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Kuroda, Dodgers Seek to Finish Off D-Backs

By winning the first two games against the Diamondbacks, the Dodgers have finally won a road series, after losing seven straight series away from home dating back to last season.  They have their first opportunity for a sweep this season, heading into the finale in Arizona. With a win tonight, the Dodgers can reach .500 for the first time in three weeks.

In each of the first two games of the series, the Dodgers scored four runs and led through seven innings, only to expand their lead with 12 of their 20 runs in the series over the final two innings against a beleaguered Arizona bullpen.  The Diamondbacks have allowed 32 runs in the ninth inning this season, nine more than any other team in baseball.  In fact, the only two innings in which Arizona's team ERA is under five are the second inning (4.76) and sixth inning (3.71).

Kuroda Returns

When Jimmy Rollins lined a double to the gap in right center field in Philadelphia, or when the Dodgers' season ended one game later, Dodger spirits were very low.  But nothing compared to the pit-of-your-stomach emptiness felt when, on August 15 in Arizona, Hiroki Kuroda took a Rusty Ryal line drive off his head.  Without question, it was the lowest moment of the year for the Dodgers.  Jim Peltz of the LA Times gives us some insight into the mindset of Kuroda, who makes his return to Phoenix tonight:

"If something happens on the field, it happens," he said. "I'm just going to keep going forward."

Kuroda, 35, said he "intentionally" watched video replays of the accident several times because "I just wanted to see how I was hit."

"I don't really have any fear about watching the video because when you're on the mound, you're a different person," he said. "I could be really objective about watching the video."

Kuroda has been the club's best pitcher this season, with a 2.70 ERA, 3.56 FIP, and 3.81 x-FIP, and leads the club in innings pitched despite having one fewer start than Clayton Kershaw or Chad Billingsley.  However, Kuroda now has the added "burden" of following flavor-of-the-month John Ely in the rotation.  Kuroda throughout his career has been frugal with the free passes, but Ely has taken it to the extreme with no walks and 13 strikeouts in his last two starts.  Kuroda is coming off a start in which he set a career high in walks with five, although two were intentional.

Offensively Minded

Rafael Furcal had a walk in three plate appearances today in his final rehabilitation game with Inland Empire, and is expected to be back Friday, putting the Dodger lineup back at full strength.  All eight members of the regular lineup are league average hitters or better:

Pos Player OPS+ wRC+
C Martin 102 107
1B Loney 125 129
2B DeWitt   100 107
3B Blake 117 110
SS Furcal 108 130
LF Manny 196 188
CF Kemp 124 115
RF Ethier 213 216

Notes

  • Russell Martin is in the midst of a seven-game hitting streak, during which he is hitting .321/.406/.536, with two home runs.  Martin hit his fourth home run of the year last night, in his 32nd game.  Last year, Martin didn't hit his fourth home run until August 20, in his 110th game of the season.
  • Edwin Jackson, first 20 starts of 2009:  6.78 IP/start, 2.59 ERA, 2.92 BB/9, 6.90 K/9, 0.86 HR/9
  • Edwin Jackson, in his 20 starts since:  5.88 IP/start, 6.04 ERA, 3.06 BB/9, 6.20 K/9, 1.61 HR/9
  • Jackson has allowed five home runs in 27 innings at home this season, although his 4.67 ERA at Chase Field looks like Bob Gibson in comparison to his 13.14 road ERA.
  • Clayton Kershaw and Blake DeWitt will host the next "Under the Lights" event at Dodger Stadium, on June 10.

Lineups

Dodgers      Diamondbacks
C Martin LF Jackson
CF Kemp SS Drew
RF Ethier RF Upton
LF Manny 3B Reynolds
1B Loney 1B LaRoche
3B Blake             
CF Young
2B DeWitt 2B Abreu
SS Carroll C Hester
P Kuroda
P Jackson

Xeifrank's simulation of today's game is here.

Game Time: 6:40pm

TV: Prime Ticket

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base manned by an old friend.

They have their first opportunity for a sweep this season

In other words, May 12 was the first “house money” game of the season. Who’d have predicted that?

That is not a house money lineup though.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s a “going to someone’s house to collect money” lineup!

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

when will Martin rest they all wondered
he plays day and night
never gives up the fight
after we’ve bettered five hundred Torre muttered

by 68elcamino427 on May 12, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

First rule of over/under

always use a half number. :)

I say over though.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it is an Over/Under

for Juan Pierre. Then you always use a tenth of a number. :)

by Xeifrank on May 12, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhh

the famous Gaedel/Pierre Corollary of 2008. How could I forget???

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

1/8 of a number

Seems more bookie-like than decimals anyway.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Over

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

when i mentioned that ethier might hit 40 homers next season with a .600 slugging

they all ridiculed me and went crazy explainging why it wasnt gonna happen

by matthewmafa on May 12, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, that’s exactly the response you got :)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Over

he basically got there last year. He’s in his prime.

by Michael White on May 12, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to be overly optimistic which is why I said 35, but the homer in me thinks 40 :)

by Ivdown on May 12, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin will get tomorrow off. : )

by Alex41592 on May 12, 2010 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Sweeps

The Dodgers were 8-4 last season when they had an opportunity to sweep a series of 3 or more games

9-4 including the playoffs :)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

AJ Ellis started the first day Furcal was out, and not since

I guess Torre was bound and determined not to start a lineup with Ellis, Carroll, and Johnson/Paul all in it while the team was in or flirting with last place. Martin has hit leadoff every game since Manny’s return.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Plus

Martin also started the first day Furcal was out! :)

I agree, Torre likes Martin as a leadoff man with Furcal out, and he is also riding out his hot streak.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Joe Torre rides Martin

like Jan Michael Vincent rode his horse in Bite The Bullet

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

17 consecutive times that the day the Dodgers have played, Russell Martin has started. That dates back to AJ.Ellis catching Haeger on 4/23.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are there any Polo fans here? I don’t get it, honestly.

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

No, but I do like/fear Pollos

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be funnier if I said the shirt. :)

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pollos is a great addition

to a great show

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh. I’m lukewarm on it.

by Michael White on May 12, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh-ver-ray-ted

Clap clap clap clap clap

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Michael

would be hit or miss on it, but I expected you to be down.

== shakes head ==

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummmm....

from Tony Jackson’s latest chat:

I have it on good authority (NOT from Colletti, from others) that if anything, Ned UNDERSTATED the issues with Kemp. This kid is really full of himself, to the point that it is becoming an issue in the clubhouse. I’m not saying they WILL trade him. I still think there is less than a 50-percent chance that they will. I’m just saying that if they do trade one of their core young players, he probably will be the one, not only because of these issues but also because he would have the most value.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

If this is indeed true, Wow!

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you seeing that in the clubhouse?

Phil?

by KellyStephen on May 12, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

I used to like TJ, but lately all he says is negative crap.

by EephusBlue on May 12, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could get a lot in return for Matt Kemp

So could I. But unfortunately You and I are not the GM of this team. :)

by Xeifrank on May 12, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question would be who replaces him. For all the flaws of Matt Kemp’s defense this year, there’s nobody in the organization who can play CF as well as he can.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

You trade him for a CFer

and some other pieces hopefully. :)

by Xeifrank on May 12, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will say this

having covered a grand total of 17 games at Dodger Stadium in the last calendar year…

Kemp isn’t the most cordial or open person to deal with, and if you approach him at the wrong time he can be downright surly.

But you know who is the most difficult-to-approach player in the clubhouse? That would be Manny Ramirez.

Both are well-liked in the clubhouse. Both produce on the field. I don’t think Matt Kemp has been caught stealing seven times because he’s thinking about having sushi with Rihanna after the game. Translation: this type of shit doesn’t matter that much.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

TJAX

is a big Ned guy. He believes in discipline. Hates young players, thinks they “don’t get it”. He was a huge fan of Jeff Kent. He thinks veterans rule and that very few young stars “get it”.

In the parlance of our times, he’s a “Player hater”.

by LA Taco on May 12, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY)

Needs to STFU.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Latham? WTF?

I grew up near Latham. Schenectady.

Tell Chris Fiegler to get his ass back in the lame-ass Latham Circle Mall — perhaps the only mall named after a traffic obstruction.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha!
perhaps the only mall named after a traffic obstruction.

Only because the Orange Circle doesn’t have a mall :)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you ever find yourself in Latham, just remember:

Nobody calls it Troy-Schenectady Road. Just call it “Route 7.”

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin hit his third home run of the year last night

I believe Martin has four home runs on the year.

by CTBMikeD on May 12, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep. Pittsburgh, NYM, Colorado, and AZ

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

Tony Jackson (6:26 PM)

No Earl, I hear Honey talk about it all the time, how these guys need to trust their stuff and attack the strike zone. I know from talking to various sources that Kershaw and Billingsley are both stubborn. There is only so much a pitching coach can do. At some point, the player has to actually HEAR the message in order to put it into practice. Honey is sending the right messages, I can tell you that.

Your sources seem to hate the young players as much as you do.

by npurcell on May 12, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

lets trade kemp

to the Phillies. Juan Castro might be hard to dislodge since Rollins is hurt but I think Kemp would be the right price..

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 12, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade him to Cleveland for LeBron; he should be free by Friday.

by KellyStephen on May 12, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love it

I would see concerns with a contract extension though….. :)

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Jackson is pretty grumpy.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

The sum total of TJ's expertise

“Yes, I do think Nick Green will be the guy to go. Nothing else they can really do. But that probably means Green will be lost, either to another organization or to free agency. And this is a guy who started about 80 games at SS for the Red Sox last season, so it’s not like you’re losing a spare part.”

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 12, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Earl (LA, CA)


Wow, Tony, didn’t know that about Kemp. I just don’t think you can afford to let a talent like his go. Do you think its just a simple case of immaturity?I mean a lot of ball players start out cocky, but mature and settle down with age. Kemp could be no different.
Tony Jackson
  (6:50 PM)


well, if it’s immaturity, he has had plenty of time to outgrow it. Based on what I’m told, he hasn’t outgrown it yet. None of this is terribly surprising, just judging from the way he handles himself with the media. He is difficult to deal with, and I’m told that isn’t limited to the media.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tony Jackson, you’re in a town where Kobe, Shaq, David Beckman, Manny, The Raiders, and a host of other famous stars live, and you’re claiming that Matt Kemp has a difficult personality to deal with?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

All these young Dodgers and their new contracts

“But now, I think some of the younger players have become so cocky that it rubs certain people the wrong way. I hope it’s an issue Joe Torre can get under control quickly, because these things tend to fester if you don’t.” -TJ

by TurnItDown on May 12, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Jackson is the definition of Tone Deaf

when it comes to baseball analysis

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

he hates bills
Todd, I’m not sure about the first part of your question, I would have to ask Honeycutt. I know he has added a slider since then. I still think Kershaw has the higher up side. He is a potential No. 1 starter, where Billingsley is maybe a No. 3 or maybe even a 4.

by npurcell on May 12, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

As for trading Kemp, I do it for David Price.

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Only if they throw in Desmond Jennings. Seriously though, Matt Kemp isnt being traded. all of this crap by Tony Jackson is just that – crap.

by UCLADodger32 on May 12, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Price has been dominant this year, but that is a lot to give up for a guy that has not had very many major league starts. I love Price, but I’m not sure I’d pull the trigger on that.

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, how about Colby Rasmus? Got to get a young stud in return.

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed there

We have to get a young stud, ready to play now guy. Rasmus is good but not good enough. Would STL be willing to part with a pitcher as well as Rasmus? My thinking being that they could prepare for life without Pujols.

I don’t think AP is leaving STL, but since we are in fairy tale land, I thought I would mention it.

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Cards would probably be the team asking for more.

My twitter = @neufaustcan

by uclatroy on May 12, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would not trade Kemp for Rasmus. But I am not the GM. Maybe you guys see what I don’t. I think Rasmus is going to be a good player. No way is he a 30-30 guy. I would rather have Kemp any day. But we are in fairy tale land now so…. :)

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets trade kemp

for Carlos Silva and peace and tranquility in the clubhouse

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 12, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

If its peace and tranquility that you want then you should really look in to Mr Jose Lima

by vadodger on May 12, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Honeycutt could fix Silva in 30 minutes

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 12, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could have Silva walking 3.5 per 9 in two weeks :)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have that much faith in Honeycutt?

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silva’s career BB/9 rate is 1.7 :)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Honeycutt would have trouble advancing that by 2 per game!

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think we can take Tony Jackson seriously today. A

A lot of what he is saying in chat is his personal opinion and not reporting.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Fixed

I don’t think we can take Tony Jackson seriously today.

by TurnItDown on May 12, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff (Hollywood)


Surprised to hear Kemp has a little bit of an issue in the clubhouse. JUST by watching the games on TV, I assumed the Dodgers have good to great clubhouse chemistry.So how would you rate Dodgers chemistry to teams you’ve seen so far?
Tony Jackson
  (6:53 PM)


Well, it’s not as bad as it was in 2007. That was the year the clubhouse basically imploded because of the rift between the young players and veterans. It was outstanding toward the end of 2008, when Jeff Kent wasn’t really a factor anymore, and all of 2009. But now, I think some of the younger players have become so cocky that it rubs certain people the wrong way. I hope it’s an issue Joe Torre can get under control quickly, because these things tend to fester if you don’t.

Somebody tell Tony Jackson that the ‘young’ players are now the veterans on the team. Who the heck are letting them rub the wrong way? George Sherrill, Garrett Anderson?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I would assume Joe Torre knows more about running things than Tony Jackson does. He has been the manager for three fucking years. If anyone could/needed to nip this in the bud, its Joe Torre.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 12, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

no shit. I hope Ramon Ortiz isn’t pissed at Matt Kemp…………what would we do?

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Garret Anderson and Matt Kemp have lockers next to each other, and are often talking to one another. The only type of person this whole “unhappy” business is coming from would be Larry Bowa or someone of that ilk.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way Jackson phrased it, it sounded like it was older players getting ticked off.

if its a coach like larry Bowa, well, frankly, why should Tony Jackson care?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Larry Bowa

is a fuckin idiot

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do know that one coach (I can’t say who) has gone so far as to recommend to the front office that they trade him [Kemp].

by TurnItDown on May 12, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could even be a case of Larry Bowa being Larry Bowa. (AKA, prickly, grumpy, willing to say whatever he wants) but you shouldn’t use him as a reliable source of what the organization is actually thinking.

If its Joe Torre making this noise, that’s news. Larry Bowa? Its Bowa’s job to be an asshole, but that doesn’t mean you treat what he says the same way as you would do with Torre.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I do recall right after the Colletti comment

Casey Blake, who is reportedly another close friend of Kemp’s, made some crack and Kemp didn’t appear to appreciate it.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that, too

but I thought it went like this:

Kemp was trying to give a calm, measured response, as if he were trying not to let the dustup bother him, and Blake made a smart-alecky comment that revealed that Colletti’s comments did, actually, bother Kemp quite a bit. And Kemp told Blake to zip it.

I could be wrong about all of that.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

but what Blake did is what players do to one another. Being sensitive in a clubhouse is probably not a good way to go.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL. I just started reading the chat with TJ. Almost every single question comes from “Earl in LA”. Anyone else think Earl in LA is Tony?

by UCLADodger32 on May 12, 2010 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Kinda like our very own meercatjohn???

by KellyStephen on May 12, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more I read the comments from TJ, the less likely they seem to be real. Kemp may have an attitude, but most of the players in the clubhouse have known him for years. They are probably used to it and it doesn’t make sense that all of the sudden it is an issue.

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Listening to talk radio today when I did some driving around on errands.

Despite the Lakers being off until next week, the local radio stations decided that the Celtics-Cavs series was more important than what the Dodgers or Angels did.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

of course

the dodgers dont even exist until July, and then its to talk shit about them

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 12, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Umm and why not

if the Celtics win, the Lakers have a shot at home court. And basically this town is a Laker town Then a Dodger town, then anything else.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually it was more about how much of a choker LeBron was, how much of an asshole he was to the fans. That he can’t carry the jockstrap for Cleveland, etc.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

When the league MVP (2 time running)

Has a horrible game in the biggest game his franchise has had this year. It’s going to be a topic of conversation.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeff Kent is still in Colletti’s ear. He probably has an axe to grind.

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I think there could be kernels of truth of what TJ

is saying. Doesn’t mean that it means anything.,

Heck if reporters did chats from the teams in 70s., you would have known things that you might not have wanted to know.

Now, more stuff gets out and because you really can only talk about the game so much, you get into players and personalities.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Hardly a chance Kemp recently gave Jackson the cold shoulder?

by 68elcamino427 on May 12, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should it color the reporting to the extent it has on TJ?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

if he doesn’t talk, yes it is going to color it since he has nothing to from him that contributes to the story.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You see

the player doesn’t have an obligation to be cooperative but it is in his best interest to be cordial, those are signs of being a mature adult.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny doesn't do it

But then what else negative could be said about him and he is already won rings and made lots of money.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could turn it the other way around and argue that the reporter doesn’t have to act the absence of a quote from a player is a sign of being unprofessional.

Is the reporter really being professional here or is he letting his bias shown by selectively choosing a quote that disparages a player he does not have a good relationship with?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess my point is,:

Is Kemp really a jerk?
Does that affect his play?
Should it affect Tony Jackson’s reporting of him or other players?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

Kemp’s fielding is down, I think we can agree. His baserunning (at least stealing, is off), the hitting suffered during manny’s absence.

So if I asked Matt if anything is going on, and he was snarky, what am i supposed to do with that.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Report it just like you did, and not claim somebody in the organization says Kemp should be traded?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Jackson is lying. He is well connected and it’s not unfathomable that (for instance) Larry Bowa would think or say such a thing.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on how you asked him.

If you approached it honestly and with a respectful phrasing — “what are you doing to try to get back to the form you showed last year?” — and he was snarky, then…. maybe.

But if you said, “Your fielding sucks this year. Why?” Well, snark in, snark out.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey if I was a beat reporter

and one of the stars of the team was being uncooperative when all I am doing is trying to do my job, it would be difficult not to let that seep into my stories.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We ask players to not let their personal issues affect their field of play. Why not reporters?

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not a personal issue

If Kemp is not cooperative to the media, that is not personal.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson is making it personal by letting his biases show to such an extent.

That might actually be fine, but he then needs to clarify that its his own opinion and not somebody in the organization.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are making an unnecessary leap that Jackson is lying. There is the very real possibility that somebody in the organization thinks Matt Kemp should be traded.

Is Jackson biased? Yes, incredibly so at times.

Is Jackson lying? No

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very real possibility that somebody in the organization thinks Kemp should be traded?

I suppose so, but if he got this info from Bowa and using that as his “source within the organization” that’s as close to lying as you can get (seeing as how Bowa would presumably be completely outside the decision making process in that regard.)

by Michael White on May 12, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not close to lying

Bowa could certainly be the one “recommending to the front office” that Kemp should be traded.

And it’s clear from Jackson’s answers that he has a source who is not a Kemp fan.

Again, biased: yes…lying: hell no

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jackson obviously is closer to the coaches

than the players. Maybe its a generational thing, but whatever the reason, it taints anything he writes and you can’t trust any of it because it’s one-sided. And maybe that’s the case with most/all sportswriters, but it still makes them suspect.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Diamond Leung's favorite go to guy

was Larry Bowa.

Beat reporters like coaches since they know the drill and will talk

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But my argument is you still should be suspicious if you are not getting both sides

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You add context

Like I’m not getting the whole story, but this is what I’m hearing from one side.

Now the next point is “then the coaches will stop talking to him also”.

And that’s a possibility. But the way it is now, you certainly can’t trust anything written as the truth.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom line is

It’s probably a lousy gig to be a sportswriter

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Tony doesn't consider this blog chatting

“reporting” and holds himself to a different standard that what he writes in articles. If he had enough for a solid, well-sourced article on clubhouse issues, wouldn’t he just write that article instead of scooping himself by writing these blog comments? He’s only got one source, not two, so he can’t run with it, but he can let ’em loose in the chat.

Bah, I’m just babbling.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

In talking to Diamond Leung about this

He always felt what he wrote via the paper or in his case now webistes, was a much different standard than chats or answers to blog questions. Chats and blog questions are more opinion driven.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite part of the TJ comments

is how he says he thinks there is a “less than 50\ percent” chace that Kemp will be traded.

By saying “less than 50%,” it’s win-win for Jackson. One of two things will happen.

1. Kemp not traded: “Well, I did tell you it wasn’t likely.” WIN
2. Kemp traded: “Something must have happened that nudged it over the 50% line.” WIN

Yeah, I also think it’s less than 50% that Kemp will be traded. I think it’s exactly zero percent. How you like them apples, Jackson?!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

DiMaggio was always aloof

And Ruth was the Tiger Woods of his era.

But reporters didn’t talk about those things.

by MartinGreen on May 12, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

it was a different world then.

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Kemp is just trying to be Rihanna’s “Rude Boy”?

by UCLADodger32 on May 12, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

You know if Jackson was talking about

James Loney, Blake Dewitt or even Russell Martin, how many of you would care?

by bhsportsguy on May 12, 2010 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

James Loney and Russell Martin did get this type of treatment from years past.

Including the infamous “A.J. Ellis has a chance to be a starter” last year source.

I personally thought it was bullshit and a punk move.

by Tripon on May 12, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

definitely was not expecting to hear Kemp to the trading block rumors in the midst of this 3 game win streak

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on May 12, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s not. There are no rumors. It’s just Tony Jackson being Tony Jackson.

by UCLADodger32 on May 12, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Chris Fiegler (Latham,NY)

about fucking all-star games.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Latham.

Latham isn’t even the middle of nowhere. At least when you’re in the middle of nowhere, you’re halfway to somewhere.

Latham on an extreme end of nowhere, sharing a border with oblivion.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

No wonder he sounds like a guy cooped up in a basement.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I know

I should have said I didn’t expect that to be the hot topic of this thread haha

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on May 12, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have it on good authority

the biggest problem with Matt Kemp is the size of his cock and when they say he’s to damn cocky they are simply being literal, and the small penis guys hate having him lord his Guerrero over them.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 12, 2010 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

As they use to tell Milton Berle

Just show em enough to win

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 12, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Maybe Kemp stole Jackson’s gf for a night?

by 68elcamino427 on May 12, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna write a scene.

I think that would be in bad taste.

Even for me.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 12, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or rec'd

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post sir!

I think it was Warren Sapp that said “Derrick Brooks c**k is so big, it should have a knee in it.”

That is funny

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

good one David

BTW, in 50 years of baseball……

That is the shit!

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to change the topic...

…but is Bradley Whitford modeling his new TV character on Ned?

by Little Blue Bicycle on May 12, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Is that the dude in Billy Madison?

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that’s Ned … in a happier time …

by 68elcamino427 on May 12, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alert Silverwidow

turn to MLB Network stat!

Strasburg has a no-hitter through 6

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you, but I’m still stuck at work. We all know the virtues of STRASBURG by now, though.

by silverwidow on May 12, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure of his current pitch count

but the MLB Network guys were talking over the footage debating on whether or not he would be pulled with a no-no if he hit his pitch count.

I think they showed a guy warming up in the pen during the 6th, too.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the minor leagues

this is a debate? Of course he gets pulled.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on May 12, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I would let him finish it if he was through 8 innings and hadn’t yet hit his pitch limit.

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

if it makes you feel better, I am still at work too.

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Jamie Moyer

the only pitcher to compete in 4 decades?

by keithc13 on May 12, 2010 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I heard the other day he was the only pitcher with a shutout in 4 different decades (I’m assuming using the 1990-1999 system)

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Lyons

“Everybody knows my dad was one of the best coaches I had…”

Umm, I didn’t know that Steve. Who is your dad?

by Eric Stephen on May 12, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

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