Chick Hearn Statue to be unveiled tomorrow
I kind of lost my love of the Lakers when Chickie passed away. I hope they did him justice.
about 2 years ago
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The broadcasts really aren’t the same with just Stu. Sure I fist bump when the Lakers win, marvel at Kobe’s ability, but once Kobe retires, I dunno what keeps me watching Laker basketball. The next big stud I guess.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
now if they were still playing at the Forum, that’d be a different ballgame.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Apr 19, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I really dont remember a lot of Chick
just because Im young and he passed before I started to really follow the Lakers(I didnt move to LA until 2000). But question, are they doing it at the game? If they are, I get to see it in person :)
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Apr 19, 2010 6:19 PM PDT reply actions
It’ll be a ceremony outside Staples Center (Star Plaza) starting at 4:30 p.m. It’ll be televised on FSW for those who cannot make it.
I’ll be working the ceremony.
Do you work for Staples, AEG, the Lakers, a PR house...?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 19, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
damn
I was hoping it was be something on the court before the game..
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Apr 19, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I grew up listening to Chick
and I agree with John, Lakers basketball just hasn’t been as lively or fun since his passing. Hope that changes eventually, but I’m not holding my breath anytime soon.
:-(
I find it difficult to listen to Laker radio broadcasts since Chick left us
But I can still watch the Lakers on TV; I simply tune out the announcers as needed.
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Chick and Vin....
….an interesting comparison. I hear where you are coming from with Chick, but I am of the opinion that on the play by play side, they Lakers did ok in getting competent replacements. I loved Chick, but I can handle the current guys.
My concern is that the Dodgers will not do as well, and by that I mean giving Steiner, Collins, et all the mic full time when Vin is gone. They should do better than that.
No matter who ends up with the job once Vin decides to hang up the microphone
There is going to be a big drop off. Who could even come close and is actually available for the gig? I would hate to be that guy – talk about a no-win situation.
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Maybe Paul Sunderland can step in for a year :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 19, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
the worst spot would be to try to replace Vin. That would be like the prospect who replaced Babe Ruth in the Yankees lineup…. no way you succeed, you will always be compared to who you just replaced..
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Apr 19, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT...
…that is the thinking that dooms us to Chalie Steiner and his ilk. No one is Vin, of course, but at least get someone with some sense as to what makes Vin great. I really don’t think the other broadcasters even get it.
agree
I dont need to be screamed at by Steiner.. I have eyes, I saw what happened…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Apr 19, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
So if as Vin’s replacement we get the Gene Bartow equivalent, we’d better be satisfied.
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by David Young on Apr 19, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Chick was the man
One of the best play-by-play men ever, and near the top (maybe Johnny Miller is ahead of him) on the brutal honesty scale. I love watching the Lakers play on the “94 by 50 hunk of wood.”
Of the current Laker broadcasters, I really like Sprio Dedes, and wish he was the TV PBP man. The other three, I don’t care for.
Like I said
I never really heard Chick, but I dont mind the Lakers guys on TV now at all. And when I hear the Clippers guys.. I want to kill myself. I am really scared at who will replace Vin…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Apr 19, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Mike Smith is terrible. But Ralph Lawler is generally regarded pretty highly….
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Bingo
Anyone who was lucky enough to listen to the Lawler / Walton days will think fondly of Mike Smith.
The Chick statue is a great idea
as was naming the one street in front of Staples Center “Chick Hearn Court”, but one of the side streets needs to be renamed “Dribble Drive”.
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by David Young on Apr 19, 2010 8:34 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Probably not the right thread to ask this question...
but if Russ Ortiz does not get claimed, we aren’t responsible for paying his entire 2010 salary are we?
by Brandon Lennox on Apr 19, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions
wow, this makes even less sense then
I really thought that we’d only be responsible for his time in the big leagues…Management had to know that he’d get DFA within the 1st month even if he did well due to Kuo and Belisario coming back. I really don’t get this at all.
However, couldn’t we have simply optioned him and saved a ton of money. According to MLB the Show (my trusty video game), Russ Ortiz still has at least one option year left, and we could have easily created the 40 man roster spot by putting Wade on the 60 day DL? The we would have only had to pay him the lower minor league salary. Or can a guy with more than 6 years of service time not be optioned? I forget
by Brandon Lennox on Apr 20, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone with 5 years service time can refuse any assignment to the minors.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
If Ortiz accepts assignment to the minors, the Dodgers will save by only paying his minor league salary. Otherwise he will get released, and get all ~$646k
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Therefore, no chance in hell Ortiz accepts the minor league assignment.
Not a bad gig for him. Make a team he has no business of making. Get blown up the first 10 games of the season. Get cut and then collect a full years pay.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
having made the millions he has made, I doubt he’s playing for money at this point, especially an “only” extra $500k. He’s playing to stick in the big leagues, and the Dodgers were the only team that came calling this winter. His one shred of a chance to make it back to the big leagues most likely lies with the Dodgers.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You would think that
But many professionals of all sports don’t know how to handle their money. Did you see that article on Derrick Coleman and the 85+ million that he blew through?
by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 20, 2010 9:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
MLB players have a far better track record in this regard than NBA or NFL players.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I loved listening to Chick
But he’s really not comparable to Vinny. Chick was really a glorified color commentator. But, as a play-by-play guy for the radio, as Stu would say, "he did not … get it done.’
If I could non rec a comment I’d non rec this one. Nothing personal. BB doesn’t have time for stories.
It's not the lack of stories for me.
It’s the lack of game-calling. Chick was heavy on the sizzle and light on the steak. Dude had style in spades, but unless you were watching on TV, you wouldn’t know what was going on in the game. I guess I would summarize Chick Hearn as an excellent TV commentator, but so-so radio guy.
we simply disagree
I grew up listening to Chick when very few Laker games were on the TV.
by meercatjohn on Apr 20, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Totally disagree
Our opinions are as big a set of opposites as Tiger Woods and A. C. Green. I spent many a night listening to Laker radio broadcasts by Chick Hearn and I could picture the game as he described and never found myself wondering, “what the hell is going on?”. Sometimes on TV, I wished Chick would talk a little less, but he was always doing a simulcast, so you were listening to a radio broadcast with the television pictures in front of you.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I still hear his voice in my head, it's hard to believe he's actually not around anymore
Like it was just yesterday that I heard a lot of these clips, so indelible was his style and voice. Growing up with the Lakers in the 80s with so many great teams, and having Chick around to call the games, well I feel truly blessed.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Another great Chick + Magic clip
(though the sound is bad on this one, have to turn it all the way up) is this call of an unforgettably crazy buzzer beating shot from Magic.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
If you have been following Will Carroll or Craig Calcaterra, you will know there is a pending 50-game PED suspension coming down the pike sometime this week.
Calcaterra reports that the suspended player is an NL pitcher, and not a Met. Speculate away!
I haven’t decided if it is Padilla whether I will laugh or cry.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Padilla would make sense though, with his K rate skyrocketing since joining the Dodgers.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
The crying will be the realization that despite his many flaws, the pitching staff actually really needs Padilla.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
If it is Padilla, we get to use PEDilla over and over again :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't blame me
Blame Twitter…or a Yankee blogger for putting the thought in my head.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Does hair mousse qualify as a PED?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I would not like that, but Carpenter could make sense (thought it says “semi-big name player”).
If it’s a semi-big name, I don’t think it can be a Dodger pitcher.
"Semi-big name?"
Well, that rules out Saltalamacchia. Names don’t get bigger (or longer) than his.
(Also, he’s not in the NL, and he’s not a pitcher.)
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Jose Canseco.
Oh, wait — he pitched in the AL.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
My top 3
1. Vicente Padilla
2. Brad Penny
3. Livan Hernandez
The only reason I would care if it is Padilla is the bad press the Dodgers will get.
Maybe it's Kuo
and that is holding up his activation from the DL! :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I realize I killed this joke with my Jose Canseco comment, but...
You want a Cardinal?
How about “NL pitcher” Felipe Lopez?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
My very lazy guesses come from this source:
Fastball (mph): Starters
Ubaldo Jimenez 96.5
Justin Verlander 95.6
Brad Penny 94.2
Jorge de la Rosa 94.1
Josh Beckett 94.0
And since Verlander and Beckett are in the AL, it looks like its down to Ubaldo, Penny and de la rosa.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I seriously hope it's not Ubaldo.
What a black eye for the game if the guy who threw the first no-no in Rockies history gets banned for 50 games a few days later.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt it is. Unless he has always been juicing because its not like the MPH on his fastball is a new occurence. Along with Verlander he sat at the top of that list all last year.
Brad Penny on the other hand….
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I was speaking only in terms of the welfare of MLB in general. Now for what it would do to the Rockies… :)
Meh
MLB will be fine. It’s survived steroid scandals with HOF type players in McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Manny, Clemens, et al. It’s also survied Pete Rose and the Black Sox.
Ubaldo would barely even register as a black eye.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
The PED suspension will be Ronald Belisario. He missed appointments and delayed his visa to wait out his cycle, but it didn’t work. ;)
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
That would actually be the funniest damn thing ever. (also tragic and bad)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Horrible news
Rockies president Keli McGregor found dead in hotel room in Salt Lake City, per @denverpost: http://bit.ly/9tg6Io #mlb #rockies
The story said “natural causes,” but he’s a 48-year old former college football player, so who knows?
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL. From MCC
Eckstein’s homerun
It’s like if your girlfriend cheats on you, you expect it to be with the super-cool jock athlete guy (banger stud), not the short nerd who tucks in his shirt.
by calpolynate on Apr 19, 2010 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If so it was totally worth it for him
he’s carrying my TBLA pitching staff.
by meercatjohn on Apr 20, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed that
I find it sort of funny that it is you that is reaping the benefits of a Penny saved, er, drafted.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Bronson Arroyo maybe?
“I have a lot of guys in (the locker room) who think I’m out of (my) mind because I’m taking a lot of things not on the (MLB-approved) list.<I take 10 to 12 different things a day, and on the days I pitch, there’s four more things. There’s a caffeine drink I take from a company that (former teammate) Curt Schilling introduced me to in ‘05. I take some Korean ginseng and a few other proteins out there that are not certified. But I haven’t failed any tests, so I figured I’m good.”
Considering his having a “rink in a box” I would say he qualifies as a semi-big name.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
When I hear “semi-big” name pitcher, I think a level just below Johan Santana and Tim Lincecum. So guys like Dan Haren, Chris Carpenter, Derek Lowe, Brad Penny, Barry Zito, and Carlos Zambrano qualify a pitchers with some name recognition.
That’s what the media call them before the 2009 NLDS, didn’t they? :)
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweet
that disqualifies Vicente “NLCS pitcher” Padilla then :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
If you are talking talent then yes, but I don’t think their recognizability is on the level of Johan or Timmy.
Carpenter is absolutely a big name. Haren is likely one too.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Russ Ortiz a "semi-big" name?
Starter in the World Series (rather famously), former 20-game winner in Atlanta…. ;)
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess that depends on your definition of semi-big name in this context. I take to mean someone a bit lower on the national baseball scene than Johan and Timmy, who have a large contract and marketability respectively. Carp and Haren are certainly talented and among the best pitchers in the game but not as relevant nationally speaking.
How high have Carpenter, Haren and Wainwright finished in the Cy Young balloting?
I would think they are big names on a national level, especially to writers. Wasn’t it a writer who used the term “semi-big”?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess you could frame it that way and it that sense I would have to agree. I just don’t think Carp or Haren have the “WOW” factor which would make them semi-big name pitchers.
But that would be like having Ted Williams or Ty Cobb as the standard for making the HOF.
Carpenter has won a Cy Young, came close again last year. He is without question a “big name” pitcher.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
He is a big-name pitcher to us, followers of the sport, and writers, but the general public couldn’t pick Carpenter out of a lineup. Even though the writer is writing about baseball, these PED stories are often aimed at a larger audience to trumpet the corruption of the sport and the evils or steroid use to the masses.
The story broke by Criag Calcaterra on NBC’s Hardball Talk baseball blog. His audience is us.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, but nabbing Lincecum as a PED user as opposed to Carpenter grabs many more mainstream headlines, which is ultimately what the media is looking for.
I think you are arguing something that has nothing to do with the story. But it’s moot now anyway.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s be honest, the only NL pitcher that non-baseball folk know about is Lincecum. Since the guy with this PED suspension rumor follows baseball I’d say he doesn’t rank pitchers based on their exposure alone.
Possibly. I don’t think Carp or Haren are the ones anyway. For some reason Carlos Zambrano seems like a likely candidate.
I didn’t hear the Gatorade dispenser scream, " ’ROID RAGE!", but it could be true I suppose.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned’s hoping it’s somebody he got reamed for not signing.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Apr 20, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Randy Wolf??!?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Holy hell
that would be entertaining.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Ned would throw a big party and not invite any of us.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Apr 20, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
What about GRANICK???
Oh, you said NL pitcher. :)
by silverwidow on Apr 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Colletti must have known this for a while now. Probably why doesn’t want to pull the trigger on the Loney-Granick trade.
by Jesse S. on Apr 20, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK, I'm missing something.
Why is everybody calling him Granick? Let me in on the joke, please.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
A poster in here a couple months ago was asking why we don’t trade a bunch of scrubs and I think Loney for Zack “Granick”.
It’s been the biggest running joke in here since :)
He made this type of proposal repeatedly over a couple month time frame, and frequently closed with something like, “They might do it.”.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Reds lineup
per Jamie Ramsey of the Reds:
Stubbs CF
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Gomes LF
Hernandez C
Bailey P
The lineup posted in the Dodger clubhouse is never this “fancy”:
Usually there is just a simple page printed either from Word or notepad placed on a thumbtack at the end of the clubhouse (the official lineup card in the dugout is a different story of course)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Can’t say I’m happy to hear that anyone has been suspended because of PED use. As fans we know that it ultimately hurts the team, we’ve been there. I have some empathy for Reds fans right now.
I’d say that qualifies as a semi-big name.
Is it ironic that they traded Josh Hamilton, a guy with a known, previous drug (not PED) problem, to get him?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I see we both cut right to Hamilton. Nice.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that was anti-climatic
A dude on the DL anyway.
by Michael White on Apr 20, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Guaranteed to be a story now about how Manny Ramirez isn’t talking to the media, who will undoubtedly flock to him asking his opinion on Volquez, now the the Reds happen to be playing the Dodgers.
Bill Plaschke licks his chops, cracks his knuckles, and settles in to write the story
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Find
“Player Name”
Replace all with
“Edinson Volquez”
Find
“Team Name”{
Replace all with
“Cincinnati Reds”
Save
Submit
Stretch arms overhead and say to no one in particular, “all in a day’s work.”
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Actually
If he really wants to tackle the subject, this is a story about PEDs and what is going on in Latin American countries. If you look at the percent of suspensions (esp. minor leagues) given to players from those countries, you have to wonder why are the numbers so high.
So there is a story there and one Plaschke does pretty well, if he gets off his high horse.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would he get off his high horse
when he so likes the view? All the people are just dots! And Bill would not feel any pity if any of those dots stopped moving forever.
“If I offered you twenty thousand dollars for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare? Free of income tax, old man. Free of income tax – the only way you can save money nowadays.”
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Plaschke loves
The human interest side of sports, and he could play up how certain individuals are not looking out for these players. He’s done it before.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll admit that I've been a spotty reader of Plaschke ever since the Sasha Cohen debacle.
Has he really let a (semi-)big name, professional player off the hook for using PEDs because “certain individuals are not looking out for [this kind of] player?” I missed that and would be happy to stand corrected.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you that there is a story there. I’d even agree that Bill P. knows how to write a story like that, and it would play to some of his strengths. I’d like to see someone a bit more investigative track it down though.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Maury Allen of Biz of Baseball
Has been covering it for years.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
True ’nuf.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And you're green.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yours should be – I rec’d it, so there’s at least one. That was the inspired comment – the setup man in a high leverage situation. I just closed it out with a lead.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny’s last name ends with a z.
Edinson Volquez’s last name ends with a z.
Baseball fans ignore PEDs like they’re catching some z’s.
PEDz’s.
Juan Pierre has a ring in a box, and no z.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Apr 20, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Even with the TJ surgery and suspension, I’m still not ready to concede the Hamilton trade to the Rangers.
Were certain BBWAA members fooled in more than one way when they cast ROY votes for Volquez?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Heh. Several jokes about that on Twitter right now. Hilarious.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I now see one, Badler’s that you retweeted.
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn’t the Reds activate Volquez early to let him serve his suspension? Basically, if he wasn’t going to be able to pitch until late August then why not activate him in mid-June to let him serve the suspension. I imagine that it would be frowned upon, but it would save the Reds some lost Volquez time.
That will be interesting how that plays out.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Was Manny on the restricted list or is there a suspended list
I can’t recall how it worked out last year.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW
I figures it would be first revealed on twitter.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Per MLB, the suspension starts tomorrow. Convenient.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 12:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty toothless. How did the MLB lawyers miss that loophole when they did the drug policy negotiations?
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by David Young on Apr 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
On a different note and apparently without much provocation
Rick Neuheisal said on the Dan Patrick Show that he thinks Pete left USC because he was tired of trying to defend offenses that featured running quarterbacks.
I don’t think he was kidding.
I'll say this
In the games that they lost (going back to Texas), certainly mobile QBs have been problem.
Now I tend to think Pete left because the talent level in the Pac-10 was much closer, and the University was going to start to reign in some of the things that Pete liked (e.g., open practices). And most would admit that after the Leinart, Bush, Mike Williams type talent, the more recent 5 stars have not panned out as well (which is to be expected, that was a miraculous run).
So the question is, did Pete want to compete in a situation where they would be challenged and the path to the BCS was going to be more challenging.
We’ll never know.
Frankly, the more cop out answer to Patrick’s question would have been the investigation and outside stuff, Neuheisal chose a football answer, its his opinion.
by bhsportsguy on Apr 20, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
… Or maybe Pete got tired of winning at the college ranks until Oregon and Stanford exposed him and realized he’s getting up there in age and the Seattle job was a deal he couldn’t refuse..
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that this morning. There was a slight pause from Dan after clarifying that that is the answer Rick said. I mean, I don’t know if he was giving Pete a digg for not beating Vince Young back in ’05, but it was a lame “theory”
by Julio Nievas on Apr 20, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers lineup
Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Ramirez LF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
DeWitt 2B
Martin C
Billingsley P
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 12:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Pet peeve
People reporting Edinson Volquez’s lost salary incorrectly. Some have reported his lost salary as ~$137,000 (50/162nds of his $445,000) salary. However, MLB salaries are prorated over the 183-day season. And when a player is suspended, he loses pay for the number of days equal to the number of games he was suspended (so off days don’t count as non-paid days) per the Joint Drug Agreement (PDF, pg 20).
Volquez will lose $445,000 / 183 × 50 = $121,584.70 during his suspension. If you hear anything different, don’t believe it.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I believe you, but I have a question.
Salary is determined by the days in the season. The suspension is for 50 games.
I haven’t gone ahead and counted, but let’s say there are 10 off days interspersed among the 50 games. This would then be a suspension for “60 days.”
The policy, then, seems to be that Volquez is suspended and not paid for the 50 game days of his suspension, but IS paid for the 10 (in my example) off days during the same period.
Do I have it right? And if so, why is that the policy?
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You have it right. The punitive part of the suspension is to simply not pay him for just the X number of games for which he is ineligible, nothing more, nothing less.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
For instance, Manny missed a total of 57 days last season, but was unpaid for just the 50 games he missed.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 20, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose that makes sense in a way
I’m a salaried employee. Occasionally I, er, suspend myself — I go on vacation. Sometimes this vacation is unpaid leave. However, I don’t get penalized for any holidays that fall over these period — I still get paid for those.
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by Humma Kavula on Apr 20, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Game Preview is up (finally)
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/4/20/1433052/mighty-dodger-offense-rolls-into
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