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Dodgers June In Review: National League Games Are Fun

The Dodgers had a tough schedule in June, chock full of playoff contenders, and managed to finish over .500, at 14-13, a rare occurrence in what is normally a June swoon for the team.  The Dodgers didn't have a winning record in June from 2004-2008.

The Dodger offense was nearly nonexistent outside of Rafael Furcal and Manny RamirezJames Loney did have 22 RBI, and hit .301/.371/.408, but when that is your third best regular your offense is having problems. Media guide cover boys Andre Ethier and Matt Kemp disappeared, turning their Silver Slugger bats into wet noodles. Casey Blake hit like the projection systems suggested a 36-year old would, and Russell Martin managed the rare combo of a .370 on-base percentage and a .650 OPS.

The bullpen, despite the struggles of Ramon Troncoso and George Sherrill, was solid in June, with a 3.01 ERA. Jonathan Broxton had his worst month, ballooning all the way to a 3.48 ERA, while his FIP was 1.36, by far the best on the team.

The Dodgers played 12 interleague games in the month, and lost 10 of them.  Meanwhile, they were 12-3 against National League teams. The good news is that I checked the schedule for the remainder of the season, and the Dodgers play all NL teams.

Dodger Batter of JuneRafael Furcal and Manny Ramirez split this award, as they carried the offense, the only two regulars with an OPS over .800.  Both hit over .360 for the month. Honorable mention goes to Jamey Carroll, who hit .344/.437/.410 in 74 plate appearances.

Dodger Pitcher of June:   This one is split between Hiroki Kuroda and Clayton Kershaw.  These two anchored the staff through a month when Vicente Padilla and Chad Billingsley weren't healthy at the same time, John Ely came back to Earth, and the fifth starters struggled mightily.  Both Kuroda and Kershaw made five starts.  Kershaw was 2-1 and averaged nearly seven innings a start, while Kuroda was 2-2 while averaging nearly a strikeout per inning.

June Record:  14-13
118 runs scored (4.37 per game)
108 runs allowed (4.00 per game)
.540 pythagorean winning percentage (15-12)

June NL West Standings
Club W-L Pct GB RS RA
Padres 15-12 .556 --- 107 93
Dodgers 14-13 .519 1 118 108
Rockies 14-13 .519 1 114 124
Giants  
13-14 .481 2 108 108
Diamondbacks 11-16 .407 4 105 125

Season Record:  43-35
367 runs scored (4.71 per game)
350 runs allowed (4.49 per game)
.522 pythagorean winning percentage (41-37)

Season NL West Standings
Club W-L Pct GB RS RA
Padres 46-32 .590 --- 329 261
Dodgers 43-35 .551 3 367 350
Rockies 41-37 .526 5 360 328
Giants  
40-37 .519 318 283
Diamondbacks 31-48 .392 11½ 362 446

Star-divide

Game of the Month:  The best game of the month was the first game of the month, a scoreless duel between John Ely and Dan Haren that ended with a Matt Kemp laser shot into the left field pavilion, giving the Dodgers a 1-0 win.

Pinch Hitting:  For the month, Dodger pinch hitters had seven hits in 34 at-bats, with one double and two walks, hitting .206/.250/.235.

Runners in Scoring Position:  In June, the Dodgers hit .250/.344/.362 with runners in scoring position in 330 plate appearances, which is 50 more PA than they have had in any other month.  They had a runner on third base with less than two outs 75 times, and got the runner home 45 times, or 60.0% (the entire NL scored 464 of 888, 52.3%).   They had a runner on second base with nobody out 84 times, and the runner advanced 35 times, or 41.7% (the entire NL advanced the runner 456 of 1,010 times, 45.1%).

Upcoming Month:  After hell month, the Dodgers play 14 of 26 games at home.  They only play six games within the division through July 25, but they end the month in the midst of a 10-game stretch against the NL West.

Previous Months in Review:  April | May

June Stats

Player PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SB/CS BA/OBP/SLG OPS wOBA
Manny 93 82 16 30 7 0 4 14 11 1/0 .366/.441/.598 1.038 .448
Furcal 103 94 21 34 6 3 3 16 8 4/2 .362/.408/.585 .993 .424
Loney 116 103 11 31 8 0 1 22 10 3/0 .301/.371/.408 .778 .346
DeWitt 68 57 7 15 4 0 1 10 6 0/1 .263/.348/.386 .734 .311
Blake 84 73 3 19 3 0 1 6 10 0/2 .260/.349/.342 .692 .301
Kemp 112 100 11 23 2 2 3 13 9 3/2 .230/.286/.380 .666 .289
Martin 100 82 9 20 3 0 0 4 17 3/1 .244/.370/.280 .650 .305
Ethier 118 105 12 24 8 0 1 9 9 1/0 .229/.280/.333 .613 .274
Starters
794 696 90 196 41 5 14 94 80 15/8 .282/.354/.415 .769
Carroll 74 61 9 21 4 0 0 1 9 4/0 .344/.437/.410 .846 .400
Belliard 43 36 5 7 2 0 1 5 6 1/1 .194/.310/.333 .643 .290
Anderson 47 46 2 10 3 0 1 4 0 0/0 .217/.217/.348 .565 .245
Johnson 38 38 7 9 2 0 0 1 0 0/0 .237/.237/.289 .526 .232
Ellis 20 16 2 3 0 0 0 2 3 0/0 .188/.316/.188 .503 .253
Hu 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0/0 -----/-----/----- ---- -----
Bench
222 197 25 50 11 0 2 13 18 5/1 .254/.319/.340 .660
Pitchers
49 36 3 5 1 0 0 3 2 0/0 .139/.205/.167 .372 .180
Totals
1065 929 118 251 53 5 16 110 100 20/9 .270/.341/.390 .731 .323

 

Pitcher G W-L Sv IP H R ER BB K ERA WHIP FIP*
Kuroda 5 2-2 -- 30.1 27 10 9 11 30 2.67 1.253 3.17
Padilla 3 1-1 -- 19.1 14 7 7 3 16 3.26 0.879 4.86
Kershaw 5 2-1 -- 34.2 26 15 14 11 36 3.63 1.067 3.29
Ely 6 1-3 -- 35.2 33 18 17 15 23 4.29 1.346 5.36
Billingsley 3 0-2 -- 17.2 21 12 12 7 11 6.11 1.585 3.31
Monasterios 4 1-2 -- 17.2 21 13 13 8 7 6.62 1.642 7.45
Haeger 1 0-0 -- 4.2 5 4 4 4 4 7.71 1.929 6.84
Starters 27
7-11 -- 160.0 147 79 76 59 127 4.28 1.288 4.48
Schlichting 3 1-0 0 7.2 4 0 0 3 5 0.00 0.913 2.68
Link 1 0-0 0 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0.00 0.500 2.20
Kuo 10 2-0 2 12.0 5 1 1 4 13 0.75 0.750 3.12
Weaver 8 3-0 0 8.0 10 1 1 2 5 1.13 1.500 2.70
Belisario 16 1-1 1 15.2 15 3 3 4 9 1.72 1.213 3.46
Broxton 11 0-0 3 10.1 12 4 4 4 14 3.48 1.548 1.36
Miller 12 0-0 0 14.1 17 7 7 3 19 4.40 1.395 4.32
Sherrill 10 0-0 0 4.2 8 3 3 1 1 5.79 1.929 6.20
Troncoso 11 0-1 0 10.0 14 8 8 2 7 7.20 1.600 4.00
Haeger 1 0-0 0 2.0 3 2 2 2 3 9.00 2.500 3.20
Relievers 27
7-2 6 86.2 89 29 29 25 77 3.01 1.315 3.34
Totals 27
14-13 6 246.2 236 108 105 84 204 3.83 1.297 4.08
*FIP is estimated

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would keep me coming back to this site.

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by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to know what they’re talking about.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seconds before this photo was snapped, Manny asked Furcal, “Can anybody on this team hit except you and me? And if not, what the hell are you guys gonna do next year?”

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jul 1, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

“And so I said, hombre, you need to take that sticker off the hat!”

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I keep coming back for the comments sections.

I don’t know what I would read on this site without the comments sections.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to come back and check this picture

when my browser doesn’t disable pictures. I’m sure it’s hilarious though!

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

It and Seinfeld

are the only comedies I love just as much in reruns as I did the first time.

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

We were just talking about Seinfeld yesterday at work.

What a fanastic show. Elaine was the most expendable for me.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I would not have expected Kramer to be that low for you. He also provided perfect comedic relief for me.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

The whole cast is comic relief

He was the clownish character which is definitely expendable. I don’t like the “dumb” cast member. Joey and Phoebe were a waste of time. Kramer was much more solid compared to the idiots on friends, but the other 3 Seinfeld characters were much better.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I liked the best about Kramer.

He was this uber ditzy neighbor, but he wasn’t your run of the mill punchline character.

FWIW, Kramer only marginally beats out Elaine for me.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

Elaine provided a needed girls perspective on a lot of topics, and definitely had her moments.

Like Michael just said, everyone loves Kramer, but just like Jackson on Married with Children, and the neighbor on Home Improvement, next door neighbors are always the most expendable, no matter how funny they are.

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wilson!!!!!!!!!!!

Wilson was integral to most every episode.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm underestimating Elaine's role.

I do like how she always seems so high strung.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head

The Contest, The Sponge, Her and Jerry trying to sleep together again, all classic Elaine episodes

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Blake hit like the projection systems suggested a 36-year old would, and Russell Martin managed the rare combo of a .370 on-base percentage and a .650 OPS.

Our boy Carroll can show him a thing or two about OBP and Slug%.

by meercatjohn on Jul 1, 2010 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

So much grit

it’s like he’s sandpaper

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Instead of….Sherrill?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to figure out who we could bump from the 25 man. I guess it’d be him, Troncoso, or Miller.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the same token

Is there a spot left for Monasterios? Odds he gets returned to Philly are looking a lot stronger now. The Dodgers are still 3 games back and can’t afford to play games with stashing guys on their 25 man rosters.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Already doing that at the moment…

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Will Philly want him back is the other question...

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by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

when was the last time Weaver pitched?

When tallying the bullpen up, i forget that hes on the team anymore since he is rarely used.

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

He's in a more prominent role now

in the back end of the pen. Earlier in the month, when Monk was 5th starter, he was more the long man, and had long periods between outings. He appeared in games…

June 6
June 13
June 19
June 24

He since pitched in the 8th inning (up 5) on Saturday, and the 7th inning in a tie game on Monday.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess they are conservative with him as well?

I thought it funny we didn’t see him on Tuesday with a 2 run lead and instead saw Justin Miller

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jamey Carroll

This guy is really a hell of a bench player and spot starter. He’s been worth every penny so far this year. I hate to commend Ned, but this has been a great signing thus far.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Im lovin him more and more

Wasnt jazzed about the contract at the start but now, i say woohoo

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I can’t believe how big of a fan I am of Carroll.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's like our own David Eckstein

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

haha you are so right!

The guy that your head says shouldnt get on base but always does

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

and also the guy

who opposing teams think “why the hell does this guy never get out?” Because when we face Eckstein that’s exactly what I think every time he fouls off 13 pitches and loops a single to right.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

His stance makes me laugh

he looks like an old-timey ballplayer saying “c’mon c’mon put it right over the plate, rightovertheplate!!!”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but

He is nowhere near as ‘addorable’

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You say that cause he doesn't play for you

His grit is infectious!

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh

Weaver is an inch taller than Broxton. And about 100 lbs lighter. Ha!

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Broxton is the thickest man alive

300 fucking pounds. I still remember seeing that in MLB The Show and having to immediately fact check. Still in disbelief.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s a big boy, that’s for sure.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Billz’s ass rivals Brox on the thickness scale.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Billz body has always tripped me out a bit

Its just not normal.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

How is he not 185 lbs

with all of the sweat he produces during a game?

by keithc13 on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

No clue

on that topic, Why is Padilla always wet, does he actually sweet that much, put that much greese in his hair, or does he just dunk himself between innings?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

if you see him in the dugout after an inning

he gets two cups of water. He drinks one, and then douses himself with the other one.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

He covers himself in water

between innings.

I saw something interesting the other day. AJ Burnett got 4 bottles of water out of the cooler between innings and set them up beside him on the bench. There is no reason to get them out unless you are drinking them. 4 bottles of water between innings means that mutha fucka is hydrated!

by keithc13 on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He just has thick hips

He seemed to slim down this year, but his hips are the same.

by Julio Nievas on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You tryin to say

that Bills has “Baby makin” hips? :)

by keithc13 on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are two stats that glare at me

Kemp and Ethier with a OBP under .300

Blake, Martin, and Ethier haveing less RBI’s than Blake Dewitt!

Bonus stat: Why is Casey Blake attempting SB?!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

because Joe Torre likes to hit & run

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

that can't be it

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one that really gets me

is that our catcher’s slugging % is UNDER .300. And it’s also 70 points lower than his OBP. I knew Martin was struggling, but never looked up anything past BA, homers and RBI’s.

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thing that jumped out at me

is that for all the crap Kemp has taken this month about being horrible, he was actually (however marginally) better than Ethier.

by EMDarrow on Jul 1, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hurray July!!!

Hope for a better month from the Dodgers, though they did finish over .500 in June. Plus, my birthday at the end of the month. (turning 26, should I be happy?)

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

of course be happy!

July is awesome as my bday is there as well. :D

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeowch

That’s rough.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get to share mine with Frank Sinatra!

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

September 3 was a very boring day.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

JUST KIDDING

I have Charlie Sheen and Shaun White.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've always liked Charlie Sheen

I’ve been sad to see him have so many problems. Hot Shots is awesome, both parts.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

my Wife was born on September 3rd

Kinda sucks sometimes because its so close to labor day its a pain to go anywhere.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fact

and if you are trying to look for a restaurant on Labor Day and you’re hangry…oh man.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Try having a birthday on January 1st!

:-(

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by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

My two brothers have b-days on Valentines Day and April Fools. One sister’s b-day occasionally falls on Labor Day.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Valentine's would kind of suck too

but I assure you nothing is more irritating (save for Christmas) than a New Year’s bday. Though it’s always cool to tell people!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

That said, here are some peeps born on my day

Paul Revere and Betsy Ross (heh); JD Salinger, Frank Langella. Mini Me aka Verne Troyer; and Hank Greenberg (woot!) Marcia Cross, Derrick Thomas, DJ Shadow.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

My brother didn't think things out

born on V-Day, and also decided to get married the day after V-Day.

Or maybe he is a genius and decided to consolidate all three.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

My wifes Bday is July 3rd!

We never go anywhere cuz we stay home so she can have a bday party and see family

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got the new Cavs coach, former Astros slugger Glenn “Not Big Baby” Davis, and Julia Stiles

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and I have

Stacey King and Steve Sax as well

by keithc13 on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

January 29th?

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t thought about Stacey King for years

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have Ted Williams Jerry Tarkanian Cliff Lee and america’s sweetheart Cammy.

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats nothing

April 20th. Columbine, Hitler. I don’t even smoke.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Same here. We win. We always win.

by Alex41592 on Jul 1, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its crazy

my brother was born on the same day 2 years before me

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. Me too! The good thing is that nobody forgets my birthday when it comes around!

by UCLADodger32 on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO!

Nothing good comes from anything over 25!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just learned

on my birthday in 1940, the animated short A Wild Hare was released. The significance, it was the first appearance of Bugs Bunny.

Let’s go back to this one ;-)

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice!

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by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

funny thing is

I could hear him in my head as I typed that.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

One thing that stood out to me

was that Matt Kemp struck out 34 times in 112 PA (30.4% of the time), against 9 walks (8.0%).

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

WOW! THAT’S A LOT OF Ks!

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate it too. But I was inspired. Or something. :)

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow…that’s crappy. Given that he’s now more of a lightening rod than Bills (amazing!), you would think he’d be way lower on that list above than he is. The fact is a lot of players sucked this month. Hopefully July will be a different story.

by KellyStephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good thing he is clearly out of his slump now, and will no doubt hit 8 HR in July

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

We called it, the purge

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

i knew mods had a God complex. you’re only one letter off.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

But did you do it in “Go Fuck Yourself” style?

by KellyStephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno if any of you read The Oatmeal.

But he is pretty much awesome.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/minor_differences

warning: not baseball related.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

reminds me of the people on the Dodgers.com board

DOES ANYONE THINK TAHT MATT KEMP IS TIRED BECAUES IT LOOKS LIKE HIS SWEING IS LONG MAYBE HE SHOULD REST OR MAYBE WE SHOULD TRADE HIM!!!

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like the cutting people off one personally.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

the oatmeal is great one of my favorite webcomics

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read Something Positive a lot in high school.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Questionable Content, XKCD, Penny Arcade and the Oatmeal are my top choices these days

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The cutting off one is hilarious!!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I work with people who type in all caps

They are from the Dominican Republic, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that they should know not to type in all caps all the time. It’s really, really annoying.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m curious. I’m going to guess that they say they don’t mind receiving text in all caps themselves – they don’t find it annoying and are surprised you do. Have you asked them why they do it? I’m just curious if they actually find it easier to read, at least in English (presumably not their first language), not having to deal with two versions of the alphabet. Or is it really just that they do it for emphasis themselves and like being shouted at too – makes everything more exciting?

by berkowit28 on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I've never asked

I didn’t want to be rude. Most of them have spanish as their first language, but some of them speak English pretty well. Idk, it’s just weird.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

oatmeal is pretty funny

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

and BTW, Off-day thread!!!!

i expect shenanigans and possible tomfoolery.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

no matter what the “man” tries to tell you.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

his last at bat, the 3 pitch swinging strike out

was painful. Its like he doesnt know whats going on. He looked like the Giants ball boy. Old and unable to react

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

THAT and Joe Torre's memory of young GA

keep him on the team. GA time to move over man. You’ve had your fun. Let the kids play. Its like when the adults take over the video games and keep their children from playing.

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not my fault

my nephews suck at games….heh heh.

Actually, my nephew is pretty good at Wii Sports

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That and

Harry Potter, SCI FI, movies, and lots of other fun topics. Let it be so!

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

has anyone read

the Percy Jackson and the Olympians series? I’ve read the first 4 books and really enjoyed them.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to start reading those

I got the first three but havent gotten around to them

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whew!
The good news is that I checked the schedule for the remainder of the season, and the Dodgers play all NL teams.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

that was pretty damn funny

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mitch “Kong” Jones is sporting a .298 on base percentage in AAA (Braves).

KONG!

by silverwidow on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

He misses Albequerque

How is John Lindsay doing right now?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just pissed that “Have You Met Mitch Jones” never took off.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Darko lives

chadfordinsider: Breaking News: Wolves agree to a 4 year, $20 mil deal with Darko Milicic. Link coming shortly …

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 9:53 AM PDT reply actions  

more like

David Kahn lives…

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

$20 mil!!!

Hey, his whole contract is almost as much as LeBron and ’Melo make it one year.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

and his 4 years of production

will be almost as much as Lebron and Wade give you in one week

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 1, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT!

He was selected 2nd overall, that’s gotta mean something, right?!

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It means the Pistons fucked up his development.

by Tripon on Jul 1, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

what makes me laugh about that movie

is that even the director said he doesn’t really get it.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah

Yeah and then tried to do a re-edit which made even less sense. I still love it though, it’s open to interpretation. Great movie. His Southland Tales however made no sense either but not in a good way.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Key NBA free agent tweet

from Conan O"Brien:

I don’t care where LeBron James ends up… As long as it’s not at 11pm on TBS

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

She defies reality.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

lvdown would not know what to do with it

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

You son of a...

I’ll show you when I’ve got Gemma Arterton on my arm walking on the red carpet…it’s gonna happen.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

No idea who that is

Where is the high school napping guy?

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ice T has a wife named Cocoa?

Are their kids 7-up and Snapple???

by KellyStephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ice T is hilarious btw

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I love that description.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahaha

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh man, that one made me smile.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

So best case scenario...

We have one All-Star and one Ace!!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's probably pretty standard across baseball

If you’re being realistic with your rankings.

One ace would be fantastic. Nobody in the minor leagues now is dominating like Kershaw and Billingsley did.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

i'll take a solid No. 2

err….wait. that could totally be read funny out of context

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is there any sane reason Kyle Russell dropped from 16 to 29?

Other than a tough time to start AA in less than a months sample size?

Really?

Seriously?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ask that question nicely

meaning don’t call him insane, in the fanshot above and he will respond for himself.

He also wrote about it in his post.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Firstly, I don’t think it wasn’t not-nice, I’m just incredibly puzzled. Secondly, there is really no reason to drop Russell 13 spots after doing so well in HiA (even if it is a hitters league he proved himself in a pitchers league last year), even with some struggles in AA in a month’s time.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Russell and all but the 50% K rate is not good

He’s getting worse there, not better. We all hope he improves that. Because he’s got lots of other good things about him…

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not everyone can just come to AA and flat out rake like Jerry Sands has, there is going to be a struggling period for most every player once promoted to a higher league. The K rate will go down as he sees more pitches from these pitchers. He may not have a great year in AA, but I imagine he will hit his stride in AA next year.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right

believe me, but K problems have plagued him since college so it’s not like it’s a new development in AA. That said, of course even with his age there’s a figuring out period and he could still be adjusting. But he’s getting to the point where you wonder.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

The k rate is troubling

But he does just about everything else very well. I just don’t why it’s so easy for some people to just cast him off as a non-prospect.

Why would the Dodgers draft him in the 4th round if they had no plans for him?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except all those things he does well

Have stopped since hitting AA. Until he proves he can do it, all evidence points to him simply hitting a wall. And unlike, say, Lambo, he’s not at an age where he has time for that.

by EMDarrow on Jul 1, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also

Why doesn’t he have time? He’s 24, right? 24 in AA isn’t a grandpa. And is there a rule saying a player has to make the majors before the age of say…26? I realize he’s not a top prospect, and I’m fine with that, but people place so much emphasis on age, when the only time age really matters is in the late 30s when players start losing much of their abilities. If a player can play then who cares what their age is, honestly.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Age matters in terms of body development and growth. It is much more likely a 21-22 year old will mature more physically than someone who is 2-3 years older already. It is a built-in improvement projection.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

That does make sense, but when a player is putting up good stats, does that matter all that much more? Especially if there aren’t many better options?

One example for me would be why do we have Garret Anderson wasting everyone’s time in the majors as our main pinch hitter and spot starter in the outfield when John Lindsay (or Lindsey, can never remember) has mashed this year, and been really good each of the last 3 years, but has never gotten a single shot as even an MLB bench player. Doesn’t seem right to me.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens to Phil

I’m just glad that Byron Scott won’t be coming to the Lakers.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Anyone watch So You Think You Can Dance?

This is probably one of the best routines I’ve seen in a long time AND it was danced by a guy who trained and was in a ballet company. Amazing.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

MLBTR says

Phillies are evalutating the trade market for Jayson Werth

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

rec’d

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that should be MLBTR “reports” as they post stuff others have said. I do love that site

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I gave up on that site... Well I was a regular commenter there.

People got so annoying and this blog is 100x better.

But I remember you, lvdown, LYD4L, and others. The Phillies fans are what drove me away.

by Julio Nievas on Jul 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know what you mean

me and LYD4L went to war with the Blue Jays fans when Halladay was gonna be traded. They were, at the same time, telling us that Billz was not anywhere near an ace, and that we should be happy to trade him for Halladay.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

seriously

no matter what anyone thought, they were like “That’s not enough and you should be ashamed for even suggesting it.”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did like the MLBtr "flashback" feature they did

When we revisited the Vernon Wells signing. Boy were the comments fun to read

by Julio Nievas on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

I just felt annoyed for LDY4L, he had to explain his screen name like 12 times. People just called him a bandwagon fan.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got annoyed with the guy after this exchange: They emailed this:

Ryan Zimmerman (Nationals) vs. Ryan Braun (Brewers): This battle between Zimmerman, picked fourth, and Braun, picked fifth, was to be a test of hot corner prowess. But while Zimmerman has excelled at the position, winning a Gold Glove in 2009 and grading well under more advanced defensive metrics, Braun settled in left field after proving to be a disastrous fielder at third base. So far, Braun has a .931 to .836 edge in OPS, but with Zimmerman putting up an .888 in 2009 and at .986 so far in 2010, that gap may well have disappeared. Moving forward, the edge goes to Zimmerman, a terrific hitter, though a notch below Braun, but a far more valuable defensive player. Both teams won here, though.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I responded:

Great work as always, but you are way off on Zimmerman vs. Braun.

Braun’s NL LF Fielding ranks in 2008: #1 in putouts, tied for #1 with a 1.000% and #2 in range factor
Braun’s NL LF Fielding ranks in 2009: #1 in putouts; #2 with a .994% (Behind Pierre who only played when Manny didn’t) and #1 in range factor

You can’t knock the guy for what he did at third when he is excelling in LF!

Zimmerman 162 AVG: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/z/zimmery01.shtml#batting_standard
96R; 181H; 43(2B); 3(3B); 26HR; 98RBI; 5SB; 64BB; 119K; .287BA; .352OBP; .487SL%; .838OPS; 307TB

Braun 162 AVG: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/braunry02.shtml#batting_standard
114R; 201H; 41(2B); 7(3B); 38HR; 119RBI; 20SB; 51BB; 134K; .308BA; .364OBP; .565SL%; .929OPS; 368TB

I think the Cubs fan in you wrote this!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then the jerk just wrote back:

Howard Megdal wrote it, and I believe he used more advanced defensive metrics than those.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fielding percentage (especially for OF) doesn't tell you much

and range factor doesn’t allow for context. It simply tells you a raw number without knowing how many opportunities were had.

Using plus/minus by John Dewan, which measures plays against the average major leaguer at said position based on balls in play data, on Bill James Online:

Braun
2007: -31 (35th among MLB 3B)
2008: +4 (8th among MLB LF)
2009: -16 (34th)
2010: -4 (23rd)

Zimmerman
2007: +16 (3rd among MLB 3B)
2008: +8 (9th)
2009: +21 (2nd)
2010: +11 (2nd)

Zimmerman is a superior fielder, and Braun isn’t

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a no brainer that he is a better defender, but

I don’t think it is enough to outway Ryan Braun’s numbers!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a defendable opinion.

But it is arguable going forward who will be more valuable, IMO.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are hitting about the same this season

with a very slight edge to Zimmerman:

Zimmerman: .284/.377/.504, .378 wOBA, 136 OPS+, 135 wRC+
Ryan J Braun: .299/.357/.487, .375 wOBA, 128 OPS+, 135 wRC+

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is because Braun got plunked in the elbow by Tommy Hanson...

and hasn’t been the same since.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not just this year

take this with a grain of salt…

Wins Above Replacement (WAR):
2007: Braun 2.8 / Zimmerman 5.0
2008: Braun 4.6 / Zimmerman 2.5
2009: Braun 4.9 / Zimmerman 6.6
2010: Braun 1.0 / Zimmerman 3.0
Total: Braun 13.3 / Zimmerman 17.1

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before elbow injury

.359/.443/.594 1.037 OPS

Also, WAR is not a good measurable at different positions.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

Have you got a better one?

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

3rd baseman are harder to come by LF's are a dime a dozen

Also, Zimmerman is on the Nationals!!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

If 3B are harder to come by, wouldn’t that make a very good 3B very, very valuable, more so than a “dime a dozen” LF?

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

WAR makes positional adjustments.

I’m not sure I’m tracking, are you now saying Zimmerman is more valuable?

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I'm saying is that when comparing to a smaller number of guys makes you look better than you really are.

When being compared to a lot of guys, the chances of looking better are harder.

Isn’t that what WAR is all about?

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Zimmerman being a good 3B does make him more valuable, but

at the end of the day, if given the choice, I would choose Braun over Zimmerman. Who would you choose?

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zimmermann.

Because he’s more valuable.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is so Valuable...

The only time he was in the MVP race was finishing #25 in 2009 including his only Silver Slugger

Braun
 #24 in 2007 (ROY in 113 games)

  1. in 2008 SS
  2. in 2009 SS

Look like all of the Baseball writers agree with me.

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats a super lame argument man

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is supposed to say...

3rd in 2008 with SS
11th in 2009 with SS

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are we talking actual value or what a bunch of old school baseball writers think?

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zimmerman

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zimmerman

without hesitation.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

It attempts to measure the value over a replacement player. In other words, the type of player you would have to go acquire if for instance your guy was out for the year.

It’s mostly AAAA type guys, or the freely available types.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

If there are very few good 3B, that means when you have one of them that is very valuable, because they simply can’t be replaced.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think my sentence made much sense there.

Bottom line: having fewer good players at a position means a good player at said position is more valuable

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

And i completely understand that

You are basing your answer off of WAR.

Let me ask you this.

Who would you rather have:

Manny Ramirez
Ken Keltner

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would take Manny, because he is alive

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well those are your...

Similars on Baseball Reference.

Braun is Similar to HoFr’s and Zimmerman is not!

I’m gonna go with the HoFr, you guys guys can have the Ken Keltner look a like!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am not completely basing it off WAR; I tried to explain it logically before delving into WAR.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you are totally overlooking Braun's...

Supreme ownership over Zimmerman’s Offensive numbers based off the 162 Avg (pretty accurate measurable)

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mauer

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Braun

doesn’t have the commercial prowess of Mauer

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It isn't "supreme ownership" though

Zimmerman is a year younger. Let’s look at age 24-25…

Braun (2008-09): 139 OPS+
Zimm (2009-10): 134 OPS+

And that is before taking into account one of them can’t play defense at all, while the other one is among the best in the majors with the leather.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cherry Picker

What was wrong with my stats?

I will agree to disagree with you, that is what is so great about sports!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You were asking who is better now

I believe it is Zimmerman. They are close offensively now, and Zimmerman is far and away the superior defender.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love your quote

That was so great :)

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t you make the argument 3rd base defense is more valuable then LF defense? I could be totally wrong as usual though.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really think they should have traded Howard. They could have gotten a crazy haul for him, and it would have freed up some salary for some major deals.

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

http://www.catswhothrowupgrass.com/kill.php

Check this out, cat lovers.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 10:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Madden 11

Apparently, the default setting is that you CAN’T choose your own plays. The coach calls out the play and it’s up to you to execute it. I assume this can be modified somehow, but this is kind of a stupid feature IMO.

by silverwidow on Jul 1, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

pretty soon you wont be able to play at all

and you just start a game and the computer plays both sides for you while you just sit and watch. Even has commercial breaks.

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of NCAA’s campus legend mode. Kinda sucks when it is 4th and 2 late in the game and your coach calls a screen play that never works.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Screen plays haven’t worked since Madden 93

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you are that jerk that just pulls it down and runs every play?

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll admit

when Vick had a 99 speed rating, I couldn’t help but play with him for a while.

But other than that stint with Vick I like to play a traditional QB. But when you have a slow QB against fast DEs and you’re trying to drop your QB up to buy time for the screen to develop it usually fails for me.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You would be way more annoyed playing me

I like the college football games. And I ran a double tight single back offense. That allowed me to run option plays to either side in no huddle since I could audible and switch the side I called the option to without having to shift.

I basically ran no huddle all day every day.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

video games need to account more for fatigue

have a mutiny option

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do the same on one of my dynasty modes. Flexbone option offense. Its pretty stupid overpowered in NCAA games.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t played Madden for a few years, but I loved making plays out of the double TE set

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am tough to play against too. I run play clock down and run a lot with RB and FB!

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hate play clock down.

Ugh. I mean come on, the quarters are only ~4 to ~5 min. as it is.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the sound of Peyton Manning hating you.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really hate him so no problem.

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't been able to play Madden

since they changed to where you need to (as the quarterback) look down a receiver. I turned the option off, but I felt like I was cheating.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember the original madden

where, on a glitch fumble, the ball flew 99 yards to the other end zone where my brother then scored the winning touch down

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you guys ever get a glitch in Madden

where at halftime of games during a season, the computer automatically put in its 3 string players?

That happened to me 2 years in a row, and it annoyed me so I stopped buying it.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

The last great Madden game was 2005.

The next-gen ones have been largely disappointing. Although last year’s was an improvement in terms of gameplay.

by silverwidow on Jul 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I barely ever play

but I’m pretty sure I’ve run into that glitch

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to play until 3 years ago

I’m burned out on it!! I can only win soo much, haha!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The worst football video game experience for me.

Winning in the 4th. Buddy scores a touchdown with 30 seconds left. He pauses the game, looks up how to do an onside kick, does it way too easily, and kicks the field goal for the win.

Joe Montana football on the Genesis

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I know working in the industry

a change like that either came down from on high (meaning WAAAAY up the food chain at EA), was the product of a focus group, or somehow made programming the game a lot easier.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was meant to make games faster

but yes its all about making the game more “accessible”, so probably came out of focus group testing. I don’t have a problem with it as long as you can still go back and call your own plays.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call me elitist but making games more accessible is what the Wii is for.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're elitist

Theres nothing wrong with making games accessible as long as you still retain the depth at the same time. Obviously there are countless times where games are made “accessible” and lose what made them awesome in the first place, but it can be done right.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

If there is the ability to go back and make it so that you call all the plays, then I guess I don’t see an issue.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly the point of the Wii

and it’s beating the shit out of the other platforms as a result.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

and i don’t mind the Wii, I think it was an incredibly smart idea for Nintendo to widen their customer base. I just don’t want to play Mass Effect on preschool mode with grandma.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mass Effect was released for the Wii?

Huh.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he is simply saying it would be dumbed down if it came to the Wii

Which it would, because the Wii is weak sauce in the gfx department. I still love it though.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Wii is basically two gamecubes put together. :)

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

hah yeh

I really want them to release a damn HD Wii already.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

and a magic stick.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had one for awhile, for me it really came down to having other people to play with, when that was possible I played Wii more than PS3, when it wasn’t I went to the PS3

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Psh

You just have to get the WiiStation360 like I did. Best console ever

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am just saying that developing games (like many for the wii) for everyone is all well and good, but making EVERY game like that scares me.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

They don't though

There are still plenty of games for us “hardcore” gamers. There are more games coming out last year. I still am trying to catch up to 2008, and it gets worse every year.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

btw

Has anyone else bought a ton of games this week because of Steam? I can’t not buy games when they are 3 bucks. Its ridiculous.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get out of my head

I was just typing about steam. Bought ME and ME2 for 30 bucks last weekend.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Steam is amazing

I love Valve. Seriously.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steam is a major contributor to my financial difficulties.

“I have 30 bucks and can eat for the next week, or buy Bad company 2”

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do what I've been doing

I have spent less then 50 bucks and picked up Thief, Max Payne 1 and 2, Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, Shattered, indigo prophecy, AvP, and Overlord and Deus Ex. There are plenty of older games worth going back and playing on the cheap.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

its all about impulse control. I try to wait for the sales but in the end, i have none.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have much in the way of impulse control either

us girls call it “retail therapy”

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

MLB2K10!!!!!!!!!!!!

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehehe

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You think thats funny now

but wait till Eephus thinks you are serious, buys it and tries to kill you in a rage. Then we’ll see who is laughing!

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I worked on it

So you can go fuck right off

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that before or after they brought development back in house?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go see if you can snag me a FIFA 2011. I will pay you in cash dollars and admiration.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

they aren't even made by the same company

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

details.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

EA and 2k are like mortal enemies

EA makes Fifa.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know, but in my fantasy, Maddz comes over with FIFA 2011, and then I play it. I don’t get hung up on the details.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

In your wildest fantasy you get a video game

and then the girl leaves? You need better fantasies

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

who said that was my wildest fantasy? I’m just trying not to kill a off-day thread here.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was about to type something very similar.

by delias man on Jul 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

would you like it better if I said something like: she can bring FIFA 2011 over and then we can not play it?

alas, I’m not that guy. Sorry to disappoint everyone.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just joking with you, don't get your man card in a twist

it’s also a joke from the office

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its all good, I'm not twisty

although, I haven’t ever gotten into the Office, so you may want to put me in the pillory.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dwight Schrute: Welcome to the Hotel Hell. Check-in time in now, check-out time is never.

Jim Halpert: Does my room have cable?

Dwight Schrute: No. And the sheets are made of fire.

Jim Halpert: Can I change rooms?

Dwight Schrute: Sorry we’re all booked up. Hell convention in town.

Jim Halpert: Can I have a late check-out?

Dwight Schrute: I’ll have to talk to the manager.

Jim Halpert: You’re not the manager, even in your own fantasy?

Dwight Schrute: I’m the owner.. the co-owner. With Satan!

Jim Halpert: Okay, just so I understand it. In your wildest fantasy, you are in hell and you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

Dwight Schrute: But I haven’t told you my salary yet.

Jim Halpert: Go.

Dwight Schrute: Eighty thousand dollars

Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!

by Josie Becker on Jul 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If one's never watched the office before

Not sure how funny that passage is, since you have no understanding of the Dwight/Jim relationship.

I, on the other hand, laughed out loud reading it.

by Michael White on Jul 1, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did as well

They are one of the best pairs on TV.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to watch a few episodes.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who the hell says I wouldn’t play FIFA 2011 too? Yeesh.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

its the obvious choice.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am definintely not the type of GF

that gets offended when my guy wants to play video games. In that respect, I’m awesome. However, I also might destroy you at video games, too. In that respect, I’m more awesome.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

nobody beats me at FIFA, I will let you have the FPS highground though. I am not a great FPS player.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can have FIFA

I’ll take everything else. :P

I used to be AWFUL at FPS, and then I played Halo with some kids that were all about it. I specialized in stickying people in the face (Tommy will know what I’m talking about)

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh Halo. I prefer TF2 or BC2

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

TF2 is fantastic.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

its my Favorite. You should all give me your steam IDs

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Email works better

try snnoland@gmail.com, or polarbearzhunter, or [LawL]RealMctasty. One of those should work.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

bam. friended.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

kmocain@gmail.com

I use the same K3vo handle on steam.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

ELITIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jk

I like Halo for what it is, but I’ll take TF2 any day. I love the Halo story and universe and whatnot though.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see you

grabbing the control and saying “I’m first player biatch!”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see everyone getting angry when Robin Van Persie and Andrei Arshavin combine for 6 goals in the first half.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010

by K3vo on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

there should be

a Zinadane manuever, headbutt to the chest.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hello Andrew

I drew a picture of the next time we meet. Here’s my boomstick, here’s you, crying. The ball lands on the moon. I’m just kidding…..not really.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

SERIOUSLY

The commercials for 2K10 are fantastic. You guys need to check them out.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those commercials are awesome

I like the ones where Felix Hernandez and Kendry Morales are talking shit to each other in spanish.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

They are funny, but that does not help with gameplay

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The gameplay isn't even really the bad part

its just too glitchy. They need to rewrite the engine or something.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

2k10 sucks

I bought a ps3 mostly because of the show. Its amazing. Also hard as hell. =\

by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 1, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It glitched so bad

someone was even able to win the $1 million prize for throwing the perfect game!

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only people that like MLB2k10 are the ones that have grown accustomed to the previous crap. So, this years version looks so good now. Of course, this guys still comes to my house to play the show.

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

360 right? Not original?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeh MLB2k10 has the exclusive license and well...

Although if you want an arcade game The Bigs 2 is supposed to be alright and can be had cheap.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bigs 2 is hilarious

I really enjoyed it. My name is on that game as well (I think?). Ichiro is some sort of demon outfielder who catches everything.

And 2K has the exclusive publishing rights to MLB for a 3rd party publisher. That’s why Sony can do The Show.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeh

In what capacity did you work on these games?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last MLB game I bought was

Slugfest for Play Station. My team were the dodgers and Hideo Nomo led the league in home runs.

by Julio Nievas on Jul 1, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yankees ML -335 vs Seattle today

Over 77% win probability. And in this case it is a fair price. Yankees lead 1-0 in the B4th.

Blue Jays were way over-priced today. Indians up 6-0.

by Xeifrank on Jul 1, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

As I recalled

You told me to bet everything I had on the Yankees. And they lost..

by Julio Nievas on Jul 1, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

hehe- I did?

No, I didn’t. :)

My simulator rarely says to bet on the Yankees.

by Xeifrank on Jul 1, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet on the Yankees when the Red Sox came back to win in game 4. Cost me a $20 for the bet, but the parlay would have paid $150 ish

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 1, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lucas May, John Lindsey and Jay Gibbons have made the Triple A ASG

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Dodgers manager Joe Torre did the right thing by sitting Kemp (below right).

Kemp is one of baseball’s most entertaining players when he’s playing well, but he looked distracted for most of June. Torre sat him for three consecutive games. The time off should help Kemp, who came back Wednesday to hit a home run.

People forget that Kemp, 25, was a right fielder for most of his career. After Andruw Jones flopped in Los Angeles, Kemp rescued the Dodgers by plugging the hole in center. He’s more suited to right, scouts say, yet still won a Gold Glove last year. In 2011, when left fielder Manny Ramirez likely will have joined an American League club, the Dodgers might want to carry a defensive center fielder flanked by Kemp and Andre Ethier.

Matt KempA late comer to baseball, Kemp, who is 6-foot-3 and 227 pounds, told me he still loves basketball. “I wish I could play both — basketball and here,” he said, laughing.

He no longer plays basketball because it’s too dangerous: “About all I do is shoot.”

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/07/01/twelve-thoughts-car-go-clicking-kemp-benching-phils-challeng/

by Tripon on Jul 1, 2010 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Defensive CFer?

Pierre? Nope.
Andruw Jones? Nope
we haven’t had much luck with CFers of late.

by Xeifrank on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not ready to annoint Torre for benching Kemp

but here’s why it might not have been the worst thing in the world:

1) It was only 3 games

2) Kemp has sucked (I know he wasn’t the only one) for 2 months

3) Most importantly IMO, Kemp has the ability to be the Dodgers’ best player, right now, and as such there is more delta here, between his current performance and what he can accomplish (If you bench a guy like Blake DeWitt to send a message, the difference in his current performance and max performance isn’t that much, whereas the difference between current Kemp and Max Bison is enormous). You have to try whatever you can to coax that performance out of him. I don’t know everything the coaches have tried to date, but the slap in the face / wake-up call offered by the 3 games on the bench could, at the very least, give Kemp a chance to refocus (again, not knowing what exactly will work going forward, but maybe the coaching staff was out of ideas)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

After reading Jon's excellent interview Dave Stewart

I’m just very glad that he’s been Matt’s agent throughout all of this.

by Jesse S. on Jul 1, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Max Bison

awesome.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Want to help fight cancer AND have Manny's Porsche?

Dodger outfielder Manny Ramirez has donated a rare 1994 911 Porsche Turbo 3.6 to be auctioned off for charity, the team announced today. Proceeds from the online auction will be split between ThinkCure!, the Dodgers’ official charity and Maryvale, a local residential placement home for girls formerly known as The Los Angeles Orphan Asylum.

The online auction will take place on eBay and will run from July 2 at 11 a.m. through Monday, July 12 at 11:00 a.m.

http://www.thinkcure.org/manny

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

If only the Porsche was Dodger Blue instead of Angel Red.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope no one was too excited about the last Airbender movie

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100630/REVIEWS/100639999

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't get why people let sham along keep writing

Just give him a good script and let him direct

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect I won't

seeing as I bought tickets already. If it’s going to be bad that bad, I am just going to go Lambo it up and see in 3D.

Errr, I mean. Uh….WHO LOVES VIN SCULLY?! EHHH?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was cool in that review

to see Ebert talking about anime and Miyazaki. I suspect that Miyazaki is about as much anime that Ebert is familiar with, but still…..

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

He absolutely loves Miyazaki

You might be surprised about the films he watches, he really gets around.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

Good clip of ebert taking about Grave of the Fireflies(saddest movie ever?) and anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRXg_ovaE94

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its an amazing movie

but it stabs you in the heart so fucking hard at the end.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn.

I was a little worried about that being the case when I saw the trailers, but, yeah. I was interested when the LAT ran an article about the furor over the casting in TLA, but to be completely honest, the only characters that struck me as OVERTLY Asian were the Firebenders. Aang doesn’t really appear Asian to me, and Sokka and Katara were pretty much dark skinned with blue eyes…so…Indian or Eskimo maybe? You tell me what nationality that is and cast for it, and I’ll acquiesce to your expertise.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

sounds to me like MKS took a lot of the great character interaction from the series and dispensed with it.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, unless he was the guy who pitched it to the studio, who let that guy be in charge?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy

Carlos Santana can’t even get a game off after a night game. Is Cleveland trying to kill him?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 1, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Why would you ride your best players into the ground

that would seem to be an incentive? How many catchers catch the day game after a night game?

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 1, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow I read the Sands portion of Phil's article

woohoo im getting excited!! I hope he is the real deal

by EephusBlue on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Josh Bell

is getting called-up by Baltimore. Today.

by silverwidow on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

must be because of what happened to Luke Scott.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totes OT

Anyone have any advice for renting an apartment before I’ll be able to see it?

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Get someone local

to give you honest advice regarding location.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m moving and I don’t really have the opportunity or ability to go look at places before I move.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 1, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you see any big NBC Dateline trucks outside, run as fast as you can

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good News/Bad News

Good News: 11 games against the NL West in July 3 DBacks, 3 Pads, 5 Giants
Bad News: 4 with the Mets, 4 with the Cubs, 4 with the Cards, 3 with the Fish.

Good News: Padres play the Fish 2 times, LAD 3, Braves 3 times
Bad news: HOU 4, WAS 3, COL 3, AZ 3, PIT 3

We’ve got some winning to do.

by GScott1 on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Cubs and Marlins aren't exactly intimidating this year.

We own the cards anyways :-p.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

benjie molina traded

does this mean buster posey will suck at more than 1 position?

by raj m on Jul 1, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

man, why did this slow down so much?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I meant the lack of comments

Bastards!

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

lunch

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 1, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is also a new thread

by Eric Stephen on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that's MIGHTY convenient for the people with enough brain power to realize this

MIGHT convenient.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at that, my lack of brain power strikes again

MIGHTY*

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 1, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone in the Dodgers Organization

has to take Mike Scioscia off of the distribution list for the hand signs cheat sheet memo and the hitters need to stop listening to Mike when he tells them what type of pitch the pitcher is going to throw.

by Cool Dudes on Jul 1, 2010 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

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