World Cup Open Thread
Just saw that in the 71st minute, South Africa holds a 1-0 lead over Mexico. Maybe the power of being the host country will lead South Africa out of pool play after all....
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As a Uruguay fan, for me
From everything I heard, it was any amazing match. Now to hunker down to work so I can watch Uruguay/France with my sons tonight.
Oh, as a Uruguay fan, you are definitely be pleased...
by Michael White on Jun 11, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Now all I have to do
Is hope they avoid being bad Uruguay for a couple of games and we’ll be okay.
I thought you wanted to avoid spoilers?
by Michael White on Jun 11, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Final South Africa 1 Mexico 1
Really bad result for Mexico. Making my prediction of Uruguay and France advancing look good.
Disappointed
Mexico looked flat, but I’m glad Marquez put in that goal. I’ll take a tie… Hoping the France-Uruguay team is a 1-0 loss by either.
I didn't watch the game
Mexico seemed to score rather quickly after going down 1-0. What happened?
by Michael White on Jun 11, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Mexico was very aggressive offensively in the first half, but couldn’t connect. S. Africa caught a break when the refs called offsides. Marquez scored for Mexico wide open on the ’79 minute. S. Africa failed on a breakaway, and the game ended tied.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 11, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Mex had a goal taken away on the worst offsides call ever early. There may have been a handball when ball came over the top that the announcers have not mentioned
SA scored
Mex scored about 15 minutes later
SA hit the post from close range at 88 min
game over
I saw some people whining about a non-call that would have gone in RSA’s favor.
by Michael White on Jun 11, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Penarol will be pleased that I'll be rooting for Uruguay vs France Today
No one get headbutted por favor!
I agree delias, it was a bizarre offsides call. There was a SA player standing on the goal line behind the Mexico player, how can it be offsides? Still, a tie was about right for that one. Mexico dominated 1st half (from what I saw, missed part of it while waking up), SA 2nd half, and they nearly scored at the very end.
Host countries almost also win or tie their first game, even if they’re an underdog (like today, or at least normally they would have been), with all the momentum, excitement, crowd support…
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i didn't see the play
but if memory serves, the rule is that the offense can’t pass a ball to a defensive player if they player is behind 10 other players. So…. if goalie is at top of penalty box and defender is on goal line, if there is a player between the two who receives a pass, it is still off side.
by Michael White on Jun 11, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yah that's righto
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No
That’s wrong. The rule is:
“A player is in an offside position if he is in his opponents’ half of the field and is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the next to last opponent.”
Gotta have 2 people behind you, usually the Keeper is an afterthought in this rule, good application of the law by the Assistant. If you are interested Offsides is Law 11 in the FIFA rulebook. Outlined here:
You can watch games live on ESPN3 I believe...
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Peñarol
I´ll be rooting for you. After all, I love your “gana” and Lugano is still one of my favorites players. My prediction is 1-0, with Forlán scoring the winner.
France and Uruguay tied 0-0 at 32 minute mark
Looks like France is dominating the play, with 7 shots to Uruguay’s 2.
Starting to heat up a little now, seems like a bit of er, flaccid, first part of the game
I predict someone scores a goal with about 5-7 mins left.
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They did indeed! Their defense was terrific
even if it got a bit chippy. Game was fairly dull until Henri came in.
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Goukoff's a ___off :-)
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Not a big Sideshow Bob or Sideshow Mel fan either?
by Eric Stephen on Jun 13, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude is trash
I get that he is an American and a fan, but it takes away his credibility when he roots so hard for the USA. He is a tool
Thank You sir
Nothing like getting home after 15 hours in the car with the in laws…
BTW I just heard Martin Tyler say that the North Korean fans at the stadium weren’t actual fans of North Korea. They are actors from China dressed to play the part of the fans. That is funny.
Germany will win in 2014
they may be a bit young, and I think the teams that can run them off the ball will also be able to exploit a defense that looked shaky at times against the socceroos, but with 4 years of maturity, look out for these guys. Most impressive side so far albeit against a team playing poorly in their run-up.
@ k3vo
I thought the same, Ozil, Schweini, Lahm, Muller and Khedira are all young but I´m confident. 2014 will be ours!
If we don´t win it at home, I don´t know what will happen but it´ll be a tragedy like 1950.
by ricardodgers on Jun 13, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Also
I love the British.
Mini recap of day 4...
Game 1: Algeria and Slovenia played so bad today…
Maybe the ugliest match of this WC…
How Slovenia and Algeria were able to qualify by playing so badly??
Another big error by the Algerian’s goalkeeper (maybe Manny would catch that ball!!!!!) and a stupid red card by Ghezzal…
Game 2: An intense match at the physical level, the Serbs have shown despite a plethora of technical players (Stankovic, Krasic, Kuzmanovic …)
Another stupid red card by Kuzmanovic and a penalty scored by Gyan…
Ghana dominated the debate thanks to a greater physical presence in Serbian…
Game 3: Probably the best match of this first round
Germany was impressed me thnaks to his outstanding offense… With their young talent led by Ozil, Muller, Neuer, Lahm, Badstuber, Gomez, Marin, etc… they could win this year… My only issue is the central back because Australia is not strong as Ghana or Serbia… But Germany is the only favorite who played as their level…
What I liked about the Germans is their variety in their attacks, the danger can come from anywhere and even Khedira is able to bring it, we see the whole mentality of the game Joachim Low for two years, I hope that his work will be recognized by all …
It should be that France and Raymond Domenech is inspired because it is not a style of play that wins chilly face Mexican …
Then I sends a message to Mr. Domenech: Please, do dream of all France, make out that the Blues play like the Germans or the Netherlands or Spain or even the U.S. …
Tomorrow, it’s Group E with my favorite team: The Netherlands…
I’ll predict a 4-0 win against Denmark
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Are Denmark that bad?
I haven’t followed them at all lately, I was actually hoping that it would be a good match. Germany are really only impressive side yet, the technical skill and strength they showed at positions was really amazing. Argentina looked fairly good, but has some holes in their lineup that can hurt them down the road, no other side is worth mention yet. It’s a shame that so many of the stronger teams are going to be playing during the week while I’m at work.
My issue was with the Netherlands' defense allowing 0 goals
I was thinking a 3-2 game before it started.
Isn't Slovenia's style sloppy?
From what I’ve read, they just load up on D and then try to steal a goal or two. They are perfectly content to play for a draw. That style is probably how they advanced out of Europe.
That’s why it was so huge for the U.S to tie the UK because I could see another sloppy match with Slovenia which ends in a draw.
by Michael White on Jun 14, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying Denmark is a bad team...
But with the plethora of good Netherlands offensive players (Kuyt, Robben, Sniejder, Van der Vaart, Van Persie, Huntelaar, Elia…), they can score a lot of goals…
And Demnark has one or two good young players like Bentdner (Striker), Kjaer (Central Back), Poulsen ans Sorensen (GK)…
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Robben is out for the first game.
I do agree with you that the Dutch should win easily. I’m not sure that they have put themselves in the conversation as cup favorites just yet, the question marks on defense are pretty big. The will be able to outpossess opponents in the group stage with a stacked midfield and make it into the knockout round easily. from there anything can happen, but i don’t have them going farther than the quarters. I hope I’m wrong though, I’ve always liked the Dutch =)
I do agree about the defense...
It was always been a issue for them since the 80’s when they have one of the best central back by the name of Ronald Koeman…
But Van Marjwik has been able to keep the defense alive…
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North Korean Training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICJO1so8Tdw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38kCyPG7XM4
Surreal! If we lose to them, we should packs our bags and go home. lol
105th ranked team in the world
and they are put in the group of death. I feel for them having to play #1 and #3. Welcome to the world stage guys, enjoy your stay.
Hmmm.
Interesting first half, Paraguay is a mystery to me they play out of their minds in qualifying against teams like Brazil and Argentina and lose to Bolivia and Colombia. Great goal off a set piece puts them in the driver’s seat against an Italian side I’m not so sure is built to come back.
K3vo
Playing at home makes a lot of difference in the south american qualifying. It´s really tough to play in Bolivia, for example, because of the altitude. But Paraguay has a good team, the best since 1998. The difference now is that, while they don´t have Gamarra, they have plenty offense.
But Italy is looking good. Cannavaro failed in the goal, but other than that is playing like in 2006 and if Montolivo and Marchisio step up, the italian will win it.
Points taken, I think what i was getting at is that Paraguay is the type of side that on any given day can force favorable decisions out of the top teams in the world, but you also get the feeling that they could just as easily fall out of the tournament after the group stage.
As for Italy, i get the feeling that they lack a serious creative presence, their strategy has been to fire the ball into the box and hope for a favorable outcome. That said, their defense in the first 20 minutes or so of the match was very impressive. Hopefully the Buffon injury isn’t very serious, they could be a dangerous team to face once they advance out of a pretty weak group.
I cant believe its still 0-0 for Brazil and N. Korea in the 36th minute
I mean i know its soccer and scoring doesn’t happen but it’s #1 vs. #108
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and now Brazil is clicking now 2-0 as expected
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by BoulderDodger on Jun 15, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
under Dunga the Brazilian side has adopted a more structured game that centers around tough defense. They no longer play the free-flowing style that coned the term ‘beautiful game’. That said, they dominated the game and should have had more to show for it than a 2-1 result. Teams having a real problem finding the net. Give DPRK a little credit though, maybe they won’t be the 3-point vending machine everyone thought they would be. Hopefully put a little doubt in the Portugese and the Ivorians.
I was shocked about the Brazil but with Dunga they don’t play as before… No more Ronaldinho, no more Adriano, no more Pato…
Brazil struggled tonight against a very tough team who played better than Cameroon, Algeria, Slovenia, France, Uruguay, Greece…
Pay attention to the North Korea…
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I'm all about cheering for the underdog
except when it’s Team Kim Jong Il. That being said I was really impressed with DPRK as well, they played tough the whole game and made it frustrating for Brazil. I don’t ever like saying this because you really never know how a team approaches another team, but I really think Brazil thought nothing of DPRK and severely underestimated them. 5 men in the box on attack in the 90th minute with a 2-1 lead? that seemed a little ridiculous to me.
i agree, there is definitely a little less samba with this team.
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by BoulderDodger on Jun 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Spain never fail disappoint. They always choke. But I´ve gotta recognize that Hitzfeld is a great coach.
It's incredible
i’m following along on gamecast and Spain appears to be dominating this game but is trailing 1-0.
Time of Possession: Spain 73%, Switzerland 27%
Shots: Spain 15, Switzerland 4
Score at 65 minutes. Switzerland 1, Spain 0
by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Spain dominated but the swiss defend well. They´re more than 8 hours without giving up a goal in World Cup.
That match reminded Barcelona vs Internazionale. The spanish side has the ball possession but coludn´t penetrate the defence.
Chile vs Spain will be a great match!
I caught some of the Chile game this morning at the gym. From what I saw, Chile was effortlessly dictating the flow of the game.
by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn´t see the game, cause I have a test today and I was studying. But I saw some highlights and Chile was the clearly the better side.
Chile vs Spain will be interesting to see what “El Loco” Bielsa is gonna do, because he knows the spanish are going to attack, on the other hand his team´s main strength is the offense. It´ll be really entertaining, I´m expecting lots of goals.
PS: I´m kinda afraid that we may face “La Furia” on the 16th round.
The games today have been real corkers. Middle one was terrific
Spain seemed to have many chances but couldn’t put it in, and Swiss defense was very solid when it had to be. They deserved to win. Spain will still win their next two games, I predict, but they better wake up.
Game on right now is off to an exciting start as well.
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It took a deflection but it was a great finish anyway. and I agree Forlán is a great player. Never understood why Fergie let him go. He was linked with Olympique Marseille earlier this month, by the way. But if Atlético sells Kun, I think they´ll ilkely keep Forlán. Suárez is really good too, he scored tons of goals for Akax this season.
The guy that is disappointing is Pienaar. Expected more from him.
Ouch
Well, can’t accuse refs of bias for the host country. Hate to be a backup keeper coming in and having to do penalty shot straight away.
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My Big, Fat Greek Derek Fisher?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 17, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the key to Greece playing a more interesting match is to be up a man
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They came alive
when the dude from Nigeria got sent off. Stupid penalty to take. Killed his teams chances of winning.
?
They beat the shit out of Nigeria. Nigeria had to run with 10 men for more than an hour. How did they cheat. They took more than 2x the shots than Nigeria did.
The acting by the Greek player is what drew the red card. I know flopping is tolerated but no Nigeria should have been down to 10 men if the ref acted sensibly.
I get that
but if the Nigerian didn’t kick the Greek player while he was out of bounds, nothing happens and the referee doesn’t have to make a decision. Players do this constantly in soccer, flopping I mean. It is part of the game.
Not really
The intent was there which is enough to warrant the red card (or so I’ve been reading)
by Michael White on Jun 17, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
The guy was standing out of bounds with the ball in his hand. The Nigerian
kick him in the thigh. Not necessarily hard, but he did kick him. Str8 red. Good call by the referee. And you are absolutely right, the intent was there.
France lineup
Lloris – Sagna, Gallas, Abidal, Evra – Diaby, Toulalan – Govou, Ribery, Malouda – Anelka
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I really like Dos Santos
Good shot after fighting off his marker.
I love living in a Mexican neighborhood
got some good cheers for that goal
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
LOVE IT
Pops probably hit a 40-inch vertical right now with arms in the air
by Julio Nievas on Jun 17, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Au revoir, France!
¡¡¡Viva El Tricolores!!!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 17, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
I can't believe it...
But you’re right…
I’m ashamed to be French!!!!
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Seriously...
Seriously, this is the most pathetic game I’ve ever seen since the Euro 2008 … We got dominated from start to finish by a great Mexican team that we were superior to them …
Frankly, if France is eliminated what will be the result of four years of incompetence … First, after the Euro 2008 the Federation Francaise de Football has kept Domenech so pitifully that got eliminated by the Italians … And all of France remembers this sentence right after the match: “Stella, will you marry me ?”… You do not think he’s laughing at the mouth of french … Imagine Kemp Torre or saying the same thing after a defeat in the World Series, how you would react?
So after this terrible Euro 2008, the Blues have struggled to qualify for the World Cup, most of the game proposed by them is more than suspect … Domenech has never been able to unite his players around him, more internal problems have increased with the case of the hand of Henry, the case Zahia / Ribery Gourcuff and the case does not deserve anything lynching from his teammates …
This World Cup 2010 has reinforced all the evils that this rotten team … A catastrophic level of play, players who do not fight on the field, a coach who made dubious choices and more I did not feel concerned by this defeat, he was impassive tonight … Too many players overpaid for doing nothing …
So I say, I repeat, I am ashamed to be french, that’s the image they give us around the world, posing as clowns, the world laughs at us …
I hope that after this World Cup disaster, significant changes will be made, including the coach because France is tired of a clown who is more talented than the theater on a bench … Then, at the French Football Federation, which must absolutely get rid of the President who has kept Domenech … In the end, it would make a great revolution in French soccer…
Word of supporting Les Bleus…
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I think many people happened to be rooting against the French this year based on the Henry handball which screwed the Irish out of an appearance in the World Cup.
Better luck next time, Bleus…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 17, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree but not only the handball by Henry...
But 4 years of incompetence, that’s enough!!!!!!
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It's 2010
The Euro championships was only 2 years ago.
The French side was quite competent 4 years ago in the WC so I dont follow the 4 years of incompetence comment.
by Michael White on Jun 17, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
After the WC 2006...
But what most people do not realize is that the Blues came in the final thanks to the combined return of Zidane, Makelele and Thuram because before the 2006 World Cup, they have been very difficult at the beginning of qualifying.
Therefore Domenech asked Zidane back for France to help them qualify for the 2006 World Cup, Zidane accepted that request provided that Thuram and Makelele return also Domenech also have left them the keys to finding a tactical scheme Zidane that would suit …
Riding the wave of these returns, France is simply once more the team that scared the world in 2006 …
After the final Zidane, Thuram, Makelele and Barthez took their international retirement to make room for the next generation should be taken by Benzema, Ribéry, Nasri … and assisted by the experienced Gallas and Henry …
The qualifcations for Euro 2008 will go smoothly, so all the french begin to believe in the miracle of 2006 unless Quil lack Zidane, Thuram and Makelele in the role of team leader …
Normally Henry and Gallas had to play that role here except that they have never been able to appropriate …
The Euro 2008 also brings up tensions internally between Ribéry, Benzema and Nasri, leaden hue which the group atmosphere and in the same time the level of the game that was more than 2006 …
Therefore, the french played 1 round as a soul in torment, a game indigestible, a team disunited, weak mentally … And ultimately, a disastrous game against the Italians which we refer to the house …
The rest, you know as I explained in my previous posts …
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Well, you deffinately should not be ashamed for all of the great World Cup content you have provided for us at TBLA. You are doing such an awesome job, Jojo, and I appreciate it very much.
//handshake
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
All that talent.
I can’t remember a serious opportunity for the French in these two games. Hey possess well, but can’t seem to find each other in the attacking 3rd.
You're right...
Most of them do not know what to do with the ball, it was like they were lost on the ground … Anelka played midfield in place of striker Govou was done physically, he played almost right back instead of right midfield …
Only Malouda seemed threatening, it makes little …
I think there is a generational problem in this team … I hope the new coach will be able to straighten all this …
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I think the point of frustration for me was the seven or eight different times a winger broke down the defence and got into a position to cross, only to find 1 teammate in the box, with 3 or so others standing around the 18. Either center it to those at the top of the box, or crash the area, super disjointed play and no opportunities created.
Sorry jojo! Yeah, you basically nailed everything that went wrong with the French
side these past 2 years. The coach was truly horrible and everyone knows it. Sports Illustrated rightly said he looks like Inspector Clouseau but was even more clueless managing them. They have some genuine talent on that team, which is what makes it more a shame that they coudn’t find chemistry or play all the right players. Sometimes teams just don’t gel but it doesn’t help when leadership is incompetent. We all know France can play great football so hopefully with the mgr retiring maybe they’ll get their act together.
In a way maybe they needed to be embarrassed like this to realize how much they need to change the culture. Get ’em next time!
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Well I hope Mexico
Wins against Uruguay
by Julio Nievas on Jun 17, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
It's going to be tough
With Uruguay most likely playing 11 men behind the ball, I doubt that they have more than one player in the final third of the field all game. A tie will clinch them first place in the group. This should be Uruguay’s ugliest game since the 1990 World Cup.
HUGE game for the US tomorrow. I truly hope they don't do another el foldo after a strong game
This time I think will be different, Landon Donovan’s quotes about that make me feel less worried, and they are talented but still, I will worry about it until they win.
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I think it will be a tough matchup actually. USA needs a win, Slovenia doesn’t really. Slovenia hasn’t shown all that much but they are pretty good. It will be a battle.
Why would USA need a win more than Slovenia?
USA got the draw from the top seeded team (England) while Slovenia did it against the weakest team— the team the US still has to play.
A draw favors US’s chances of advancing, not Slovenia.
by Michael White on Jun 17, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll predict a 2-0 for USA...
Slovenia and Algeria didn’t show anything…
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I have it 2-1 USA
still not sold on the back 4 for the US. I think we get the 3 points on an early goal from Dempsey and a goal before the half from LD.
JemeleHill: The Slovenian team must all take drama classes, because every time they are touched, they act as if they were beaten with a sledgehammer
FINALLY
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People are screaming it should have been a red. What was the play?
by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Aaltidore was running slightly diagonally on a break for goal
and they tackled him again
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAL BRADLEY
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wtf goal called back
BULLSHIT CALL. Completely wrong.
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Oh well...
I’m pretty sure the US will win against Algeria and that leaves Slovenia facing the Brits. We’ll advance
Yeah
But what a comeback by us, that was just epic.
by Julio Nievas on Jun 18, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
everyone in my office was screaming at that third
“goal” and then it gets called back. total bullshit.
Hey Guys!!!!!
I watched the game from the USA with great passion, tension … And what a game the Americans, I was amazed by their mental power, they never even dropped to 2-0 while the Slovenians dominated the game …
The choice proved pay Bradley in the second half … We found a good kick on Donovan stopped and I especially loved the entry Edu who stabilized the midfield … And what about that Altidore harassed Slovenian defense from start to end by his stall and his incessant gambling hub …
Unfortunately while Malian referee messed because the third goal was absolutely valid, I did not understand his decision, especially since it was not the first time he had a questionable decision against the U.S. .. .
But I have one thing to say, you can be proud of a team that fights to the end, which is never abdicates some circumstances, we really feel that Americans move up in years years and that are no longer tenure as in the past …
Some team should draw inspiration from France because they have lost all sense of fighting spirit, sacrifice, they play only for themselves, not even for their country …
At least I tell myself that Americans can be proud to have a team dedicated body and soul to them …
Congratulations and let me dream again, I hope you beat the Algerian and you will go to the 2nd round because you deserve it, not like the team of France …
By JoJo…
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Great wrap up Jo-Jo, thanks!
It was an amazing game and comeback. US would not have needed to come back or that disallowed goal if their D was better in the first half, of course. But they were absolutely jobbed. See my comment below,t oo.
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Definitely
I like Jay DeMerit’s hustle and determination but he gets beat too often for my taste. I liked the sub at halftime, replacing Torres with Feilhaber who was very solid and unlike Torres actually dropped back to help on D, too.
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Gooch is normally pretty solid and made some great plays vs England but
he’s coming back from injury and there were worries he wouldn’t be game fit in time for Cup. Today he looked not game fit, he was not as solid as he can be (though he was better in 2nd half). Both Edu and Feilhaber are more versatile and can play back if needed so I like having at least one of them in the next game.
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I would
really like to see Buddle put in as he and Donovan have great chemsitry together. I liked how we switched our tactics on the fly to attack and go back on defense. Great work.
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I reeeeeallly
hope so. Findley has been kind of meh when he is in.
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Ahhh yeah
thats right, totally spaced on that.
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Which was such a garbage yellow, too
it hit his cheek, not his hand! Gahhh… that ref…
Anyway yeah though, I agree, Buddle would be nice with Donovan and Altidore.
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We won against Britian 1-1
Now we tied Slovenia 3-2. Weird cup for us.
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tiebreaker question
If US, Britain, and Slovakia all end up tying each other and beating Algeria, who goes to the next round?
Goal differential is the tiebreaker.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
basically whoever beats up Algeria the most.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
goal differential
in the Algeria wins. The 2 teams that beat them by the most would move on if they all had identical records.
England is going to kill Algeria and beat Slovenia, IMO
We need to beat the shit out of Algeria and we will be cool
Assuming England wins today
the US needs to beat Algeria next game and England needs to beat Slovenia to keep it simple and the US is in like that. If England ties Slovenia, then that gives Slovenia 5 points, US would have 5 with a win as well as would England and then it would indeed come down to goal differential and a need to beat up on Algeria.
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I found the full rules...
The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:
a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.
If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
by CarolinaDodger on Jun 18, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know if they ever made it to rule G? Can you imagine if Britain were knocked out that way? I bet there would be riots.
by CarolinaDodger on Jun 18, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
US just has to beat Algeria now
As far as the tie breaker, now that England has only tied Algeria with 0-0 score, we are tied with England on b) but have a 2 goal lead on them in c). I like our chances…though I’d like them better if we could just get a fair shake from the refs…
by Capt Obvious on Jun 18, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
From BBC Radio 5 live's David Moyes on that disallowed goal
“I’ve just seen that disallowed goal for the US again – and not only was there no foul by a US player, there are probably two penalty-kick offences being committed by the Slovenian defenders. Shocking decision.”
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Could have been an amazing comeback. /sigh
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
As it should be!
I wanted to impersonate that scene in Animal House when all the Delta guys mutter “blow job {cough} blow job” ’cause they were jobbed!
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USA hab been stolen by the referee...
Shame on you mister Coulibaly…
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Yes...
Now they must beat Algeria… And England will win against Slovenia…
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
I wouldnt
count out Slovenia quite yet and I yet to be impressed by England (even though I usually support them). This next match up will def tell us what to think of England
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
Exactly. Slovenia could give England fits too
Hell, it could be the US and SLovenia advancing for all we know! But first things first, depends on what happens today, and then US knows what it has to do. It still controls things a bit but will need a little help.
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My god
what a terrible call!!!
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
So terrible!!!
And if Edu didn’t score, a penalty will there because 2 amercains were sacked by the slovenian…
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Agreed
The Slovenians were turning it into a rugby match but yet we get the foul called against US?? The ref was suspect the whole game!
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
2 US players were being strangled on that play. If anything they could call a foul
on them on that play if they hadn’t scored. The Ref was utterly out of his mind with either bias or blindness.
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Yeah
apparently you can, and have it called in your favor. Who knew?
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
Honestly that play will be replayed so often everyone in the world will be stunned
but he deserves to be called out for that. How can you call a Foul on the US. At the worst, and I;‘ve seen this, they just ignore the blatant fouls by the defenders and let them play, which in that case I would’ve been fine with. but to take away the goal, I am still so angry…
again it might not have been as important if their frickin’ D wasn’t so poor in early going… but still.
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agreed
USA was so laid back and nonchalant to start the game. They need to be in attack mode nonstop as those attackers are their greatest strength.
Yeah
it will be looked at from every angle and be noted as robbery but it just sucks where points are so key. They do need to jump on the attach from the get go. Is it just me but does it seem we are always looking for a cross or pass when we are in the box when we have some key shots we can take?
I mean, looking at how GK’s have been playing isnt it worth taking the shot on the off chance we get a good rebound or bobble? I dont know, we seem tenative in our shots.
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
+100000
This referee was the referee in the final of African Nations Cup but he was so bad today…
I hope its mistake will not eiliminted the U.S.
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sorry
that should say attack not attach
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
Everyone gets robbed in the WC
at some point, so WC afficianados won’t be that sympathetic to us, but to casual US viewers who aren’t so up on WC history will look at this game and think the sport is rigged. And that is not what FIFA should want, yet that is exactly what is going to happen.
by Capt Obvious on Jun 18, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't offsides.
But the official match report rules that the goal was disallowed because of a foul committed by Edu.
A phantom foul, essentially. And I am still fucking livid.
yep, watched the video on youtube several times looking specifically at Edu, he runs by his man, very little contact, certainly not more than any of the Slovenian defenders were initiating. Just horrid. Turns an awesome comeback draw into a disappointing stolen 2 points.
And now we're in a tough spot. All that matters is an Algeria win.
Complete and total domination. I’m talking 3-4 goals here. The rest is out of our hands.
Yep,
just complete garbage. Ref needs to canned for just a horrible horrible call.
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richardfarley: Will USA Advance To World Cup Knockout Round? Breaking Down The (Complicated) Scenarios: http://sbnation.com/e/1288869
Calamity James
Giving Algeria the best chance for a favorable result here.
I for one
would be ecstatic at the US and Slovenia going through. Hold on Algeria!!
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
How does the math on that work?
We would want Slovenia to beat England of course, and the US beat Algeria?
by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
With this result
The US advances with a win over Algeria.
Here are the points and standings now:
Slovenia 4
USA 2 (3 goals)
England 2 (1 goal)
Algeria 1
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jun 18, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If Slovenia beats England
the US could field a team of goats and advance
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jun 18, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets beat Algeria. Take care of business ourselves.
Also, the last 2 group matches are played simultaneously ever since Saudi Arabia got jobbed back in the day by teams already knowing exactly what they needed to advance.
Just win. pleeease
If we beat algeria are we a lock yet?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Slovenia draws England
US beats Algeria by more than 1
England goes home, US tops group on goal differential.
What are the prospects for Algeria advancing?
Obviously, they have to beat the US. Four points.
If Slovenia then beats England, Algeria is in.
If they draw, Algeria is in.
If England beats Slovenia… they very well might be in.
Good lord, it really could happen that Slovenia and Algeria both advance.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 18, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
For US to advance...
US advances if they beat Algeria.
If they tie Algeria — it depends what happens in England-Slovenia.
If Slovenia beats England, US advances.
If England and Slovenia draw, US very likely advances, unless it’s 3-3 or something ridiculous.
If England beats Slovenia, US goes home.
Do I have that right?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 18, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It seems like you are right
jay_jaffe RT @fivethirtyeight: Should the 0-0 result hold, #USA will have ~70% chance of advancing, #SVN about 65%, and #ENG only about 55%.
by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It's never sure until it's sure
but I like the US chances right now. A win against Algeria would be so huge… assuming Germany actually wins their group, which is now in doubt.
I agree that it was a bad call
But trying to rationalize/figure out what the ref was thinking…
1) Most of the hugs by the Slovenians, the Americans are either pushing (making it fouls both ways) or not really trying (and therefore not being obsructed).
2) Bradley was in an ~offside position (though this isn’t what was called), I guess negating his hug.
3) In this video, you can see the ref’s angle, with a bit of contact between Edu and the Slovenian at about 0:46-47, apparently making the Slovenian slow up and not able to reach the ball.
Sorry I missed it
heard from more than one person that it was one of the more entertaining matches so far.
Mini-recap 06/19
Netherlands vs Japan
Robben was out of the lineup again due to his injury, it was very similar as the 1st match they did… They struggled to find Van Persie and Kuyt… Sometimes, Sneijder took the ball on ths own side as a defensive midfielder… Van Der Vaart is not good as the left midfielder… But the defense has been good and the subs are really good…
A good goal by Sneijder and yhe japanese GK helped him…
Japan surprised me again thanks to his great discipline and a great tactic by their coach… Honda is a really good and underrated player… I hope they will advance to the 2nd round… But their GK is the weakest link of the team…
Ghana vs Australia
A very interesting match because Australia was needed a win to stay alive on this pool and Ghana was needed a win to advance in the 2nd round…
The 1st half was dominated by the Socceros and the goal froml Holman was the result of that… But a decision would change everything in this match, Ayew made a cross to Jonathan and he shoots for the goal but the injured Kewell stopped the ball with his arm… So the referee made the right decision with the penalty but the red car was not fair for Kewell… Consenquently Gyan scored his 2nd penalty in 2 matches…
yet it is the Australians who are the most menacing front of the goal of Kingson, Kennedy and his teammates have several opportunities in the second half … Ghanaians have lost their composure by accumulating errors of concentration that could have cost them dear as they played on the powerplay for 60 minutes … How to explain this stress has seized them?? Difficult to say because they seemed to finish the first half on a very good basis but the coaching of the Veerbeck has surely interfere … But the Ghanaians are in favor of waivers for the 2nd round qualification
Cameroon vs Denmark
Colony Capital sucks... Paris est magique...
Mini-recap 06/19 Cameroon vs Denmark
This is a game which I enjoyed watching as these two teams were obliged to win to hope in this world cup … Le Guen has changed tactics which has led the offensive while the Danes have done this by-cons attack thanks to Rommedhal and Bendtner …
The Indomitable Lions were quickly opened the scoring thanks to the inévatible Eto’o enjoys a back pass from one of its partners … But the Danes have never abdicated and Bendtner equalized quickly on a share of a school Rommedhal perfect service, however the Cameroonian goalkeeper is not blameless in this but …
The second half was a carbon copy of the first, ie a Cameroon team that was moving very offensive opportunities but without success, including Eto’o … And came the cold realism of the Danes that they planted a knife in your back through which mystified Rommedhal Assou Ekoto, and scored with a shot crossed the goal in Cameroon …
Paul Le Guen’s men may bite fingers have missed many opportunities to drive the point home, including Eto’o hit the post in the 43th minute, Webo (58th, 61st), Makoun, Mbia, Emana, Idrissou … What a shame for a team so attractive on paper but ineffective for the 2nd qualifying round …
This pitiful elimination is the result of many months of hesitation under the leadership of Paul Le Guen confirmed that any incompetence lead to a club or a selection from France … I pity the Cameroonian to have stuck with a breeder with a charisma of octopus and has no credibility to them … I hope that the Indomitable Lions will leave on other bases after the World Cup …
It is officially eliminated, much to the despair of fans Cameroonian and African … Now it will take on Cote d’Ivoire and Ghana to see an African team to shine this year …
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Jojo,
I just wanted to say thanks for all the amazing effort you have put into your analysis and recaps of several games and groupings of the World Cup. I rarely, if ever, watch soccer and even though my interest in the sport is minimal, your comments and fan posts have been incredibly informative and have helped not only me, but our readers as well.
Thanks.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 19, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
My pleasure Eric!!!!
You and the staff made the same thing with the Dodgers… That’s why I love the Dodgers and their fans… I don’t need to go on the Dodger website… TBLA is my favorite Dodger blog for so many reasons…
Thanks Eric, your staff and TBLA readers for your incredible work all day…
I am very surprised and very touched by his compliments because I do not think my analysis would have an equally positive response from you and readers of this blog …
In any case, it makes me want to continue to analyze all the matches of this World Cup because I want to share my passion for soccer and open to everyone with my analysis … And it’s interesting to exchange opinions on soccer because I feel that many of you want it more than before …
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
LOL Italy
Go Kiwis!
(I actually watched one of the NZ players play in college at UCSB. They’re npt as bad as people made them out to be.) But Italy sure better wake up…
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You'd think
Italy would do WAY better at the Summer Olympics with all these great divers.
Italy is playing horribly
New Zealand is who we thought they were. They have never won a game in a major World Competition. Never!
Yeah and even if the first goal look offsides to me (maybe borderline) Italy's goal came
after a flop in the penalty box. So tied was about right. Italy really did nothing with their chances today.
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Corner count 14-0
pretty much the definition of living dangerously.
Have to say...
I am enjoying seeing traditional powers Italy, France, and England go into crisis mode. I realize it is hard for their supporters, like JoJo, but for those supporters of CONCACAF etc. it is like an entertaining trainwreck.
by LA Taco on Jun 20, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Meanwhile, Brazil looks quite scary. Tearing through the so called Grouo of Death
Poor Ivory Coast.
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I dunno about that. Solid defense, but two of the goals were gifts of a very porous CIV defense. Another was a gift of the official.
I’m not convinced any team has really separated themselves from the crowd yet.
Fair enough. The US scored 2 against them last year before ten falling apart in the 2nd half. No one is unbeatable.
(As that Confed. Cup proved.) None of the so called Superpowers look invulnerable. The US has to win their damned game on Wednesday but if they do I could see them being as dangerous as anyone, frankly. (IF they shore up their defensive issues in the early going.)
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Mini recap 06/20
Slovakia 0-2 Paraguay
In this game already for determining qualification for the next round, the Paraguayans have decided to go a very offensive team with the “Argentine” naturalized as Barrios …
The Paraguayans start the match off the floor with ball possession in their favor and that increased opportunities to the opening goal of the latter by Vera (26th minute) with a shot from the left uncrossed just die in the ventilator Mucha and served by the inevitable Barrios …
They have also mastered the corridors, preventing Slovak develop their offensive, including the image of a Bonet in great shape …
A timid response of the Slovak second half did not affect the dominance of the outrageous Albijora which will have to wait the 86th minute to finally get away by typing a new Riveros uncrossed his left into the side netting Mucha …
The score could have been much higher if they had missed their numerous occasions, including Santa Cruz, Barrios and Valdez …
But much has been done and they can wait calmly New Zealand for a match which must confirm their first place of this group …
Italy 1-1 New Zeland
Certainly the 2010 World Cup gives trouble to leading European teams, Italy is no exception to the rule …
Even facing the weakest team of the group and the competition, the Azzuri were nonexistent offensively, especially since their Lippi has warned of the trap that the All Whites tended, while many of them provided a easy victory at the 78th in FIFA rankings …
The All Whites have played with their weapons, that is to say the physical battle in midfield which considerably General Italians …
This pattern of play has borne fruit in the 7th minute when Smeltz resumed successfully a free kick from Elliot, fear then took hold of the Azzurri who puffed the absence of Buffon …
But this does not count on their strength of character they manage to return to the party thanks to a penalty converted by Iaquinta (29th) …
But the mental strength does not beat a team ranked poorly, the Azzurri have had a terrible time around the block strong team for the All Whites who have never really suffered …
This game has also found deficiencies in both tactical and technical, a lack of speed on the wings and finish again …
In short, Marcelo Lippi still has work to do in order to retain their trophy and the last game against the Slovak part is not fun …
Brazil 3-1 Ivory Coast
They were waiting for the turn after selecção first game winded meet North Korean … The response was scathing and flashy …
Yet the first half was not great quality, not bad approximations of the two technical teams … There are a few flashes of Robinho but without success until this superb collective action taken by Robinho, Kaka and Luis Fabiano to the conclusion (24th) …
Opening the scoring was freed auriverde who have proven their efficiency thanks to a Luis Fabiano of great nights, silent for 10 months in selection, FC Sevilla signs lined with a fine individual action, even if it contains two non-hands whistled by referee Mr Lannoy (50th, yet the french !!!!!!!)…
Kaka has finally delivered a performance worthy of its status as part of auriverde with two assists including one on the 3rd goal for Elano (63), but its good game suffers from an unjustified expulsion late in the game on a nudge more spectacular than wicked sent Keita (they are zero referees French) …
For the record, Drogba saved the honor of Elephants in the end game of a head …
Dunga’s Brazil is the second team qualified for the next round, as it will count on them even if the game is not flamboyant far, at least efficiency is …
PS: I guess many of you have followed the adventures of France for a few days, I would speak on Tuesday after the match against South Africa because the France team disgusts me …
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
One question, one suggestion
The suggestion first. Can we have a new open thread each day? It’s very hard to find this thread on mobile.
The question now. Am I reading right? Did Portugal drop seven goals on North Korea? Good gosh amighty.
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If Chile does not win this game today
I’m going to be very sad. I love watching them, plus I’m scared that Switzerland are going to pull a Greece in this tournament.
The Swiss
have now gone more than 6 games (over 550 minutes) since conceding a goal. Pretty impressive. Good game between SUI and Chile. Got a little chippy around the 60th minute.
The Death Blow
I want to apologize to any fans of Switzerland. I get on their nuts about not conceding a goal in in forever, and you guessed it! 1-0 Chile.
Here's hoping Mexico advances
Hernandez should get the start. ManU fans must be excited about this young kid. Great footwork.
Hey Delias man, you think he’s Mexico’s best striker?
As Requested - new thread
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/22/1529844/new-world-cup-open-thread
You can thank my temporary insomnia.
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