Who Leaves to Make Room for Furcal?
by Eric Stephen on May 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT
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When Rafael Furcal gets activated from the disabled list, presumably tomorrow in time for the first game in Chicago, the Dodgers need to make a corresponding move to make room on the active roster. These are the options:
- option Blake DeWitt to Triple A
- designate Nick Green for assignment
- designate Ramon Ortiz for assignment
I covered both games over the weekend, and these three moves were either explicitly (Green, DeWitt) or implicitly ("a pitcher") stated by manager Joe Torre. The disabled list is an option of course, but as of yesterday's postgame there were no pressing injuries that required such attention, so I didn't include it in as an option. If you want this option, pick "other."
Keep in mind that designating for assignment would expose the player to waivers, running the risk of losing them, and in the case of Green and Ortiz they might refuse an assignment to the minors, making them free agents.
There has been much debate in the comments, but I want to get a feel of the readership as a whole. Call it a paranoia check, if you will.
Remember, this is a vote for the move you think the Dodgers will actually make, not the one they should make.
My vote is for Ortiz getting designated for assignment. I think the club will keep Green around for four days, keeping a six-man bench (for the first time since 2008, by the way) and a seven-man bullpen until a fifth starter is needed on Saturday. I think Charlie Haeger will get another shot at the rotation, and Green will be designated for assignment Saturday to make room for Haeger.
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Its deeply tragic
that optioning Blake Dewitt even has to be on this list.
I voted DFA Green
DeWitt isn’t going down, and Colletti will care more about pitching depth than backup-to-the-backup infield depth.
But DL for someone is probably a good choice too. How hard would it be for Ortiz to have a sore arm?
Agree about DeWitt
and I expect DFA Green to win the poll.
by Eric Stephen on May 24, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree with Jon...
I think Nick Green gets DFA’d.
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on May 24, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m the one, so far, who says “option Blake DeWitt.”
I expect the worst.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
I expect the worst.
That way, you will never be disappointed! :)
by Eric Stephen on May 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I expect the worst too and
it drives my wife crazy. She can’t stand it when we are watching a Dodger game on TV because I’m always touting how much we are going to lose by so that when the ninth inning comes and we are ahead, I increase my happy factor by 10 fold.
I suspect that(expecting the worst) is the favored method of thinking and writing. Pessimism is a way of life when dealing with the Dodgers. I especially see the writing of some blogs that way. It gives you a lot of material to fall back on so you always have that “I told you so” moment to fall back on.
Having said that. Please send away Ramon Ortiz on the first buss and send a cab for Green. I’m not sure what mode of transportation Charlie needs to take…
I gotta think Haeger is coming back
There was no reason to DL him unless they thought he could get it fixed.
And if Haeger is coming back then Ortiz could go.
Furcal – Ortiz
Haeger – Green
Haeger will never again pitch significant innings for the Dodgers.
/Timmermann
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on May 24, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric I am an idiot.
I am like a kid with ADHD. Shiny things look!!!!
I didn’t read the post before I voted. I chose DFA Nick Green as what I would do vs what will actually happen. I think the Dodgers will DFA Ortiz and recall Haeger.
I voted DFA Ortiz
However, I wonder if a DL trip for Sherrill could happen…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
I voted "Other"
Since nobody else seems to think Troncoso being sent down is option, at least I’ll look smart if it happens.
trayvon robinson
with a HOmer and a walk in his first 2 at bats…. and dee gordon 2 for 2!
really impressive
its this type of game that make people think he could be a very good, well rounded MLB player…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Other - someone is hitting the DL
DeWitt’s season to date at the plate: .286 / .366 / .403 / .769. That will play at 2B, a position at which he is improving. That is not a guy getting optioned. I don’t think the Dodger brain trust thinks a Carroll/Belliard/Green platoon at 2B is a plan for any significant length of time.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I think it’s funny that you post this in this thread…
…and in a different thread, you post the caveat about the two triples that went off of Hunter Pence’s glove.
Which is it — Blake DeWitt’s TSL looks good at 2B or Blake DeWitt’s TSL is higher than his play actually reflects??
Pick one, we’re at war.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on May 24, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The former
Over the season to date, I’m sure DeWitt was also robbed of hits, so the luck balances out. My point in the other thread was how much skew those two plays cause in a snapshot of one week.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I’m a little worried about the beer situation here. If we drink this case of beer, and the other case, we’ve only got two cases left!
Nick Green is the case of The Beast on the bottom of the pile.
Does that make Rafael Furcal Dos Equis?
He isn’t always available to play, but when he is, I prefer Rafael Furcal.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on May 24, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Fantastic
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
El Lay Dave for the win…
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on May 24, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd go with DFA Green
Off topic but I was taking a look at Adrian Beltre’s career stats and one number stood out, 1700+ games played at 3B. If he can play 500 or so more games, he will move into the top 5 all time. Doubtful though not impossible to reach Brooks Robinson’s 2800+ game record but more likely Beltre will finish his career as the leader for players who have played in the last 30 years.
I don't know Green's stats
But I have seen ortiz pitch. I would like to see ortiz go. If he gets claimed, that’s ok. However unlikely, but ok. Blake has been pretty solid at second. But if management value green and ortiz more than I do, Blake will go to the topes for a while.
by Skunkburner on May 24, 2010 6:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
DFA Ortiz then Green...
He sucks everytime when he goes on the mound and we’d like to keep a 6*man bench with more versality…
Take another shot for Haeger so DFA Green…
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
New Idea
How about Ortiz, Green and Troncoso for Oswalt? Throw in Haeger for a bounty to try to make it a done deal. That way we create three roster spots for someones who might help us win a few more ball games and keep the hot streak alive
Nah, Houstorn couldn’t be that stupid but fantasy is what most of the responses I have read so far truly represent
DFA Green
I have a hard time thinking Haeger starts in Colorado. Not to mention his last start against them he didn’t record an out and that was without the thin air.
Kaz Matsui
released by the Astros has been signed by the Rockies to a minor-league deal. He’ll report to AAA.
Another HR for Russell with IE
It’s time to promote him to AA…
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
The time to promote him to AA was April 2009
by Tripon on May 24, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+10000000
Now the AA’s outfield has locked by Van Slyke, Robinson, Giles, and Lambo…
It’s a bullshit by the entire organization… Why Giles doesn’t play with ABQ?? (Ok, their outfield is very deep with Hoffmann, Gibbons, Resterovich, Redmann)
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
U sure of that?
He’s shown decent speed this year with 8SB to 1CS. And reports say he’s athletic enough for the OF. You can probably stick him in LF and not worry he’s going to lose the game for you.
Players only get larger, (and wider) as they progress though the years. Sands is already 6’3", 220 lbs. Unless you know for sure he’s going to keep his current weight, he’s about his limit so far to still be able to play OF.
Even Adam Dunn was a shortstop at one point in time, and he was drafted around 220, and he’s currently more like 280. Baseball players just get big.
Dunn
is 6’6 and was never a shortstop in professional ball. Sure players get bigger as they get older but Sands is what? 22, almost 23? He’s a full grown boy. As long as he stays in shape he’s not going to balloon. Besides, He’s played all 3 outfield spots and 1b and scouts say he can stick in the OF.
Russell doesn't care about his award this week...
2 HR tonight for him…
So Russell & Sands have combined:
23 2B, 4 3B, 27 HR, 77 RBI, 229 TB, 46 BB, 86 K, 13 SB, 5 CS and .361/.441/.700
Wow… A new tag team will come…
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
yea, Loney is counting down his days...
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's too early to think about Sands/Russell will make the majors...
But let me dream…
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
you?
What about me!?!?! haha
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Players only get larger, (and wider) as they progress though the years.
Tony Gwynn sings, “Don’t you forget about me…”
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on May 24, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine an outfield with...
LF Ethier
CF Kemp
RF Russell or Sands
They could combined for 110 2B, 15 3B, 90 HR, 300 RBI, 200 BB, 60 SB and .320 AVG
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
No platoon between both
Ok so with a combo of Ethier/Kemp/Russell on the OF and Sands at 1B…
150 2B, 20 3B, 120 HR, 400 RBI, 275 BB, 75 SB and .325 AVG
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
DFA
Green
Ortiz
Haeger
In that order
If Mongo can not perform, ship him out at the AS break.
Bring up the pitchers within the organization, if they win great, if not, they will not lose any worse than Ortiz and Haeger.
Jus’ say’in
by 68elcamino427 on May 24, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
dewitt
wow, didn’t realize it but the kid (yes, i can say kid even though he’s older than me) currently has a 109 OPS+. You can’t option that down. Also from my viewpoint, his defense has gotten more consistent too.
Not hate
The guy is just not a good MLB pitcher.
Allow him to learn his craft with a lower division club
by 68elcamino427 on May 24, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyway, a good rehab start for him
5 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 5 K
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
Tampa Bay
Has an embarrassment of pitching riches. Not only is their entire rotation rock solid, but they’ve got Jeremy Hellickson throwing 8 inning, 1 hit masterpieces in AAA.
Unbelievable. They are far and away the WS favorites.
BUT THEY DONT HAVE A VETERAN ACE!
They wont make it out of the 1st round
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Lindblom
Is officially a joke. I’m sorry for ever supporting him.
5.1 IP, ******12 hits*********, 7 ER
He's not a bust yet but he really should be a reliever
I understand that starters are more valuable and the Dodgers wanted to stretch him there first but it seems he’s just a lot better in short bursts. As a 1 to 2 inning guy I think he still has the potential to be very good.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So is Lindblom complete crap, or is the Topes defense that bad because 14 hits per nine but only one home run per nine just doesn’t make sense.
by regfairfield on May 24, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
He is still a sinkerballer
Its probably a combination of him not being a great Ks guy, and the defense is letting these GBs go through… 14 hits/9 but only 1 HR/9 shows he isnt getting killed, it is unluckiness…
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, Lindblom’s BABIP after tonight is going to be ~.440. He’s known to leave stuff in the zone, but there’s no way he’s so bad that he would be anywhere near that.
by regfairfield on May 24, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I promise he didnt suddenly become THIS bad
especially with that BABIP against, he is getting really unlucky… let it even out
by lakersdodgersyankees4life on May 24, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
because future major league pitchers
don’t usually get their ass handed to them time after time in AAA.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on May 25, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Like I said earlier,
Not sure about greens stats, but is he that good that that he would decline assingment? If that’s the case, then why send him down?
by Skunkburner on May 24, 2010 9:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
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