Dodgers First Third of the Season: 2010 vs. 2009
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 8:21 AM PDT
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PrintWe have reached the 54-game mark of the season, and despite the rocky start the Dodgers are still on pace for 93 wins. Here's a look at the first third of the season this year, compared to last season.
Here's an overview of the team numbers:
| W-L | Runs For | Runs Allowed | BA/OBP/SLG | ERA | |
| 2010 | 31-23 | 254 (4.70/gm) | 246 (4.56/gm) | .264/.331/.403 | 3.98 |
| 2009 | 36-18 | 295 (5.46/gm) | 208 (3.85/gm) | .285/.367/.414 | 3.75 |
Here is the breakdown position by position. I tried to matchup the new players with their 2009 counterparts, although not everyone matches up perfectly.
Catcher |
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| Russell Martin | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 47 | 46 | 173 | 23 | 46 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 29 | 7/3 | .266/.377/.318 | .695 |
| 2010 | 51 | 46 | 181 | 28 | 44 | 6 | 0 | 4 | 13 | 23 | 3/1 | .243/.340/.343 | .682 |
| Brad Ausmus | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 11 | 8 | 35 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 1/0 | .314/.368/.343 | .711 |
| 2010 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0/0 | .250/.250/.500 | .750 |
| A.J. Ellis | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2010 | 9 | 7 | 23 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 2 | 0/0 | .217/.269/.261 | .530 |
Infield |
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| James Loney | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 54 | 51 | 208 | 24 | 59 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 41 | 22 | 3/1 | .284/.348/.370 | .718 |
| 2010 | 54 | 51 | 210 | 31 | 60 | 15 | 1 | 4 | 32 | 13 | 7/3 | .286/.323/.424 | .747 |
| Blake DeWitt / Orlando Hudson | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (Hudson) | 54 | 54 | 216 | 39 | 71 | 17 | 2 | 3 | 32 | 32 | 4/0 | .329/.410/.468 | .878 |
| 2010 (DeWitt) | 44 | 42 | 143 | 15 | 37 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 14 | 18 | 0/0 | .259/.342/.357 | .698 |
| Rafael Furcal | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 46 | 42 | 189 | 27 | 47 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 11 | 18 | 3/3 | .249/.314/.307 | .621 |
| 2010 | 29 | 26 | 118 | 18 | 33 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 9 | 8/1 | .280/.328/.364 | .693 |
| Casey Blake | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 49 | 44 | 164 | 27 | 49 | 12 | 1 | 9 | 34 | 18 | 0/0 | .299/.374/.549 | .922 |
| 2010 | 50 | 45 | 178 | 21 | 49 | 12 | 1 | 7 | 27 | 15 | 0/1 | .275/.343/.472 | .815 |
| Ronnie Belliard / Mark Loretta | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (Loretta) | 38 | 10 | 59 | 11 | 17 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 11 | 0/0 | .288/.408/.339 | .747 |
| 2010 (Belliard) | 34 | 15 | 67 | 10 | 18 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 10 | 10 | 0/1 | .269/.359/.418 | .777 |
| Jamey Carroll / Juan Castro | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (Castro) | 19 | 12 | 44 | 12 | 15 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 5 | 0/0 | .341/.400/.455 | .855 |
| 2010 (Carroll) | 46 | 35 | 120 | 20 | 36 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 22 | 3/0 | .300/.397/.325 | .722 |
| Nick Green / Blake DeWitt | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (DeWitt) | 9 | 3 | 17 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0/0 | .176/.222/.176 | .399 |
| 2010 (Green) | 5 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0/0 | .125/.222/.125 | .347 |
| Doug Mientkiewicz | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 7 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0/0 | .400/.400/.600 | 1.000 |
Outfield |
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| Andre Ethier | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 52 | 49 | 188 | 31 | 49 | 12 | 0 | 7 | 31 | 27 | 3/0 | .261/.363/.436 | .799 |
| 2010 | 37 | 34 | 143 | 25 | 52 | 12 | 0 | 11 | 38 | 14 | 0/0 | .364/.424/.678 | 1.102 |
| Matt Kemp | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 53 | 51 | 200 | 33 | 62 | 9 | 4 | 6 | 30 | 21 | 12/2 | .310/.377/.485 | .862 |
| 2010 | 54 | 54 | 220 | 44 | 61 | 13 | 2 | 11 | 31 | 21 | 7/8 | .277/.340/.505 | .845 |
| Manny Ramirez | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 27 | 27 | 92 | 22 | 32 | 9 | 0 | 6 | 20 | 26 | 0/0 | .348/.492/.641 | 1.133 |
| 2010 | 36 | 29 | 110 | 15 | 30 | 6 | 0 | 4 | 25 | 18 | 0/1 | .273/.371/.436 | .808 |
| Reed Johnson / Juan Pierre | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (Pierre) | 46 | 30 | 140 | 27 | 53 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 21 | 13 | 11/4 | .379/.439/.493 | .932 |
| 2010 (Johnson) | 42 | 18 | 83 | 8 | 25 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 1/1 | .301/.330/.410 | .739 |
| Garret Anderson / Jamie Hoffmann | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 (Hoffmann) | 9 | 3 | 17 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0/0 | .176/.158/.471 | .628 |
| 2010 (Anderson) | 44 | 13 | 84 | 4 | 13 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 3 | 0/0 | .155/.180/.238 | .418 |
| Xavier Paul | |||||||||||||
| G | GS | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SB/CS | BA/OBP/SLG | OPS | |
| 2009 | 11 | 2 | 14 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0/1 | .214/.313/.500 | .813 |
| 2010 | 20 | 14 | 57 | 9 | 16 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 3/0 | .281/.328/.404 | .731 |
Starting Pitchers
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| Chad Billingsley | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 11 | 11 | 6-3 | 74.0 | 58 | 25 | 23 | 32 | 76 | 2.80 | 1.216 |
| 2010 | 11 | 11 | 6-2 | 65.0 | 64 | 31 | 27 | 22 | 61 | 3.74 | 1.323 |
| Clayton Kershaw | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 10 | 10 | 3-3 | 56.0 | 40 | 27 | 27 | 32 | 55 | 4.34 | 1.286 |
| 2010 | 11 | 11 | 5-3 | 64.0 | 48 | 22 | 21 | 37 | 72 | 2.95 | 1.328 |
| John Ely / Randy Wolf | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Wolf) | 12 | 12 | 3-1 | 75.2 | 64 | 30 | 27 | 22 | 58 | 3.21 | 1.137 |
| 2010 (Ely) | 7 | 7 | 3-2 | 46.0 | 35 | 13 | 13 | 8 | 37 | 2.54 | 0.935 |
| Hiroki Kuroda | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 2 | 2 | 1-1 | 10.2 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 2.53 | 1.031 |
| 2010 | 11 | 11 | 5-4 | 69.1 | 77 | 38 | 28 | 20 | 47 | 3.63 | 1.399 |
| Charlie Haeger / Eric Stults | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Stults) | 9 | 9 | 4-2 | 45.0 | 46 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 30 | 4.80 | 1.578 |
| 2010 (Haeger) | 7 | 5 | 0-4 | 23.1 | 28 | 26 | 22 | 20 | 23 | 8.49 | 2.057 |
| Vicente Padilla / Eric Milton | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Milton) | 3 | 3 | 2-0 | 14.1 | 15 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 3.14 | 1.395 |
| 2010 (Padilla) | 4 | 4 | 1-1 | 21.2 | 25 | 18 | 16 | 6 | 23 | 6.65 | 1.431 |
Relievers
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| Jonathan Broxton | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 23 | 5-0 | 12 | 26.0 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 41 | 1.38 | 0.692 |
| 2010 | 24 | 3-0 | 13 | 24.1 | 19 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 35 | 1.11 | 0.904 |
| Hong-Chih Kuo | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 7 | 0-0 | -- | 5.1 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6.75 | 1.688 |
| 2010 | 15 | 0-1 | -- | 13.2 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 19 | 1.32 | 0.659 |
| Ramon Troncoso | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 21 | 1-0 | 3 | 33.1 | 31 | 7 | 7 | 10 | 22 | 1.89 | 1.230 |
| 2010 | 28 | 1-1 | -- | 25.2 | 23 | 15 | 13 | 9 | 15 | 4.56 | 1.247 |
| Ronald Belisario | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 26 | 1-2 | -- | 31.1 | 22 | 10 | 8 | 15 | 30 | 2.30 | 1.181 |
| 2010 | 21 | 0-0 | -- | 19.2 | 16 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 15 | 5.49 | 1.322 |
| Carlos Monasterios / Cory Wade | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Wade) | 18 | 0 | 0-3 | 18.2 | 19 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 13 | 4.82 | 1.500 |
| 2010 (Monasterios) | 14 | 3 | 2-0 | 33.2 | 27 | 9 | 7 | 8 | 17 | 1.87 | 1.040 |
| Jeff Weaver | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 9 | 3 | 3-1 | 26.2 | 29 | 12 | 12 | 15 | 18 | 4.05 | 1.650 |
| 2010 | 22 | 0 | 3-1 | 16.1 | 13 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 11 | 3.86 | 1.102 |
| Russ Ortiz / Guillermo Mota | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Mota) | 20 | 2-1 | -- | 20.2 | 26 | 15 | 15 | 12 | 10 | 6.53 | 1.839 |
| 2010 (Ru.Ortiz) | 6 | 0-1 | -- | 7.0 | 10 | 8 | 8 | 5 | 6 | 10.29 | 2.143 |
| Ramon Ortiz / James McDonald | |||||||||||
| G | GS | W-L | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (McDonald) | 10 | 4 | 1-1 | 18.2 | 17 | 14 | 14 | 16 | 9 | 6.75 | 1.768 |
| 2010 (Ra.Ortiz) | 16 | 2 | 1-2 | 30.0 | 33 | 22 | 21 | 16 | 21 | 6.30 | 1.633 |
| George Sherrill / Brent Leach | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Leach) | 13 | 1-0 | -- | 8.0 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 10 | 5.62 | 1.375 |
| 2010 (Sherrill) | 22 | 0-1 | 0 | 14.2 | 18 | 13 | 12 | 15 | 10 | 7.36 | 2.250 |
| Scott Elbert | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 | 3 | 1-0 | -- | 6.1 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 7.11 | 1.737 |
| 2010 | 1 | 0-0 | -- | 0.2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 13.50 | 6.000 |
| Justin Miller / Will Ohman | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2009 (Ohman) | 21 | 1-0 | 1 | 12.1 | 12 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 5.84 | 1.622 |
| 2010 (Miller) |
3 | 0-0 | -- | 5.1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 0.00 | 0.563 |
| Travis Schlichting | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2010 | 1 | 1-0 | -- | 4.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00 | 1.000 |
| Jon Link | |||||||||||
| G | W-L | Sv | IP | H | R | ER | BB | K | ERA | WHIP | |
| 2010 | 3 | 0-0 | -- | 2.1 | 4 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 7.71 | 3.000 |
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Great stuff
Btw, this is from Sickels’ final mock draft:
28) Dodgers: Peter Tago, RHP, Dana Hills HS, Laguna Beach, California: Tago is making a late run up draft boards and has the kind of high school pitcher package that could intrigue the Dodgers.
I don’t like his delivery. Doesn’t strike me as as Logan 1st round pitcher.
The guy who DOES, however, is Dylan Covey from Pasadena Maranatha HS. He’s projected to go earlier the 28 but he struggled a bit recently. This guy is big and physical with well above average breaking stuff — that’s the key to all top Dodger picks.
Covey is a bit too close to McCovey for my tastes
Dylan Covey also sounds like the name of a young actress on some one-hour drama that I wouldn’t watch. Starring Dylan Covey as Rachelle, the popular homecoming queen with a secret past.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I always had a lot of respect for both Mays and McCovey, and would have been happy at either becoming a Dodger. The rest of them, I hated them all.
by KellyStephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Good review
Interesting to see Broxton’s WHIP differences. He seems to be giving up more hits this year. Kuroda’s numbers are good this year, but man, last year he was on fire.
OT…but does it seem like Ethier and Martin have become a bit hot headed? Those strike calls last night looked reasonable to me, and then Russel’s banter with Drew…just seems like these guys need to release some stress.
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions
I think Martin has always played with a chip on his shoulder. If he’s not hitting, I don’t mind if he’s our “heart and soul.” (He was a little out of line with Drew, but Drew’s Drew.) As for Ethier, I think he’s finally reached his own personal potential and wants badly to stay at that level. These guys got a strong whiff of the Wrold Series the last two years and that is the only goal that matters.
Russell J Martin: Bringing Canadian Grit to America’s Pastime
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it even called grit in Canada?
At the very least it seems like it should have an “eh” on the end or something.
They’re petitioning the UN to change their nomenclature to be “The Gritty White North.” Now drink your Moulson Ex and eat the rest of your Poutine like a real man, eh!
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think you have to petition the UN to change your country name unless you steal the name from one of your neighbors
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s not what West Virginia told me!
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
This is rough
but for the starting outfield, Kemp has been the same, and Manny & Ethier have switched roles, but for the most part the first 54-game production is similar.
2009: 566 PA, 143 hits, 86 runs, 30 doubles, 4 triples, 19 homers, 81 RBI, 74 walks, 104 K, .298/.396/.496, .892 OPS
2010: 534 PA, 143 hits, 84 runs, 31 doubles, 2 triples, 26 homers, 94 RBI, 53 walks, 96 K, .302/.373/.541, .914 OPS
Can Manny's numbers really be trusted?
Or is it 2009 overall? Because otherwise, isn’t he missing a chunk of games up to this point in the season last year?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Numbers are just lies and red herrings
everyone knows its grit and gamerness that determines a player’s worth
The Talking Head say
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don’t do what I want them to
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jun 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
If I have nothing to say
my lips are sealed!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
That’s a good way to start a Nerd Revolt, sir!
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Jamie Carroll for President
Reed Johnson for VP
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Sorry, I'm about 2/7 awake right now
I was wondering if the numbers from 2009 are to this point in the season or are from the whole 2009 season. So, if the numbers listed above are the season up to this point in 2009, then wouldn’t Manny’s numbers be a bit skewed because he was out for 50 games?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Yes
The numbers are through the first 54 games of both years.
Manny served half of his suspension through the first 54 games last year, but it is offset by both Manny and Ethier being on the DL so far this season.
its 940am...
i want to be able to just wake up at 940 am on a friday. I miss college and 4 day school weeks :(
Yeah, I know it's 9:40 am.
I have been at work since 7 am. It’s not going very well.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I don't test anymore
but woe to the person who is sleep deprived that tries to test video games. It’s like a glass of warm milk. You’re done, son.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I wish I had that terrible, terrible duty.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
If it involves testing them
Then I would pass
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I wouldn't have a problem
Or so I think right now.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Video game tester is one of the most vile jobs in the universe
Even if you get to test a good game, chances are while you are testing it it is very much not a good game.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
2/7 ?
Interesting choice. How do you gauge that?
“At this rate, I would get about 2 days work done this week instead of 7 days?”
“I should be producing a touchdown today, but all I will get is a conceded safety?”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Guesstimation, mostly.
At this time, I would like to acknowledge that math is not my strong suit. I would get sent out of math class regularly on “walks”, because I was too obnoxious/HILARIOUS to stay in the class for the entire period. I have no idea how I passed the first two years of high school math. Absolutely none.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Just not that many things that are thought about in groups of seven
You needed a math tutor, probably a female one like my daughter. HS teachers have classes that are too large to deal with students that aren’t in the center of the bell curve.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Myself,
I am approximately 3/13 awake. But the coffee is kicking in, and by the time I finish this sentence, I should be 7/27 awake.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
You live in a world
where 42 is the answer to “what do you get when you multiply 9 and 6?”, so I am not stunned that you would estimate in 13ths and 27ths.
For us math types, 9 × 6 = 42 in base 13. Did Douglas Adams mean that the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is that we are frequently, or doomed to being, unlucky? Or, in other words, stuff happens?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
stuff happens
Yep. As I like to say, everything happens for a reason, except all those times when things happen for no reason.
But since you’ve brought up Base 13, now I have Tom Lehrer on the brain. You can’t take three from two, two is less than three, so you look at the four in the tens place. Now that’s really four tens, so you make it three tens, regroup and change the ten to ten ones, and you add ‘em to the two and get twelve and take away three, that’s nine. Now instead of four in the tens place, you’ve got three, ‘cause you added one, that is to say, ten, to the two, but you can’t take seven from three, so you look at the hundreds place. From the three you then use one, and you know why four plus minus-one plus ten is fourteen minus one….
…’cause addition is commutative, right…..
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Tom Lehrer on the brain is never a bad thing
I always get an extra laugh on that particular song because we used that kind of textbook when I was in grade school in the late 60s / early 70s and I remember doing the base 8 problems to this day.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Well...
I was probably more in the middle of the bell curve than some people…I just had teachers that were really good at teaching the students who naturally understood it.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Yeah, she should go by a more normal number, like things out of 12. I am 2/12 the way done with work today.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
or 1/6.
See, I can reduce fractions.
IN YOUR FACE.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I have no doubt that ten years from now, in the year 2020,
for the first third of the season John Ely will replicate his statistics from 2010 exactly. John Ely is so consistent that people watching him pitch are able to give up Ex Lax for their irregularity.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes, I am using Eric’s typo for cheap joke. I’m not above such things.
But I would never have texted my brother about last night’s Lakers game if I knew in advance he would be watching delayed on Tivo.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It was a misread of a text on my part
I could have sworn I saw “I’ll be live in about 10 minutes” and texted him a good hour or so after that.
Yeah, that was just mean.
FOR SHAME, ERIC. FOR SHAME.
I believe I have a Bodhi picture that would accurately convey Kelly’s facial expression. If Kelly were a cat.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I'll bet Kelly has been called something like "a cat" by his brothers
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I set you up for that one
I’m sorry, Kelly. :(
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Hanging slider of comments, my eyes lit up
Or as you put it the other day, you Chan Ho-ed that one.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If it said
“If Dave were a cat”, could you pass that up? You’d be all over that, like Kemp on Rihanna.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
that cat looks like its ready to attack!
is it yours?
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 4, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
that’s my cat alright. Doing an imitation of a brother receiving another brother’s text.
Actually, he just had crazy eyes and was sitting directly underneath me as I was crocheting something.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I imagine that’s the same facial expression the Bison uses when he recieves a text from Rhianna…
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm.
That’s a pretty alarmed facial expression.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Matt, Bison, honey
I’m late.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You sound just like my sister
so you sound like you are 76 years old. :)
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Awww, that's sweet
I’m actually 78. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
haha. What do you like to crochet? My sister makes scarves, caps, and other stuff like that.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Actually, no.
I do scarves and afghans, mostly.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Omg!
My sister wants to make one of my cats a bow tie because he looks like a penguin…I cannot wait for that!
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Awesome
When that cat meows, does it sound like “waa waa waa”?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wow
Either lasertag has been around a lot longer then I thought or you’re the hottest senior citizen in the history of ever. :)
Hahahah
I’m 23. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Oh just kidding then
I’m 45!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
We can have a dance party to commemorate the occasion.
I’m still around DT, sometimes. Under Tintinnabula, beacuse some enterprising soul stole my name. :(
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I think Lvtown is younger
and LakerDodgers4Ever is like 16 so that torch was passed long ago.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
BUT BUT...I WAS THE BEST RIGHT?!?!
I mean….2005..JACKSONVILLE 5!?!? remember that site where we should watch those games?
haha. oh how i spent my youth.
I was the Dodger pimp when I was 16
Posting to the Dodger Usenet group about how the EK haters were idiots, and Chad Fonville was clearly the greatest Dodger ever. Ah, the ignorance of youth.
Exactly
Last time I peeked in, it was mostly some idiot posting as recently dead people, saying their last words were “Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame.”
Might’ve been mildly humorous once, but he’s been doing it 4-5 times/day for several years now.
worth accessing
but only if you are looking for pron.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I’m not young, I’m 20 :D
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Then clearly you're not a man yet
Just ask Mike Gundy.
Lol, my friends are in love with that video
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Your cat is so awesome, haha
I’ve gotta get a picture up of my oldest cat. My sister took a picture of him with her sun glasses on and it’s hilarious.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
This picture is what Bohdi is reacting to I'm sure
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
That cat is so scene.
Did you get that off its myspace page?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Now THIS cat is into high fashion
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
hahahaha
that’s cute.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Yankee Stadium
Went to the O’s-Yankees game yesterday. I found the new stadium incredibly mammoth, clean, and friendly—no less than four ushers encouraged me to go down closer to the field, Can’t beat the subway to the game either. On the other hand, it was surprisingly antiseptic and removed from the neighborhood, almost like one of the old cookie cutters. But what I wanted to mention were the thousands of late arriving and early departing fans—I thought only Dodger fans showed up late, and it never filled up. Maybe they’re all mad at McCourt too ;-)
Fight the power! Votes for Ethier, none for Phillies.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jun 4, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions
Nice
The stadium sure likes nice on TV, but it’s always hard to know how the stadium feels from afar.
This part surprises me the most
no less than four ushers encouraged me to go down closer to the field
I didn’t imagine employees would encourage seat jumping, although seat-jumping would seem to go hand in hand with a New York state of mind.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
seat-jumping would seem to go hand in hand with a New York state of mind
These seats will make you feel brand new
Those huge video screens will inspire you….
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
even though I hate that song
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I was debating whether to go with that or Billy Joel.
I hate Billy Joel’s music with a violent passion that burns with the fire of a thousand suns. If I go to hell, the soundtrack will be “Greatest Hits Vol I & II.” It is a telling sign that today’s musicians are inspired by all sorts of heroes of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, from Brian Wilson to Kris Kristofferson to Elton John — but nobody cites Billy Joel as an influence.
Billy Joel. To speak his name is fingernails on a blackboard; it is to give voice to the silent scream; it is death and nothingness rolled into cheesy pop hits from a generation ago.
So I went with the other song.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I just can't stand Alicia Keys anymore.
And Jay’s flow got…weird. No me gusta.
I only like one Billy Joel song. And it’s not Piano Man.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
This will come as a surprise to nobody, but I love “Piano Man.”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Imagine if they played that
instead of Don’t Stop Believing at DS.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Good Lord, people
What kind of evil fate are you tempting?!
Piano Man. It’s like a drill bit in the brain — once it gets in, it never gets out and neither thing works right anymore.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I was in college, my cousin and I went to a Padres/Giants game at Qualcomm Stadium (I don’t remember if it was still called Jack Murphy Stadium then). At some point late in the game, there was an inning break or maybe an extra-long pitching change, and the stadium played Piano Man.
We were sitting in the outfield, and amazingly, a large group of people, including me and my cousin, were singing along. They got quite deep into the song, and by the time the second chorus came around, more and more people joined in, and we as a group got louder and more awesome.
That, my friends, was a moment.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
……………and then, a man was forced to slaughter thousands.
And the name of that man was Humma Kavula.
And now……. you know the rest of the story.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
first concert I went to was Billy Joel
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Part of my Billy Joel hate
is the fact that I went to Brandeis. “Greatest Hits Vol 1 & 2” could have been handed out in our welcome bags or forcibly embeded in our brains.
There’s only so many times that you can hear “Uptown Girl” before a kitten must be punched.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw Elton John and Billy Joel 10 years ago at the Forum
One of my first concerts as well. I’m a fan of Billy, could take Elton or leave him.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Elton John, to the guilty pleasure point,
but I get the feeling he would wallow in the Billy Joel mire if he didn’t have good lyricists, producers and advisers around him. (No guilty in the pleasure of his earlier work though.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Eff' it...
Here you go
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I have been known
to sing along to “Piano Man” in bars that encourage such things. Probably at least 13/27 of the way to three sheets to the wind at that point though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Me to
and when I read diatribes like Humma’s about an artist who is not edgy, but popular I just see a nose sticking up in the air. Not like Billy Joel created Bennie and Jets, the real song that plays over and over in hell.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
you just hate it
because the Lakers PA uses the piano intro as a cheer.
Any time you comment on that song it makes me laugh. I really don’t understand the hate. Such a nothing song!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Favorite Billy Joel songs
Goodnight Saigon
We Didn’t start the fire
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
The song I like
is Matter of Trust.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
1. Poor.
2. Downright awful. WTF is the point there? It’s “Life is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)” of recent history.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Heh.
I think We didn’t start the fire is catchy.
I also like the Lady Gaga song “Alejandro” so I don’t exactly have a real discriminating ear.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
That song is so unapologetically Ace of Base it’s not even funny.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
This is the point where I raise my hand again.
I Saw The Sign
Don’t Turn Around
All That She Wants
Yeah, I love those songs.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I have never heard a Lady Gaga song
at least that I know of. I take it that that is a good thing?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Well I like the music. Again, I find it catchy.
I think its safe to say I’ll be one of the few on this board that does though.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Ha.
I would say, my love of sports is like the most masculine thing about me. It’s all downhill from there.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
It has nothing to do with Blake Lively? ;)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I resisted watching it for a while
Basic theme in my house.
Wife starts watching a show I don’t want to watch. Finally I say that she can watch it while I play on the PSP. Weeks go by and I start asking questions about what’s going on. A month or so in, and I’m watching these shows and netflixing season 1 so I get the back story on what the hell is going on.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Was it wrong for me to notice Blake Lively while watching
“The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants” with my daughter?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
No, she's gorgeous.
They call her “Boobs Legsly” on gofugyourself because of her penchant for showing both of those things whenever she hits the red carpet.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I prefer the other lead character
Blair.
Not sure her real name.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Leighton Meester
She’s fuggin hot.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Yeah, but her character in that movie
is like 17.
We saw that movie at a premiere at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood. Several cast members were there, but I don’t remember seeing her after the film let out. Amber Tamblyn is pretty thin in person, but more cool for me was seeing her dad Russ in person.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I like that show as well <.< >.>
My ex got me into it, but it’s actually not bad.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Super machismo is overrated.
THERE. I SAID IT. AND I AM NOT SORRY.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
by Maddz on Jun 4, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
As an old, small, soft, and happily married guy
I approve that message.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
says the man with the handle
indicating his complete possession by his woman! ;)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Telephone is great.
And Bad Romance got under my skin after a while.
I suddenly like A Perfect Circle. I think I might be dying…
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Liking A Perfect Circle
is a terminal disease? Crap, I must not be long for this world.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Oh no, not at all.
I just don’t really like Tool. So I was surprised to find myself liking something by Maynard, even if it was a side project. I’m usually into…less heavy rock.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I think it is fine to say that Lady Gaga is talented.
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I downloaded, at the behest of my nephew’s wife, four Lady Gaga songs for Rock Band, and I have to say, the woman’s songs have good hooks.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't start the fire
Was written so they could play it in US history class.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
that's where i first heard it..
7th grade history class with Ms. Thompson.
Ms. Thompson had a ’stache and was a dyke.
Speaking of Thompson
“Hold Me Now” by the Thompson Twins is the quintessential 1980s song. Outstanding.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
That song
comes very close to making me physically ill. Automatic station-changer.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
So
she wasn’t the teacher that turned you into the cougar-lover of today.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
there's always one
except in my classes.
Now, my youngest brother’s sixth grade teacher, Ms. Kemp, on the other hand….
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
We had one smokeshow of a teacher in highschool
Mrs. Ordona. She was a hottie. And her husband? GOOD GOD. He looked like Johnny Depp.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I knew an Ordorna
and she was hot.
How many students in High School have seen their teachers spouses? Football games?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
She didn't come to the football games, sadly.
I was at every single one. But her husband was an actor and also did journalism, so he had opportunity to drop by campus to do academic related things.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
All of my English teachers where beasts
Don’t feel too left out.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Mrs Steece, 9th grade English
She was hot. young, blonde, and would sit on her desk in a skirt. She is what Van Halen was singing about.
Best part, she gave up trying to teach me English and just let me read in her class.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
My 12th grade writing teacher, Jenna Jameson, was all right.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll assume this was
when she was still hot and not insane.
Don't blame her
dealing with high school kids for a living would drive anyone insane!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
So she's the reason
for worse/worst. :)
My tenth grade English teacher thought she was hot, but she wasn’t. She also had that funny walk in heels where her knees were never fully unbent, so she looked awkward.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
My only "Hot for Teacher" moment
was 4th grade, Ms Nebo. Of course, at the time I was too young to truly grasp the significance. The rest of my teachers were either male, or counting the days till their senior citizen discounts kicked in.
8th grade English class
my teacher was a little crazy, and she made everyone sing a song in front of the class to start each day. She would randomly pick someone, and you would have to have a song already memorized and ready to go.
The two songs I sang that year:
1) We Didn’t Start The Fire
2) One More Minute (Weird Al)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That's...that's awful and hilarious at the same time.
Given that chance now, I would sing Karate by Tenacious D. :D
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
You could always, you know
like…start another topic of conversation. ;)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
If I had to do that
I would almost certainly sing my own parody of Elton John’s “Your Song”…
Humma’s original lryics:
It’s a little bit funny, our underwear
Boxers or briefs, I asked — you didn’t care
But as for you, babe, there was just one choice
When I saw that butt floss, I lost my voice
And now you show everybody that you wear a thong
Peekin’ out above your waistband, somehow it seems wrong
I guess you don’t mind, I guess you don’t mind, that the whole world can see
The fabric you pull down when you’ve got to pee
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
My latest parody
Is for my kid. She loves Raffi’s “Baby Beluga.” So I wrote a parody about the most famous beluga in history!
Moby beluga in the deep blue sea
From hell’s heart, I stab at thee
I’ve got Ishmael and I’ve got Queequeg
All because you took my leg
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Two Christmases ago I wrote a parody of Billy Joel: “He’s Always a Snowman To Me” about Frosty the Snowman.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
My daughter loved that song too
The other Raffi song I remember her liking was Bananaphone.
I hope you have video of you singing your alternate lyrics to her.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
She says, “Daddy, that’s not the words! No! No! No!”
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Raffi is TIMELESS.
I loved him too.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Would one really nasty rap
have ended that heinous practice? Who wants to hear voice-cracking 8th grade boys sing anyway?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Two friends and I wrote a rap that year to do a report on Johnny Tremain. Same class. Scored an A (to quote the Encyclopedia Brittanica kid)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
In hindsight, I should have done “Biggest Ball of Twine in Minnesota,” also by Weird Al. It is nearly six minutes of awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
In 8th grade I probably would have sung something by Rage Against the Machine…and then I would never be called on again
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
right about the time I got to “I’d rather rip out my intestines with a fork” my teacher made me stop One More Minute because she said it was “too vulgar”, but later let me finish.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What about cleaning all the bathrooms in Grand Central Station with your tongue?
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
My brother saw them at Coachella
and then was asking me, “Oh, have you heard of Rage Against the Machine?”
I nearly strangled him.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I went to two concerts back in high school…they were awesome
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. He's 17 now.
So it was kind of new to him at that point since I don’t think he listened to KROQ (he still doesn’t, he listens to KCRW now).
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I would listen to Rage Against the Machine, but it seems like so much work.
the band I want is Sit Quietly on Your Fucking Couch and Drink Away the Pain.
Waitaminute… that band is probably best exemplified by Billy Joel. Fuck!
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, my song of choice at that the 8th grade probably would have been “Nobody Move” sung by Eric Lynn Wright
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I would have loved to do “Parental Discretion Iz Advised” (all five parts)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Dr. Dre on that album: “I still express that I don’t smoke weed or cess.”
Less than four years later, he releases “The Chronic”
I didn’t even know who he was anymore :)
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew I was old when....
I have my ringtone off that album and some kid was standing next to me when my phone went off at the store, and he told his friend that shit is old school!
I used to joke
in high school that it is going to be hilarious when “oldies” stations start playing gangster rap.
Your encounter encapsulated that thought nicely.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Flagged for inappropriate content, sir!
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would have been an interesting class
after she heard me sing, she would have given me a pass.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
In my 8th grade English class we did pseudo-music videos
by using drawings and cut out magazine photos on scrolled paper that could actually be projected. They were projected to the songs we picked out. My friend and I did “Kodachrome” by Paul Simon (which was a recent hit then) expressly for the opening line “When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school” (our campus was 7thg – 12th grade). We got a B, I think because we forget that in the fade out he sings “leave your boy so far from home” in the fade out that was not in the printed lyrics and we didn’t have a picture change for that.
Nowhere near as edgy as the proposed raps above.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Hmmm.
My 8th grade English teacher hated me. I have no idea why.
Our marching band used to sing “Paul Revere” and “Baby Got Back” during football games. That’s not very edgy, either.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Crap, just reading this thread has put “We Didn’t Start the Fire” in my head
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
“Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac…”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh
Among the six compact discs in my car at this very moment, ready to be played: “The Stranger.”
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
You should take that disc
And use it for CD distance-flinging experiments.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I did that with the DVD
of “Little Miss Sunshine.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
As a backup in case I am not listening to my iPod
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Not in the car, though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sometimes I play my wax cylinders. Vinyl cheapens the listening experience.
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by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course, one of the other six is a compilation of my favorite Weird Al songs, so take that with a grain of salt.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm also
anti Billy Joel. We went to a Elton John / Billy Joel concert last year, and I will say that Billy is a pretty good entertainer, but his songs do nothing for me.
“I’m not changing to try and please you,
I want to sound like Elton John,
Woo-oo, oo-oo-oo….”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Just remember
working too hard can give you a heart attack ack ack ack ack ack ack
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Somewhere I have a list of stuttering songs
such as “My Generation”, “Changes” and “My Sharona”. I refuse to list that one.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sing us a song, you're the Piano Man
sing us a song tonight! Well we’re all in the mood for a melody, and you’ve got us feeling alrightttt!
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
I do not doubt
that Humma is outside of wherever you are RIGHT NOW waiting to end you for doing that.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I was wondering who the man with murder in his eyes was out there just staring at me. The dagger he is twirling is a nice touch.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Dagger?
I’m certain Humma Kavula would only use the “point-of-view gun” on you.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Question regarding Roy Oswalt
I was reading stuff about how Roy Oswalt should be targeted by the Dodgers this year blah blah blah etc. and I was curious about something. Putting aside contract issues and cost, if Oswalt did come to DS, would he perform better due to park effects? Isn’t Minute Maid park a hitters park? This is something a friend and I are discussing and I wanted to include input from people smarter than me. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Yes
The effect should be evn greater when considering he would likely be swapping starts not only from Houston to Dodger stadium, but other NL Central parks like Great American for Petco and Pac-Bell. If I recall, I believe between those three parks you have three of the top ten most pitcher friendly parks in the league.
NL West probably has three of the biggest pitcher parks in the league
which is counterbalanced a bit by having a couple of the worst in Arizona and Colorado. Even so, he’d be going from Houston to LA, and that by itself is a big change in his favor.
Quick and dirty estimate of Owalt in LA
is Doyle Alexander for the 1987 Tigers: 9-0 in 11 starts, 1.53 ERA.
I just hope we don’t give up John Smoltz
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Quick and Dirty—The Eric Stephen Story
That’s what she said.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
That was the alternate title, and will have to be the title of at least one chapter
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Save it for the sequel
“Thats What She Said: The Continuing Adventures of Eric Stephen”
I imagine it would read something like an episode of “Behind the Music”.
I'm sure it won't read like
“I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
In that case
I will walk through fire to hear a single note of Bette Midler, Celine Dion, or John Tesh. They are so talented and blow doors off Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms.
Just getting it all out there
I like Wind Beneath My Wings and Power of Love
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
At this point we're up to 177 comments
Yup, this got out of hand quickly.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
So is this thread where we are supposed to talk about how Sex & the City 2 is a vastly underrated motion picture, and that I sincerely hope that this film is what will propell Kim Catrall towards her long overdue Oscar Nomination?
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll kill you
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
hm, that sounded really harsh
How bout, I’ll maim you instead?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
So you think that Carrie made a mistake by marrying Big and should have ended up with Aiden, too?
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Brick killed a guy!
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
I’ve been meaning to talk to you about that….
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
And don't deny that NSYNC's Bye Bye Bye is a good tune
That’s seriously on my workout playlist on the IPOD. Upbeat catchy song.
Britney Spears is amazing.
But that’s allowed because I’m a chick!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Both songs are good.
I really like Break the Ice. Blackout was a weird album in that she did no promotion for it, as she went batshit, but it was a great great dance album.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Whoa, whoa, whoa MWhite! Too much information right there! TMI!
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
thats pretty gross
on my IPOD is Eminem’s Not Afraid. . .now that is good shit
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 4, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Meh.
Loved the Marshall Mathers LP. Downhill from there.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
So true…
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I will admit that I thought my daughter's Hanson CDs were pretty catchy pop songs
Clearly influenced by the early 70s power pop of my generation, e.g., The Raspberries.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Weren't they a 1 hit wonder?
I can only remember the one song….
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The one smash hit
But they had several CDs.
Their front man more recently made an album with Smashing Pumpkins guitarist James Iha, Fountains of Wayne’s Adam Schlesinger, and Cheap Trick’s Bun E. Carlos. I like the idea of recruiting a 50-something Carlos to drum.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The Raspberries and Badfinger
ha, bet only 1% of TBLA members ever heard of them. I’m not even proud of it.
One of the biggest shocks of the office is to find out that the one of the various front men for the Grass Roots is Creed. Grass Roots made some very catchy pop songs that would make you gag if you first heard them at the age of 20 but when you hear them from 8 – 12 they always bring back fond memories.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Badfinger indeed
Did you know that two of those dudes offed themselves?
That is the reason that “Midnight Confession” is a guilty pleasure.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I know the main guy did, didn't know about the other one
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Badfinger!
I really like 2 of their songs. But right now as I’m trying to remember them I’m thinking of Sister Golden Hair – America…I’m not sure why.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
The big hits
Come And Get It (written by McCartney)
No Matter What
Day After Day
Baby Blue
They also wrote “Without You” that Nilsson had a huge hit with.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Which is weird
because Nilsson was really a songwriter not a singer.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The disc Personal Best: The Harry Nilsson Anthology belongs in every collection.
That is all.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I knew he was interesting but I love this tidbit
Due to the poor financial situation of his family, Nilsson worked from an early age, including a job at the Paramount Theatre in Los Angeles. When the Paramount closed, Nilsson applied for a job at a bank, falsely stating he was a high school graduate on his application (he only completed ninth grade).1 He turned out to have an aptitude for computers, which were beginning to be employed by banks at the time. He performed so well that the bank retained him after discovering the lie about his education. He worked on bank computers at night, and in the daytime pursued his songwriting and singing career.1
So we are talking around 1953 – can you imagine what kind of punch card machines they were using back then?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I've read that!
But good God, even this thing is from about 1960
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I should get that
I have several Nilsson 45s. Someone else can explain to the kiddies what a 45 is.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Nilsson’s cover of “You Can’t Do That” is about twelve kinds of amazing.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It is weird
He also had a bit hit with "Everybody’s Talkin’ " from “Midnight Cowboy” and some other dude wrote that too.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Fred Neil (March 16, 1936 – July 7, 2001) was an American blues and folk singer and songwriter whose career developed in the 1960s and early 1970s, after which he left the music scene. He wrote the hits “Candy Man” (the B side of Roy Orbison’s “Crying”) and “Everybody’s Talkin’” (Harry Nilsson), as well as the ballad “A Little Bit Of Rain” and the rock standard “The Other Side of This Life”, most famously recorded by Jefferson Airplane.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point. You are at the very least, an accomplice
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought about it, but like J.D. Drew, I let it pass
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
But references to baseball players or sports in general are not allowed in this thread.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm obviously
a Nomaresque hacker. Witness my NOT letting the comment go by about your brother the “cat”.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I guess I'm Chan Ho Park, then.
I can grow a bitchin’ beard.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Who needs photoshop when you have Paint instead?!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
by Maddz on Jun 4, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
disturbing and compelling at the same time
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Watch out Casey Blake...
theres a new beard in town.
Tom Cruise
Call me!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I would have pounced on the cat comment as well. it was awesome.
by Eric Stephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
Since what I know about baseball can fit in a thimble, I obviously can’t post about that.
And I had to post about SOMETHING. I just HAD TO.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jun 4, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
So. um, the mention of Eric Stults in the article
Got me to check the stats in Japan. I guess he’s improving there a little.
Seven appearances, presumably all starts, with a 2 – 3 record.
IP H HR BB IBB HB SO WP BK R ER ERA 40 37 5 16 0 0 29 0 0 21 19 4.28
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Los Angeles Dodgers
Drew Vettleson, OF, Central Kitsap High School, Silverdale (Wash.)The Dodgers do have a history of taking two-way players in the first round under Logan White and Tim Hallgren, including Ethan Martin and James Loney.
USC will apparently have to wait until at least next week to learn the outcome of an NCAA investigation into the school’s football and basketball programs.
The NCAA committee on infractions report will not be released on Friday. ESPN.com, citing a source with knowledge of the situation, reported earlier this week that the report would be delivered on that day.
The NCAAs should be sued for delaying information for the sake of delaying information.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5249650
We’re close to going past the statute of limitations for these infractions, so the more the delay the merrier.
by KellyStephen on Jun 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, we’re USC. We don’t need any time to line up money.
by KellyStephen on Jun 4, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If I want forgiveness
I will ask it of John Ely.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jun 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jeff Weaver and Carlos Monasterios
can relate to Ringo Starr.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I know the Dodgers track record with High School pitchers in the 1st round
But what about Austin Wilson from local Harvard Westlake High School(if hes available)?
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 4, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions
If he went to Harvard Westlake
then there’s a pretty good chance he’s gonna do the school thing. Hmm. My brother’s gf goes there and is graduating this year. I’ll ask her if she knows him. See if I can get an inside scoop. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
nice...do I see some reporting in your future? lol
But does anyoneknow if the MLB network will be televising the draft? And if so how many rounds?
by SeanMillerSavior on Jun 4, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Should be up next week
but the Cleveland GM is holding back on Santana, because he needs to get better defensively. Fuck him.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
For the next decade
any top young prospect will now be said to be the "next Hayward’
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
80s music videos
Freak me out sometimes. Their just… creepy as hell.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I heard that pop song "1985" this morning
“U2 and Blondie
and music still on MTV”
I like the line “And who’s the other guy that’s singing in Van Halen”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Bowling for Soup?
I liked a couple of their songs, but their like Nickleback, all of their songs sound exactly alike.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
They remade 1985, the original was by SR 71
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
and their "remake"
sounds almost exactly like the original apparently.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
It's slightly different
But there are some changes.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Bill Simmons continues to spread ingnorance amongst the masses
From his cover it live chat last night of Game 1 (reading the transcript now) as he’s been killing Gasol all first half.
Rocco: How is Gasol not being effective? 11 pts, 7 rebs, 3 blocks, and the man he is guarding is 2 for 7 with one board……..
sportsguy33: I like Gasol but he’s been soft in this game. Outhustled a bunch of times and looks 3% deer in the headlights-y. Although Buch was 3x more bothered by his first half than I was.
He then goes on to say he doesn’t like Boston’s body language to start the 2nd half.
I'll be interested to hear
what he says of Gasol after the game.
I just love the thought process.
Shit on Gasol all half. Somebody presents actual facts into the argument. Fall back on, “well he looks uncomfortable.”
Who cares how he looks? Basketball fans need to be liberated from this nonsense which is practically on Joe Morgan level by this point.
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Gasol is awkward, period.
He looks awkwardly, he runs awkwardly, he shoots awkwardly.
And he’s AWESOME.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
"But he looks uncomfortable"
And he still destroyed Boston. This is a compliment towards the Celts how ?
Bill Simmons:
Gasol tried to sleep with myWants to be Paul Pierce’s wife.
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
PEI WEI FTW
Prince Edward Island Wheat Eggplant IceCream for the win?
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night…
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been in one of those places once
and I forgot to ask them how they pronounce the name. Is it pay-way? pie-why?? pie-way???
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
its a wee bit fancier
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Giants called up Burrell
No idea where he plays, since LF is taken by Huff, and 1B by Posey at this time.
They'll stick him at 1B
and send Posey down.
MCC
might explode.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Let him shoot and hope he has an off night. Toronto tried that a few years ago and Kobe torched them for 81.
I thought Allen (the other Allen) was doing a decent job because he was right in his grill, but every time Kobe was able to get separation.
Celtics looked slow last night, and it wasn’t because of the white guy on the floor (oh, wait) or the black shoes.
by KellyStephen on Jun 4, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Detroit tried that a few years back and ended up with a ring in a box
by Michael White on Jun 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Brett Anderson
An A’s source is saying he’s “done” with his latest elbow injury. Don’t know if that means for the season or for his career.
FUCK
I only traded Mauer to get Upton and him…I chose him instead of Price and Hanson (though he didn’t want to give up Hanson).
Last year I traded Hanley and Zimmerman (though partly out of spite due to a rigged league) to get Kazmir, Chris Davis, and someone else who was great but sucked shit that year. I chose Kazmir instead of Greinke…hooray for my choices!
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Justin Miller
Obviously he’s due for a regression, but its nice having your 5th or 6th worst bullpen option be at least above replacement level.
The Human Ink Stain
After throwing 41 pitches in two innings Wednesday, threw two more innings in 29 pitches last night. I guess that’s one way to be welcomed to a Joe Torre bullpen. A little surprised he got off unscathed yesterday.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
At that point in time
Belisario and/or Troncoso will be due for a 15-day DL for a hangnail to save them from the Joe Torre elbow and shoulder grinder. Belisario had DL stint last year.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I guess I've gotta ask
who the hell is Olivia Munn?
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
^^
Her.
More seriously, shes the co-host of a show nobody will ever watch again if shes leaving to join The Daily Show, AKA G4’s “Attack of the Show”
Really?
Huh. I guess that ensures the Iron Man II DVD complete with deleted scenes, will be a hot buy.
Was she the TV host type person at the Stark Expo?
Cause I think I actually heard something like that.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Is she replacing any of the regulars?
Haven’t seen John Oliver much lately.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This is a blog
a bunch of dudes in their basements will appreciate this photo more:
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
C'mon Dodgers
Join the DFA party! GA is ready!
The Ortiz "brothers" made LA the trendsetters
not the joiners.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I'm going to be the only person in this building whose computer keyboard
has an obliterated “z” key.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
And anyone who has never been to SBNation before
Will assume is some sort of freaky pr0n thing.
I find it hilarious
that i press “z” on other websites and wonder why it’s not moving, lol.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
OT: Danny Ferry resigns as GM of the Cavs
Since the best wacko rumors come from OT posts, I’m going to start a rumor that he and LeBron are shopping themselves to new teams as a package deal.
Clippers, anyone?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
GM. Didn’t he actually win a ring as a member of the Spurs later in his “playing career?”
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Same goes for Adam Morrisson.
and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jun 4, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Luis Sojo>
Arod.
haha
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Must I really type this?
Juan Pierre has a ring.
A ring in a box.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Sorta amazed me that Morrison has gotten so little use on this team. He was never a great player, but given how much the Lakers have struggled to find competent outside shooters, and the fact that that is about the only thing Morrison does, you’d think he could get himself at least a few minutes a night.
Is the bad blood between the Clippers and Danny Ferry forgotten?
I guess that turned out ok for the Clippers in the end, kind of:
November 16, 1989: [The rights to Danny Ferry] traded by the Los Angeles Clippers with Reggie Williams to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Ron Harper, a 1990 1st round draft pick (Loy Vaught), a 1991 2nd round draft pick (Joe Wylie) and a 1992 1st round draft pick (Elmore Spencer).
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
What could have been...
“Los Angeles
Best positional player: Chase Utley (1997: Round 2, Pick 76). See what I meant by the Kinsler comment?
Best pitcher: David Price (2004: Round 19, Pick 568). Before Price went to Vanderbilt and became the toast of the college pitcher class in 2007.
Honorable mention: Doug Davis (1993: Round 31, Pick 858)"
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-ones-that-got-away-national-league-west/
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Career high 9.4 H/9 rate
Career high 1.0 HR/9 rate
Career high 4.1 BB/9 rate
Career SO/9 rate is 6.7 for a flyball pitcher with it barely reaching 90.
He’s at best a 5th starter. Saying he’s a ‘guy’ who got away is like saying that the Lakers miss Vlad Rad, or wish Sasha was starting. You would actually have to miss him to actually want him.
And his above average ERA+ is only 105. That’s close enough to the median that I wouldn’t be shocked that it swung positively due to luck and if things were a little different for Davis over the years it would be 95 instead of 105
Except Dodgers Stadium leans pretty heavily as a pitcher park for at least the last two years, and outside of a spike that turned it into slightly hitters friendly during 06-07, has always been a pitchers park.
Billingsley was considered near average last year and was eviscerated for it by fans. A guy who doesn’t have good command, good control and has no velocity to back it up? Who the heck wants that.
His career ERA, FIP, and x-FIP are 4.37, 4.41, 4.43 respectively.
That’s wouldn’t be league average in Dodger Stadium.
Yes, those raw numbers would be better in Dodger Stadium. That is the point of park adjustment.
His career ERA+ is 105. Above average.
Career WAR according to fangraphs is 23.7
His last 3 seasons were only worth 2.4, 2.4, 1.7 respectively. If we’re only taking the years he would for sure be under Dodgers control (the first 6-7 years into account)
He would total 17.2 WAR.
His x-FIP (which is park adjusted) is still 4.486. Come on, that’s not typically not been good enough to start for the Dodgers.
Wouldn’t his numbers be better in DS?
Davis was really good for a couple years, was average for a lot of them, and now is bad. He’s certainly not in the same group as Charlie Haeger.
His entire career, minus one partial season in ’03, has been spent in some of the worst pitchers parks in either league: Texas, Milwaukee, and Arizona, so yea, its safe to say his numbers would be somewhat improved by not pitching half his games in bandboxes.
FIP and x-FIP normalize his numbers, and they said that he’s been pitching near his career ERA anyway. He is what he is. Not a pitcher the Dodgers should care about losing.
The point is
He has been a perfectly fine MLB pitcher for a decade, yet you chose to describe him as someone who sucks. That is just plain wrong.
He would suck compared to what the Dodgers typically want in a starting pitcher. When is the last time we celebrated a pitcher who had a league average ERA? When was the last time we had a starter pitch near league average and consider it a successful season for that starter? (And who weren’t being developed on the major league level like Kershaw) The Dodgers tend to have larger expectations for their starters.
Doug Davis wouldn’t hack it.
Why do you keep changing the argument?
“Celebrated a pitcher”???? What are you talking about?
Since 2000, the Dodgers have only had 28 pitchers qualify for the ERA title. 19 have had an ERA+ of 105 or higher; nine had a 104 ERA+ of lower.
Saying that they could not have used another league average starter, or to say that such a player sucks, is willfully ignorant.
So you’re argument is that they would have been happy with Davis? No way I see that happening. This team had problems with Billingsley, McDonald.
Yes, they had starters like Ishii who may have qualified for the ERA title, but that doesn’t mean they’re happy with their performance. I’m speaking to the expectation the Dodgers typically have for starting pitching. We all have it, its why everyone goes nuts for Ely and derides Heager over the last month.
Its why people think Lindblom, and Withrow aren’t up to snuff to some people. The whole organization and the fans of the Dodgers expect their starters to be at least above average. Its a bit close Hubris but that what I perceive the Dodgers attitude is.
So yes, Doug Davis has been a near average starting pitcher for his career. The Dodgers missing him? Screw that, that’s not true. its like saying that the Dodgers miss Brett Tomko or Mark Hendrickson.
The whole point of the Fangraphs article was to just go through and find players drafted who didn’t sign, yet went on the have major league careers (or in some cases, are on the cusp of having one).
I took exception to you not recognizing that a player who has pitched 10 years in the big leagues, with an above average adjusted ERA has been more than someone who “sucks.”
Lindblom and Withrow don’t really have anything to do with this, and whatever anyone’s expectations were and are, yes, pitching like John Ely has is far more preferred to pitching like Charlie Haeger. I’m not sure what that has to do with the overall point.
Eric, it’s my personal opinion. Why do you care that I think a guy with Davis’ ability, with his high BB/9, H/9, and average SO/9 rates (for a starting pitcher) would be good enough to start for the Dodgers?
Lets say that it true he would have pitched better at Dodger Stadium than his FIP or his X-FIP say he would. Fine, that’s true of any pitcher though, and the Dodgers won’t let pitchers with more talent than Davis ever had have a crack at starting for them.
Elbert still can’t sniff a start, McDonald hasn’t started for the team since early 2009.
If anything, he’s been luckier than history would suggest of other pitchers that pitched in similar situations since his career tERA rate is 4.92.
I doubt that’s league average for tERA
Can the career average Doug Davis break the current Dodgers rotation? Or 09, 08, 07, 06, 05, 04, etc?
He could I guess, we did throw out some crappy pitchers. How about Brett Tomko, who has more talent that Davis, at least at limiting walks(BB/9 2.9), and has a similar SO/9 (6.0) rate and has a career 4.44 FIP?
Would you argue that Davis, career wise is a better pitcher than Tomko? You would have to because your argument is based on ERA+, right?
I freely admit, I don’t like Davis. He’s a junkballer who has little command, and upside, and I still think the way they discarded minor league talent like Jackson, Lilly, etc. for flostam suggest to me that Davis wouldn’t sniff a call up by the Dodgers to begin with.
This is a fair point, but it is very different from “Doug Davis Sucks”…I think that is the problem with this discussion
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He would have absolutely made the rotation this year as the 5th starter
and last year as well. I would say the same with 07 because of Bombko and Loaiza, Hendrickson was mostly out of the bullpen then I believe.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Do you honestly think the Dodgers would not be happy with an above average pitcher taken in the 31st round?
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m saying the Dodgers wouldn’t use him in the first place yes. Dodger starters, at least though the system tend to have to show that they’re above average prospects.
I honestly don’t understand what you just said here.
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Look what happened to Jackson. Better career bb/9 rate, similar K/9 rate as Davis, and much better talent and ability, also a low round draft pick. They wouldn’t allow him to learn on the major league level, instead traded him away for a sack of beans.
Am I wrong in thinking that unless you’re Clayton Kershaw, young starters have to show a lot more than being average to get a start for the Dodgers?
Okay, now I see your point. So, the majority of above average pitchers for the Dodgers have come in via trade?
by robotmadeofnails on Jun 4, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You said it's had problems with Billingsley like he's been bad for any stretch longer than 2 months
People have over-fucking-reacted like crazy about him. Bills is a great pitcher.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Billingsley was shit-talked by dumbass fans last year because he did so poorly in the 2nd half, not because he pitched the whole year as a near average pitcher (he was still pretty above average, btw).
Also, if he were in Dodger Stadium for his career, what makes you think his stats wouldn’t look better?
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would see the first two players on this list
and talk about Doug Davis.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Just brought it up on Youtube, looks like it was just the broadcasts way last night of saying, “See? Kobe is focused man, he’s got Chris Rock talking to him and he couldn’t fucking care less. Mamba focus.”
They even talked to Chris briefly (before Phil glared and made them shut up) and he said nothing to enlighten things.
Doris may be the greatest beard of all time
Oh, wrong Rock.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I love David Spade
he’s usually very funny in his roles.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Anyone catch this Adidas ad?
Love the Snoop and Daft Punk cameos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zd_khk6zXo&feature=player_embedded
by Julio Nievas on Jun 4, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Braves lineup
Prado 2B
Infante 3B
Heyward RF
Glaus 1B
Escobar SS
Cabrera LF
Ross C
McLouth CF
Kawakami P
Dodgers lineup - Blake still sitting
Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Ramirez LF
Loney 1B
Belliard 3B
Martin C
Carroll 2B
Kershaw P
Game Preview is Up
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/6/4/1501760/dodgers-try-for-better-start
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