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Houston Astros - Team Preview

Season Series: First meeting of the year.

Houston comes to town with the worse record in the NL at 13 - 24. The Giants just finished sweeping them right after the Astro's had swept the struggling Cardinals. They managed to score only six runs in three games against the Giants. They finally have Berkman back but he has done little to help the anemic offense. They have a .228 team average, and a .328 team wOBA both dead last in the NL. Their best hitter is a pitcher named Felipe Paulino who at this point is a better hitter then pitcher. As far as pitching goes the Astro's have a solid 4.13 ERA right around league average.  The FIP is even batter at .364 good for 4th in the league, and the xFIP is 3.99 also good for the fourth in the league. So while the Astro's can't hit, contrary to popular opinion they can pitch. We will be seeing two pitchers who have much higher ERA's then FIP so don't be surprised if all these games are low scoring. 

Old Friends: None

Position Breakdown:

1st Base-Lance Berkman missed the start of the year and is slowly rounding into shape. A week ago his OPS was sitting below .700, and it is now at .818.   Berkman has been one of the best hitting 1st baseman for the last ten years, and is still a potent force with the bat. Actually I can't say that, for quite a few years he was an outfielder so I'll just say he's been one of the better hitters in the NL since he started playing full time in 2000.

2nd Base-Jeff Keppinger and Kaz Matsui share 2nd base and neither can hit. Between the both of them they have managed 9 doubles, no triples, no home runs. Very DeWitt like, but without the ability to draw a walk.

SS-Tommy Manzella mans SS for them and is another SS in the long line of Astro shortstops who can't hit.  His wOBA of .212 has to be one of the lowest in baseball for someone with over 100 plate appearances. Unlike Everett who was at least a wiz with the glove, Manzella appears to be average at best.

3rd Base-Ex Giant Pedro Feliz takes his ancient bat and glove to the Astro hot corner and not surprisingly is having a tough time of it. A TSL of .233/.252/.320 tells you all you need to know. Other then 1st base the Astro's might have the worse hitting infielder at each position.

Catcher - The Astro's demoted Kevin Towles and are now going with Humberto Quintero / Kevin Cash as their catching duo. This is a team that could use Brad Ausmus back. Even the one with the bad back. These guys have been AAA fodder for years. AJ Ellis your future is calling and it is not  being Martin's lackey but playing everyday for the Astro's.  When people wonder if Lucas May has a future in the Major Leagues they only need to look at who the Astro's are starting.

Right Field- Hunter Pence not to long ago was the bright young star of the Astro's when he burst upon the scene in 2007. He has never replicated what he did in 2007 but he has had three solid years until this year. Unlike the other Astro's who are not hitting, Pence can hit but simply has not gotten it going yet. His TSL of .248/.265/.421 tell his struggling story. Where did the plate discipline go? Last year he walked 9% of the time, this year 2%. 

Center Field- Michael Bourn can actually play some ball. Known most for his penchant for stealing bases (61 in 2009) he can also take a walk and hits enough to be a valuable commodity.  His wOBA of .343 is solid and I just love speed who can carry a double digit walk rate (10%).

Left Field- Carlos Lee has been a quiet but productive power hitter since 1999. His time might be over. He had some declining peripherals entering 2010 but they have fallen off the cliff, and the once solid threesome of Lee/Berkman/Pence is now just Berkman. Lee has a TSL of .199/.247/.301 and while his BABIP is only .211 that does not explain the .301 slug%. Is anyone getting paid more and doing less then Carlos Lee? I actually had to do a double take on the .301 slug%.  Lee has a career slug% of .499 and it was over .500 before the start of this year. I'm not sure what TBLA would do if the guy earning the most money on the team had an OPS of .548 on May 17th.

Reserves

You know the starters are not very good, so the bench can't be much better.  Beside the platoon players mentioned above the rest of the bench consists of  Jason Michaels and Jeff Blum. Blum was getting some time at 1st when Berkman was out and he can play anywhere on the diamond. A nice versatile player, as long as he's your utility guy your doing okay. Jason Michaels is a decent backup outfielder.

Starting Pitching for our Series:

Game One: Wandy Rodriguez not Roy Oswalt was the best Astro pitcher in 2009. Not happening in 2010. He's not doing as bad as his 4.82 suggests with a FIP of 3.83, and an xFIP of .405 but the K Rate has dropped from 8.45 to 5.96 and that can't be good.  He does like Dodger Stadium and has given up an OPS of only .634 in four career starts.

Game Two: Bud Norris should be fun to watch. He strikes out a lot (10.75) and walks alot (5.24). His ERA of 6.03 is way off his FIP of 3.47 due to a 39% BABIP. He's a two pitch pitcher with a 93 MPH FB and a 88MPH slider. 5% of the time he'll mix in a change.

Bullpen:

They imported Matt Lindstrom to be the closer and for the most part he's done the job when given the lead. He just doesn't get many leads. Brandon Lyon sets him up and so far has been what he normally does. Chris Sampson and Jeff Fulchino round out the right handers who do the bulk of the work. Tim Byrdak  is the LHP who might not have to face Andre over the next few games.

Series Prediction:

None - The Dodgers have barely hit the ball since Andre left the lineup.

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Need some help

Are there any soccer fans on True Blue LA? I am looking specifically for fans of the LA Galaxy and/or Chivas USA. Working on a crossover post and need some soccer expertise (I have none).

If interested, either reply here or shoot me an email… eric d stephen at gmail dot com

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

While I'm a soccer fan I don't follow the LA MLS teams alas...

if I have an MLS team it’s the San Jo Quakes but not that into them either. ;-)

If I think of a friend who can help will pass ’em on though.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds like a terrible idea

by delias man on May 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's a terrible idea?

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by underdog on May 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

discussing soccer

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

D'oh...

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

WTF...

Soccer is a great sport… The best competition in the world will come next month: World Cup 2010 in South Africa…

Amanda Righetti <3

by Jojo93160 on May 17, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir here

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy watching the Galaxy, but I probably don’t have the familiarity with the team that you are looking for. But I am more than happy to help you if needed!

and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.

by DodgerBlueBalls on May 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope the Dodgers don't look past this series

or that I jinxed it yesterday. ;-) These are sort of trap series, as the Cardinals found out last week, but on paper even without Ethier they SHOULD beat the Astros. Here’s hoping the matchups work out as expected.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Only a 2 game series, the dodgers shouldnt be facing paulino. I think?

by papercrane on May 17, 2010 9:30 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Do i win anything?

by papercrane on May 17, 2010 9:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Respect and admiration

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man - I put a lot of work into that Paulino breakdown:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saved it in drafts in case you need it in the future :)

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN Fail?

Yes, I am aware of the current (unreliable in short samples) UZR that drags Matt Kemp’s WAR down to poor levels, but….

The following poll appears on ESPN LA:

Who is the Dodgers best player


  • Chad Billingsley
  • Jonathan Broxton
  • Andre Ethier
  • Clayton Kershaw
  • Manny Ramirez
  • It seems to me at the very least, Matt Kemp should merit a spot on that poll. Right? Right????

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Not according to Ned.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured Tony Jackson didn’t make the list since John Ely wasn’t an option :)

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

We should not have been unKempt.

by kinbote on May 17, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two weeks ago, who would have thought Bills would have made the list? Love his turnaround but he does need to be bumped for Kemp.

by CarolinaDodger on May 17, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes indeed

though I feel good about our team when that list is not easy to make, as far as who to leave off. Imagine how easy the Astros’ list would be.

But as much as I love Bills I might have Kemp there instead of him… or expand to 6. ;-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda deserves an honorable mention.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

You could make a persuasive argument that if the list had only one pitcher, it should be Kuroda.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, expand poll to 7 :-)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who would you knock off?

Billingsley for me, then Manny

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you there

Though possibly Bills then Broxton. If Bills is really fixed, then I’d go Broxton then Manny then Bills.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised Bills is on there over Kemp. But this may just be a testament to how many great players this team has.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

According to WAR (will all the SSS warnings Eric mentions above)

1) Andre Ethier: WAR 1.6
2) Hiroki Kuroda: WAR 1.2
3) Rafael Furcal: WAR 1.1
4) Jon Broxton: WAR 0.9
5 tie) Chad Billingsley: WAR 0.8
5 tie) Russel Martin: WAR 0.8

Negative WAR’s:
Haeger, Sherrill, Ramon Ortiz, Nick Green, Matt Kemp, Garrett Anderson

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

my initial thoughts

were Ethier and then Kuroda. Kuoroda has been ACE so far this year. Surprise to still see Raffy there after missing so much time already. Cool beans though.

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hard to believe how bad the Astro offense has been

until you research it. They remind me of the 68 White Sox where I’d stare at the sporting news in disbelief. Even for that pitching age it was grim.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/1968.shtml

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Career batting averages

Ethier .29679
Loney .29638
Kemp .29630

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

end of career

who ends up with the highest end of career BA?

Loney for me….

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably Loney. Much of Kemp’s average is speed driven. Loney’s is not.

by Xeifrank on May 17, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, that is bizarre

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the two with no broken bones go 2 for 4 tonight

The numbers after tonight will be:

Loney .29684
Ethier .29679
Kemp .29675

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

minor league BA

Kemp: 311
Ethier: 314
Loney: 296 (!!!)

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

D-Backs bullpen

just got…well, another player:

Diamondbacks have acquired right-handed pitcher Saul Rivera from the Cleveland Indians in exchange for cash considerations

http://twitter.com/JHamrahi/status/14172838240

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Well played sir!

Is that the bus bench outside of “Pollos Hermanos?”

and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.

by DodgerBlueBalls on May 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah, yep, I believe so

Also known as the Chicken Brothers.

More Better Call Saul ads.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on May 17, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paul

why don’t they call him up and just give Dre 15 days of rest?

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Because they are holding out hope Ethier doesn’t have to miss 15 days.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

C'mon...

Bottom of the barrell Houston. Take a stand here….
Dodgers 2-0

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha

Astro pitching is not bad, we won’t have Andre, Manny is slumping, Kemp is slumping, Blake is slumping, they have Berkman, Lee, and Pence so they could score three runs, these guys can’t stay bad forever. Maybe we whump them, maybe we don’t.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It will be interesting on Tuesday to watch the contrast

from the command perfect Ely and the hard throwing have no idea where it is going Norris.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ely is pitching today.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then nevermind

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That...

is the best screen name I have ever seen.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

im mad at myself that I forgot to have the last ‘he’ be ‘hee’ but oh well.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

still an excellent name haha

rivals the mccovey reader that’s got “where there’s a Willie, there’s a Mays”

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on May 17, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh....

it is a heck of a lot better than that.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

well of course

that was just the only other “baseball name/catch phrase allusion” I could think of haha

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on May 17, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is expected back today. He was hit in the head during warmups Saturday and ended up leaving the game in the 3rd inning after complaining of headaches.

If they need to DL Ethier, he is healthy enough to get called up.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would it be Hoffmann in the off chance he couldn’t go?

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s hope it does not come to that.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hoffman is the hottest hitter in the PCL

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wake me when he is the hottest hitter in the NL

by delias man on May 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You will be sleeping forever

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doubtful

Hoffmann isn’t on the 40-man. Unless they put Padilla on the 60-day DL (a possibility, but I doubt it since he could be ready before June 22) they don’t have room.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

Those 40 spaces fill up quickly.

They could always DFA Mr. Negative WAR in Ramon Ortiz. I know, I know, they won’t.

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Haeger DFA is also an option, correct?

Or is there a rule about DFA’ing somebody whilst they are on a rehab assignment?

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think they can until he’s off the DL.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have heard whispers that the legend of Trayvon Robinson could be born in such a case….

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

You know

Tripon just might end up right about Green. DeWitt had an awful week, Carroll was solid at SS. If DeWitt has another awful week it may not be out of the realm of possibility that he gets sent to AAA instead of them releasing Green.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

No! DeWitt needs a bit more rope than that.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't agree with optioning DeWitt, but

his wOBA is down to .314. There is no question a platoon of Carroll and Belliard could give you that.

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A bit quick on that trigger, don’t ya think?

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's playing because of his bat

if the bat doesn’t exist how long do you wait? Not very many bad defensive 2nd baseman get to play if they don’t provide a modicum of power, his six doubles in 100 at bats are not cutting it.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow man

jsut a few years ago…. i thought dewitt might be like utley…. he kinda reminded me of him….

by matthewmafa on May 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

you just lobbed a softball for CanuckDodger.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait

Who’s pitching tonight? Ely or Kuroda?

by Julio Nievas on May 17, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

That is what I do

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you do? I’m confused ;)

by kinbote on May 17, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rogue Satellite

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20004772-17.html

Sure hope nobody is counting on watching TV Sunday night . . .

by kinbote on May 17, 2010 11:26 AM PDT reply actions  

TV? Never heard of it! :)

as long as the Lakers aren’t on, I’m cool with taking down Hollywood.

by Xeifrank on May 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

From Olney's Insider Blog
The Dodgers are the hottest team in baseball, and the presumption among rival teams is that L.A. is what it appears to be: a team of extraordinary core talent and extraordinarily limited resources because of the impending divorce at ownership level. If the Astros trade pricey pitcher Roy Oswalt, nobody expects the Dodgers to get him.

My problem with this quote isn’t that it could be right, it is that we have no way of knowing if this is true. There is no way to prove a negative, if they don’t spend, it back ups this premise, if somehow they do spend, it is seen as some type of stunt.

Time will only tell if this proves out but at this point, I don’t expect to see anything big from this front office for a few months.

by bhsportsguy on May 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Oswalt would be a great fit here. I just wish Frank would say “Fuck it, let’s do it” and find the money later.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah…that is his angle and he’s sticking to it, dad gummit. It’s the divorce – no matter what happens.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Oswalt to the Dodgers makes sense in all ways but financially

but I honestly believe they may have limited spending in the off-season for a midseason acquisition, and then offset that the next season by not resigning Padilla and Kuroda.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leach

Dodgers should try to get whatever they can for him. I know his value is at an all-time low, but at this point, he’s a LOOGY with piss poor command that will not get a chance in L.A. anytime soon. He seems like a good dude; maybe another team with bullpen issues could use him.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

leach aint a loogy

he has a plus plus change up and is better vs RHB because of it…

by matthewmafa on May 17, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he was on the Dodgers, that would be his role. On another team, he might be serviceable middle reliever who happens to throw left handed.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

So 2010 Leach > 2010 Sherrill?

by delias man on May 17, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

Leach had his cup of tea, doubtful if he gets many more.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Alright – I’m just going to come out and ask it. Does anybody have a front load washer where leaking is a problem? I am considering buying one.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Just buy a top loader.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had a top loader that flooded, but it had a mechanical problem. I think niether type should leak, but both could flood if they have a mechanical problem. Just read some reviews online and cross your fingers.

by Xeifrank on May 17, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, we love ours, saves lots of water

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love my front loader

A Kenmore. I’ve had it for a couple years and have had no problems

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 17, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You save water

and your clothes last longer. They are head and shoulders better than traditional top loaders.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 17, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt it comes close to my commercial quality SpeedQueen.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd disagree

But that’s why they invented blogs

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on May 17, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the input everyone.

We are between 3 brands. Just have to finish research and pick one.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Two things we learned about SW

He takes vacation time for the draft and he loves his washing machine.

by bhsportsguy on May 17, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to be a VCR snob, too, before they went out of style.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I acquired one for free this weekend and immediately hooked it up to my TV. Over/Under on ever using it? 0.5.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

How else will we watch my VHS tape of the 1988 NBA Finals, Game 7?

In a related question, can I come over Saturday?

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it was made in the 90s or earlier, it’s a P.O.S. :)

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 game series?

so is this the only home ‘series’ we have against the worst team in baseball? if so that sucks. and playing the yankees and tigers in interleague doesnt help either.

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on May 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I get salty just thinking about inter-league play

The results at the end of the year are way too close (for the division and the wildcard) that unbalanced schedules are bullshit.

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phils-Jays make you more salty?

by delias man on May 17, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

The timing also stinks. NOW is the time to test ourselves against the AL?

by kinbote on May 17, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

crap

back to SBNation software workshop for me.

by kinbote on May 17, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

We have four whole days to tuneup for Dontrelle

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the Yankee's weren't coming to town

we wouldn’t have been able to afford Ramon Ortiz and then where would we be?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Better off? lol I really wish Mcdonald and Elbert weren’t sucking gigantic dick.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE'D PROBABLY BE...

able to go to the Stadium to watch them play another AL opponent, rather than watching them play the Yankees on TV because we can’t afford to buy a SEVEN GAME package. Nice reward for leading the league almost every year, in attendance, don’t ya think?

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Oswalt

Hypothetically, lets say that the money was no object to Mccourt and he’s willing to take on the entire salary, what do people believe is a far trade between the dodgers and astros for Oswalt?

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

If LA is taking on all that salary – Ely and Link for Oswalt. Straight up.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

too obvious and tied to JP, but funny…turning JP into Oswalt!

by megaballs on May 17, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

that doesn't seem realistic

or enticing for the astros to do that.

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t imagine the Lastros would take that. They’d want one close to premium guy.

by oshea2002 on May 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's nice to want things

I don’t think the Dodgers part with “premium” though I’m not sure at the moment the Dodgers have “premium” (will get killed by one of the minor league guys around here for that one.)

Maybe a package around Aaron Miller?

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you take the contract, you should be able to package 2-3 guys tops from LAD’s prospect list# 11-30 to put a good face on it for Houston.

by megaballs on May 17, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, true. I think some guys simply aren’t performing well though.

The Astros really have never dealed a star like this, sans maybe the Lidge deal. So it’s tough to tell how they’d want to go about things.

by oshea2002 on May 17, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Link has been disappointing as hell this year. But that’s only because I thought he was a legit relief prospect. He’s probably not even as good as the German.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as I'm concerned

they can have Elbert, McDonald, and Trayvon Robinson. Ned needs to trade that switch hitter now before he pollutes the system with his skills.

The Astro’s need hitting before pitching so maybe more realistic is simply Dee Gordon straight up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who in the farm system is a prospect and exceeding expectations at the moment?

Allen Webster, Sands, and Jansen. Anybody else? Those guys are all in the low minors so I doubt it would get the Astros really interested. Maybe Jansen would.

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't have to be someone exceeding expectations

but I think it has to be bats. They need catching, 1st (Berkman FA), 2nd, SS, 3rd.
We aren’t a very good fit in prospects and money unless they really like Gordon.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on May 17, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

So that’s why you wanted to keep Santana?!

by delias man on May 17, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been wondering the same thing lately. I would think that Withrow, Gordon, E. Martin, and maybe Gould would be off limits. I would also like to keep A. Miller, Jerry Sands, and Webster. Kyle Russell too, but I don’t think he would have tremendous value anyway.

So what could be worked without the first 3 I mentioned being involved, and preferably none of the last 4 I mentioned as well.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My two cents on Ethier

Because it has to heal on its own, it’s basically going to come down to Ethier’s pain threshold — can he swing a bat effectively with the injury? “I think we have to wait,” Dodgers manager Joe Torre said. “It will have to be immobilized. A lot of it will depend on what we find out in the next couple of days, what his comfort level is after we give it a day or so to let some of the soreness get out of there and see what he can do with it.”

Please. Dude is a hot head. Put him on the DL and don’t even entertain the idea that its up to him.

by megaballs on May 17, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Normally I’d agree with you, but if it is an injury that can’t be made worse then I am ok with him trying to tough it out.

by CarolinaDodger on May 17, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Ethier drop his pinky down on the end of the bat when he swings?

by robotmadeofnails on May 17, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

He has it on the bat, and called it a crucial point in his swing.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, that would do it. I think he needs to sit it out.

by robotmadeofnails on May 17, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

personal experience

I play a ton of basketball and I jam my fingers all the time (probably even fractured a couple of them and not even notice). Tape that shit up and get out there. They never heal 100% unless you totally leave it alone for an extended period of time. That was not an option for me and probably isn’t an option for Ethier either.

by npurcell on May 17, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's different

the pressure point of the bat on the pinkie is unlike anything you’d do in basketball.

by LA Taco on May 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if you guys saw this

But the Yankees n Red Sox are playing on ESPN tonight. Should be great. I have been able to watch the Dodgers 2x this year. I am so tired of that shit.

by keithc13 on May 17, 2010 2:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I saw an ad that mlb.tv is on sale.

by delias man on May 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

now if only they would drop blackout restrictions...

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on May 17, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

for some reason, MLB.TV does not recognize my home ip as a blackout .

by robotmadeofnails on May 17, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I shouldve written it differently. I am tired of watching the Yankees play on the cable network that I currently pay for. I am trying not to create another cost, while my wife looks for a new job. Not a knock on you, Delias. Just mad that the next 4 games on ESPN in the coming weeks feature the Yankees.

by keithc13 on May 17, 2010 2:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why can’t MLB up the price a bit, give everyone every game without sweating it, and split the money? It is really hard for them to grasp that I would buy that and still see my 20 or so home games a year live anyway. There is more money for them to make….instead they make MLB TV pretty much a serious fantasy player’s thing….not a fan thing.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN....

if you throw in Red Sox without the Yankees, the Phillies and the Mets, you have almost 100% of their broadcasts covered. With about 12% of the teams.

by dsheridan88 on May 17, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who's watching what tonight?

I am recording the Dodgers and watching the Laker game live.

by LA Taco on May 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Neither…I am umpiring for adult recreations softball…you are all really jealous.

by robotmadeofnails on May 17, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Switching back and forth most likely.

by Ivdown on May 17, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Dodgers game notes

Dodgers are 200-140 (.588) at Dodger Stadium since beginning of 2006, best home record in NL during that time.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Nick Green

You know what I didn’t realize before today? Nick Green’s service time.

Per Cot’s Baseball Contracts, Green entered the season with 4 years, 2 days service time.

Which is less then 5 years service time.

Which means Green doesn’t have the required amount of service time to refuse a minor league assignment, unless something was written into his contract (I don’t know whether or not this is the case).

Green had a pair of out clauses, one he waived on April 4, and one on May 15 which the Dodgers already honored by calling him up before that date. In other words, unless there is something specific in his contract, the Dodgers can send Green to AAA without losing him.

Sometimes the smallest of details slip through the cracks.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Assuming he clears waiver.

by Michael White on May 17, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t have to clear waivers if he’s not DFA’d. I’m talking about keeping him on the 40-man (for now).

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t he still out of options, though?

by JonWeisman on May 17, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good question

You are probably right…looking into it.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only care from a standpoint of roster maneuvering.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cot’s has this for Green last year:

signed by Boston as a free agent 1/13/09 (minor-league contract)
contract purchased by Boston 4/5/09
sent outright to AAA by Boston 11/6/09 (refused assignment)

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on May 17, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Green has been outrighted before and is out of options, he’s gone.

by silverwidow on May 17, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Green was first outrighted by the Yankees in October 2006, so he has the right to refuse any subsequent outrighting.

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Green was outrighted before October 2006…that was his second one (which he refused).

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but I was talking about being able to send him down and keep him on the 40-man, but of course I forgot the crucial factor of options

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

per Jon Weisman:

Martin C
Johnson RF
Ramirez LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
DeWitt 2B
Carroll SS
Ely P

by Eric Stephen on May 17, 2010 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Lineups:

Bourn CF
Keppinger 2B
Berkman 1B
Lee LF
Pence RF
Blum SS
Feliz 3B
Quintero C
Rodriguez P

Martin C
Johnson RF
Manny LF
Kemp CF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
DeWitt 2B
Carroll SS
Ely P

by Alex41592 on May 17, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

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2012 Dodgers Payroll

Italics denote estimates
Pos No Player 2012 Salary
C 17 Ellis $500,000 team control
1B 7 Loney $6,375,000
2B 14 Ellis $2,500,000
3B 5 Uribe $8,000,000
SS 9 Gordon $485,000 team control
LF 21 Rivera $4,000,000
CF 27 Kemp $10,000,000
RF 16 Ethier $10,950,000

IF/OF 6 Hairston $2,250,000
OF 10 Gwynn $850,000
2B/3B 3 Kennedy $800,000
C 18 Treanor $850,000
IF 12 Sellers $485,000 team control

SP 22 Kershaw $6,000,000
SP 58 Billingsley $9,000,000
SP 29 Lilly $12,000,000
SP 37 Capuano $3,000,000
SP 44
Harang $3,000,000

CL 54 Guerra $485,000 team control
RHP 74
Jansen $500,000 team control
RHP 55 Guerrier $4,750,000
RHP Coffey $1,000,000
RHP 66 MacDougal $650,000
LHP 57 Elbert $485,000 team control
RHP 36
Hawksworth $500,000 team control

TJ 41 De La Rosa $485,000 team control



Manny $8,087,432 deferred


Andruw $3,375,000 deferred


Pierre $3,050,000 deferred
Furcal $3,000,000 deferred
Kuroda $2,000,000 deferred
Garland $1,500,000 option buyout
Blake $1,250,000 option buyout

Totals
$112,162,432

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Players on 40-man roster used as roster
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Current 40-man roster count: 40
(not including Belisario)

2012 Non-Roster Invitees

No Player Age*
63 Jose Ascanio rhp
27
61 Alberto Castillo lhp
36
60 Matt Chico lhp
29
35 John Grabow lhp
33
59 Angel Guzman rhp
30
47 Wil Ledezma lhp
31
72 Shane Lindsay rhp
27
62 Fernando Nieve rhp 29
73 Scott Rice lhp 30
70 Will Savage rhp
27
71 Ryan Tucker rhp
25

30 Josh Bard c 34
82 Griff Erickson c 24
81 Matt Wallachc 26
67 Jeff Baisley 3b/1b 29
62 Luis Cruz ss/2b 28
33 Josh Fields 3b 29
64 Lance Zawadzki if 27
56 Cory Sullivan of 32

*Age on June 30, 2012

NRI count: 19

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