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Manny Ramirez Placed on DL; Xavier Paul Called Up

The Dodgers have lost their last five road series, dating back to last season.  During that span, they are 4-11 on the road (plus 1-3 away from Dodger Stadium in the playoffs).  The last road series they won was in Washington DC, where the club begins a three-game series tonight.

The team will be without Manny Ramirez, who was placed on the disabled list with a right calf injury, per Dylan Hernandez of the LA TimesXavier Paul -- wearing number 30 -- was recalled from Triple A Albuqerque to take his spot on the roster.  Paul was tearing up the Pacific Coast League, hitting .361/.409/.574 with 18 runs scored in 15 games.  Manny, whose first game missed during his 50-game suspension last season was also against the Nationals, was off to a hot start, hitting .415/.500/.659 with 12 RBI in 13 games.

Since they are a sporting bunch, the Nationals have countered the Manny injury by having Ryan Zimmerman sit out his second straight game with a right hamstring injury.

Sure, the pitching and defense has been awful in the first 15 games, but I found this note interesting:  in the first 15 games of 2009, Dodger starting pitchers threw a grand total of 83 1/3 innings, just one more than this year's starting group.  So it's not necessarily that the starters need to pitch longer -- even though they probably should -- but rather they just need to pitch better.

Getting his chance to pitch better tonight is Charlie Haeger, coming off his three-inning start Saturday against the GiantsLuis Atilano, a supplemental first round draft pick of the Braves in 2003, will be making his major league debut for the Nationals.

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Nats Lineup

Morgan CF
Kennedy 2B
Guzman SS
Dunn 1B
Willingham LF
Rodriguez C
Harris 3B
Maxwell RF
Atilano P

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Royals dumping Juan Cruz

Raise your hand if you’d take him over Ramon or Monk.

I would.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Once upon a time I would

but it does raise a red flag that a team with pitching as bad as KC would let him go.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he wasn't pitching bad

13 baserunners in 5+ innings is eye-opening, but only 2 runs scored and 7 strikeouts.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ERA is 3.38 compared to an x-FIP of 3.94; both of which are fine and don’t indicate that he was getting absurdly lucky…

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do I smell designated catcher - Per Jon at DT

Furcal 6
Anderson 7
Ethier 9
Kemp 8
Loney 3
Belliard 5
DeWitt 4
Ellis 2
Haeger 1

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s not a horrible idea. Martin needs regular rest anyway, so keeping a consistent catcher to build a rapport with Haeger seems like a smart move.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

House money starts a day earlier

With day games scheduled for Saturday and Sunday, you should have expected some moving around with the lineup.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but Haeger is no starter

Having Haeger, then a second rate catcher around to catch him is a lose-lose scenario. Ellis didn’t show up in Spring and he’s just there to fill in for Ausmus.

But, the real question is starting pitching. Bills has already lost his confidence and Haeger just isn’t a starter. That leaves the Dodgers with a 22 year old phenom-in-the-lurches and two 35+ year olds trying to stay off the DL.

I’m going to hold my breath until the trading deadline and hope the bats and Brox stay hot. Otherwise, this is going to be a long spring.

by Mookie1 on Apr 23, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Mookie, Padilla is 32.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The short bus is waiting outside for you

Ellis didn’t show up in spring?

He played the whole camp when Martin was down, and led the team in walks.

Vicente Padilla is 32, as you have been told numerous times.

If you want to join desecrator, et al, keep it up.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rather than make the same comment over and over again, you should allocate that time to actually make sure your facts are correct before posting…once.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only people we agree with

get to make the same point over and over. Otherwise it just gets irritating. No soup for you

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that true?

I’ve been posting over and over that I’m bearish for 2011 and 12 and I don’t think anyone agrees with me, but you look the other way on my comments.

Why? Is it because I’m funny? You think I’m a clown? I’m here to amuse you?

Yes? OK, good.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you

Im worried about the future of the team with McCourt as the owner

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 23, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The key difference

you respond to those that take on the discourse with you.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because you don’t give stupid reasons for why you think that. If you were to tell me they will suck in 2011 and 2012 because Kemp is really not that good of a player and he will end up a 4th outfielder, then you will DEFINITELY get flamed. But I think we all realize you aren’t stupid.

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and rec’d for a Goodfellas reference.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I look the other way

because it is obvious you were brain damaged when the Spawn took the good parts.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you to some degree. In any case, I find it thought provoking. I’ve been pondering for the last few days whether or not it would be a good idea to “trade high” on Broxton and Ethier after this year and reload. I’ve been thinking about what sort of haul LAD could get for them.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Jansen is ready

I’d certainly sell high on Broxton, but unlike when Gagne was at his peak teams seem much smarter about what they would give up for a high end closer. Unless your Ned looking for a left handed setup man.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you get the right deal offered to you, in the right situation

you’d better take it, even if it is selling high on Ethier.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would not sell high on Andre

I think he’s got four years of uber production coming up. I don’t feel the same about Broxton.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We only know, what we know, but if you won’t be able to afford Ethier in free agency (or if have to decide between extending Kemp or keeping Ethier) then how does that change your analysis?

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully by then

the financial mess will be somewhat cleared up. If not we may not be able to afford anyone.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I fear

Not a fire sale, as you indicate, but death by a thousand cuts; just as Wolf and Hudson were replaced by Padilla and DeWitt, next year may see Ramirez and Kuroda replaced by cheaper players who aren’t awful but also don’t provide a high percentage of Ramirez’s/Kuroda’s production. And the Dodgers get a few fewer wins………..

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

but then I think Padilla will be as good Wolf and DeWitt/Belliard as good as Hudson. But I do understand what you mean.

In the beginning I wasn’t so concerned the divorce would effect the team but when you hear this is going to be one of most expensive divorces ever, Frank has to find the money somewhere to pay his attorny’s.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paul McCartney would like to talk to you about expensive divorces ;)

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least he had enough saved up such that he had a leg to stand on after his divorce.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unlike his ex, BAM!

Though technically she did have one leg to stand on.

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're welcome

That was set up on a tee for you :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured it had to be, because it was just sitting there all nice and shiny waiting to be said :)

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't mean the final settlement

but the actual cost, from what I’ve been reading this is a dozy.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Public perception shouldn’t figure into it. If you agree with Humma and you are bearish for 2011 and 12, turning one of the better players in Ethier into multiple prospects who would be cost controlled though the rebound (after 2012) you do it.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about owner perception?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure I understand what you mean?

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if you, the GM, want to pull the trigger on an Ethier deal on July 29th that you think will help the ballclub, and you think, "McCourt will say, ‘I took enough crap for trading Lo Duca – no fucking way’ ", does that change your analysis?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point. It’s one of those things, you have to have enough confidence in what you are doing is the right thing. McCourt should have the capital within LA to pull a move like that off (what with fielding a team that went to the NLCS 2 years in a row and all ) but thanks to his divorce and his questionable finance situation, he certainly doesn’t.

I mean, it’s his team. He needs to have the balls to make the right decision. Who still dislikes McCourt because of Lo Duca? Things like that are forgotten….if it’s the right move.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

They blamed all that on Depo

not Frank. Depo took the full brunt and after LaDuca turned up as a fraud, did any of those who trashed Depo stand up and say they were wrong. Maybe, I stopped reading them so I don’t know if they did or not.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plaschke did in his backhanded, grudging way.

by JonWeisman on Apr 23, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

McCourt won’t go into any sort of obvious rebuilding mode until he gets a fat TV deal signed. Until then, he’s got to do everything he can to keep things going.

On that theory, the most likely moves this year are the same as last year: our better prospects, in exchange for mid-level MLB pitchers who come with prepaid salary.

by MartinGreen on Apr 23, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

the only reason i would sell high on Ethier

is if i cant afford to pay him, which i hope isnt the case. I feel bearish for the future based on the current ownership, not with the core we have now

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

It would point to the idea that Dodger management recognizes where the team is on the success cycle.

Let’s say I’m right and the Dodgers are in for a couple of down years. I’ll define that: two years in which the team is right around 81 wins and not a playoff contender.

How you break that cycle is key. Many teams get stuck in a feedback loop of being 84-87 win teams. It’s possible that’s the Dodgers’ future. Or maybe they can make themselves worse in the short run and better in the long run.

By trading high on guys like Ethier and Broxton, you make the short-term pain worse — maybe the team struggles to 81 wins in 2011 and 12. But what you get in return are players that are more likely than draft picks to make the majors, and when 2013 rolls around, the new core is there to go for a championship.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know you are wrong

this team even with the McCourt handicap is not headed in a down cycle. We will address that this winter but I don’t see how this could happen with this core unless Frank has a fire sale which is a whole different matter.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly possible I'm wrong.

Wouldn’t be the first time. Or the second. Or the twenty billionth.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I’ve been thinking is what kind of team is this when it comes to young-ish free agents to be. Will this be a team (in a few years) that will let the players go to FA and collect the draft picks, or will it be a team that trades them a year before they reach free agency? I would think the former, but the want to save money might make Ned forced to trade the high salary player on the way to free agency for prospects. That might not be a bad thing, though.

I don’t know if I could stomach the thought of the Dodgers giving up some time next year and trading 2 big fan favorites like Ethier and Broxton. The haul would be pretty epic, though.

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The trick, like we were saying earlier, is figuring out which players you let walk and which you keep.

Do you want to pay Ethier more than $10 million a year for his age 31, 32, and 33 seasons? Have we seen his peak as a mid-to-high-800 OPS guy, and if so, is that worth the money? Is Broxton worth similar cash?

If the answers are no, and you want to trade them, the haul would have to be epic. They are worth two first-round picks and two supplemental round picks if you let them walk. Whatever they garner has to be more of a sure thing.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless Ethier suddenly gets unhealthy, I don't like dumping him any time soon

as for J Brox – unless your name’s Mariano Rivera or Trevor Hoffman closer longevity is incredibly bad.

On top of that, wouldn’t it make more sense to have just three of your best relievers and have them come in as early as the 7th!? I mean the Dodgers may very well have lost the series to the Giants had B Wilson come in to face Manny and not some Dodger fan.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 23, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, everywhere you posted this comment, I showed you the list of FA pitchers-to-be (this year and next), which looks like, as Humma put it, “slim pickens” for the trading deadline.

Either further the discussion, or cease. Continually blathering the same point over and over again without responding to those that engage you civilly doesn’t fly here.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't actually think the pickings

were slim based on your list. The bar is not that high(:

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looper is still out there right now, isn’t he?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you guys think about Cain?

He’s got an option for next year. You like him in Dodger Blue? Would you shell out the big-cash deal he’s probably looking for?

It would be fun to annoy the Giants fans by getting him.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cain already got a big extension from the Giants.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The lists posted were from Cot’s – I don’t know how up-to-date they are.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cain's big extension

was a three-year deal that he signed in March, covering the ‘10, ’11, and ’12 seasons, with no option, according to Cot’s. 3 years, $27.25 million.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cot's stays on top of the team pages

E.g., Russ Ortiz was off the Dodger page moments after he elected free agency, but Free Agent pages sometimes tend to lag, Matt Cain being a case in point.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

More seriously

Once you rule out the pitchers on teams likely to still be contenders at the deadline, and the pitchers would have club-friendly options, what’s left? Aaron Harang? If the Cubs continue to bomb out, Ted Lilly?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

They might do it.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zach Duke?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buy Brandon Webb low

and then cross your fingers like crazy

by K3vo on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least Xavier Paul was hitting

As Phil has pointed out, the other “prospects” in AAA were being outdone by the AAAA guys.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I ran out of time

for my leaderboard post or I’d gotten to Paul. Even with that high OPS of .983 he wasn’t in the top 15. Course that list is loaded with AAAA players like Lindsey and Redman and Gibbons. Interesting that Paul is only a year older then Smoak and Wallace, he just seems older because he’s been in AAA forever now.

What Lindsey is doing is just ridiculous, almost or even higher then the level Jake Fox was doing. It is worth his own post if he keeps it up for one more week.
http://firstinning.com/stats/?type=batting&min=45&lg=PCL&season=2010&t=bas&desc=avg

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

AAA is not a place

That teams send their serious prospects. That said, he will probably be there at some point, if not this year, next.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on the stockpile

of OF prospects they will have to use AAA in the very near term. I don’t quite agree with your comment. Players who played in AAA on the Dodgers who they considered prospects: Loney, DeWitt, Abreu, LaRoche, Paul, Kemp, Andre, Billingsley, Elbert, McDonald. I agree sometimes the good ones jump but that is usually when things are dire. Then if they don’t stick they usually are put back into AAA not AA.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

How could he just miss?

I’ll tell you why because he was a 25th round draft pick. Lambo hits a ton singles and makes a hot list, Sands hits doubles and home runs in the toughest pitching league in the minors and is a just miss. Sure he’s 22 but come on, that is ridiculous. This is the MidWest league, a league that has brought some of the best prospects around to their knees. /rant

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sands is putting up impressive numbers

but hes 22 in low A. . . I wouldnt mind seeing him skip A+, and head straight to AA to close the season

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 23, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein

Has both Lambo and Sands in his players of note section. Goldstein did tweet last night that Sands needs to be moved up.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zimmerman

is not expected to play tomorrow either, according to Jim Riggleman

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm of mixed feelings

I really wanted to watch him play. Did anyone read the link I posted in the review? I thought it was an interesting but biased look at who the best 3rd baseman based on value was in baseball.
http://www.federalbaseball.com/2010/4/22/1433732/a-sabermetrical-approach-to-the#storyjump

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read it

and I was just about to post that I thought it was really great.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be the Juan Pierre currently hitting .217 / .277 / .217 / .494

I can live with a Xavier Reed platoon for fifteen days.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, he “came through” for one month then was back to his crappy self in June.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He came through, until that Colorado series was over at the end of May. Then, he was Juan Pierre again.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

From that point until Manny's return: .252 / .305 / .290 / .595

(May 28 – July 1) That’s even crappier than normal Juan Pierre standards.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just realized

This means no Manny for TBLA night #1

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I suppose you’ll just have to root for the other two all-star outfielders at that game.

by K3vo on Apr 23, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You really think Garrett Jones will make it? ;)

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

by K3vo on Apr 23, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It also means

I’m going to kick your butt in the Manny games played bet. Wait until we trade him into the DH league:)

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bummer about Manny, but cool about XPaul

I bet he fills in well when needed. Yeah as David said above, Xavier + Reed can be a fine platoon til Manny gets back. It’s not like the other two guys in the OF are a drag on the offense ;-)

Anyone know anything more about this Atilano dude? Hope we see Good Haeger tonight, not slacky Haeger.

Gotta scramble to finish work so I can watch some of the draft and then a bit of the Dodgers game.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I will not reply

until you read the Preview and comments below in which this fellow was addressed in bloody detail.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not literally, though. That would be wrong :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad, I was about to borrow some of my girlfriend's Kotex pads

Oh no he din’t!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about that, was reading and replying on my phone

I’ll try to be better about that next time. Thanks.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez Underdog, if you would just read the preview

and not ask about opposing players, cause I know I’d never do that :D

by Ivdown on Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are your thoughts on Tebow?

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll get back to you after I'm done reading the bloody post below this one

;-P

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

My first thought. . . . LOL

but Tebow is a gamer, he will do whatever he has to in order to be competitive. My guess is he sticks somewhere. It may not be QB, but he will land somewhere. I don’t even like the media factory.

by K3vo on Apr 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's happy the almighty will be pulling for the Broncos

Though I thought that was a given with the Raiders in the same division.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Based on all the players

who salute the big guy I thought he was pulling for everyone.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was not against them picking him per se

but didnt like losing some picks to move up to get him in the 1st. Now from what I’ve heard he was def not going to be available in the 2nd round, sounded like Buffalo was even eying him right after that pick. But as for Tebow himself I had mixed feelings but don’t doubt his ability to work hard and to improve what needs to be improved to be successful.

I also felt better about him after watching this clip on ESPN’s Sport Science. He’s apparently improved his release time greatly but of course the question is can he repeat those new mechanics in actual game action. But they have the luxury of time with him.

Still I would rather them have used that pick (or picks) or defense or OL. But maybe they’ll still get a couple good players there today.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand he’s going to start for you guys next year. It would be crazy if he had more rushing TDs than passing. To me, he’s a more powerful version of Vick.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me, he’s a stronger Eric Crouch. Meaning he should be a tight end.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if anything's set in stone about his timeline

I do know this is likely Orton’s final year with Denver. I don’t know what Brady Quinn thinks of this pick, though. ;-) as far as 2011.

And I think he’ll fare better than Crouch, based on his smarts and other abilities, and also just based on pure gut feeling. But we’ll see. I hope that’s not his future. (They could use another TE though, lol.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering Crouch never even tried, I’d say that’s a good bet to take. Crouch just up and quit.

Too bad; like Tebow, Crouch was one heck of an athlete. He turned the corner as fast as anybody.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m relatively surprised Jacksonville passed on him. Not from the fact that it would be insane to take him tenth, but he sure would fill their stadium.

by K3vo on Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

10th would've been insane but on the other hand they reached with their actual 10 pick

Also: First game of next season, Denver at Jax. Very doubtful Tebow sees much action mind you.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is the info you were looking for

Sorry I was a dick about it.

Game One -Luis Atilano -The one time 2003 number one pick of the Braves finally makes his major league debut. Luckily for him he gets to go against the best offense in baseball. Atilano replaced Jason Marquis who went on the DL. Too bad, I love facing Marquis. Atilano was not considered by BaseballHQ to be on the teams top 15 prospects. This was the rotowire scouting report:


    Atilano didn’t show much at Double-A to warrant his spot on the 40-man roster, but a couple of superficially good starts at Triple-A to end the year may have provided some hope that he’ll be able to contribute down the road. The Nationals have had some success in recent seasons with pitchers who rely on defense, but as the organizational depth improves the opportunities for future Craig Stammens (whom Atilano seems to be) should shrink, if not disappear entirely.

More on Atilano from Baseball HQ:

Who is Luis Atilano?
    Taking Marquis’ place on the roster is Luis Atilano (RHP, WAS), a 24-year-old righty who is going to make his major league debut against the Dodgers Friday. Atilano has spent seven years in the minors, though he was a former 1st-rounder of the Braves in 2003. Last year in 125 IP between AA and AAA, Atilano had a Dom of only 4.7 but a low 2.0 Ctl to give him a decent Cmd of 2.4. So far this year in AAA, over 11 IP he has an improved Dom of 7.4 and an even better Ctl of 1.6. The improved strikeout rate is encouraging, but it is a tiny sample size and very out of place with his history where his dominance is usually in the 4s. The low dominance could prove an issue in the big leagues, but if he can keep his control in such excellent territory, he might have a chance.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No worries, thanks. I did read that. What surprised me is learning he was a

1st round draft pick! Had no idea. He must have some talent and maybe he’s finally coming around. But hopefully not tonight.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Apr 23, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowden made the trade for him

was just tweeting about him starting tonight. Wants to look good.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

He is just stoked about all the bonus money he stole from the kid.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the first time since August 2, 2005

The Dodgers enter a series with the Nationals with the Nationals having a better record. Until today, that was the only time in the Nationals’ short history that had happened.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Remember when

our bullpen was lights out? I miss those days. I know they may return, but I grew accustomed to it.

by robotmadeofnails on Apr 23, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember when

our farm system was the envy of the league?

our starters would consistently go 6?

Manny was healthy?

Our GM didn’t always trade away our talent? ( oh wait, Fred Claire’s about as good as Ned…)

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 23, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starters going 6

1st 15 games 2009: 7 starts of six or more innings, 83 1/3 innings total
1st 15 games 2010: 6 starts of six or more innings, 82 1/3 innings total

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAH!

oh man. I’m approaching Mookiedom with that . . .

It just seems like there isn’t much light at the end of the tunnel like there was last year. I’m going to take my own advice now; IT’S APRIL.

by Seanny Rotten on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the starters have pitched much worse over their innings (compared to last year)…but you are right (and nowhere near Mookiedom) that it is still April.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I just thought that was a quirky stat

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

So my brother and his kids (lives near Baltimore) and my uncle and his wife (just moved to DC area) and their son (lives in VA) and daughter (out visiting) are all going to the game tonight. My brother was hoping to see Kershaw, but oh well.

He should be sending some pictures; I hope they come out OK from his phone.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions  

They picked the right game to go to, considering that the other 2 are supposedly in jeaopardy because of the rain.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Dylan Hernandez:

The idea to DL Manny was Manny’s, according to Torre.

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Just to be clear

What’s annoying is not Manny, or that I think he’s being lazy; what’s annoying is that the CW gets reinforced, whether or not there’s truth to the CW.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Apr 23, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

CW? Chris Withrow? :)

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ain't that the truth

Those beeps you are hearing are from the short bus, backing up while leaving, deciding it didn’t need to pick you up :)

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll

never play another significant inning for the Dodgers. BT

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problem. Frankly, I’m getting a bit concerned with the severity here.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

things like this could linger all year for an old outfielder who should be a DH.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

No argument from me.

by JonWeisman on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

… to what BH wrote.

by JonWeisman on Apr 23, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cruz was flat out released

I’m assuming he’s free to sign with anyone now.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

A guy who couldn't

couldn’t get motivated playing for such a crappy team even though he was being paid millions to do so? A latin who had trouble adjusting to KC and the plethora of barbecue but not one single good Mexican place in the whole town?

I don’t know, what I do know is that when he was with the Diamondbacks the dude could throw some heat from the tiny little body.

by meercatjohn on Apr 23, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t just about everyone think that signing Juan Cruz as a Type-A FA was a questionable move, especially for a team like the Royals? Of course, for KC, it cost them a #2, not a #1, but still.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Price was picked 3rd in the 2nd Round by Tampa Bay

For the first time in a long time a USC player will get drafted after a UCLA player. Now I expect a whole bunch of USC players to get drafted before the next UCLA player.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Good for Brian. Hes a really good guy and deserves whatever good comes his way.

by UCLADodger32 on Apr 23, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I met him in his freshman year

And he was as soft-spoken a guy you can meet. He’ll be a very solid pro.

by bhsportsguy on Apr 23, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Browns are up. Here’s their shot at Clausen.

by silverwidow on Apr 23, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Derek Anderson > Clausen.

Derek Anderson is full on man crush territory for me.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

talk about selling high

Browns shoulda done so right after that pro-bowl year

by SeanMillerSavior on Apr 23, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He isnt a good football player. He screwed himself by not leaving after last year.

by UCLADodger32 on Apr 23, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not his fault Braylon Edwards got a case of the dropsies.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s considering going back to Oaks Christian for another chance at glory.

by Michael White on Apr 23, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s really too bad that he and Mark Vlasic weren’t contemporaries. What fun we would have.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quite a pickle to be in

by Eric Stephen on Apr 23, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m trying not to be sour about it.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Apr 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

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