. He hit 3 or less HRS in 3 months last season. If he averages 6.5 homers a month that’s 39 baby! One odd homer and that’s 40! I think this is totally doable. Him batting 2nd means he’ll see better pitches.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

With Ethier hitting behind him and Manny behind him, Kemp will definitely be seeing a lot of pitches. The amazing thing about Kemp’s power is how balanced it is; I don’t think he’s hit a homerun this season not to CF. That’s just crazy to me.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine how good he'll be in his late 20's, early 30's

when he learns to turn on mistake pitches, a la Bonds. Bonds wasn’t a crazy dead-pull hitter until very late in his career.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I snagged Kemp 10th then Mauer 11th in a 10 team league draft I had. I’m 2nd place (head to head) and up 10-4 at the moment :)

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure was. I also nabbed Heyward and Strasburg in the 16-17 rounds I believe. They may not be excellent this year, but they’ve got amazing potential and it can’t hurt to have them :)

I’ve just gotta wait another 2 months for Strasburg.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure was. I also nabbed Heyward and Strasburg in the 16-17 rounds I believe. They may not be excellent this year, but they’ve got amazing potential and it can’t hurt to have them :)

I’ve just gotta wait another 2 months for Strasburg.

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

They may not be excellent this year

Impossible.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has given himself the name. I understand he never liked The Bison. Although it is pretty lame to give yourself a nickname.

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He never liked "The Bison?"

Didn’t he put it on his shoes and explain to Rod Stilanovich why he’s called The Bison?

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He asked the designer for this year to put The Thing on the shoes. I have not seen a closeup of those yet.

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kung Fu Panda and The Answer

both gave themselves those nicknames. Yeah, you’re right, pretty lame…

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here it is:

Pablo Sandoval, a slightly rotund third baseman who wowed the Giants as a September callup last year, was tagged with “Kung Fu Panda” by teammate Barry Zito and has also been called “The Round Mound of Pound.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090206&content_id=3804552&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 16, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would

seriously question a person passing over Pujols for Kemp at this point.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you guys are over-valuing Kemp in fantasy. While Kemp might be number 1 in fantasy (right now), it doesn’t necessarily mean drafting him #1 is a smart move. For one thing, he is an outfielder, and there are a ton of outfielders who rake that could have been had in later rounds. Drafting somebody like Hanley Ramirez or Joe Mauer is arguably the smarter play, because of how thin those positions are to be drafted in future rounds. If you didn’t draft Mauer or McCann, you end up drafting someone like Geovanny Soto in the 10th and hoping he rebounds. If you don’t draft Kemp, there is an army of power hitting outfielders who could be drafted thereafter.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh that’s obvious. I’d take at least 8 or 9 guys over Kemp, which is why it was perfect that I’d take him 10th overall like I did :)

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think your response applies to my post.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ya, I misread your post. I though you were saying that one should draft Kemp over Pujols as opposed to the other way around.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought so. Albert is too dang good.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 16, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuo is back in Los Angeles tonight “to continue his rehab,” per the Dodger game notes. I’m sure we’ll here more after Torre meets with reporters.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 2:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Ethier gets his 2009 MLB Clutch Performer of the Year award tonight on the field before the game. Don Mattingly will present him with the award.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

That is disgusting.
The victims were a cop and his family members. One of the witnesses, the one who may have dotted his eye, another cop. Those idiots picked the wrong guys to fuck with.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I finally found something worse than the gangster who bitch slapped a guy in front of three of his kids at DS last year.

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Anderson signed a four-year extension with the A’s, through 2013. It bought out one year of FA, plus has options for two more.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

What a bad trade for ARI.

Brett Anderson is quickly becoming lefty Haren..

Not to mention all the other talent they gave up.

Going to miss my 3rd consecutive game tonight:(
GO DODGERS!!

by NotJoeTorre on Apr 16, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

GENIUS move by Oakland. He will win at least one Cy during this contract.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Greinke, Felix, Lee, CC, Lester, Beckett, will be where? lol

by Ivdown on Apr 16, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where on the ballot? Who knows. But Anderson will get his during the contract.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Anderson is a beast. Hes got one coming.

by NotJoeTorre on Apr 16, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Granick will be Dodger Stadium, of course.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you keeping track of all these awards you are giving out?

I have a feeling they will go the way of contract incentives that call for so-and-so to have a top 3 salary at his position. Once the fourth guy gets that clause, it’s chaos, man. Chaos!!!

by Eric Stephen on Apr 16, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many awards am I giving out? It’s not a stretch to say that the best young (under 25) lefty in the game will win a Cy in the next 6 years.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m almost positive that you have Felix winning a Cy Young during that span.

by Michael White on Apr 16, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, I picked Felix for this year.

by silverwidow on Apr 16, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then Steven winning the next 6 after that in pinstripes?

by delias man on Apr 16, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those boys at MCC really hate Russ. Must of been when he almost beat down Fat Ichiro.

by NotJoeTorre on Apr 16, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Cool fact from dodger.com about Haeger:

The knuckleballer struck out 12 Marlins in six innings in his season debut, the most strikeouts to open a season by a Dodgers starter since Don Drysdale fanned 14 in 1960.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 16, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Loney as he hits arb years

Since Prince and Gonzo, power upgrade types, aren’t coming here, I’d rather our Mustachio focus on keeping the core together while adding the AA,AAA types over the next two years.

There’s something to be said for keeping Brox, Billz, Loney, Martin, Kemp and Ethier together…then adding Kid K, DeWitt

Next year LF and SP
2012 SP, SS and 3B

Mostly in house I hope

Keep ’em together!

by megaballs on Apr 16, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

there is

something to be said for keeping a core together.

That said, if they suck balls, they need to go.

by npurcell on Apr 16, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree on needing a LF.

We already have a solid LF for next year, his name is Ethier.

We can either get a good RF or move Kemp to RF and get a good CF. Ethier was almost the worst defensive RF last season (being only 8.2 UZR points better than the worst, Hawpe).

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 16, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

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OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Current 40-man roster count: 40
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2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

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