Kershaw Eases Dodgers Pain: Dodgers 4, Padres 1
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 8:21 PM PDT
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PrintClayton Kershaw was brilliant for the second straight start, and the Dodgers won their sixth straight game, 4-1 over the Padres. Kershaw had trouble in the first inning again, allowing a single and a walk to the first two batters. He got out of the inning allowing just one run, but he has allowed eight walks in eight first innings this season. However, after that Kershaw didn't allow a thing.
Kershaw pitched seven innings in total, allowing a mere five baserunners, including a season-best two walks. He struck out seven batters, and induced 14 swinging strikes, the same number he got last Sunday against the Rockies. Per MLB At-Bat Gameday, 10 of the swinging strikes tonight were on fastballs, and the other four were on sliders.
James Loney started the Dodger offense in the second with a booming home run to right center field over the 400 foot sign hit by Andre Ethier last night. Speaking of Ethier, he was a late scratch after jamming his right pinky while taking extra batting practice. Vin Scully said during the broadcast that Ethier wasn't hit by a pitch, but rather simply hurt his pinky during batting practice, and that Ethier dropped the bat in pain. The details are all vague at this point, but it's worth noting that Xavier Paul was removed in the third inning of tonight's Isotopes' game in Salt Lake City. If Ethier has to go on the disabled list, Paul is the likely choice to take his spot on the active roster.
UPDATE: On the Dodger postgame show on KABC, it was reported Ethier has a small fracture in his pinky, and is headed back to Los Angeles for further revaluation. The Xavier Paul move, for now, was just precautionary, and no move has yet been made. In fact, Joe Torre told reporters after the game that Paul was removed from the game because he was hit by a throw (per Dylan Hernandez via Twitter).
Tony Jackson of ESPN LA has some more details about Ethier's injury, and it doesn't sound promising:
There was no initial indication, from Dodgers trainer Stan Conte or anyone else, as to whether Ethier is likely to be placed on the disabled list. But each player holds the bat slightly differently, and Ethier seemed to indicate that this injury would prevent him from holding it the way he normally does.
"It's a flexion thing,'' he said. "I kind of position that pinky right above the knob, and it's a leverage point in my swing.''
UPDATE (9:37pm): Apparently, Xavier Paul's removal from the game was unrelated to Ethier's injury, as he was hit in the head with a thrown ball pre-game and complained of headaches during the game so he was removed and taken to a hospital for precautionary reasons, where he checked out okay.
Notes
- Russell Martin extended his hitting streak to 10 games with an RBI single in the fifth inning. The single came on a curve from Kevin Correia, prompting Vin Scully to drop this line: "A breaking ball up, like a letter from home..."
- Garret Anderson, starting in right field in place of Ethier, hit a triple to right in the sixth, Anderson's first triple since August 27, 2008
- Ramon Troncoso and Jonathan Broxton retired the final six batters in order to close out the game. In fact, the final 11 batters on both sides were retired in order.
WP - Clayton Kershaw (3-2): 7 IP, 3 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 7 strikeouts
LP - Kevin Correia (4-3): 5 1/3 IP, 5 hits, 4 runs, 2 walks, 4 strikeouts
Sv - Jonathan Broxton (6): 1 IP
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tonight's win
Guaranteed winning the first 5 series against NL West opponents.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 8:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not sure what the league factor is for the PCL, but his FIP for the night was ~3.20. But when is the last time someone got called up after giving up 7 runs and 10 hits in one start?
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I am thinking
The Dodgers will wait until 29th to make that move, if at all.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 8:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NL west record
We are now 11-3 against the west, 8-14 against everyone else.
Listening to the postgame now
Added some notes above
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was because Ethier only has one assist this year :)
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Jack Cust is an embarrasment
Angels are putting the whack down on the A’s
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah, I was playing baseball with my son today for the first time, trying to impart to him the importance of using two hand to catch the ball. I turned on the Angels game to see that colossal (well, not so colossal, I guess, given the score) muff … and brought my son in to watch.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on May 15, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Just spitballing here
My guess at tomorrow’s lineup:
Carroll SS
Johnson LF
Loney 1B
Kemp CF
Belliard 3B
Anderson RF
DeWitt 2B
Ellis C
Billingsley P
looks like another pinch hit in the top of 7th
I hope I am wrong.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 8:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s a stab in the dark…not sure if Manny will still sit with Ethier now out.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
With Ethier out, Manny might start. Could be a 20 inning 0-0 game without him in the lineup.
From Jim Peltz of the LA Times, via Dylan H
Joe Torre said that Xavier Paul won’t be in San Diego tomorrow, according to Jim Peltz
neither will ethier
Casey Blake may need to break out his outfielder’s glove.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 9:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i thought
Nate was in Vegas; last thing he should be concerned with is player moves.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 9:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
More Dylan
Torre told reporters in San Diego that Xavier Paul was pulled early because he was hit by a throw
It seems strange
That Torre knew this so soon
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 9:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ethire injured hand. Bobble head tuesday
Bases load ph?
by LA Taco on May 15, 2010 9:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
HR & SB in same game
Dodgers since the beginning of 2008:
Kemp 7 (including last night)
Martin 4
Loney 3 (including tonight)
Ethier 1
Blake 1
Belliard 1
Tonight's a good night:
I get to watch the Dodgers win 6th in row, 2nd vs Padres, and I convince my g/f to watch The Hangover (in HD!); my 3rd time, her first. All is good.
All I needed was some sofa pizza.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I don’t know what sofa pizza is, but it sounds delicious
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
See lv's quote, scene late in film
One of many classic Zach Galifinakis moments
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ha!
Completely forgot about that, and I’ve seen it 4 times!!!
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh not next week, the Jonas Brothers are in town
but any other week after that would work!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I swear I just got done watching that for the first time tonight. Piecing together tonight’s game is like watching that movie. Did Ethier pet Tyson’s tiger?
I think Ethier broke his own pinky
to impress a stripper who was skeptical he knew how. And was on roofies at the time.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Just for fun, I’m going to wait it out on the MLB Network to see how long they take to show Dodgers highlights. I rewound the Tivo, and it’s been 30 minutes so far.
Gee, let’s analyze that critical Reds game another 10 minutes.
Oooh
a “flotsam and jetsam” reference on Dodger Talk (referring to the back end of the Dodger rotation). I like it.
By comparison, would we say Ethier's injury is same as Coco Crisp's?
Also had fractured pinky finger, in his left pinky. He’s a switch hitter. He was out for a month. Would that be worst case scenario then for Ethier? Up to a month?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Can he make it to San Diego tomorrow? ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I thought he was mostly 1B/LF
Didn’t remember seeing anything about CF, but I can’t say for certain.
Not counting today
Sands has played 44 pro games in the OF. 23 of them as as CF.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/Fielding/S/Jerry-Sands.shtml
He doesn’t really have the footspeed or range needed to play CF and there’s thought that he’ll also out and become heavier. This isn’t Winfield or Kemp, he’s a likely RF.
Ken Levine and Josh Suchon are picking apart Tony Jackson’s chat comments right now on Dodger Talk (actually, the Saturday Sports Final). Awesome stuff.
They haven’t had problems with Kemp, and said if you want a bad clubhouse guy, think Jeff Kent.
They also said any idea of trading Matt Kemp is insane.
wow- they're kinda going off on Tony Jackson on Dodger Talk!
not personally, just calling his line of commentary on Matt Kemp utterly ridiculous…without using those words. (“off base”, “wrong”, “ludicrous”, wondering if there’s some personal issue with Kemp & TJax, etc. etc.)
How can i listen to dodger talk on the computer?
by SeanMillerSavior on May 15, 2010 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
http://www.kabc.com/article.asp?id=649447
THe feed on the website is a few mintues behind apprently.
FAIL
Someone just suggested they’d accept Kemp for Lincecum. I mean, everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but trading someone who could be a borderline franchise player to your ARCH-RIVAL?! No way- not even for the one of the best starting pitchers in the game!
I would do that deal in a second.
But the caller’s point was that nobody is untouchable, which is always correct.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
really?!
Wow, I thought I was preaching to the choir on that one.
How come when ever anyone suggests the mere possibility of Jeter or Rivera going anywhere else, everyone always says, “Oh noooo! They’re Yankees! They can’t POSSIBLY put on another uniform,” but with just about anyone else, it’s, “Well, that’s life. Trades happen?” I’m not asking this facetiously or to be a smart-ass, I’m genuinely perplexed by this.
At this point, I don’t see Jeter and Rivera going anywhere either, but those are different situations than Kemp, both with entrenched histories with the greatest franchise in the sport.
The caller’s point, which I agree with, is simply that nobody is untouchable. For instance, while it’s unlikely a great player or superstar would be traded, there is always a price at which you would at least listen.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
or an even better question
…does this mean that if the Dodgers had made a good trade for Piazza, it would have been ok with you?
So far you have brought up three sure fire hall of famers in comparison to Matt Kemp. I’m trying to figure out why.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Kemp has most of his career, and presumably his best years, in front of him. I think he has a good chance of becoming a Hall of Fame caliber player, and the Dodgers are long overdue for one of those “Face-of-the-Franchise” types- maybe even two!
But the greater point is, there clearly are circumstances where the idea of someone putting on another uniform is sacrilegious, and I don’t think it should just apply to the Yankees. I mean, either everyone’s tradeable if the price is right, or they’re not. Derek Jeter & Rivera are Hall-of-Famers, but so was Duke Snider. So was Willie Mays. So was Pete R…ummm, well, you get the idea.
Final point: This whole “Yankees=sacred” is actually much more recent than most people realize, as it wasn’t that long ago that they were punchlines on Seinfeld and the Simpsons! But again, if we are to adopt those rules, I like the idea that a select few Dodgers should be thought of in those terms in the near future, as well.
The Yankees have a 200 million dollar payroll so they can afford to keep these guys, the Dodgers don’t have room to do that. The backlash for trading Jeter and Rivera would be HUGE and really hurt the Yankees I’d guess. For everything that both of these guys have done they have kind of a free pass to retire as Yankees, and I’d imagine that them still performing extremely well is just icing on the cake. I think that to most Yankee fans, they just assume that Rivera and Jeter are doing great regardless of if they really are or not.
Trading Piazza was awful, but if he was traded for A-Rod I would have sucked it up and accepted it.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
What I don’t understand about that trade is that it involved a couple of minor leaguers, sheffield, and then 3 other guys with 1 year left on their contract. That kind of a trade would NEVER happen in today’s game. If that very same Piazza was going to be traded tomorrow, it would bring in at least 3 or 4 minor leaguers and possibly 1 or 2 young major leaguers. Basically what might have happened if Mauer was traded instead of resigning, though that Piazza should be able to bring back a bigger reward than Mauer IMO.
You have to remember
At that time, it was apparent that Fox had no intention of paying Piazza what they thought they would have to pay them.
Also, teams did not value minor league prospects as much as they do now, the economy of baseball was different.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
While we got 5 shitty as fuck players in that deal, we still got one great one. Sheff was the only player on the team for longer than 98 I am fairly certain. It wasn’t a great trade because Piazza is obviously much more valuable over the next 5 or so years than Sheffield was, but it wasn’t a complete loss like Pedro for Delino.
I love Kemp a trillion times more than I like Lincecum, but I’d definitely do that trade. There are about 10-15 other players I’d trade Kemp straight up for as well, but that is a small list. I just went through the entire MLB team by team and listed who’d I’d trade for, then my stupid computer reloaded the page so I lost it…
But here’s something off the top of my head:
Lincecum
J. Upton
Pujols
Braun
Utley
Strasburg (I wouldn’t do this yet, but if he’s good to great for about a year in the MLB I would probably do it)
Wright
Hanley
Wieters (Possibly if he starts showing his potential, otherwise I’d rather have Kemp)
Longoria
Greinke
Haren
King Felix
I think that’s it. Right now I’d do Kemp straight up for about all of these guys except Strasburg and Wieters, and those 2 if they have a great showing in the MLB for more than half a season.
Would anyone disagree with these guys?
putting aside my reactionary tendancies to keep "franchise" players
DEFINITELY not Wright, as people are wondering if he’ll be the same after getting hit in the head by Cain, and none of the pitchers. I just don’t trade near-superstar caliber players for pitchers. Just my personal policy, right or wrong. Kind of a bizarro-Silverwidow, I guess.
It’s bizarre that I love great pitchers? I’m trying to figure out what you’re saying here.
by silverwidow on May 15, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
It's bizarre that you go from one to the next
Like saying Brett Anderson has surpassed Kershaw already, and now you’re back to saying Kershaw is the messiah (behind Strasburg of course, and Tallion or whatever his name is, lol).
:P
At this point, the Dodgers offense would suffer without Kemp, but the team would also greatly improve with any of Haren, Lincecum, Greinke, or Felix. Haren is the oldest of all of these guys (28 I believe, right?), and they still have a long time of dominating to go.
And besides Strasburg and Wieters, do you disagree with any of the others listed, besides Wright?
And I would consider doing it for Wright because he’s easily one of the top 5 position players of the last 5 years. I am worried about him since the middle of last year, but he’s still doing really well this year. He has a career line of .307/.389/.518 and a line of .272/.404/.512 this season. He’s already posting a 1.5 WAR this season, with a -0.1 UZR so far. Wright is a stud.
Met fans are concerned about Wright
in a similar way that Dodger fans were concerned about Martin. Yes, Wright at his best was better than Martin at his best and was at that level much longer. However, if those who watch him every day are wondering if it’s possible that he won’t be the same going forward, we should take that seriously. Of course, it’s always possbile that he’ll rebound and that his fans are simply overreacting, but I think it’s a fair question whether he’ll be as good as Kemp from this point forward.
As for the pitchers, I think my policy blinds me to any objective analysis. :)
I’m not sure why anyone is questioning Wright’s play when he’s putting up a better OBP than his career numbers and slightly (very slightly) lower SLG % than his career numbers. Sure his average is lower, but he’s walking more and slugging the same. I don’t get to watch him play every day, or even very often, so I can’t say for sure. I just see that his numbers are still very good, and he’s putting up a .900 OPS with at least average defense at third base, and he’s even got 8 stolen bases so far.
Wright>Kemp
5 guys I would trade Kemp for
1. Jason Heyward – Duh. Probably going to end up the greatest hitter of the 2010s
2. Stephen Strasburg – Can’t add anything that hasn’t already been said
3. Evan Longoria – Most valuable commodity in baseball at the moment
4. Roy Halladay – Best pitcher in baseball
5. Hanley Ramirez – Best offensive SS since A-Rod
by silverwidow on May 15, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be dumb to trade for Halladay. He’s making 18 million a year, and he’s already in his 30s. The only pitchers I would consider are guys in the low to mid 20s, and Haren who hasn’t yet reached his 30s. I forgot to include Heyward, because he’s someone I would consider, but not pull the trigger on just yet for Kemp.
Thanks but I will do that “dumb” trade anyway. If there’s an expensive veteran pitcher that’s absolutely worth every cent, it’s Halladay. Less than 2 walks per 9. Tons of CGs. The list goes on.
by silverwidow on May 15, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Have any other batters gotten broken pinkies...if so how long were they out?
You’d think Ethier could play thru it, but if he cant are we talking a month on the DL?
I mentioned this earlier but if it's anything like Coco Crisp
who fractured his right pinky (and is a switch hitter, so it’s possible he needed longer to recover), Crisp was out a month, He was injured in April and is just about to come back now, just FWIW. I am thinking Ethier will be back sooner than that, but this is partially a gut feeling at this point. I would bank on at least 2 weeks tho.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
well, I guess I am
but I bought bought some 7 or 8 years ago, when it wasn’t advertised on the radio nearly as much. To tell you the truth, it’s about the only investment that’s worked out for me so far!
who would invest in something
where the advertiser doesnt even know the phone number
by SeanMillerSavior on May 15, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
especially now that he is damaged goods :)
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If we give them the bobble-heads
can we get Mota back as well?
by SeanMillerSavior on May 15, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I would go after Brett Anderson instead (but only once he proves his health).
by silverwidow on May 15, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Our old friend Bryan Morris is dominating A+
3-0 .60 ERA 44 1/3 IP 37 H 3 ER 7 BB 40 K’s
by SeanMillerSavior on May 15, 2010 10:50 PM PDT reply actions
I know but after his disaster last season
It is nice to see that he is starting to put it together
by SeanMillerSavior on May 15, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad to see that
He didn’t seem to have a big future with us, so I’m glad to see he’s doing well somewhere else.
I don't know about that
He had only just returned from surgery that year, I don’t think anyone could make any assumptions on what they thought their future plans for Morris at that point.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Suchon just mentioned it too, saying “we learned today…”
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s crazy, didn’t know that. Hope Ely gets every single start between now and then.
by silverwidow on May 15, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You were right -- typo
from Tony Jackson:
Right-hander Vicente Padilla, who has been on the 15-day DL since April 25 with a nerve problem at the top of his forearm, still hasn’t thrown off a mound and probably won’t return until around the middle of June. Torre said Padilla probably will need at least three minor-league rehab starts when he is ready for competition, and that alone will take about 11 days.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
but now I see Gurnick’s sentence, and yes that does look like a typo
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A bold affront to jinxes everywhere
If the Dodgers win 16-4 tomorrow, they will match their best week of last season, the opening homestand when they won all six games and outscored the Giants and Rockies a combined 50-17.
Sunday game at Petco
Billingsley on the mound.
I hope Eric isn’t driving anywhere tomorrow afternoon.
by bhsportsguy on May 15, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The only possible driving destination will be “…myself to drink”
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Xeifrank’s mobile simulator is idling in the TBLA parking garage [lower level] and would like a word with you. It did not look amused.
Luckily for us, the TBLA parking garage is located in the very secure Nakatomi Plaza.
by Eric Stephen on May 15, 2010 11:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not that this is a surprise, but Ramon Ortiz is listed as the Wednesday starter in today’s Dodger game notes
by Eric Stephen on May 16, 2010 7:55 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Tommy Davis broke his ankle
Andre Ethier broke his pinky
Many players grip the bat with the ring finger on the knob and the pinky on the knob or under it.
Some players use a bat without a knob at the end, Willie Stargel was one who did that.
Bold Prediction – Ethier will need to alter his grip on the bat.
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