Dodgers Running To Stand Still, Amazingly Drop Another Game, 2-1
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:08 PM PDT
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PrintOn a night they struggled to score runs, the Dodgers shot themselves in the feet tonight on the bases, making two crucial outs in the ninth inning, leading to yet another loss, this time 2-1 to the Angels, who are now 5-0 against the Dodgers this season.
It really was a stunning end to the game. One I'm still not sure exactly how it all happened. Let's take a look back at the carnage.
Trailing 2-1 in the ninth, the Dodgers put two runners on to start the inning against Brian Fuentes. After a Casey Blake strikeout, Russell Martin took three straight balls and the Dodger rally was in business. Then, one pitch after Martin took ball four strike one, Fuentes whirled toward second base and picked off Matt Kemp for the second out.
Martin walked, bringing Jamey Carroll to the plate with two on and two outs. Carroll lofted a fly ball single to left field which -- again, with runners going with two outs -- appeared to tie the game. However, not only was Reed Johnson jogging home, but Russell Martin veered too far past second base, and Martin was thrown out trying to slide back to second base, and he was tagged out before Johnson crossed the plate, ending the game with no tying tally.
"I thought we gave it away," Joe Torre said on Prime Ticket after the game, "I thought Russell Martin was safe at second base, but he can't put himself in peril like that."
John Ely had a very nice rebound start, pitching seven strong innings. He allowed just two runs, both after leadoff doubles and a misplay by Rafael Furcal, in his first game back in the lineup. In the fourth inning, with Kevin Frandsen on third base and one out, Torii Hunter grounded to Furcal, who was playing shallow. Frandsen was dead meat at the plate, but Furcal presumably thought the same thing and bobbled the ball, allowing both the run to score and Hunter to reach base.
In the fifth inning, Mike Napoli was on second base with nobody out and Jeff Mathis hit a grounder to Furcal, who held Napoli at second but threw wide to first. First base umpire Tim Welke ruled that James Loney's foot came off the bag, although replays seemed to indicate Loney had the ball with his foot on the bag. A sacrifice bunt and a groundout later, and the Angels had the go-ahead, unearned run.
However, a questionable call at first base is not an excuse why the Dodgers lost tonight. Horrible baserunning isn't the reason why they lost tonight. They lost because, unless it's the playoffs, they can't touch Joel Pineiro. For the third consecutive regular season start, he held the Dodgers to just one run, this time in 7 1/3 innings. Pineiro retired 14 in a row until a one-out walk to Andre Ethier brought the hook in the eighth inning. Pineiro has made five regular season starts against the Dodgers, has a 2.39 ERA, and his teams -- from Seattle to St. Louis to Anaheim -- have won all five games.
I smell a Larry Bowa tirade in three, two, one...
Notes
- Aside from getting picked off second base, Kemp had a very good game. He hit three rockets tonight, and was very close to two home runs. However, two found gloves and he ended up with an RBI double in four at-bats, and probably should have had two runs batted in but Manny Ramirez didn't score from first base with two outs in the third inning
- Andre Ethier had two hits for the second straight game
- Jonathan Broxton threw one pitch in the last nine days so, without a save situation tonight, he was brought in to pitch the eighth inning with the Dodgers down a run, just to get some work in. It was the first time Broxton entered the game to start the eighth inning since August 27, 2008 in Washington
- Charlie Haeger gets the unenviable task of trying to end the six-game losing streak and avoid a sweep tomorrow, against Scott Kazmir of the Angels. Luckily, thanks to Ely's outing tonight, the bullpen will is well rested should it be needed.
WP - Joel Pineiro (7-6): 7 1/3 IP, 6 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts
LP - John Ely (3-5): 7 IP, 3 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), 2 walks, 6 strikeouts
Sv - Brian Fuentes (12): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 walk, 1 strikeout
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Since per Torre
They specifically talked about Fuentes’ spin move before this game or the series, I think you really have to question what the heck Kemp is thinking out there.
something along the lines of..
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Also this:
when I was “cautiously pessimistic” that the Dodgers were due for some bad luck…
….this is what I was talking about.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
I was angry for the last 30 minutes
but lets look at the bright side Team USA had an amazing victory and tomorrow we get to see what bust .. . I mean player the Clippers will select 8th overall
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
Heh
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
can you quote joe on kemp if you have it handy? something about needing to play with our heads in the game.
it was stated that Fuentes has a move, just be careful of his spin around move, and we got caught. You need more than ability to play this game; you need to be able to think….and keep your head in the game
We certainly need to think a whole lot better than we did tonight.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
thats what i was referring to in my post in the previous thread. he didnt just come out and say kemp needs more than ability to play this game, he needs to think, he needs to keep his head in the game. he put it in his joe torre way and said ‘we’. anyways. he was obviously pissed at both kemp and martin, deservedly so.
Well right before that
When asked about Kemp he point blank said his previous comments where about Kemp and such.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
No problem
I think lightning missed the clock tower and hit second base tonight
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ely quote?
:-p
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
by nolander on Jun 23, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
He said the first quote twice, and emphasized it the second time after a reporter asked, “What about Kemp’s play?”
Torre said, “that’s what I’m talking about…”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
He should have never put himself in that position
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re right, he never should have been there, but he was safe. Blown calls only matter when it is a perfect game apparently.
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
all he had to do was to pull up at second and stand there. the throw was never going to go to home plate, he had a clear view of where reed was and where the left fielder was picking up the ball. if the ball did get thrown home for some dumb reason it would have been a terrible move to try and make it to third with 2 outs and him being the winning run. any way you look at it, it is terrible base running.
that one guy's reaction at 0:33 is hilarious
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I knew the US was gonna get screwed somehow...
They need more African teams in the next round… It didn’t matter in the end, though…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what
Angel stadium had 700+ health violations in a year. So suck on that, life.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
Not even close
This game doesn’t even even out the karma of winning 9 one-run games out of 11 a few weeks ago.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers are going to be paying for the no-hitter-but-still-winners-haw-haw game for years and years to come. Your children’s children’s children will say, “Yeah, that was an ugly loss to the Angels, but back in ought-eight, the Ddogers got no-hit and won! Haw haw!”
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
True..it may be hard to top that one...
Between that game and the Matt Holiday game…Dodgers have some karma to overcome for awhile.
Maybe we’re also playing for those “Wright missed 3B” and “Balk-off win” games, that kind of thing. The Dodgers have won their fair share of odd games, to be honest.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 24, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
To make up for tonight...
John Wall will drop… to the Lakers… Hehe
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
The Lakers trade Adam Morrison for the 1st pick in the draft
lol
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
I have very little interest in the NBA draft since they stopped allowing high schoolers to enter it...
Wall, Turner, Cousins should be really good NBA players.
Outside of that though, I dont really see a very strong draft. I’d like to see the Lakers draft Scheyer out of a Duke in the 2nd round. They can always use another shooter.
yeah he would be a great pick
given our lack of PG depth and since farmar and/or brown are probably leaving.
"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."
That 4 percent was the difference between the balk being called and martin being out at 2nd
SON OF A BITCH
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
In that case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5pmDgWMaU
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Hello from Beijing, China
A last check of things before we head home tomorrow (14 hours in the air, ugh!). Not happy to see we have lost 6 games in a row. Did get to watch the World Cup game vs Algeria, and it was an amazing finish. The World Cup is huge here. There are hords of people who gather outside at night to watch the game on huge TVs that are on the sides of large buildings downtown. The weather is hot, so there are many people outside at night time doing various activities. Heading out to the zoo to take my daughter to see the Panda’s on her birthday. Take care, see you all soon.
vr, Xeifrank
Does anybody know where Cash is gonna start?
Arizona, perhaps?
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
No plan yet but it’s pretty much going to be in AZL
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Based on recent history with high school pitchers
I would not expect him to pitch that much this season. (Maybe less than 30 IP)
by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
posted in the promotions thread but
a source on another board who’s been correct on player movement in the past says Sands got the call to AA. If anyone wants, they can fb friend request sands and ask him themselves…worked with aaron miller and kyle russell lolz
Yes
Finally some good news
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Their OF is gonna be crowded. I guess Sands will take over 1B.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
its on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejm6jn9AFA0
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I tried the glowstick thing once while drunk
I don’t think it worked so well
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I prefer The Sands of Time. But that might be too wordy.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Loved that game sooooooooo much
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I sent him an add request earlier :)
I also asked the Dodgers, but they haven’t yet confirmed the move
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
AA looks kinda loaded
or moreso since the Jacksonvile 5 back in 2005….
Withrow
Miller
Jensen
Russell
Sands
Gordon
to lesser extents
Van Slyke
Leach (as a starter)
St. Clair
They also have a white hot Tray, and Lambo will return eventually.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see production from Russell/Sands and on base skills from Gordon before getting too excited. But I love the pitchers at the top.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Russell so far in AA
54 Abs
.244/.288/.426
4bbs
23ks
His walks are really low.
I’m worried he’s swinging earlier in the count for fear of striking out.
Dodgers media site has Torre interview up
On the 9th inning plays:
Torre’s postgame interview:
http://multimedia.dodgers.com/audio/06_june/23%20June%20Joe%20Torre%20postgame%20raw%20.mp3
you can't tell him what to do
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
by nolander on Jun 23, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for sharing!
Torre’s right: Players need more than ability to play baseball.
grit and veteranacity to name a couple things
hmm veteranacity has a nice ring to it doesn’t it?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I have no ability to play baseball, but I'm smart as hell
should I be playing center field?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe an extreme
I’m gifted in common sense, should I be the 25th guy on the bench that is utilized in pinch running situations?
Oh wait, I’m fat.
I see nothing wrong with Torre’s comments
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 24, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Who does everyone think the Clippers take with pick 8?
I hope it is not a project Big man like Ed Davis, Udoh, or Aldrich. . . Instead I hope they take Paul George from Fresno State. . . hes a baller
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
In any draft on any sport
I’m always wary of late-risers…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
workout warriors assemble!
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Aminu most likely
If both Aminu and Monroe are available, they might pick Monroe.
If neither Monroe nor Aminu are available its wide open. They will not take Paul George. I really don’t see the fascination with a guy who didn’t dominate in the WAC last year compared to Luke Babbit who did dominate in the WAC. Anyway, maybe trade down or they take Hawyard or Babbitt. No chance they take Udoh, Aldrich or Davis. Unless Monroe falls, they will take a wing.
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
but to answer your question, he was 0 for 3
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Not trying to start anything
I just sincerely wanted to know. i had hopes he had actually gotten better.
Kemp did double in the only run. In a sick twisted sense, Kemp at least got the team within striking distance.
Kemp giveth, Kemp dumbeth away…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
He had potentially a great night offensively
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Nobody would be talking about the ninth inning if the Dodgers had come up with more than one measly run.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't sugar coat this
If Kemp doesn’t screw up and the Dodgers fail to score that is one thing. But with a 3-1 count and a chance to make to third with one out, he has to know the situation.
by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s possible to acknowledge both aspects of Kemp’s night
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sugar-coating it.
Kemp make a lousy play. Martin made a lousy play. Those kinds of plays are bad news for the Dodgers.
No one would be talking about those lousy plays if the game wasn’t hinging on them because the Dodgers managed more than one measly run.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I realize no one wants to talk about the NBA Draft
but take a look at the Clippers newest player. . . sprinkle in a little Rihanna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERcmFdlrrXY&feature=player_embedded
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions
He looks a less-athletic Marvin Williams… Take that analysis with a grain of salt…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Less-athletic. . .you see those crazy ass dunks
This looks like Trevor Ariza with an Offensive game
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok
A slightly less athletic… Marvin Williams is a terrific athlete…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
According to some websites...
The Clippers will draft Al-Farouq Aminu…
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
ewww I hope not
Clippers dont need another fringe big man
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope not
Clippers need a SF. . . this is the perfect fit. . Im gonna be real pissed if they pass on him. . . Hes a freaking stud
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Al-Farouq Aminu comparaison: Marvin Williams/Thaddeus Young
Paul George comparaison: Trevor Ariza/Danny Granger
Who is the better comparaison?
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
George has an easier chance to bust
But he also has the better chance at becoming a star. . . Some guy at yahoo sports was proclaiming him the best in the draft . . . which is saying things
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I see...
but he’s unlikely to be draft…
Anyway, another French talent will draft in the 1st round :D
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
Im still holding out! lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=AgbMFul1vnIXTTOxIWYGvpvPgq9?slug=ys-mockdraft1round062110
Does France have anyone special entering this year?
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Seraphin
20 years old, PF/C, from Cholet (France)…
His profile:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/kevin-seraphin
He has expected to be draft between 20th and 22nd pick in the 1st round… That means Spurs, Thunder or Trailblazers…
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
The PR Machine is going crazy for George
and it doesn’t make any sense. Who are these people comparing him to Kobe? His measurements weren’t great. HIs combine skills weren’t great. His college stats weren’t great and he played in the WAC. Why do people love this guy?
by Michael White on Jun 24, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Mariano Rivera pitched a scoreless 9th
and the Yankees scored to take the lead in the 10th.
Rivera has retired 24 straight batters (a career high), and is coming back out to finish the game.
of course AZ starts the 10th with single, double, and IBB
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Mariano Rivera somehow got out of bases loaded nobody out
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
SCY, Adam LaRoche, Mark Reynolds
SCY – fouls out to the catcher
Adam LaRoche popped up
Mark Reynolds does what he does, strikes out
by bhsportsguy on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Great improvement...
But no HR in June…
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
yep
looks like he hasn’t put the power together with the other positives. But it’s good to see him holding his own. AA was a big test for him because of how toolsy he was. I’m glad its currently translating over.
And he was little erratic on the basepaths, he has been caught a lot of times...
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
If he can cut down his strikeouts
This man is a stud
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess we have a lot of prospect on the OF in AA
Robinson
Lambo
Russell
Van Slyke
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
Either put Lambo in AAA
or demote Van Slyke .. if there is ever a squeeze for Ab’s
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
Not yet anyway. He is coming off a suspension. The last thing he needs is to face better pitching than he’s ever seen. I would move Sands to 1st or rotate the DH maybe. Tough call for us here.
AA pitching is better than AAA pitching
Most will say . .. and he would be going to an extremely hitters friendly park
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I would agree with you for the most part
My thoughts, and I’m probably wrong, is that AA pitchers are younger and maybe better than AAA arms. Guys in AAA are more polished and better “pitchers”. That was my thought when I wrote it. does that make any sense?
It made sense to me (run away! Be afraid); that was my thought as well
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt Kemp
I have always told my buddys that Matt Kemp has the tool to be the best player in MLB but he has the baseball brain of a tee ball player. He always makes stupid base running play. Not just the one from tonight but I can remember 2 or more times when he has made the third out at 3rd base trying to steal a base they teach you that stuff in little league. Then he gets bad jumps on a lot of ball in the outfield. I love Matt because he is a Dodger and I will always love my Dodgers but it is so frustrating to see him make the same kind of mental mistakes over and over again and not learn from them. I hope Joe sits both Matty and Russ tommorrow and sends the club a message that its time to get there heads out of there ass and start playing sound baseball
by Dodgermanramon on Jun 23, 2010 10:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
There's never been a question of Matt's tools
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
He always makes stupid base running play.
Per Bill James Online, Kemp gained 29 more bases than the average MLBer last season, after a +16 in 2008. This season is is 3 bases below average, so yes he has had a bad season so far, but now is not the time for hyperbole.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
can you look up how many time Matt has made the third out trying to steal 3rd base and how many times he has made the third out trying to turn a double into a triple those are the types of base running play or decisions that he make that i feel are horrible they teach you those thing in little league but i guess some people forget about them
by Dodgermanramon on Jun 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
This season
Kemp has not attempted to steal third base.
Outside of his 10 caught stealings before tonight, he has made a grand total of three outs on the bases.
He has taken the extra-base 55% of the time, against the league average of 53%.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i wasn’t just talking about this year i was talking about in his career i know for sure of a couple of times that he has tried to steal third base and has been caught making the 3rd out
by Dodgermanramon on Jun 23, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
i know for sure of a couple of times that he has tried to steal third base and has been caught making the 3rd out
Matt Kemp is nine for 11 in his career when trying to steal third base.
To reiterate, Kemp has been caught twice in his career (just 18.2% of the time) when trying to steal 3B.
Once was the third out; the other time was the second out.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
i knew there was a time he made the third out at 3rd base on a steal attempt i remember because i asked Ken Gurnick what Joe had thought about Matt making that base running blunder and Ken answer was something like Joe has had talks with Matt about his base running decisions
I always feel like you should only try to steal 3rd with two outs if and only if you are going to make it for sure the risk to reward is not worth it
by Dodgermanramon on Jun 23, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
cherry picking
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
1 time in 3+ years
isn’t exactly the point you were attempting to convey earlier
by keithc13 on Jun 24, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Impressive!!!!!!!!
Ely can do that maybe…
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
I would like to move on him
but knowing he will not sign without testing the market. Not gonna happen. Seattle wants players in return that we don’t have or players we are willing to give up. Man that sucks. i am a Cliff Lee fan.
Yeah I was just amazed at those numbers.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hes gonna be a yank or red sox next year
thats just my feeling
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee is fantastic. Wonder what clicked with him after he got demoted in 2007.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
His Dad told me he was embarrased.
I swear that is what he said. I only talked to him for about 5 minutes, but he said that it was a “wake up call”. He knew he had the stuff. He was scared that he was on his way out and would have to get a real job.
Cool story.
I wonder how much his knuckle curve helped turn his career around? That pitch is deadly.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody bother to get Jeremy Sowers out of Cleveland?
I mean, he is a lefty in Cleveland… Figures to take a shot in the dark…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I met the guy once.
He is from the town where I work. He and his Dad own a Deer Lease that a guy who works for me is a member of.
He’s not going to get CC money (in part because he’ll be 32 this winter) but I can see 4/72M as a starting point.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I could see a pitching starved team going 5 or possibly 6 years for him.
Wouldn’t be the smartest thing to do but I could see it happen.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Yeah, I think years will be the biggest question. He’s easily a 18-20M guy.
by silverwidow on Jun 23, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, I just saw Jim Tracy’s reaction to Jason Giambi’s home run, and I have to admit, it was pretty great.
PapelOWNED
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
should have been a balk, martin was safe. angels # 3 on the hate list
1- phillies
2- giants
3- angels. listening to their broadcast crew and seeing that ump job makes me sick.
It wasn’t a balk. It didn’t look pretty, but Fuentes stepped off the mound by the time of his hitch; it’s a legal move.
It doesn’t matter than Martin was safe or out; he fucked up by even putting himself within shouting distance of such a precarious position.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That needs to be changed then
He went all the way up then nearly all the way down then stepped off. I cannot see how in any way, shape, or form that it should be allowed.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
He’s fine as long as he doesn’t move toward the plate. I mean, it’s a close play, don’t get me wrong.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 23, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s just so damned frustrating. Everything about that game but the Kemp double is frustrating. Shoot, even that double had a moment because Manny couldn’t score on it.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Yeah
And Victor Rojas couldn’t stop harping on it… Idiot…
Sex addiction? Two words=get married.
by angelofdeath on Jun 23, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched the Angels broadcast last night because I forgot it was on Kcal
Big mistake.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
I was talking about Tuesday
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
He typed his comment last night though :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
*points to nose*
:)
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
They had what I thought was a decent crew once with Physioc and Hudler
I can’t stand anyone they have put in the booth since.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
yankees
got some extra tickets for fri and sunday’s games. contact me if you’re interested in going.
Somebody should date the 3rd Kardashian. We need their mojo
Lamar + Khloe = NBA Championship
Bush + Kim = Super Bowl
Kourtney + Any Dodger = WS Ring???
Kemp + Rhiana = 82-80 :(
Kemp + Rihanna = disaster. That much is clear.
Kourtney is by far my favorite of the 3. Billingsley? They’re close in age I’m guessing.
Billz is Married
I’d say Ely but Maddz would kill me
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Did we travel back in time to April? Bad defense, baserunning mistakes, the only difference is we also had no offense. I think both Martin and Kemp deserve a 1 game benching for two pretty stupid mistakes.
It was encouraging to see Ely have a nice bounce back game.
The two benchable plays
If any, were by Johnson and Manny, because theirs were mistakes of effort.
Martin and Kemp made two boneheaded plays but not benchable plays IMO, especially with how Kemp is swinging the bat.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 24, 2010 6:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
“Especially with how Kemp is swinging the bat?” Forgive me if I don’t want to call his slump over. Just Monday, on the off day, he was still definitely slumping. Since then, in two games, he’s gone 2 for 8. I will grant that those two hits have been a double and a home run and those things don’t happen by accident… still.
…I wouldn’t bench Kemp either, but more because I think he has to continue to work out of the slump, regardless of the boneheaded play.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 24, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet Russ sits today anyway
Ellis usually handles Haeger
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I completely agree
Though Manny won’t get benched for it, Johnson might miss some PT. Why in the holy fuck was he not running?
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Right
because we all want to see Ellis, Johnson AND Anderson out there. That’ll snap em out of it.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
that'll learn'em
honestly I think if anyone needs a day off it’s Casey Blake, he just looks tired and lost at the plate right now.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jun 24, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
The chances that we will win today’s game is pretty low. If a benching is in order, today is the day to do it.
Since Kemp and Bowa are on the outs and don’t talk,
when Kemp is on the bases, maybe Kemp should have an earpiece linked to Torre in the dugout.
Kemp could then be guided around the bases properly.
He would also know exactly what to do on defense.
Then Kemp won’t need to think.
by 68elcamino427 on Jun 24, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
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