Charlie Haeger: Rotation Savior?
The ripple effect of Vicente Padilla's injury has the potential to throw the Dodger pitching rotation into disarray. That is, unless Charlie Haeger and his magic knuckleball have anything to say about it.
Unless they plan to start in-house candidates Carlos Monasterios or Ramon Ortiz, the Dodgers need to promote a minor league pitcher to fill in for Padilla. It appears that pitcher will be John Ely, who was scratched from his start today for Triple A Albuquerque. Padilla's spot in the rotation was scheduled to be Tuesday, but Haeger is pitching in the second game tomorrow on three days rest.
That move allows the Dodgers to postpone calling up someone from the minor leagues until Wednesday, which means Jon Link gets to stay for at least the two games tomorrow. This also means the Dodgers head into tomorrow's doubleheader with a well-rested, eight-man bullpen; only Ramon Troncoso will have pitched more than once in four days.
Haeger was willing to pitch both games tomorrow, per Ken Gurnick of MLB.com, and given Haeger's willingness to pitch whenever, wherever, it's hard to tell whether or not he was joking. However, given the upcoming schedule (hat tip to BHSportsGuy), Haeger might have to shoulder a little more of the burden anyway:
| Date | Opp | Starter |
| Tue | @NYM x2 | Kuroda, Haeger |
| Wed | @NYM | Ely |
| Thu | Pit | Kershaw |
| Fri | Pit | Billingsley |
| Sat | Pit | Haeger (3 days) |
| Sun | Pit | Kuroda |
| May 3 | off | |
| May 4 | Mil | Kershaw |
| May 5 | Mil | Billingsley |
| May 6 | Mil | Haeger |
| May 7 | Col | Kuroda |
| May 8 | Col | Ely / Padilla |
Pushing the fill-in start to Wednesday means Padilla's spot in the rotation can be skipped on next Monday's off day, meaning potentially only one start needed from Ely, or whomever will be pitching Wednesday in New York. This is assuming Padilla is healthy enough to pitch on May 8, the first day he is eligible to be activated from the disabled list. But reading the quotes from Padilla, it doesn't sound like he'll be ready to pitch anytime soon. From Tony Jackson of ESPN LA:
"In the past, I have had something similar, but I was able to throw with it in the past,'' Padilla said, with Kenji Nimura translating. "In spring training, I had the same thing, but I was able to throw through the pain. This time, I can't even throw, so it's a little bit more serious. I don't know if it's in the tendon or the muscle, so I don't know what to expect.''
No matter when Padilla comes back, the Dodgers still have a hole in their rotation this Saturday. I don't know if they would call up another minor leaguer to pitch Saturday, especially when those on the 40-man roster -- Scott Elbert or James McDonald -- haven't pitched well in Triple A. They would already have to make one corresponding roster move to make room on the 40-man for Wednesday's starter, whether it is Ely, Josh Towers, or Gurnick favorite Jesus Castillo (in Double A). They do have the option of moving one or both of Brad Ausmus and Cory Wade to the 60-day disabled list, so the room is there if they need it.
However, having the indefatigable Haeger pitch on Saturday, again on three days rest, would help stabilize the rotation without the need of an extra roster move. Plus, it would add to the allure and wonder of the knuckleball. Sure, it's not quite Wilbur Wood starting both games of a doubleheader, but these days hardly anybody starts on three days rest, especially not twice in a row. In fact, the only Dodger in the last 21 years to pitch two consecutive starts on three or fewer days rest was fellow knuckleballer Tom Candiotti, who last turned the trick in July 1993:
| Date | Opp | Rest | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K |
| 7/8/93 | Mets | 3 | 6 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 5 |
| 7/11/93 | Mets | 2 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
That's right, Tom Candiotti pitched two games in the same (five-game) series against the Mets. Starting tomorrow, also in New York against the Mets, Charlie Haeger can keep alive the legend of the knuckleball.
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Josh Beckett still sucks
And I was right about Ichiro – Infield hit
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Beckett throws
a lot of fastballs right down the middle with little movement. Not the greatest combination to work with there.
Red Sox (on a Beckett start)
give up 10 runs so far and still have a comfortable lead. Toronto pitching is awful tonight.
This is only interesting
if he actually pitches well tomorrow and Saturday, saving the rotation while sucking means nothing.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Agreed…but it will be fascinating either way.
Haeger’s week will either be Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, or Kathleen Turner in Marley & Me
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The former had me in serious lust at the time. Man.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 27, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Marlins put the hurt on the wonder boy Latos and the Padres
Josh Johnson shakes hand with his catcher.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
When a game is going like that
I always picture the bullpen phone ringing and all of the guys left doing a simutaneous head shaking.
I wonder if Padilla's
injury is really season threatening? I mean the guy got fuckin shot and made it back on time, now he can’t throw because of the pain. This seems like bad news.
yeah
does it seem weird to you that he makes the point to say that this has happened before, but was able to get through it. I know the MRI will be the tell all, but it makes me wonder. He doesn’t seem like the guy that doesn’t pitch because he “felt something”. He seems like the guy that just throws anyway. I hope it isn’t serious. We need that no undershirt wearing mad man. BTW, how do you play baseball w/o an undershirt. No way I could. :)
Only the greats, like Greg Maddux, know.
I even wear an undershirt to the gym!
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Greg Maddux
great call. I wear an undershirt in the freakin shower. I hate the feeling of no undershirt. Maybe I should change my id to Undershirts…..
keithc: nevernude?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Apr 26, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If Ely performed well, can he stays in the rotation? (Only if Padilla will be out longer than 15 dats)
Amanda Righetti <3
I doubt it
If Padilla isn’t ready to comeback on May 8, Weaver likely will be on May 7, so I would say Ely’s maximum is 2 starts before getting optioned.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Padilla
already got the first shot.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Apr 27, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Carlos Silva pitched well again
I don’t like this bizarro world where Beckett sucks and Silva doesn’t.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
now 11 - 9 in Toronto in the 6th
crazy ass game
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
13-10 in the 7th
guys in the bullpen are wearing fake mustches now to avoid having to pitch. :)
by keithc13 on Apr 26, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
WTF is that about
I know the guy sucks, but that is one expensive set up guy. How long before he gets back in the rotation? Can they really keep him in the pen and justify that to the owner?
Jeff Willingham
was 7-12 against him, now just singled.
In the game a Nat hat blew onto the field. The umpire thought it was from the stands so he tossed it back into the stands. The players then had to exchange some baseball to get his hat back. Goofy stuff.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hi, my name is Carlos Zambrano
I make Umpteen million dollars per year to throw about 45 pitches per week. It was a pleasure meeting you. Hope you get to see me pitch today. :)
That would be awesome
but I don’t think that will be the case.
FWIW, ABQ has him scheduled to start Thursday.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe ABQ can have McDonald in the pen for tomorrow (they have a doubleheader with Omaha), let him throw a couple innings to make sure his fingernail is fine, then he can come up to start Saturday (with Ely optioned). Then, when Weaver comes back, stick Weaver back into his swing man role and kick Ortiz the Elder to the curb.
That may be wishful thinking though :)
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If all goes well with LA's bullpen issues, our rotation stays healthy beyond this Padilla thing,
and JMac continues to start the entire season in ALB. How much do the Dodgers need him to make an impact in ST next year and become part of the rotation? I feel it’s vital for his long term viability as a pitcher. I’m not sure they are too keen on him being a relief pitcher. He can be a relief pitcher, and a damn fine one, but would they consider trading him if he can’t make it as a starter?
Padilla
from Dylan Hernandez:
Padilla diagnosed with irritated radial nerve in his forearm.
Back in 2008, Kyle Boddy of Drive Line Mechanics had a very thorough breakdown of Matt Garza, including an explanation of radial nerve irritation:
Matt Garza landed on the 15-day disabled list in early April due to “radial nerve irritation.” As Chris Neault from Disabled List Informer said:
The radial nerve supplies sensory and motor information to the back of the hand, forearm, and triceps. Most commonly, the radial nerve becomes irritated as it passes through the forearm or lateral elbow, most notably in the area of the supinator muscle. This muscle turns the palm upwards, such as when a power curve is thrown. The nerve may also get irritated as it passes by the bony structures on the outside of the elbow.
There are two bones in your forearm: The Ulna and the Radius. When pitchers experience “hyperextension” of the elbow joint, or release pitches with a supinated grip, they slam the ulnar olecranon processes into their humeral olecranon fossa (soft tissue), causing inflammation of the hyaline cartilage. In turn, this causes the ulna bone to irreversibly lengthen, which results in loss of flexion about the elbow.
Sound like a lot to digest? It is! But, here’s a fun tip – if you know any competitive pitchers, preferably one who threw 120+ innings in a year and had a supinated breaking ball, ask him to touch the palm of his throwing arm to the throwing arm shoulder. Many people will be unable to do this – try it yourself. If you aren’t a pitcher (or haven’t had a freak accident causing loss of flexion about the elbow), you should have no problem laying your hand (or at least your fingertips) on your shoulder.
You’ve probably heard of Ulnar Collateral Ligament replacement surgery, better known as Tommy John surgery. However, you’ve probably never heard of radial nerve irritation. It is far less common than ulnar nerve irritation, but it does happen to baseball pitchers, and it is often misdiagnosed. As Chris Neault said above, the radial nerve is often irritated as it passes through the forearm or the lateral elbow in the area of the supinator muscle. The supinator muscle does exactly what it sounds like – it turns the palm upwards (or thumbs up).
Matt Garza spent 16 days on the disabled list in 2008 with the same injury.
by Eric Stephen on Apr 26, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he pitched well
in the four starts after the DL stint. That is refreshing. Hopefully we get the same thing in Padilla’s case.
Of all teams to hand Halladay his first loss
The Giants take an early 2-0 lead. (emphasis on early).
Well, it's official. DBacks win
Dodgers are in sole possession of 5th place. :(
Atleast for one day.
No! No! It's all over! The world is ending! Abort! Abort!
Wait, where’s my gin? Oh, right here.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, much better.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Apr 26, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You've got two more years until the end of the world.
He’s gonna need a lotta gin.
That's
what Costco is for.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Apr 26, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions

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