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Dodgers Win Worth The Wait, 12-0

The Lakers weren't the only Los Angeles team to administer a beat-down tonight.  A long rain delay wasn't enough to derail the Dodgers, as Rafael Furcal and James Loney lead an offensive explosion for a 12-0 win to open their nine-game road trip in Cincinnati. 

The Dodgers lead 3-0 after four innings, and were batting in the top of the fifth when the game was halted for a pending storm.  Two hours and 24 minutes later, Hiroki Kuroda, who had thrown 59 pitches in four shutout innings with seven strikeouts, came out to pitch the fifth inning to try for the win.  It's not often somebody pulls a John Stuper (well, Kuroda didn't finish the game, so never mind) and resumes pitching after such a long delay.  Whether this has any effect on Kuroda remains to be seen.

Some speculated in the game thread that Kuroda wanted to pitch five innings to get the win, but I disagreed, as Kuroda has not struck me, in my limited dealings with him, as someone who cares about individual statistics.  However, as Dylan Hernandez of the LA Times reported, I was mistaken:

Kuroda said he pushed Torre to use him after the rain delay

But before Kuroda could pitch his fifth inning, the Dodgers had to complete their turn at bat in the top of the inning.  The Dodgers added three more runs in the inning before Kuroda pitched, but it almost seemed like a bad thing.  At the time, another storm seemed eminent, so it was important to just make the game official, to complete that fifth inning.  It took 25 more pitches, but Kuroda did complete the inning without allowing a run, and finished the night with eight strikeouts, the fifth time he has struck out that many in a game in his career.

Rafael Furcal had the third five-hit game of his career, and his second as a Dodger.  The last time he had five hits was April 30, 2008 in Florida.  Furcal came to bat in the ninth inning with a chance to tie the Dodger record with six hits, but he grounded out to second base to end his offensive night.  Defensively, he made two great plays in the sixth inning, ranging to his right to retire both Joey Votto and Scott Rolen.

James Loney added four hits himself, including three doubles.  He has six hits in his last seven at-bats, including five doubles.

Notes

  • Chad Billingsley will be placed on the disabled list tomorrow with a right groin strain, and Travis Schlichting will be recalled to take his place
  • Manny Ramirez had three hits for the second straight game, adding his sixth home run and four runs batted in.
  • Matt Kemp broke out of his 0-for-16 slump with two hits and two RBI, including a sacrifice fly
  • Casey Blake had two hits and two walks
  • The Dodgers have scored 40 runs in four games in Cincinnati this year, and are now 2-2 in those games
  • Blake DeWitt was the only Dodger starter without a hit
  • Jordan Smith made his major league debut for the Reds, and pitched a scoreless ninth inning, allowing only a double to Russell Martin
  • Charlie Haeger made a rehab start for Albuquerque tonight, but did not fare well, allowing four hits, six runs (five earned), two home runs, and eight walks, while striking out four in 4 2/3 innings.

The pitching matchup of the series is tomorrow night, with Clayton Kershaw facing Mike Leake, as the Dodgers try to hand Leake his first big league loss.  It only seems fair since Leake beat the Dodgers for his first major league win.

WP - Hiroki Kuroda (6-4):  5 IP, 3 hits, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts

LP - Aaron Harang (5-6):  4 1/3 IP, 7 hits, 5 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts

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At least he had a good view

sportsguy33:
Highlight of the game: Diane Lane just walked by. And… that’s the only highlight I can think of.

by bhsportsguy on Jun 15, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Jon Ireland reported during halftime that Simmons was extremely confidant and cited the game 2 years ago when the Celtics erased a huge deficit as the reason.

by LA Taco on Jun 15, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected on Kuroda

From Dylan H:

Kuroda said he pushed Torre to use him after the rain delay

by Eric Stephen on Jun 15, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I added this to the story above

by Eric Stephen on Jun 15, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kuroda wants to get paid, thinks it’s 1992.

by regfairfield on Jun 15, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or wants a lucrative career with the Royals.

by regfairfield on Jun 15, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

wins are weapons for his agent no matter what year it is.

by LA Taco on Jun 15, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOICE

today was a good day

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 15, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I cant think of anything better

than the Lakers winning the championship, and the Dodgers go to Fenway the next day. I can’t imagine the crowd reaction

by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 15, 2010 10:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

we can inflict the ultimate torture upon the boston sports world this week

lets go LA sports teams!!

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Jun 15, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s a fantastic thought, thanks.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Loney now on pace

for 53 doubles. While it’d be nice to get some more homers, 50 doubles is a nice consolation prize.

by EMDarrow on Jun 15, 2010 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Loney

Is up to .304/.349/.457

by Eric Stephen on Jun 15, 2010 10:56 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I believe James and every Dodger fan fan owe me a bit of a thank you. In the 5 or 6 days since I bashed him one night during chat, he has raised his OPS almost 70 points.

So, lets see if I really have true powers. Thus far, Matt Kemp has a negative WAR. He has played defense as if he were impersonating a one legged baby hippo. Other than the first 15 games of the season, he has turned in his finest Juan Pierre impression as a hitter. He has stolen bases as if he were carrying Prince and Cecil Fielder to second base. If the Dodgers are to do any damage this year, he has to turn his game around and be the player we all saw last year.

There, now lets all hope it works.

by UCLADodger32 on Jun 15, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other guy I want to see get going

is Ethier. I blame the appearance of the sidebar for his troubles. Ever since the sidebar showed up, Ethier has either been injured or in a slump.

Kill the sidebar! Kill it now!!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It stays until he descends from atop the rate stats

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

So we get to watch the numbers dwindle?

….or if Rasmus has a great game today and Ethier has an ohfer, maybe Rasmus could pass Ethier. They’re currently 1.021 to .997.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I need to update the sidebar. As long as Ethier is at or very near the top, the sidebar stays!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, so first it was “stays until he descends from the top.” Now we get “at or near the top!” Define “near!”

The sidebar is Ethier’s undoing! Burn the witch! Burn it!

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Until Ethier is lower than 35th place in OPS by a left-handed hitting right fielder, the sidebar may or may not stay up!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 16, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know you're proud of it

but it may have killed Ethier’s power swing, hahaha.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I was on the leaderboard... I decided to look this up...

Outs Made
 
1. Kemp (LAD) 208
2. Headley (SDP) 204
3. Lee (HOU) 203
 Weeks (MIL) 203
5. Sandoval (SFG) 202
6. Cabrera (CIN) 199
7. Prado (ATL) 198
 Morgan (WSN) 198
9. Phillips (CIN) 197
10. Upton (ARI) 195
 Reyes (NYM) 195

Hmm. Maybe I need to start the Matt Kemp Outwatch.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes

UCLA32 was right, he is Juan Pierre. Now that he is leading the league in out made, will the fans who loved Juan Pierre start liking Matt Kemp?

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously? Kemp’s slump has brought his OPS+ to 115, Pierre’s was 84.

by regfairfield on Jun 16, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was always my point that counting Pierre’s hits was dumb — “he gets 200 hits a year” is a poor argument — so I countered it by counting his outs.

Making a lot of outs isn’t in and of itself a bad thing. Of course we have to consider other factors, like how far the ball goes when he hits it. Nobody is suggesting that Matt Kemp be replaced, like we were saying about Pierrre.

However, I like the irony that the last time a Dodger centerfielder led the league in outs, everyone, including me, called for his replacement… and he was replaced… by the Dodger centerfielder who now leads the league in outs. That is the universe getting in a good joke.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

However, I like the irony that the last time a Dodger centerfielder led the league in outs, everyone, including me, called for his replacement… and he was replaced… by the Dodger centerfielder who now leads the league in outs. That is the universe getting in a good joke.

That is what makes it so funny. On the plus side, Matt Kemp is so ingrained now into the team fabric that even when he leads the team in outs he is in no danger of losing playing time. He has earned the right to fail, making him a PVL.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

What is it since the beginning of the Nat Road Trip

we aren’t talking about his complete season but how he’s tanked since his incredible start.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now that's harsh

and Loney is still barely just better than him at this point.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 16, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fun with Selected Endpoints

Loney was terrible in April. He bottomed out after his play on April 29: his OPS was 660.

Since then — from April 30 through last night — he has hit .314/.372/.523 — OPS of 895.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eastbound and Down

will be back in September. I am freakin pumped

by keithc13 on Jun 16, 2010 6:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Current Dodgers OPS+

Martin 97 (above avg for a catcher)
Loney 118 (I’ll take it)
Dewitt 98 (above avg for a MIF)
Furcal 118 (Furry is killin it!)
Blake 114 (Slumpin’ but still above avg)
ManRam 141 (decent hitter)
Kemp 115 (Even with his slump still above avg for a CF)
Ethier 174

I can’t believe Loney has a higher OPS+ than Kemp.

by npurcell on Jun 16, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

The OPS+ would still be inaccurate at this point right?

They wouldn’t make the park adjustments until after the season ends.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

The park adjustments are constantly being made in season

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t realize that.

Thanks.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that new, because it didn’t work like that before?

by regfairfield on Jun 16, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

furry huh?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm taking credit

for coining that nickname way back on Dodger Thoughts in Furry’s first year.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jun 16, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never been a fan of “Furry” or “Fookie,” but I have actually heard Joe Torre refer to him as Fookie so I have to relent on that one.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

we call him furky around our house.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

You live in a house of lies!

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Backstop Bacon for Martin too

But no one seemed to like that either.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jun 16, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Too long to catch on, but its clever.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

First of all...GO LAKERS!!!!!!!

Awesome game from both teams In LA. Have to say though, just read through the game chat…and that had to be one of the weirdest ones I’d ever seen. Last few games, we’ve been screaming at the Dodgers to get some hits, and this game we were telling them to stop. Hilarious.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 8:24 AM PDT reply actions  

We sneakily had 1,159 comments in a single game thread last night. Did anyone have problems with the page loading?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

No problems loading

but when I came back at 9:30 and saw 600 more comments after I thought the game had been called I was like shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad you asked

I came on after the rain delay, and it was annoying and agonizingly slow to load. Took forever to get to the bottom of the page, seemed to refresh more often than usual. So, yeah, it was a bit clunky.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 16, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

robotmadeofnails. I deleted your comment since it’s a spoiler in case anybody is recording the soccer games. World Cup discussion can go in the fanpost.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I just figured everyone else had a real boring work environment like mine and spent their time watching ESPN3 and commenting here :)

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

ditto

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm really upset that I didn't see the game

instead I had an interesting evening and now I can’t tell if I’m still drunk or just on less than an hour of sleep. Watching the Dodgers unleash a can of whoopass on the unsuspecting Reds would have made last night awesome.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha I've had one of those nights.

hey Maddz, have you seen Andre’s Sportcenter commercial?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

I’m a one-woman gongshow at the moment.

And I have. Am I allowed to say I’m somewhat disappointed?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

you are

if you explain the gongshow comment. Are you saying you have a hangover?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I don't have a hangover

The Gong Show? It was on way back when…people would do wacky shit until someone hit a gong. I currently personify wacky shit completely with a gong ringing out. You can also substitute “shitshow”. Supposedly this is what people are supposed to do in their 20s? I think the pop music consensus is that 23 sucks and that no one likes you when you are that age.

I would have loved to see Loney be Road Loney…

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know what the Gong show is, just didn’t get what you meant by it.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. Sorry. I’m like, -3/7 awake.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

not neccessary. I know what that’s like too. My dad woke me up one time to ask me a question, and he said I started talking to him about vegas or something.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was hoping to see more Ethier being funny

and less that guy breaking stuff.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how you did it, but I’m smiling now.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOOK AT HIS FACE

And Beard like this is the most natural thing in the world.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake is a wacky, hilarious dude.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

I would love to meet him. He doesn’t seem to take himself that seriously at all.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

he is funny

I remember a story last year where Manny went up to some reporter with a bottle of champagne in his hand, and said “I’m gonna open this when I hit my next home run.” and Casey, without missing a beat said, “Guess it’ll be well-aged then.”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he have ski goggles on for the pennant celebration?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think he did

said something like he learned his lesson from last time.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

i wish i could see whatever is so funny. :(

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The funniest Casey Blake moment for me was on his profile show (Prime Ticket or something) when he talked about first coming over in the trade. He was like, “this sucks, I want to go back to Cleveland.”

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re all models there, who wouldn’t?

by regfairfield on Jun 16, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

the backdrop of the story would be cool. That is the silliest I’ve seen him.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Wow

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 16, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude

Casey isn’t even looking at Dre during most of that.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last night was so weird

and yet, from a timing standpoint, was almost perfect.

The Dodger game started at 4pm, and entered a rain delay about 15 minutes before the Laker game started. Two hours and 24 minutes later, the Laker game was well under control, and the Dodger game was back.

You had Kuroda coming back trying to get a win by finishing the fifth inning, and the threat of another storm was supposed to come within like 20 minutes of the restart. The Dodgers added three runs in the top of the 5th, but we almost didn’t want the runs; we just wanted the game to become official before the rains came again.

Then, all of a sudden, the rain never came. And the Dodgers just kept hitting. Awesome night.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the surliness last night. I try not to be like that but sometimes frustration boils over.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

At least I didn’t break my hand against a wall.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

my boss got really mad

and punched his windshield, breaking it. that’s kind of funny. i guess.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, you really have to punch hard to do that. Did he just destroy his hand?

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he broke a knuckle.

It was after the Christmas party, actually.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

only if you honk his nose afterwards.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw it after the fact

And I don’t mean to rehash it, but i’m inclined to agree with you. I realize the Dodgers don’t have a ton of depth at starting pitching, but if Haeger is ineffective in AAA, I can’t see the logic of throwing him out there. It’s disappointing since I don’t think Monk is a legitimate SP either, but I guess I have to give those starts to Monk.

It’s more frustrating to me that Elbert couldn’t earn the job, or Withrow (seriously if Withrow was pitching well this year he’d be a candidate to make a start IMO), and McDonald is hurt. Oh well, at least the Dodgers got a SP in Ely or else the pitching situation would be disastrous.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should we be interested in signing Ian Snell at all? He was DFA’d by Seattle because he was terrible but he might provide us with some depth. We could really be in some dire straits if Padilla were to come back and experience a reoccurrence of his injury. Snell is really not an answer but it probably would be wise to start thinking about bringing someone in.

by OB12 on Jun 16, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would sign anyone who would take a minor league contract and is better than Seth Etherton at this point.

by regfairfield on Jun 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is what I’m thinking. I am looking at guys who probably would take a minor league deal with the idea that both Padilla and Bills will be back and requiring a rotation spot soon enough.

by OB12 on Jun 16, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You went to the game last night, right?

Did you stick around through the weather delay or did you leave?

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I went (and predictably brought the offense with me, lol), but we stayed until about 9:15 and then decided to leave. We have a 7 month old boy, who was having a good time but figured he would be a crank if we stayed to see if they started back up. I got back home just in time to see the game resume on TV.

by OB12 on Jun 16, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on the timing, it could come down to whether or not Snell would accept a minor league deal. Of course, if something happens with Padilla this weekend, they could sign Snell to a major league deal.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know what, Looper’s still available.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the one hand, I think it’s encouraging that the team has become good at stealing decent pitchers from under the noses of other franchises (Beli, Ely, Link, the Monster Monk). But on the other hand, I confess, I’m increasingly concerned about LA’s own pitcher development.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not everyone can be good

but we have a pretty good % of pitchers from our farm system making significant contributions:
Kershaw, Billingsley, Broxton, Kuo, Troncoso is a decent % don’t you think?

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

I’m not sure we expected McDonald to get hurt. Those things happen…right?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what that means.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 16, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

There
Is
No
Such
Thing
As a
Pitching
Prospect

coined by Baseball Prospectus

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

to expand
Those things happen…right?

pitching injuries happen all the time, it’s just the way it goes in baseball.

by npurcell on Jun 16, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate that it happened running the bases though

Why don’t they have DH’s in all minor league games? They do in college. The point is for guys to refine their game for the pros. It gets more at bats for players and pitchers can just focus on what they will get paid to do, pitch.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the NL they also hit

it is called baseball, not AL Baseball.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer to develop managers instead of players anyways in the minors.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s the current gap between the major league roster and the guys we have at A that worries me, but I could’ve made that more clear.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 16, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have some arms

even if they have struggled
From AA up:
Great Talent
Withrow, Jansen(Sept callup for sure)
Good Talent
McDonald, Elbert, Lindblom(bullpen should steady him)
Average Talent – all bullpen
Schlichting, Link, Saint Claire, Leach
Back of the rotation for a spot start or two
Bastardo, Castillo, Sexton

Nothing like what is percolating in A+/A ball
Martin, Miller, Eovaldi, Webster, MaGill, Pimentel

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget about Frias, De La Rosa, and Aguasviva.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did forget to mention

the latter two but Frias is still in extended spring training. If we start mentioning all those arms we have Frias, Danielson, Gould, and of course Lee:)

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Frias is 6’4" 170 lbs with present velocity in the mid 90s. If/when he fills out, this could be another upper 90s beast.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

So

In two years or so, he’ll be “THE BEST EVAR!”

Right?

by EMDarrow on Jun 16, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ideal scenario:

Billingsley returns at full strength – This time off could prove beneficial.

Padilla returns and consistently gives 6+ innings of 4.00 or less ball per start.

Ely/Monk team up in the #5 spot.

If Billingsley or Padilla falter, time to bring in the reinforcements.

by 68elcamino427 on Jun 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well most of it was realistic
Padilla returns and consistently gives 6+ innings of 4.00 or less ball per start.

This one, probably not but certainly 4.25 – 4.50 ball is reachable.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been busy at work lately

so haven’t been able to follow the game threads much. What a great, great game though last night. I thought it was unfortunate that our offense was finally getting going and then there had to be a game delay, and then to see the game resume and the Dodgers just pile it on was icing on the cake last night.

by Jesse S. on Jun 16, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

great for the Dodgers, not so much for the Reds or the local weather department...

First, they predicted the rain to start at 10 Eastern time, which was a lot later than when it actually did. Then, they said there was about a half hour window of opportunity for clear skies until it’d rain the rest of the night. Luckily for us, they were wrong on that, as well. These stat-padding games are great to have every now and then.

by sarcastro9 on Jun 16, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

$1 “super fruit” smoothies all day today at Jamba Juice

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Now that is a deal

how can I trust this information without a link?

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can confirm it.

And tha’ts $1 even, tax included. Limit 2 per customer suposedly, but I was feeling dangerous and ordered 3.

by Jesse S. on Jun 16, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many calories in one of those?

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm...

I miss California. In-n-Out, Jamba Juice, Trader Joes, Zankou Chicken….

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to St. Louis to see the Dodgers

next month with my wife. The main reason she wants to go is to stock up on Trader Joe goodies.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is a great reason

whenever my brother visits he does the same. I feel for areas that do not have a Trader Joe’s.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Trader Joes

but there is not one in the high desert.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shocking news

they have even made it to Chicago. I’ve got one within walking distance. When I retire I plan on working for them.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Surely you don’t live in Chicago? Really?

by berkowit28 on Jun 16, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I have a friend who works for them in Chicago. Locally I have one within walking distance of my house.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they don't have them in Oklahoma

because grocery stores can’t serve wine and strong beer here. Lame bible belt rules.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

quite the combo, health food/Frozen Food/Beer/Wine/Flowers.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s true in Oregon too. Liquor stores are regulated heavily by the state and they close by 7 and aren’t open on Sundays at all. Liquor stores don’t sell beer at all. Grocery stores can’t sell any liquor.

You basically have to plan ahead of time if you are going to have a party.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will go on record and say that Jamba Juice is gross. Well, it is only gross because I know of the awesomeness that is Blenders in the Grass. Why did you have to ruin other smoothie chains for me, Blenders in the Grass? Why?

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Californians don’t have White Castle. I’ve been DYING to try one for years (ever since the original Harold & Kumar). Oh, and I don’t mean the frozen version.

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s okay, but I prefer Steak n Shake

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have never ate at Steak n Shake...

But there’s a few around here. The burgers are worthwhile?

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Decent…I just love me some curly fries :)

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Curly fries are the shit. Burger Street has some great ones.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d give anything to be eating garlic fries in Chavez Ravine again…..it’s been years.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to live in Echo Park....

People would park next to my apartment and walk to Dodger Stadium.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

in traveling cross country the biggest shock to me was that Oklahoma was green. To many dustbowl movies had imprinted my mind.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Green Country

is what they call it out here. I don’t mind it…..the humidity is just awful.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only thing I remember form driving through OK as a kid was the red dirt. I know it has greenery and is probably a quite pleasant place, but that image stuck with me.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 16, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I live in Oklahoma.....

Whataburger and Burger Street are pretty awesome. But I still crave In-N-Out occassionally.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're rare, I think.

We mainly have Winchells and Yum Yums here in LA, that I’ve seen. And, I think one of those is owned by DD, perhaps.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 16, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

very rare

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per the DD website

There is none within 50 miles of either LA or SF. If they are in CA at all, they must be in pretty obscure places.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh, OK. I thought I’d seen one in LA, but I may have been hallucinating. Wouldn’t be the first time.

by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 16, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they include airports in that?

I’m with TopDeck. I seem to recall having seen a DD in CA, but it might have been in the airport.

As you may know, I grew up in Schenectady, NY, where they have DD. As a child, I didn’t drink coffee, but I swore by their chocolate honey glazed doughnuts. I wonder what I’d think of them today — probably that they’re too sweet.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

They used to have them at LAX, but that was like 20 years ago. There is not a Dunkin at LAX anymore.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that is the last thing I am missing out on…two blocks away

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am awaiting this answer

because it sounds like he has DD two blocks away.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected. It must be some other donut chain that I associate it with. I would much rather go to the local one in Eagle Rock…so good

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had one in Boston, and they are just OK. I like the local small shops around here to have better donuts. have to bring Tripon in on the donut conversation.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually only care about the coffee

Which I find so much better than Starbucks/Coffee Beans we have.

Coffee Bean is the closest thing. Starbucks coffee is completely different then Dunkins.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I must say I saw more people buying coffee than anything else. I couldn’t tell you anything about coffee, never tried it in my life.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

my brother made White Castle stuffing a few years back for Thanksgiving. He used the frozen burgers, but said it came out good.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It seems a lot of people love White Castle

And a lot of people think its gross.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Food Thoughts. Always great discussion. I wish there were places locally like where Adam Richman goes on “Man v. Food”

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I find Phillipes quite overrated.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've only been there twice

I found it quite delicious myself. But to each his own.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was tasty, but pricey. So, yea, I would agree with overrated

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 16, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is definitely not worth the normally long wait (at least before a Dodger game), but I really liked the sandwiches, and the mustard is outstanding.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitching Problems solved

The Dodgers have signed Claudio Vargas to a minor league deal; he is now with Albuquerque.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Would’ve preferred Snell, but this will do for depth.

by OB12 on Jun 16, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vargas as AAA depth fodder is fine but I can't imagine he'll fare very well in the PCL

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 16, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been hoping so for months but doubt they will pay what he wants

He’ll have to lower his price (give the Old Team/Half Season Discount)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jun 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

They seem fine

joked around together at last year’s NLCS

by Julio Nievas on Jun 16, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Given the other options

and not having to give up prospects….if his price isn’t too outrageous it seems like a worthwhile idea.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

$8 mil. + lawyering for the Mrs. = No dinero for Pedro

by 68elcamino427 on Jun 16, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really think that 8mil is prorated. nobody is paying 8 mil for maybe 15 pedro starts.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

$8 mil is going to wifey now, in addition to the lawyers expenses.
Based on what we observed so far, wouldn’t it be something if McCourt decided to give good old Pedro even $2 mil for 1/2 a season?

by 68elcamino427 on Jun 16, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

But as has been pointed out before

We don’t know if McCourt’s winter budget included a contingency fund for a midseason acquisition.

This isn’t like last year where the Dodgers signed Blake, Manny, Furcal and Hudson in the offseason.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

didn’t Colleti say he could add payroll at the deadline? or do we just not trust anything management says?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably both. I think they probably can and I think its completely understandable to view managements announcements skeptically.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

we wanna believe

but something always holds us back.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

coincidentally that number has been thrown around for Pete.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s what he got last year wasn’t it?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have to look it up to confirm

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Manny and Pedro

are best buds from what I remember. I also remember hearing that Pedro and some other players leaving Boston is what may have lead Manny to being unhappy there. About Pedro and the Dodgers though, some Boston writer said he still had a grudge against them, but I have doubts about that.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'd think

but that was the only thing I can remember about Pedro/Dodgers having problems.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was close.. Pete is just so loveable.. bring him aboard.

by delias man on Jun 16, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d heard it was the trading him away and “too small” comments. which is why I doubt it still. I mean, he showed them by having a HOF career.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we signed Martinez today, he probably wouldn’t be available until after the ASB, he is going to need some time to tune up.

by OB12 on Jun 16, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

asking for too much money?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well.....

If he holds out much longer all he’s going to be is a professional little league coach.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coordinating hanger inventory for a chain of dry cleaners?

by 68elcamino427 on Jun 16, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reds Lineup

per Jamie Ramsey of the Reds:

Cabrera SS
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Bruce RF
Stubbs CF
Hernandez C
Leake P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw vs. Leake

I’m really looking forward to this matchup. Hopefully the Dodgers aren’t too spent from dishing out all the offense they did last night.

by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jun 16, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT...Laker game

My neighbor was at the Laker game last night in a suite w/his two sons. After the Shannon Brown alley-oop dunk, I made an off-hand comment to my son, “What can Brown do for you!?”. He thought that was funny, so he texted my neighbor’s son at the game. His response was classic: “Fucking dunk, bitch!!!”

by KellyStephen on Jun 16, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Vin used that line back when Kevin Brown pitched for the Dodgers and UPS sponsored the telecast

“Sponsored by…. [two sponsors here]… and by UPS. What can Brown do for you? And today, the Dodgers will see what Brown can do for them on the mound….”

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jun 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, awesome

I think one of the commentators during the game used that line when they showed the replay.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harumph! They stole it from me! (As if it was original) Was it Van Gundy????

by KellyStephen on Jun 16, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, one of other guys, I don’t know their names.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 16, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad luck for Angels continues

Aybar with torn meniscus. Price they pay for sweeping us

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

there can be only one!

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 16, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aki Iwamura DFA

to make room for Pedro Alvarez

by silverwidow on Jun 16, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

He should

I’m a bit shocked at what happened to him in Pitt. He was servicable for the Rays.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iwamura wanted to sign a long term extension with the Pirates too.

Andy LaRoche saves his job for another day.

by Tripon on Jun 16, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once they see how Pedro plays 3rd base

it may not even very long. How long did Braun last at 3rd before they moved him to LF? Plus the Pirates already have a hole at 1st base so it would not take much to simply move him across the diamond and another highly touted 3rd baseman simply becomes a statistic.

by meercatjohn on Jun 16, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Braun was moved to LF after his rookie season. He was called up in May of his rookie year, so he spent less than 1 season at 3B.

by Michael White on Jun 16, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

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