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Team Preview - Streaking Red Sox bring the Bats

This Red Sox team is talented but these days they not only have to deal with the New York Yankees but with the young, and talented Tampa Bay Rays. The Red Sox have been chasing both teams since the start of the year. On May 23 they were 8.5  games out of 1st place but have closed to only 2.0 games with a scorching run. The total record is  40 - 28.

Pythag backs up the record:

Scored 373 runs, Allowed 315 runs. Pythagorean W-L: 39-29

Home record of 23  - 15 (.605 Win %)

Since a tough April in which they played less then .500 ball they are 29 - 16. We are the third leg of their homestand in which they have gone 5 - 1 so far. 

Plenty of injuries have hit the Red Sox so they are not playing with all their parts. The ace of the staff Josh Beckett was pretty much the worse pitcher in the AL before he went down with an injury. He is not expected back until after the all-star game. Dice K missed the first few weeks of the year and then has been hit and miss. He suffered a mild forearm strain and hit the DL for the 2nd time this season. Their starting LF Jacoby Ellsbury  has only been able to play in nine games this year. His backup Jeremy Hermida recently joined him on the DL.

Even with the injuries the Red Sox are playing the best baseball in the AL in June. Overall they lead the league in hitting with a wOBA of .359 and in June that has climbed to .398. They are 2nd in the league in home runs with 88 and runs scored 373. They need the hitting because the pitching has not been upto normal Red Sox standards, but that is to be expected with their best pitcher either ineffective or not pitching at all. Just in case you missed this while the Dodgers were struggling in April, Josh Beckett made eight stats and had an ERA of 7.12 before he was mercifully put on the DL. When your ace is Haeger like, it is hard to compete but the Sox have plenty of arms and have made do.

On the DL : Josh Beckett,  Jacoby Ellsbury, Junichi Tazawa, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Jeremy Hermida

Old Friends : Adrian Beltre, JD Drew

Position Breakdown

1st Base- Kevin Youkilis continues to be one of best 1st baseman in the AL.  The one time Greek God of Walks has turned into the complete ballplayer. His wOBA is sitting at .442 which is not fluky since he's had an wOBA over .400 since 2008. The man can simply rake, and his defense is always above average.

2nd Base- Dustin Pedroia has fallen from the heights of his MVP season but he's having a solid season. The wOBA of .354 is fourth in the AL for 2nd baseman, and it is a huge drop after him. The defense is above average so while he does not do everything as well as Youkilis for a 2nd baseman he is well above average.

SS - The Red Sox have the best SS in baseball in Hanley Ramirez  Ha, what could have been. Instead of Hanley they have Marco Scutaro and while that might have been a joke two years ago, Marco has now established himself as an above average major league SS. The one time utility player got a nice pay day from the Red Sox, and he has not disappointed putting up .337 wOBA.

3rd Base -Ex Dodger Adrian Beltre is doing something he's never done. Knocking the shit out of ball in the first half. He was nagged by injuries in 2009, but finally healthy he is stroking while providing his normal excellent defense. Other then his near MVP season in 2004 this is the best that Beltre has ever hit. His wOBA is at .389 and he's just behind Longoria as the best 3rd baseman in the AL in the first half.

CVictor Martinez can still hit putting up a TSL of .294/.344/493. Jason Varitek in limited duty is smoking the ball with a .263/.341/.592 TSL. Rest agrees with Mr. Varitek.

CF - Not everyone is hitting. Mike Cameron missed quite a bit of time with injuries and has only played in 22 of the 68 games. When he has played he has none of the power that was a major part of his game. His TSL is .254/.338/.324. For a man whose career slug % is .447 that is a far cry from his normal excellent self.

RF - The much maligned JD Drew has been able to shoulder the workload by playing in 64 of the 68 games this year. He's not having a great year but he is contributing to the tune of .272/.357/.451.

LF - With Ellsbury and Hermida on the DL the Red Sox have turned to Daniel Nava who is one of the great stories of the 2010 season. Nava hit a grand slam on the first pitch he ever saw in the major leagues and has not looked back. He's only played five games but has five XBH in those games and has the crazy line of .444/.474/.833.


 "My story goes back to getting out of high school and walking on at Santa Clara," explained Nava in a 2009 interview for Boston Baseball Magazine. "I ended up getting cut my freshman year, which was 2000-2001, and when that happened, I thought I was done playing ball. I wanted to stay in the game, so I became the team manager, doing things like washing laundry and all of the things that a clubby does in pro ball. After those two years, I couldn’t afford to go to [Santa Clara] anymore, so I left. Then I ended up running into a buddy who said that I should come to his junior college and try out for the team. I said, ‘Why not’ and ended up making the team and having two really good years. From there, I actually got a scholarship back to Santa Clara and played for one year, which is all of the eligibility I had left. I didn’t get drafted, so I tried to get another year of eligibility back, but that got denied, so I basically ended up taking a whole year off between my year at Santa Clara and indie ball. I was going to tryout camps, trying to get picked up, but nobody signed me until the Chico Outlaws called the day before [their season] started and said, ‘Hey, if you want to play independent-league ball, come up here right now.’ So I packed my stuff and drove up there, and the funny thing is that the only reason they called me is that one of their guys had decided to retire; another guy deciding to stop playing is what actually gave me the opportunity."

To cap off this incredible story, fast forward to his first game last week. Before the game Joe Castiglione the Sox announcer tells him "

Swing at that first pitch, because you’ll never get a chance to hit a homer on your first pitch in the big leagues."

He not only hit a home run on his first swing in the major leagues, he hits a bloody grand slam.

DH - The demise of David Ortiz was greatly exaggerated and after a tough start has moved his OPS up and over .900. In June. Most of that work was done in May where he compiled a 1.228 OPS after an April OPS of .533. There is a reason why veteran sluggers get plenty of time to work out the kinks.

Bench - Darnell McDonald, Mike Lowell, Bill Hall, and Jason Varitek are the main components. You won't be seeing much pinch hitting. Varitek will probably catch at least one game.

Starting Pitching for our Series:

Game One -The Dodgers get to face the debut of Felix Doubront.   Here is the Baseball HQ scouting report on him:

Felix Doubront (LHP, BOS)
The 22 year-old will make his Major League debut with a spot start on Friday, June 18. Doubront is lean and athletic and finished second in the Double-A Eastern League in ERA in '09 thanks to improved fastball command and a solid sinker. He's continued to improve in other areas of his craft in '10, most notably his curveball and maintaining his release point. His whip-like arm action gives solid movement to his pitches which lead to groundballs and weak contact. Doubront's fastball sits between 89-94 mph and he has a curveball, slider, and changeup in his big of tricks. A deceptive delivery enhances his changeup, which often serves as his strikeout offering. Doubront's future success may be predicated on his ability to command his secondary offerings.
STATS: Pawtucket (AAA) - 4 gs, 2-1 1.08 ERA, 16.2 IP, 3.2 CMD, 2.7 CTL, 8.6 DOM, 0 HR, .250 oppBA
Portland (AA) - 8 gs, 4-0 2.51 ERA, 43 IP, 2.2 CMD, 3.6 CTL, 7.9 DOM, 0 HR, .250 oppBA

Game Two - Knuckleballer Tim Wakefield will try to baffle us with the wafter. We can only hope he goes Haeger on us. Wakefield has an ERA of 5.72, but a FIP of 4.74. Wakefield had lost his spot in the rotation but with the injuries he is back where he's been for the last 15 years. He's now nine wins shy of 200 and will go down as one of the top five knuckleballers in history behind such HOF as Wilhelm, Niekro, Wood, Niekro.

Game Three - The Red Sox waited patiently for top prospect Clay Buchholz to develop and it has been worth the wait. Buchholz has an ERA of 2.67 supported by a FIP of 3.42.He threw a complete game shutout on June 4th then was hammered in his next start. He split the different the in his last start.

Bullpen: Jon Papelbon is not as dominant as he was in 2008 but he still gets the job done. Daniel Bard seems to pitch every game, and does an excellent job in getting the game to Papelbon. Bard has an average fastball of 97.9 MPH so when he comes in, he brings the heat. Hideki Okajima is still the main LHP, and he's still very effective. The rest of the bullpen is compiled of Ramon Ramirez, and Manny DelCarmen. Anyone else and we are either leading big or losing big.

Coming into Fenway after the huge Laker/Celtic series is huge. Beating the Celtics in a great game seven will probably put most of the city in a bad mood. As with any Red Sox team, this team can hit, but we are lucky to miss Lester and Lackey. A pitchers debut is always exciting so first game will be extra interesting as we invade Fenway.

Many have discounted the value of interleague play, but when they sit their butts down tonight to watch this game, as baseball fans, I expect that to dissolve as they marvel at the Dodgers playing the Red Sox in Fenway Park.

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FYI

http://www.nesn.com/boston-red-sox/

has plenty of Manny stories up.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jun 18, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Niekro must be really really good

to be on there twice. Unless there are two of them. ;)

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 18, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Other than Jeff Weaver

nobody was with the Dodgers when they were last in Boston, in 2004. Here is the full list of Dodgers with experience in Fenway Park:

Manny: 590 G, 2505 PA, .315/.423/.583
Anderson: 71 G, 301 PA, .324/.349/.530 (22 2B, 11 HR, 59 RBI)
Johnson: 34 G, 117 PA, .202/.291/.269
Blake: 14 G, 54 PA, .348/.426/.761 (5 HR)
Furcal: 7 G, 33 PA, .185/.333/.296
Carroll: 7 G, 28 PA, .296/.296/.308
Belliard: 5 G, 22 PA, .150/.227/.200

Weaver: 9 G, 8 GS, 45 IP, 2-3, 7.40 (he won with Dodgers in 2004)
Padilla: 3 G, 2 GS, 14 1/3 IP, 1-0, 3.14 ERA
Miller: 2 GS, 11 IP, 1-1, 4.76
Sherrill: 6 G, 4 IP, 1 save, 0.00 ERA

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I deleted some comments in case anybody is TIVO’ing the game this morning. For spoilers sake, try to keep all soccer comments in the fanpost.

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

It's too bad you didn't delete them for the fact that they were about soccer :P

I’m sure I’m in a minority here, but I don’t like soccer at all. I’m not sure how so many people can watch something that has so little entertainment…idk, just not my thing I guess.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering it wasn't long ago

That baseball was the pariah sport in the US with dwindling viewership and participation levels, I wouldn’t be too quick to say soccer is lacking entertainment value.

A ton of people would call watching baseball boring and without entertainment.

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

To me it is like hockey

a great spectator sport but not very interesting on TV.

by meercatjohn on Jun 18, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen one college soccer game in person

and I guess it was a little more entertaining, just not by much.

Hockey is way fun in person.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've only been to one hockey game in person. Kings

they totally sucked that night, but the thing that saved the night was a guy a few rows behind me just yelling funny crap for like the last 2.5 periods. He wasn’t even cursing either, which made it even better.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d have to imagine baseball on a daily basis has MUCH better viewership than daily, non-World Cup soccer.

The differences with baseball and soccer, to me, are that it can be a low scoring game and still have plenty of things that are interesting to watch, such as great pitching or great defense, while, sorry, a goalie stopping a soccer ball doesn’t do anything for me, same with a slide tackle to get the ball away.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This thread needs to die before someone gets hurt

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

:)

Ivdown – Pissing off soccer fans since 1989.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You never played it, I’m guessing.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jun 18, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I played when I was a tike and never really enjoyed playing that much

I only got into it when I started watching World Cup level soccer. The MLS in comparison is a total shit fest.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 18, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave up playing baseball much earlier than soccer

Played soccer up through my junior year of high school. Played baseball through my freshman year.

Played football the longest, throughout high school. Definitely the sport I enjoyed playing the most.

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

What position were you for football?

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tight end and Defensive End.

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I had been athletic enough to be a DE

I was a DT though. I loved playing on the defensive line.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh, tike

never played soccer. I played baseball as a kid, but I was afraid of the ball, so I was no good at it. I think I made contact one time and fouled the ball off. I was amazed.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've played it with friends

Never had any real fun with it.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree. I know a lot of people love the sport, but I just can’t get into it. There seems like there is a lot of build up with very little payoff in soccer. Kick the ball around, gets close to the goal but then it gets kicked back out to mid field or goes out of play. That goes on for a couple of hours until the 0-0 tie is decided by a kickoff after regulation. Why not just skip the stuff in the middle and get right to the kickoff? Admittedly, I have only watched a few games in my lifetime so it is small sample size, but that seems to be the way most games go.

by OB12 on Jun 18, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what a lot of people say about baseball?

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by nolander on Jun 18, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure there is slightly more to it than I’ve said, but there is so much more involved with baseball than there is with soccer. But i see what you mean.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, those who would make a similar against baseball

Would argue those other things are boring and stupid.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jun 18, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well we all know those people would be stupid and wrong, so it’s all good :)

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

tru dat

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by nolander on Jun 18, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lol. I know I shouldn’t just trash soccer, I just can’t see the excitement of it. Idk.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a LOT involved with soccer that people who don't play or follow it

don’t see or understand. Just like baseball. There is so much strategy, positioning, personnel manuevering, alone… in addition to called plays, passing to space, etc etc. That I won’t go on. can we just agree to disagree and move on?

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by underdog on Jun 18, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not passionate enough against soccer to have a debate about it :)

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

No worries; i'm not passionate enough about commenting to carry on ;-)

I have no problem with people not being into soccer, it doesn’t affect me personally. I love it, and whatever. I only get prickly when I hear some Americans who are not into it also disparage it or fans of the game. I find Cricket utterly inexplicable and dull but have friends who love it and I’ve at least gained an appreciation of it, even if I am not into it. To each their own.

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by underdog on Jun 18, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kent Brockman for soccer :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOHdTQd6H8

I am SO glad I found this, hahaha.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they bombed on Wakefield in the second game at BOS in 04 too. Hope same happens.

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I was too disgusted watching the hot dog vendors slam a watery dog in a slice of wonder bread at Fenway to remember the particulars.

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly, that Saturday game was the one when Vin was in the stands, with Frank & Jamie McCourt, right? It seemed so weird seeing Vin not in the broadcast booth.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Saenz had a popup that Manny dropped in B9 to allow tying Cora to score in Friday night game that series.

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beltre still has a good shot

at ending his career with over 350 home runs putting him in the top 10 career wise for 3rd baseman. He’s currently 20th with 259.

                                             
Rk Player HR AB RBI BB OPS
1 Mike Schmidt 548 8352 1595 1507 .908
2 Eddie Mathews 512 8537 1453 1444 .885
3 Chipper Jones 430 8000 1468 1384 .942
4 Darrell Evans 414 8973 1354 1605 .792
5 Graig Nettles 390 8986 1314 1088 .750
6 Matt Williams 378 7000 1218 469 .805
7 Gary Gaetti 360 8951 1341 634 .741
8 Ron Santo 342 8143 1331 1108 .826
9 Vinny Castilla 320 6822 1105 423 .797
10 Troy Glaus 317 5232 932 827 .857
11 George Brett 317 10349 1595 1096 .857
12 Ron Cey 316 7162 1139 1012 .799
13 Scott Rolen 297 6599 1174 831 .870
14 Robin Ventura 294 7064 1182 1075 .806
15 Ken Boyer 282 7455 1141 713 .810
16 Dean Palmer 275 4902 849 502 .796
17 Aramis Ramirez 269 5442 968 440 .836
18 Brooks Robinson 268 10654 1357 860 .723
19 Tim Wallach 260 8099 1125 649 .732
20 Adrian Beltre 259 6537 952 493 .783

Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 6/18/2010.

by meercatjohn on Jun 18, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

After 2004 I thought he had a shot at about 400 or more

Because of his age and the season he had just had. Now, Idk unless he finds that power stroke again.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s interesting watching him take a knee when he hits one this year. Did he always do that? I can’t remember.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, is Scott Rolen a later-to-be-HOFer?

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shoutout from NESN
Now, the Dodgers, who have appeared in the last two NL championship series with help from Ramirez, head into Fenway Park for an interleague series featuring two of the top teams in all of baseball. As Phil Gurnee of True Blue LA tells us, the Dodgers are contending for the NL West title once again this year, largely in part to strong pitching and widespread offensive contribution.

http://www.nesn.com/2010/06/manny-ramirez-dodgers-arrive-in-boston-in-wake-of-celticslakers-finale.html

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Good thing I read thoroughly

It’s an interview, haha.

That’s cool.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great quote
We love big John. Some fans still grumble about his heart, but those people are radio talk whiners, not intelligent blog readers

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only comment on this article so far
Please Red Sox Nation do not cheer Manny’s return. Remember that this is a man who knocked down a 60+ year old travelling secretary, who left the field during the game to go to the bathroom, who never ran hard to first base, was always a defensive liability and quit on his team, the fans and the city when he didn’t feel like playing in Boston anymore. Please BOO him as loudly as you can each and every time he comes to bat. Let’s let these prima donna athletes know that if it wasn’t for us hard-working fans who pay outrageous ticket prices, they wouldn’t make their outrageous salaries. Let Manny know we’re tired of athletes attitude of entitlement. Manny is a tremendously gifted hitter, no one disputes that. But his attitude and behavior are more like a 10 year old’s than a professional anything. BOO HIM!

I honestly think the only player I might boo (besides ANY Phillies player) is Andruw Jones, and there is actual reason to boo Jones, because he did nothing for us. Manny was the best hitter that team has had since Ted Williams, and he helped them win their first WS in 80+ years, and then a 2nd 3 years later. You need to appreciate the players that made your team great.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good for this guy.

  sox-fan said in reply to DMAC…

show some appreciation for what he did for the red sox organization. he was one of the biggest reason why we won the world series two times. yes he was hard to deal with as a player, but it was fun to see him at bat. i have only been a baseball fan for about 7 years now, he was the reason why i became a red sox fan and a fan of baseball. when he comes to boston i will show my appreciation to him.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

funny thing is

when Ted Williams was playing for the Red Sox, a lot of fans didn’t like him because of his attitude.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That commenter won’t like my game preview (which will be up at 1pm)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO

Incredibly well played :D

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

If this isn’t green within 5 minutes I’m going to go crazy, lol.

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

BAHAHAHA

Rec. that was awesome. well played sir, well played.

by npurcell on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to question your belief that Manny was money related.

Then I read the last line. You had me fooled.

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks guys

I’m going to post a Fanshot to an ESPN Radio Boston segment on Manny in a bit. Since this was so well received, I guess I’ll include it! :)

by sarcastro9 on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Omg yes, please!

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by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks, Phil

On a somewhat related note, I couldn’t help but to notice that you didn’t have an “old friends” section this time around. Was it a mere oversight, or is it that you don’t consider J.D. Drew (and possibly Beltre) old friends? :)

by sarcastro9 on Jun 18, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oversight

bit of a hurry this morning. Something happened last night that had me distracted from writing:)

by meercatjohn on Jun 18, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

So… are we supposed to go to this SBNation hook up thing or something?

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

when/where?

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by nolander on Jun 18, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

June 29

Capitol City – Hollywood

5-8pm

Discounted select appetizers
$5 wells
$4 domestic beers

1615 N Cahuenga Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90028

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

And for those that don’t drink…Pepsi? Vitamin Water??

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to guess they also have soft drinks :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

That place looks awesome! But I don’t like the word ‘upscale.’ I want no part of a suit/tie.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will likely be wearing jeans and an un-tucked shirt

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I might tuck in the shirt

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of the Yard House.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like that they have like a billionty beers

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

A similar place by my house called 38 degrees.

http://38degreesalhambra.com/

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you guys seeing something I'm not seeing

The website is just a black backrgound with the phone number saying the site is under construction.

How can you tell how it looks?

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are pictures of the bar.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I have to click the button that says "enter"

Well its only been since 96 that I’ve been using this internet thing

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Remember when you started all the sites were under construction

by meercatjohn on Jun 18, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is a video as well with some pics. Still, a shitty website

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I need to go so Mike and I can break down PAC12 potential championship game sites.

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going, so you know it will be a party

by Michael White on Jun 18, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT and a little late, but...

Finally got a chance to watch the Artest presser after last nights game. That was some seriously hilarious stuff.

by EMDarrow on Jun 18, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought it was interesting

That he admitted to tanking in his years with the Pacers, and that he felt he’d let everyone down, and that his never making it back was basically karmic justice. If it was, maybe the fact that he finally did it is proof that he’s moved on from those days, and his confession and seemingly sincere apology is some evidence.

by EMDarrow on Jun 18, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Quick

Would you start Silva against the Angels

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Ride that train until it crashes

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Angels down to an infield of

Napoli/Kendrick/Wood/Frandsen as Aybar is hurt and Maicer hits the DL.Ayber should follow shortly. If we don’t sweep them as payback I will be upset.

by meercatjohn on Jun 18, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I was leaning towards

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m half way to a quality start!!!

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know roughly how the Dodgers pitching is slated to map out when they play

the Giants in SF?

Trying to figure out which game to see and would rather not see the Carlos Monasterios Game if I can help it… (etc) I know it may be a little too early to tell because it depends on when Bills comes back, and so on.

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by underdog on Jun 18, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Bills should be back

probably depends on where they slot him

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just playing it out

Today – Monk
Sat – Padilla
Sun – Kuroda
Mon – OFF
Tue – Kershaw
Wed – Ely
Thu – Monk
6/25 – Padilla
6/26 – Kuroda
6/27 – Kershaw
6/28 at SF – Bills
6/29 at SF – Ely
6/30 at SF – Padilla

Could be something like that

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

No chance or need of a rehab assignment for Bills?

by kngoworld on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would happen during the 15 days

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Padilla, Kuroda, and Kershaw against the Yankees eh?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Kershaw and CC slated for Saturday

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

They could skip Ely on Wednesday, which would give us the classic Sabathia/Kershaw showdown I dreamed about.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Kuroda/Kershaw/Bills against the Yankees.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

will Bills be off the DL by then?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

June 27 is the first day he is eligible, yes

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

How often do the Dodgers make your dreams come true?

by kngoworld on Jun 18, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Sabathia on Saturday? Who else from the Yankees will the Dodgers get? I hope Burnett pitches one game.

by CarolinaDodger on Jun 18, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hughes on Friday, Burnett on Sunday.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they skip Monk and put Padilla on Thursday, my scenario also works.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basically, I don’t think both rookies will start next year.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t skip Monk, but can delay him. If they go Padilla Thursday and Kuroda Friday, Monk would have to pitch Saturday

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kershaw can’t pitch Saturday because he goes Tuesday. Sorry about that.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sad, I was hoping for CC and Kershaw…might even get tickets last minute. Cheapest were at $28 yesterday

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad Bills can’t come off the DL one day earlier

by CarolinaDodger on Jun 18, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

I guess I could watch ElyMania on Tuesday if it comes to that. :-) (Hoping for a return of ElyMania that is.)

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by underdog on Jun 18, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off topic

How many wins do you guys think Ubaldo will end up with this season? He’s at 13-1 right now, which is just ridiculous. I know we gave Silverwidow a hard time for saying Halladay is guaranteed 23-25 wins, but does anyone think Ubaldo will get to 25?

I looked at last season, and here were the win leaders from June 18 through the end of the season:
De La Rosa – 14
Sabathia – 13
Carpenter – 13
Wainwright – 12

Verlander -12
Felix – 12
Feldman – 12
Baker – 11
Vazquez – 11
Ubaldo – 10

Beckett – 10
Pineiro – 10
Lester – 10

Those were the guys with 10 wins from this point forward last season. I highlighted the NL guys (who get pinch hit for). Ubaldo seems like a lock for 20 wins, and a good bet to get into the 23-win range.

It does illustrate just how hard it is to get to that 23-25 win mark.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

How many wins did Penny have at the 06 and 07 All-star breaks? 11?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Penny was 10-2 at the break in 2006, and 10-1 in 2007

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's right

He could have won 20 games both of those years, why did he suck so bad in the 2nd half in 06? 07 he wasn’t bad, just not great.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, the all-star break is never at the 81-game mark so I don’t know if he was ever on pace to win 20.

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why I say he COULD have :P

He seriously could have in 2006 with how hot that team was in the second half.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ubaldo will get at least 8 more wins.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Once his numbers start to come back to earth the wins will come at a slower pace and the losses will start coming

Well, they will if he faces Kershaw more :D

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus, you have to figure he will face the Dodgers a few more times :)

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was watching SC last night

and when they put his 13-1 Record on the screen i pointed to the one and started laughing :)

But honestly, it just now hit me how insane his record is. Wow.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jun 18, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

23 is my guess too. I’m going to predict he ends up 23-5.

by CarolinaDodger on Jun 18, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Man the “celebrating” on the streets last night does not help my constant need to defend LA from people up north and across the country.

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

wasn’t Boston just as bad? I haven’t heard any stories about Laker fans throwing shit at the Celtics team bus

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that this year, or in the past?

by robotmadeofnails on Jun 18, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

in 2008

I remember the Lakers saying they were using it as motivation this year. Celtic fans threw rocks and bottles at the bus, even shook it a bit from what I remember.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 18, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sox lineup

Per @ScottLauber:

SS Scutaro
2B Pedroia
DH Ortiz
1B Youk
RF Drew
3B Beltre
C Varitek
CF Cameron
LF Nava

Doubront P

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 12:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Dodgers lineup

Kemp 8
Martin 2
Ethier 9
Ramirez DH
Blake 5
Loney 3
Belliard 4
Johnson 7
Carroll 6

by Eric Stephen on Jun 18, 2010 12:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

There is always someone missing when they play road games with DH last few years. It is like we never see them at full strength. Wish Furcal was here.

by delias man on Jun 18, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sleeper alert

Alexi Ogando. Nobody here has probably ever heard of him, but he has closer stuff. Texas has some sick arms.

by silverwidow on Jun 18, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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