Mid-Season Minor League Update
by meercatjohn on Jul 12, 2010 5:34 PM PDT
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We have reached the major league all-star break, and enough baseball has been played to take a look at our Dodger prospect rankings. Keep in mind that Coolguy_88888888 and Kensai put a hell of a lot more thought into this then I do.
This is what I had to say on Dec 1st
| Pre-Season Los Angeles Dodgers Top Prospect Ranking |
| Order | Hitter | Pitcher |
| 1st | Dee Gordon | Scott Elbert |
| 2nd | Ivan DeJesus | Chris Withrow |
| 3rd |
Trayvon Robinson | Aaron Miller |
| 4th | Andrew Lambo | Ethan Martin |
| 5th | Xavier Paul | Joshua Lindblom |
| 6th | Jonathan Garcia | Allen Webster |
| 7th | Luke May | Nathan Eovaldi |
| 8th | Kyle Russell | Garrett Gould |
| 9th | Anthony Delmonico | Kenley Jansen |
| 10th | Gerald Sands | Danny Danielson |
| 11th | Steven Caseres | Carlos Frias |
| 12th | Scott VanSlyke | Geison Aguasviva |
| 13th | Brian Cavazos-Galvez | Jon Michael Redding |
| 14th | Pedro Baez | Brett Wallach |
| 15th | Austin Gallagher | Justin Miller |
| HON | Gorman Erickson | Travis Schlichting |
Some big whiffs on that list. While I like calliing Elbert a WAL(Wild Ass Lefty), when it comes to my rankings I've always given him the benefit of the doubt because of his potential. Last year I saw a marked increase in his command that I thought would pave the way for future major league success. Without knowing the particulars of Elbert's situation I'm going to sit him out of the mid-season ranking and take another look at the end of the year.
Danny Danielson was my 2nd biggest whiff. I must have really over estimated his skill set if he himself thought so little of his abilities that he quit this early in his career. On the hitting side Steven Caseres looks like I totally over rated him. My thinking was that he'd be able to hit RHP enough to become some part of of a platoon option but right now that does not seem possible. Gorman Erickson has been disappointing but I only gave him an Honorable Mention.
On the plus side I did have Sands ranked above Van Slyke and 10th on the positional prospect list. I think that was a fairly high ranking for Sands given his draft position and age. I also had Jonathan Garcia ranked fairly high and I continue that trend below.
Regarding the Mid-Season ranking below. I've been fairly aggressive with the positional rankings as Sands simply forced his way to the top. His destruction of the MWL was impressive, and would have gotten him into the top five if he had simply held is own after his promotion to AA. Since he didn't hold his own but continued his path of destruction in the Southern League, I really had no choice but to make him the top positional prospect. His OPS would be 100 points higher then anyone in the Southern League. He may fall hard in the 2nd half, but for now he's the guy we have been looking for. A power hitter. Keith Law may not be impressed and in the end he may be right, but I think he's missing the boat on Sands. The Sands that was playing in the Midwest League in April 2009 is not the Sands who changed his swing in Ogden in 2009, and has done nothing but rake ever since.
Jonathan Garcia has only had a few abats in the Pioneer League but he's done enough for me to move him a head of the rest of the position players. Looks like Logan White nailed this one.
Tae-Hyeok Nam is only in the Arizona Rookie League, but the 19 year old is powerfully built and looks like he could be a power plant. This pick is mostly hopeful projection.
I love our pitching, haven't really seen enough from the rest of the pack to knock Withrow off his number one ranking. They are young and inconsistent but big arms abound up and down the system. Aaron Miller might be the closest to being ready from the starters. Most of us think Jansen is already ready to unleash his gun on the NL.
One pitcher who I know nothing about is Javier Solano but when you are 20 years old in the Cal League and you put up these kind of K/BB ratio's (38 K's, 5 walks) along with the K/9 dominance (38 Ks in 32 Innings) you get my attention. So he's on the list. Strictly a numbers call.
I'd love to know the one player that was considered untouchable in the recent Lee negotiations because I hope it was not Dee Gordon. I don't really see an untouchable in our system. Lots of great arms, but they all have warts, some smaller then others.
| Mid-Season - Los Angeles Dodgers Top Prospect Ranking |
| Order | Hitter | Age | Level | Pitcher | Age | Level |
| 1st | Jerry Sands | 22 | AA | Chris Withrow | 21 | AA |
| 2nd | Jonathan Garcia | 18 | Rookie | Aaron Miller | 22 | AA |
| 3rd |
Trayvon Robinson | 22 | AA | Kenley Jansen | 22 | AA |
| 4th | Dee Gordon | 22 | AA | Ethan Martin | 21 | A+ |
| 5th | Xavier Paul | 25 | AAA | Allen Webster | 20 | A |
| 6th | Ivan DeJesus | 23 | AAA | Nathan Eovaldi | 20 | A+ |
| 7th | Andrew Lambo | 21 | AA | Garrett Gould | 18 | Rookie |
| 8th | Mario Songco | 21 | A | Matt Magill | 20 | A |
| 9th | Blake Smith | 22 | A | Brett Wallach | 21 | A |
| 10th | Tae-Hyeok Nam | 19 | Rookie | Rubby De La Rosa | 21 | A |
| 11th | Lucas May | 25 | AAA | Elisaul Pimentel | 21 | A |
| 12th | Kyle Russell | 24 | AA | Josh Lindblom | 23 | AAA |
| 13th | Pedro Baez | 22 | A+ | Carlos Frias | 20 | Rookie |
| 14th | Anthony Delmonico | 23 | A+ | Javier Solano | 20 | A+ |
| 15th | Leon Landry | 20 | Rookie | Justin Miller | 22 | AA |
| HON | Russell Mitchell | 25 | AAA | Steven Ames | 22 | A |
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Players who I considered
Tim Sexton, Josh Wall, Jamie Hoffman, Jamie Pedroza, Jake Lemmerman, and Michael Pericht.
Who do you guys think I should have included, and who is on this list that you think I’m drinking to much koolaid?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm not high on Josh Lindblom
Just from what I’ve read on here, he seems like he isn’t gonna make it. I want to add the disclaimer that I have very little knowledge of prospects and I am probably wrong.
I wish Lucas May was higher on your list. Simply because that would mean you had more faith in him. After reading the post from Coolguy about our Catching prospects today, I have little faith in the catchers we currently have. Delmonico gives us a little hope, though.
Good job overall, Phil. Nice work.
Delmonico has been hurt
twice, he may not be able to handle the rigors of catching. He needs lots of reps at catching since he was converted and losing 1/2 a season to injuries two years in a row puts him behind the eight ball.
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What is the story with Lambo?
I know that he has the tools to be a stud, but is going to get his shit straight off the field? Can you give a comp to him that is a current MLer? Rough comp, doesn’t have to be perfect.
TY
Tim Lincecum
{inhaling sound}
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jul 12, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I was hoping for more of an on the field comp
But I should’ve prefaced that in the previous comment :)
does he have that much power potential?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
that's true
I hope Lambo gets his shit together
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Buddy of mine saw some scouts talking about him in Omaha. Right now his velocity is shot and his fastball has zero movement. Starting might have broken his arm for a while.
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Went from being in the hunt as a starter
to being relief pitcher. The only relief pitcher I have a head of him is Jansen.
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They consider Sands untouchable?
they like tha powah!!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
whoops, sorry
I tried re-reading the article to see what you were talking about, and just kinda got caught on the unknown untouchable thing.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
but he’s 22 years old in the Arizona Rookie League and it is his 2nd go round. If the Dodgers think so little of him, I have a hard time thinking much of him. He will need to hit in the MWL to get noticed.
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OT a bit
but how bad is Adam Dunn in LF, is he worse than Manny?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions
He doens't primp and prance
when he makes a play a little league LF can make if that is the question.
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it was not
but funny response anyway. Is he worse defensivley?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They are both bad.
Are you asking metrically or subjectively?
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both, I love it all
Subjectively I’ve heard the word “Lousy” for both of them. Metrically, I’d like to know who’s worse
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is worse, a .44 into the left temple or a .44 into the right temple?
Dunn’s career UZR/150 of -11.2 is better than Manny’s -20.3, but Dunn’s has declined every year from 2006 to 2009 to pretty bad levels. He hasn’t seen the OF this year, with the Nats hiding the iron glove at 1B.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
which is worse?
Left temple obviously, I go with Keith on this one. Only reason I’m asking, is because MLBTR is saying Dunn is becoming less and less enthused about an extension with the Nats, and despite his obvious defensive shortcomings, that is a legitamite power bat. I remember the Dodgers were looking at him if Manny didn’t sign. Not saying we should sign him, but something to think about.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless you can one year contract him, I wouldn’t even think about it. TTO guys can lose all their talent near instantly and his glove is so bad that he’s really not even a good player.
by regfairfield on Jul 12, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
true, true
though I hate the DH, guys like Dunn are a legitamite reason for the NL to have one. (gah, I feel like I need a shower now.)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Your pitching list is terrific. Top 7 guys have really nice ceilings.
Not a huge fan of the hitters after the first 3.
I wish some of the top pitchers
were closer to the Major League level, but I like the 9 or 10. Anyone in the top 3 gonna get a look in AAA this year or are they staying in AA for the year because of age and experience?
The Dodgers
kind of treat AA as AAA, with AAA being a stomping ground for MLB backups and AA being where all the prospects get promoted from. Wouldn’t look too much into not getting promoted any more than I would compare our A and High-A teams.
I still believe Gordon could be special. Considered raw and jumped from A- to AA. Walk rate needs to go up. I also like Lambo and Dejesus.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 12, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Great list.
I’d put Gould above Eovaldi And Webster above Martin based on command (Minus his last start). I wish our offense was as deep as our pitching :/
Yup
None of our top hitters was drafted in the first three rounds, Gordon was drafted in the 4th. Next? Garcia in the 8th.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 12, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Im really surprised Garcia is ahead of Trayvon
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 12, 2010 6:07 PM PDT reply actions
I see the higher ceiling
but Trayvon is having a very solid season in AA
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 12, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
They both play 1B.......
They both wear their pants low…..
someone help me here, I’m struggling here.
They are both represented
by the finest agent on the planet.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ha
Are you saying he advises his clients to wear numbers on their backs that represent the millions of dollars they will be making?
by Julio Nievas on Jul 12, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
they both have Gold Gloves
only difference is, Fielder bought his with his fat contract that Boras is gonna get for him.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
After Prince ran to our clubhouse last year, I want nothing to do with his baby antics.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I broke up with HanRam's swing last year
for Evan Longoria’s swing.
But I do miss Hanley from time to time… :)
Did you want to remain
friends with Hanley’s swing? ;-)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
@OldHossRadbourn RT @jorgearangure: This is a perfect event for H. Ramirez since he doesn’t have to run anything out.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jul 12, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOu know what?
That does it. Yes, me too. I’m going to go out with the buddies to play some ball too.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 12, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
@ChadMoriyama Has anybody said George Sherrill should be pitching for the HR Derby yet? :o
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
lol
i assure you, that doesn’t express how loud I am laughing at that.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Blue Jays
open to three or four team trades. Let’s get them to help us with getting Oswalt!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 12, 2010 6:56 PM PDT reply actions
So
if you are one of the umpires working the HR Derby calling fair/foul,
Is this an honor or is this punishment for a shitty 1st half?
Depends
Do you like spending your vacation time in Anaheim?
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
TELL ME ABOUT THE KOREAN GUY!
i’m half korean and was born and raised there. i’m so happy we have a promising korean prospect haha!
Saturday game on FOX
The Dodgers’ schedule (and the Cardinals’ schedule) lists the Saturday game as at 1:00 pm on FOX. However my TV’s channel guide tells me that it’s going to be Yankees vs. Rays. I trust that this is just a mistake, and desperately hope that it doesn’t mean that FOX in Santa Barbara (Cox Cable) is suddenly going to start treating Santa Barbara as in some other region. I certainly got the last three FOX games, including two days ago, as the Dodgers game. I know that the channel guides tend to be put together by some 3rd-party company: I hope that it, or FOX, just got this wrong. Do any of you down in LA with Time Warner or some other cable company see the same mistake? (That would greatly improve chances that it is indeed a channel guide mistake.)
Gordon
KLaw is still high on Gordon, so I would not drop him so much, especially since he is in AA. Gordon, in scouts term, has plus speed, and plus defense (arm, range). He does need to walk more.
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This could be interesting
I’m higher on Sands then Gordon, Law thinks Sands is a non prospect but still likes Gordon. Gordon looks to me like a guy who will be a roto god but not a very good SS. A line from Gordon of .275/.315/.350 with most of the power coming from speed doubles/triples not much gap power. Maybe the defense will be the difference maker, going by scouts he can make any play but I simply don’t trust minor league defensive scouts, they seem to be wrong so often, so I’ll have to reserve judgment on his defense until I see it. Given his little frame one also has to wonder if he could handle the rigors of a full time gig at SS.
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I know this is a Dodgers blog
but someone must bash Deandre Jordan. He looks terrible, and literally looks just as bad or worse than last year. Ill cut him some slack because this is the 1st summer league game but it doesn’t look promising
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 12, 2010 9:06 PM PDT reply actions
Cut him some slack
It’s summer league… Kind of like veteran football players on mini-camp… Just going thru the motions maybe…
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves
by angelofdeath on Jul 12, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you cut Loney slack if he struggled in the Arizona Fall League in his third year in the league?
by Michael White on Jul 12, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
If he turned it on when the season starts… But that’s just me I guess…
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by angelofdeath on Jul 12, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The whole team looked so bad I thought Dunleavy was coaching the summer league team.
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A very nice glimpse of Broxton
The Steve Dilbeck (believe it or not) interview gets to know Broxton a bit:
Manny's rehab fail
Third straight 0-3 night in a row – 0-9 in all, with 5 K’s. Yet somehow he manages to have a BA of .077 – must be from the earlier rehab back in May. Not promising. Will he take two weeks to get back to form? He was doing so well before the injury.
Hey, even a Detroit writer thinks there's an east coast bias
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"As for the Dodgers
they thought setup reliever Hong-Chi Kuo and hot-hitting shortstop Rafael Furcal were more than worthy — before they were named as replacements. Torre called Kuo “the best-kept secret in the game.”
Manuel eventually heard, picking Kuo Sunday.
Furcal, Torre said, “matches up with anyone in either league.” But Furcal had to wait until Jose Reyes was hurt on Saturday.
“It doesn’t matter,” Furcal said early last week. “They pick people who have to go. I’m just trying to help my team win a championship.”
And that one they don’t vote on."
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Since he bought the Yankees
While they have won more World Series and Pennants, only 4 teams did not at least play in one World Series, Cubs, Nationals, Rangers and Mariners.
Yankees 7 World Series, 11 Pennants
Athletics 3 World Series, 5 Pennants
Reds 3 World Series, 3 Pennants
Phillies 2 World Series, 5 Pennants
Dodgers 2 World Series, 5 Pennants
Cardinals 2 World Series, 5 Pennants
Twins 2 World Series, 2 Pennants
Blue Jays 2 World Series, 2 Pennants
Marlins 2 World Series, 2 Pennants
Red Sox 2 World Series, 4 Pennants
Pittsburgh 1 World Series, 1 Pennant
Orioles 1 World Series, 2 Pennants
Tigers 1 World Series, 2 Pennants
Royals 1 World Series, 2 Pennants
Mets 1 World Series, 3 Pennants
Braves 1 World Series, 5 Pennants
Diamondbacks 1 World Series, 1 Pennant
Angels 1 World Series, 1 Pennant
White Sox 1 World Series, 1 Pennant
Brewers 1 Pennant
Padres 2 Pennants
Giants 2 Pennants
Indians 2 Pennants
Astros 1 Pennant
Rockies 1 Pennant
Rays 1 Pennant
Great list
that is quite amazing. It is beyond stunning that Cubs have not gotten to one World Series in all this time. Hard to make fun of Cub fans, the team they support has had quite possibly the longest run of futility when you consider how many good teams they have had that were not able to get into the World Series.
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well, we do have to take a bit of the blame there…heh heh.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Tonight’s Angelfest just became a Yankeefest.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
there will almost certainly be
a moment of silence observed before the game.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Followed by a complete lack of silence while Buck and McCarver tell every Steinbrenner story they know over the course of the game. Expect Billy Martin’s name to pop up a lot. I figure Reggie in the booth too, maybe even a Torre interview.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
He was a big part of baseball
nothing wrong with baseball using the All-Star game to celebrate what he brought to the game. We would expect the same when Tommy Lasorda passes away.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I have no problem with a moment being observed.
But If what LBB says happen it will be bad, because this is the All Star Game, and it deserves to be commentated properly. I’m sure numerous specials about Steinbrenner will be made in the future.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
The ASG is a joke anyway. You don’t need proper commentary for an exhibition game.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
i suppose properly
is a relative term.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there a propoer way to commentate an All Star Game?
With position players and pitchers changing every inning, it’s hard to get more than a word in about the actual game, telling stories is all they have. With Joe and Tim, I’d just assume throw Jon Miller, Joe Morgan, Curt Schilling, Mike Krukow, Dave Flemming and Rush Limbaugh in the booth so we can lump all the people in the world I loathe into one set. If you’re going to punish me, might as well give it your all.
Games like this
I’d love to be able to see a alternative broadcast group. A group of Rob Neyer, Keith Law, and Dave Cameron would be entertaining and irritating but in a whole different way.
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Hearing Dave Cameron talk about Andres Torres and Angel Pagan getting snubbed would be entertaining for about three seconds.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Is that two seconds longer
the real crew?
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I miss Vin doing national games
I’m young (23), but I still recall Vin announcing no-Dodgers World Series games when I was a kid.
He did NFL too, for CBS as I remember.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, certainly, I’m just referring to the expected FOX/Buck/McCarver overkill.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, I read this differently. I thought there was ton of footage of the war.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too, but I’m so used to people talking about things like pop music figures in whom I have no interest, I usually figure “must be one of those” and let it pass. But now that you mention it, what’s he talking about?
Players (some) planning to boycott next year's game
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions
Mr. Scott
Your personal view on this law was removed. This is a law that would pit poster against poster, so we will not have that discussion on the main thread. Fanposts with political commentary can be created within reason.
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Sorry I brought up, Phil, if it’s led to ill-will. Feel free to delete if you want.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem with the link
but I’d rather you made a fanpost about it. It is about baseball, but it is also a political hot potato. If posters want to discuss it, I’d rather they discuss it in a thread created for that purpose and not on the main thread.
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George Steinbrenner Is Dead.
Indifference is my feeling. I never really liked the man, but he built some damn good baseball teams. Bearing that in mind, I still tip my hat to George.
I can't help but think of "Seinfeld"'s impersonation of Steinbrenner
as much as I try to think of the real one. Hey, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery…
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George working for the Yankee's
were my favorite shows. Actually any of the shows that actually showed George working were great.
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Wasn't it Larry David playing him too?
I didn’t know that at the time but extremely funny…
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I love the one with the Calzones, haha
Then when George was on vacation and they thought George had died, what a classic.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I'm with you
When I think of Steinbrenner I think of Seinfeld. He was a crazy owner, but he wanted his team to win more than anything. I almost envy Yankee fans during his ownership…but at the same time, yeah, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
This list of players
Makes me realize how freaking awesome Kershaw is at his age.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions
Yes
what is strange about Kershaw is that given what he has accomplished he should be getting they hype they were reserving for Strasburg.
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I like bringing this up too
They’re the same friggin age, yet Strasburg is the second coming and Kershaw is nothing more than inexperienced.
butbutbutbutbutbutbutbutbutbut
the walks…….TEH WALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
To carry this a step further
Let us say Clayton and Strasburg had been recalled at the exact same time this year. Clayton is 22 born on 3/19/88, Strasburg is 21 and will be 22 on 7/20/88 so Clayton is four months older.
Since June 8th when Strasburg was recalled:
IP Hits Runs Walks K ERA
42 32 11 11 61 2.32
Clayton in the same time period
41 32 13 8 48 2.81
One guy had the whole media horde putting him in the HOF and demanding he make the all-star team because America needs to see him. The other was ignored, and continues to be the best kept secret in baseball. It is a bit bizarre.
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If Clayton keeps up that K/BB ratio
the sky is the limit.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And I think it is safe to say
that Keshaw’s skills are not declining. Nothing like a K rate going from 8.4 to 9.7 to 10.3 as a starting pitcher.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Kershaw is so very close to knocking Kemp to my 2nd favorite player
I’m going to start to save for a Kershaw jersey pretty soon. I’ve been deciding between a Kemp or Kershaw jersey for a while now, and I think I’ve chosen Kershaw.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Strasburg had been on the college stage before he got to the majors, but more importantly there was the Boras-generated “how much will he cost” drama. We all tuned in to see if the reality was worth the hype. On the other hand, Kershaw has labored effectively but quietly within the “aceless Dodgers need pitching” trope. He needs a big game on the national stage to break out of that, or else a decorum confrontation with A-Rod.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought he had a big game against the Yankees. But, he didn’t get the W. He needed more grit.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Always more grit
maybe he should have just brushed back Jeter with a couple 95mph MY COAST IS > YOUR COAST pitches then dropped the deuce on the outer black for strike 3. Would that have gotten any attention? :)
And more yelling about getting off his mound. Damn kids with their rock n roll music…
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
not to mention
their Zima, hula hoops, and pac-man video games.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I have to say, I am perfectly fine with Kershaw being under the radar still.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering the Dodgers have been in the NLCS for the past two years, it’s interesting that Kershaw doesn’t have much more recognition.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
you could use that sentence for just about anyone on the Dodgers with the possible exception of Manny. Unless Kemp gets in trouble again.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I suppose you can’t call a Dodgers-Rockies tilt “the national stage,” but beating Jimenez was awesome. My favorite game of the year so far.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This would be different if he played in the East.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
If Kershaw had gone to college I have a feeling Kershaw may have been going head to head with Strasburg for top draft pick
I think Kershaw would have been a Junior in 2009 so he would have been in the same situation as Strasburg.
There’s no way I’d ever not wanted to have drafted Kershaw in 2006, but it would have been interesting to see Kershaw vs Strasburg for the top draft spot last year. Obviously Strasburg’s got the 100 MPH heat and the crazy movement and everything, but I can’t imagine there wouldn’t have been a ton of talk about Kershaw as well.
These guys are close to the same age so I imagine down the line there will some comparisons between the two. I would LOVE to see Kershaw face Strasburg in early August…oh man.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I would pay to see that
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I’d love to see Kershaw shove it against Strasburg in October like he did Ubaldo. Though I get the feeling that since society is so information-starved (by that I mean ADHD and needs a new piece of information every second), great performances are swept under the rug more often than they used to. Bad games are held against players for their careers, great games last until the next outing.
When I looked up Kershaw’s minor league stats for the pre-season profile it was remarkable. The guy absolutely dominated every level.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
CoolGuy has his 1st base review up
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/13/1567330/state-of-the-minor-league-system
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Well it appears our chances of signing Lee has reached an all new low.
The LSU third string QB has left the team, meaning now that Lee would be the next man in the depth chart. Keep in mind that he’s behind two junior quarterbacks, so he could probably see playing time his sophomore/junior year. Also, the LSU baseball team suffered the loss of two starting sophomore pitchers to Tommy John surgery. So that gives Lee more reason to stay. And Cameron Bedrosian (“The Camster”), an LSU signee, signed with the Angels five days ago…
The only light I see in all this is that from all the reports out there, not one has a quote from Lee saying that he’s staying in LSU. It’s like he doesn’t speak at all.
Sounds like he'd get playing time either way
only difference is a few million dollars.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Here is my two cents, my ten cents is free:
Zach Lee wants to go to college for the college experience. The fact that others are hurt or gone won’t affect his college experience in the slightest.
Playing time with him (as far as baseball is concerned) is a non-issue as well. He cannot up his draft status any higher than the first round by not signing this year. Playing college ball is fun and all, but take the money young pup. Throwing that hard, there is no telling when your arm may pop and you’ll never play again.
a nuisence
who sent, you sent for me?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Throwing that hard, there is no telling when your arm may pop and you’ll never play again.
Seriously. We aren’t talking about a guy going back for his senior season for football, we are talking about a guy being offered millions of dollars right now, to not have to take the risk of at least three years of football AND baseball, and what could happen to his body.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Maybe he'd rather be a
professional quarterback then a pitcher. With most football position players I’d recommend baseball but a quarterback as highly rated as him it is different. He can get his college education, be a big man on campus, then if all goes according to plan he gets drafted and is set for life, going right into the pro’s skipping any minor league drudery. I think if I’m Lee I’m going to college. Minor League life sucks compared to college life and Pro Football. Guess it comes down to how much he loves being a quarterback.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Tommy John surgery...
Might that be a reason for him NOT to go to LSU? If it was me, I’d be freightened that the same fate might await me, and I’d never be able to cash in on a big bonus. Just a thought….
by wonderphenom on Jul 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather be the biggest man on campus
then riding buses for four years. Quality of girl on LSU campus compared to Orden – “Priceless”.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
sounds like an 18 year old's logic
or however old Lee is.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm with Phil
normally I would always think “take the money” whenever possible, but I’m thinking from my perspective.
Guys as good as Lee can get insurance policies to cover themselves in case of career-threatening injury. At some point, there will be a life-altering payday for him, even if he doesn’t take it now.
What he can never do after the fact is go back and be the big man on campus and experience that.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Lebron disagrees with that last statement.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
you win
I forgot about the insurance policies.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well played Gurnee
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Having known a few examples of the
insurance policy deal, it is not an inexpensive option, plus the NCAA makes sure that there are no transfers of money to the player (or player’s family) to cover the premium.
And you are not going to take out one for more than a few million bucks because of the cost.
Well he isn't going to make
more then a few million bucks on his signing bonus anyways.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
What percentage of players of Lee’s caliber suffer a career-ending injury while still in college?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats kind of almost impossible to really figure out
but there are a ton of kids every year who injure themselves and are never the same.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
But we are talking quarterbacks
which is probably on the low side compared to the other positions.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
On insurance...
Does anyone have clue how this works? Does the player need an offer in writing? What’s the time period on the policy? 5 years? My gut sense is that the premiums on a $3,000,000 policy it would be too expensive for most families to fund – otherwise, what insurer would take it on???
by wonderphenom on Jul 13, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone took that very personally, lol
And who could see why??? lol, jk
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
making a blanket statement about where a person grows up
is stupid.
The concussion thing is right on.
are there examples of young married players from any region in the country?
I am willing to bet that there are.
So you think because you know of a few guys that
are from the South that married early, this will convince me that the statement “he is from the south dumb kid is probably already engaged” is not dumb?
Dude
I’m probably way overboard here. You are probably right, but people from the south have this stupid pride for region thing. I can’t explain it and I’m not saying it is right. It’s not a “the south will rise again” thing, just a sense that the rest of the country automatically forms the “they are stupid” arguement and you have to prove otherwise. Does that make sense?
I like you and don’t want any shit between us. Please send me the link when you get it finished. I would love to read it.
Chad Billingsley is not a fair comparison
His wife is smoking hot. I’d have locked her up long term too.
Not sure exactly how old he was, but he has been with his current wife since college.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha. I can honestly say I’ve never seen her.
My wife finds Billingsley attractive.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Drafted Dodger pitchers married or engaged include
Chad Billingsley
Jonathan Broxton
Scott Elbert
Clayton Kershaw
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Regarding Lambo
I have it on good authority that Lambo will be spending this off season with the Mattinglys. And not that it matters, but Lambo apparently popped positive on his drug test as he reported to spring training, not during the season. It doesn’t really matter but at least he was keeping his nose clean during the season.
it was pot
i’m not sure if there was an official announcement, but there is no doubt.
Most of my pot smoking friends know how to get past drug tests. So I wonder if he didn’t care or he isn’t a habitual user.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
it seems that he was with people a few days before he was supposed to report and thought it would be out of his system.
Players can still drink alcohol, right? During the season?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I'm not sure about Minor Leaguers
but I would guess as long as they’re old enough.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep, plus once you make it to the bigs you can smoke all you want. (See: Beimel, Joe)
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
My friend saw Lambo’s dad at the beach this weekend. He jokingly mentioned that Andrew was not allowed to hang out with certain ethnic groups anymore.
i figured
I should have put an lol in there, as I thought it was funny.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
He'd have the same amount of pop that he has now
Maybe that’s why they like Loney so much. He reminds them of Don Mattingly. No pop, good D, good guy, no rings. Hopefully the latter changes.
Mattingly was a beast
before he started to break down. FOr a four year stretch his worst SLG was .537, and worst HR total was 23 (followed by 35, 31, 30). His lack of pop had nothing to do with not having power.
Yeah,
he is a borderline HOF for a reason, for a stretch he was the man.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
If someone today had Don Mattingly's career line
They’d assume roids. Had great seasons at age 23-26, was good 27-28 then fell off. Funny how things change.
Not really
we knew he had serious back problems. I take it you were not around when Donny boy was playing?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a peak guy
I’d rather have the best hitter for a short period then a very good hitter for a long time. Give me Albert Belle at his peak over Harold Baines.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I was
My earliest baseball memory is the Joe Carter home run though. I only remember the Dodgers winning the division then wild card in 95/96 and getting swept twice.
Random ?
I am calling in sick tomorrow to just work on sending out resumes to a ton of places. Does anyone know of a good spot in pasadena to hunker down for the day? I was thinking of some place like Panera Bread.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions
Libraries, while awesome, are not nearly as delicious as Panera.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
They are literary delicious
This sounded funnier in my head…typing it out and misspelling it made it sound less funny.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
literarily?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
That was the play on word part. I thought about adding the ly
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Classic
The nice thing about a place like Panera is the breakfast and lunch options with free wi-fi and endless supplies of coffee and drinks
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Lovebirds Cafe still in existence? Colorado just east of Lake. Get the Thanksgiving Dinner sandwich. Yummy.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s still there but I’ve never tried it.
Pasadena’s best kept secret, sandwich wise, is Tede’s Cafe on Union & Raymond. Unbelievably great, though a bit pricey.
by silverwidow on Jul 13, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
What is on a Thanksgiving Dinner sandwich? Turkey, cranberry sauce, stuffing?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Yep, with gravy poured over the whole thing. Eat it with a fork and knife.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
O_O
I MUST HAVE THAT!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
If you are a (San Gabriel) Valley girl
Try Tallyrand in Burbank, on Olive near Verdugo. They make a good one.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not, but I can make it over to Burbank, I believe. Thanks for the tip!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I do not
I do work there, but I live elsewhere in the SFV. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Ah I see, lol
Would that be a kind of far commute to Northridge then? Then again, I know nothing of that area really, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I don’t understand the question.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
He’s asking how far it is from Northridge to Burbank I think.
And the answer is, not really far.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's not
but you’ll probably stab yourself in the eye trying to get through all the traffic.
From Sherman Oaks to Burbank, not that bad.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Center of the west SFV
Aren’t you old enough to remember the Northridge earthquake?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Burbank is in the San Fernando Valley.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And that is fact
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I defer to you guys. Where does one valley end and the next begin?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
For me
Glendale is the center point with the West Side part of the San Fernando Valley and the East side part of the San Gabriel Valley. If you take a helicopter ride you can see the demarcation line running down Brand Blvd.
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I'm partially in agreement with Times
I think of a certain portion of west Glendale being physically part of the SFV, but I think of none of Glendale being part of the SGV. To me, the valleys don’t border each other, with east Glendale and Eagle Rock being in between the two, and the SGV starting with Pasadena.
(I speak from the perspective of being an SFV resident and having attended grades 5-12 in Eagle Rock.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The times has the “Verdugo’s” which includes Tujunga, Sunland, Glendale and Pasadena.
I’ve never heard anyone refer to this area by that name before. Tujunga and Sunland were always considered part of the SFV. Pasadena, La Canada, La Crescenta and Altadena were considered the San Gabriel Valley, at least in my mind. I always saw Glendale as half and half.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Having lived in Glendale
the Verdugo’s were used all the time. I can agree with the LA Times assessment. It is good to have that separation between the SFV and the SGV.
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And Delias Man will appreciate this, growing up I considered everything in the Harbor area to be San Pedro (at least the parts which were LA City.) I probably hadn’t heard of Harbor City, Wilmington, or Harbor Gateway until a few years ago.
If it was south of Watts in LA City, I thought it was San Pedro.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
To me
La Canada, La Crescenta, Montrose, Sunland, Tujunga and north Glendale are the “Foothill communities”, but Verdugos works nicely also. Pasadena and Altadena are SGV.
Verdugo is the family name of one of the original Ranchero land owners.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
OT: Dodger Tickets
If i paid for tickets to August 7th expecting it to be a strasburg start, then he gets moved to the 6th, will I be able to move my tickets up a day or will they make me pay?
You will have to buy tickets again
there are no refunds or exchanges.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
That
and the 7th instead of Kuroda Strasburg is going to be Padilla and some nobody from Washington.
Having sat there only once
Not really qualified to give yeah or nay to those seats but not a big fan of them, for better views of Strasburg (or any pitcher) either Field Level behind home plate (slightly going out toward the bases respectively) or “Fastball Alley” the loge section situated in the same location.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
X. Paul and Luke May
are getting up there in terms of age. At what point are they no longer prospects but just extra depth for the Dodgers in case of an injury?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
And should X. Paul be listed as MLB for now?
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess
but in a few days he’ll be back at AAA.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
When they are 28
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Both guys are out of options as of April 2011.
by silverwidow on Jul 13, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers All-Star starters batting 7th
Ethier is the 10th Dodger to do so, with the previous nine covering 11 games.
Collectively, Dodger starters batting 7th in the All-Star Game have just 3 hits in 28 at-bats.
I understand that George Steinbrener is an iconic personality
but asking Pete Carroll non-stop questions about George when pete has never met him is ridiculous
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 13, 2010 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
source?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I wish they would interview George Constanza
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
so what do we all think about the AS game?
NL has the pitching advantage, but AL has a better lineup?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
Posted a fanshot: Phil Wallace takes down Plaschke
on Dodger Stadium vs Angel Stadium.
Kudos to Wallace for really nailing him.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Wallace is right about the lines of sight. Some seats at Angel Stadium are brutal in that regard. I sat once where the default position is that you face the left fielder, therefore you have to turn your head the entire game.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
That is biggest reason why
Plaschke fails, but then he probably has never sat in those seats. You literally will leave the stadium with a crick in your neck. I think Angel stadium is more kid friendly but is about the only advantage I see between the two.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Why has this story lived for two days?
I mean, does anybody really care what Plaschke thinks about anything? His columns are bad ideas, poorly expressed, and easily ignored.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I know it is Plascke, but this seems to be a common feeling among any non-Dodger fans, so I found the response to be informative and helpful to the conversation.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t have any problem with the response. Well, maybe one problem: that such a response exists. I guess I just don’t see the need to dissect Plaschke’s opinion about anything. Fisking him is shooting fish in a barrel, because he’s wrong about everything and can’t write a convincing argument.
Even if I stipulate that you’re right — that there’s a common feeling among non-Dodger fans that Angel Stadium is a better place to see a game than Dodger Stadium — who cares? The Dodgers aren’t starved for attendance or fans… it seems like the only reason to respond to Plaschke is the feeling that somebody has insulted “our house.” And I guess my response to that is — no matter how nice your house is, there’s going to be someone who thinks it’s crap and write about it. That’s not a conversation I even want to get into — it just feeds the beast and encourages more “Dodgers put out a lousy product” articles. Plaschke thinks he’s fomenting controversy, so I’m guessing he’s not chastened at all by articles like this.
He’s just using the power of his platform to be a toothless bully. And in the end, your mother was right: the best way to deal with a bully is to ignore him.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, like I said I had resisted reading it for some of the reasons
you mention. But the fact is it had lived on, I had it pointed out to me by a couple of (not obnoxious, just curious) friends and while I don’t know why Plaschke continues to get published or read (or given time on ESPN, bleh), the fact is he is, so I’m glad someone intelligent at least posted a rebuttal.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
And by rebuttal I mean
something in particular that can live on, on the web, as long or hopefully longer than Plaschke’s nonsense.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Let me put this another way.
What does this conversation add to anything?
We seem to have an endless cycle. Plaschke begins the cycle with one of two ideas — either he thinks the Dodgers put out a mediocre product, and it is his responsibility as a journalist to report on that and point it out, or he thinks that he can foment controversy and sell newspapers with such an opinion. Either way, he writes articles that support that. Others respond, fomenting exactly the controversy that he’s aiming for. He then feels justified with more articles reinforcing the same point of view. That’s not a conversation, because there’s nothing to be learned or gained. It’s just so much blather.
And now I’m just adding to the blather, so I’ll stop and shut up — but in my own defense, I’ll note that by stopping and shutting up, I’ll be doing exactly what I’m asking of others on this issue.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
FOX Sports: MLB MLBONFOX
Joe Buck calls his 11th @AllStarGame. Second to only Curt Gowdy, who called 13. Tim McCarver is calling 19th, the most by any broadcaster.
When Joe Buck is eligible for the Hall of Fame, they will note that he announced over 11 All star games.
by Tripon on Jul 13, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There is no eligibility criteria
For Broadcasters to be given the Ford Frick Award.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Has anyone been to the grilled cheese truck? It just seems overrated for the wait in line and the price.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
That is what I am thinking. I am sure it is tasty, but I imagine the wait and price does not trump the traditional one I can make at home.
A taco truck I can understand, but this just seems like a stretch of the fad to me. And the great sandwiches everyone talks about on Yelp can cost up to $8.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh agreed. I like adding turkey and tomato, maybe some avocado and lemon pepper
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
adding turkey just makes it a regular sandwich
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Or just melt territory
not a Panini if it don’t got the grill lines.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
i agree with you, but togo’s does not. I asked for a new panini last week, and they basically smashed/heated the regular sandwich.
One more reason not to like Togo's
Maybe someday they’ll get a meatball sandwich that doesn’t suck.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Did you notice the premium trucks
will be at the Dodger initial Flea Market?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I might go
it sounded interesting, would be curious to see how different it is compared to the Rose Bowl. Plus I’d like to see all the premium trucks in one place.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I had some stuff from the kogi truck a few weeks back
I was kind of underwhelmed, but that could be because everyone had been hyping it so hard.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
You got some without waiting for an hour and a half?
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess which Dodger has an OPS of .908 in his last 99 at bats
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
loney?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
winner
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
1st baseman having an insane July
and Buster Posey was tops
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2010&month=7
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet no one expected to see Casey Kotchman's name on that list
if he continues to swing a hot bat, do they trade him, play him at first Smoak at DH, and sit Milton?
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If we lower the bar to 250 PA on the season
(it would be 273 PA to qualify based on 3.1 PA per the 88 Dodgers games so far)
the Dodgers have three of the top six and four of the top 13 batting averages in the NL:
1) Furcal .333
5) Ethier .324
6) Manny .322
13) Loney .309
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
meant that to say 200 PA (Manny has 216)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Stuff GMs Say
While one might think that a GM would point out the need for a more consistent offense or the lack of ability to win within the division, this one also puts blame on what I would think is the team’s strength, pitching.
"What I’m more surprised is that I don’t think our pitching has been as advertised. It hasn’t been close. Too many deep counts, we leave the defense on the field too long, too many pitches per inning…
"We don’t like to talk about bases on balls but we know the stat there. (They lead the majors in walks.) We’ve got to throw more strikes. We’ve got to pitch more to contact. One of the things you can do for your offense is get them off the field and we haven’t been able to do that.
"And if your pitching is as advertised or as you expect it to be, when you’re going through a spot when you aren’t swinging the bat, you’ve go to have some people putting up zeroes or have one- or two-run games and we haven’t had that. It’s been disappointing."
Pitching to contact might be the worst popular baseball saying right now. It’s not surprising that its coming from Sabean, and Ned probably adheres to it too, but its dumb on so many different levels.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned’s team certainly doesn’t draft like he adheres to it.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers just barely below SF
in pitches per PA (3.90), the Giants are at (3.91), San Diego is second to the bottom at 3.95)
St. Louis, the place where pitching to contact is an art, is at 3.75 pitchers per plate appearance.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
We have one starter with an ERA+ over 100, our pitching has been terrible overall.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Cause if there’s anyone you can count on to give you a solid outing day in day out, it’s Vicente Padilla.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Our big three have been solid
“terrible” is not a word I’d use to describe them
http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=1b&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2010&month=7
and Padilla has been great since his DL stint.
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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong Link
http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.aspx?team=Dodgers&pos=all&stats=sta&qual=0&type=1&season=2010&month=0
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
League average ERA+ for a starter is 95. Kershaw is at 135, Kuroda as at 100, Bills is at 94. That’s not incredible.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Those 3 are all in the top 15 in FIP and XFIP in the NL. Thats pretty damn solid. ERA+ obviously is based on ERA, and our shitacular defense doesnt help with that. Padilla would be right in front of Chad and Clayton in terms of XFIP if he qualified. 4 of the top 17 in XFIP in the NL? I’ll take that any day.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I used the word "solid" not "incredible"
and that sounds solid to me. Given our defense maybe it is incredible.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree. Our defense, and especially the outfield defense, has been so bad that you just cant look at ERa or ERA+ and make a judgment. I mean, 4 of the top 17 XFIPs in the NL? Thats really, really good, even if one of them is crazy nutso Padilla.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the point was that Ned was right in saying that starting pitching has been our biggest problem. It’s also something that’s easier to improve than defense right now.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you talking about the quote BH posted? That was from Brian Sabean.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 13, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh. Well that’s just dumb as shit then.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned didn't say that
but if he had, he’d been wrong. I’m a little surprised to see you using ERA+ as your criteria.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodger defense blows
using ERA as opposed to FIP or x-FIP doesn’t make sense.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Again
ERA+ is a crap way to judge, because Bills and Kuroda have been so much better than their ERAs and ERA+s would indicate.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Right but from the GM soundbyte stand point, we allow lots of runs=bad pitching.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are going off what a GM says, one who might actually value ERA very highly, sure
But for pretty much all of us in here, we realize that ERA is nice and all, but Livan Hernandez is not a better pitcher than Chad Billingsley, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
GMs don’t value ERA, but talking about FIP is a great way to get the public to turn on you.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You are the one who said our pitching has been terrible overall.
We don’t much care what Sabean thinks on the matter.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
Andrew is bewitching us by playing GM
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
People who oppose sabermetrics, basically. I think the term came from the image of an old scout wearing a straw hat that doesn’t look at new stats and just relies on his eyes to tell how good a player is. I’ve seen the term thrown around by big sabermetrics people on some forums.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
ah, i see
conjured up a different image for me
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You could always go with Strikeouts and walks
Bills is doing well in regards to those categories this year.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Negative Nancy
Padilla has been great since coming to LA save for a couple starts when he was hurt at the beginning of this season.
Vicente Padilla is a notoriously inconsistent pitcher.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The Giants have 4
with an ERA+ over 114
by bhsportsguy on Jul 13, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I never really liked the OPS+/ERA+ type stats
As a player, my stats shouldn’t rely on other people’s stats. ERA+ shows my ERA as it compares to the rest of the league, and while this may be a good indicator of potential upgrades, it does not accurately reflect how poorly or well I am doing. If the average OPS were 1.000 (I know, insane) and I had an OPS of .950, I would have an ERA+ under 100.
Like I said, great for determining upgrades, poor at actually reflecting stats.
If everyone was OPSing 1.000 and you were OPSing .950, it would be fair to call you the worst player in baseball and something to be upgraded.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my point. It could show upgrades but it wouldn’t show poor performance necessarily. There are so many guys with sub-3 ERAs this year that a guy at 3.50 is kind of high when that’s always been a good number.
Just for argument's sake
In 2007, Billingsley’s 3.31ERA was a ERA+ of 135.
In 2008, he had a much lower ERA of 3.14 and his ERA+ was 133.
An extreme, this year, Chad’s 2007 ERA would only be good for an ERA+ of 110.
Relative stats tell nothing of the individual.
It tells you about the competition he’s facing.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
True again
But how can you judge a pitcher’s performance by the pitcher he’s facing? That’s unfair and irrational.
Kuroda and Bills aren't over 100?
Even so, that just shows you that ERA+ is crap. Bills has a 3.40 FIP and a 3.77 (might be a little off) xFIP (for those that love it so much), would anyone see that and say Bills has been below average…I dont think so.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
ESPN Insider has a headline:
Loney gone after 2011? The Dodgers could use more pop out of their first baseman. Will they ever get it?
Michael White
is not writing for ESPN Insider?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
if Loney is gone after 2011 (which I doubt)
Sandman?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sandman should compete for LF sometime next year.
by silverwidow on Jul 13, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Audrey Huff(:
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
It really is. No strategy at all. Well, I guess the strategy of taking the deal, but that’s obviously just an algorithm so there really is no right answer.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Except for the fact that the show can opt to not air it, and you don’t get paid. I know someone that won $250,000 on the show, but that had a chance to walk away with 750K. However, it was only about 15 minutes into the show. If they had taken the 750K, they would just not air the show, and no money is given . This helped restore my faith in humanity after seeing so many people on that show keep going or acting like idiots. You have to ride out the time and make a spectacle of yourself if you want to get paid.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, but the network wants an entertaining show and it needs to take up the 44 minutes of time needed. So, act like an idiot and turn down some great initial offers.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems almost criminal
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I want to call BS on that
If you don’t really have a choice, that’s not a legitimate show and there would have to be a disclaimer. To me that sounds like the cover story for someone who wants to save face when asked why he didn’t take the deal. Besides, isn’t it one of those shows that can end an episode at any spot and pick up where it left off? (I’ve never seen a whole episode.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was on Let’s Make A Deal Saturday and one of the first things in the release is “If the show doesn’t air, we don’t pay you”. Now I assumed that the only reason for this was the show getting canceled, but there could be shadier reasons.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly. If you go up there and are calm, cool, and collect and take a smart offer early, that is not good entertainment….they just won’t air it.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s fine if you want, but the people I know that were on the show and others that tried out say it is in the contract. I agree it can stop in the middle of one, but I have never seen an airing that stops after 15 minutes because someone did so well….maybe because they did so poorly.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Makes sense
If the show doesn’t air, the network doesn’t make money. If they don’t make money, they have nothing to pay you with. I imagine they shoot several more episodes than actually air.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
I wrote “I want to call BS” because I wasn’t sure that I DID want to call BS. It all seems murky to me.
Isn’t there still a jump from “if it doesn’t air, we don’t pay you” to “if you take the deal early, we don’t air that taping?”
Really, this seems like a great, non-crucial topic for a show like 20/20 or Dateline, not that they would ever take on producers of other network shows.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I feel like a little piece of me just died.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
roughly the same amount as when I found out the stabbing of Cheaters host Joey Greco was staged.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
How much
compared to seeing the picture of Vicki from Small Wonder grown up?
Vicki – 0.5% died
Cheaters – 1.4% died
Deal or No Deal – 1.5% died
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear it’s what chicks are into these days, so why not give it a try?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
just bring some glitter
if you go out in the sun
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You gonna start sparklin now?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Nah
’cause the other 97.4% of him died when Robert Pattinson bit him.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny…I felt better after hearing this because people would make some of the dumbest decisions to keep going on in the show.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish Ticketmaster would let you pick which tickets you want and then select the best possible matches. I want to sit on a articular side of the field but if the seating zone stretches to both sides it’ll automatically choose the closest one to home plate. Not necessarily what I want.
You can pick your section on stubhub, if that helps.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It sucks which is why
I’d rather buy in the resale market. Also why pay full retail and ticketmaster fee’s when Stubhub exists. Even after taking into a account crazy % that Stubhub charges, you get a ticket for less then retail and exactly where you want to sit.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers making all Loge and Field level tickets $5 for kids for rest of season
From the Dodgers:
LOS ANGELES – As part of their commitment to providing the best family-friendly experience in Major League Baseball, the Dodgers announced today that starting July 19, kids 14 and under can attend a Dodger game for just $5 with the purchase of every adult ticket on the Field and Loge levels. Two hours prior to each home game, families can purchase up to two $5 kids tickets per paying adult and sit in some of the best seats on the Field and Loge levels, including options behind home plate.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
That is great
Andrew will now be able to get in for $5
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 13, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey there’s some shady places where I don’t get carded.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
sit in some of the best seats on the Field and Loge levels, including options behind home plate.
Sales problems? Didn’t those use to be all sold out to season ticket holders?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Still you don't all of the sudden do this kid friendly thing
because you are a good human being, you do it because sales are slow and you need to find a way to get people’s butts back in the stadium. The Yankee series fiasco by trying to force mini plans on everyone showed that sales are not what they expected.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
But nonetheless
I would expect them to finish near or just below where they were last year in terms of sales, they will finish ahead of the Phillies because they seat so many more people.
They have more crowd pleasing games in the second half (Mets, Phillies, San Diego and San Francisco). Really only the homestand with Colorado and Cincinnati will probably struggle to do well.
I'm pretty sure
in terms of capacity, DS is one of the largest stadiums in baseball
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Fairly certain you’re right. That’s why when people get all up in arms about Dodger fans arriving late etc., I have to point out that not only are you essentially downtown in a city with MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, let alone commuters, there are about 20k more seats there then say, Fenway.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
If the Dodgers were as optimistic about the remaining homestands
why would they cut into those expected sales with new deals like this one?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
My hope was to find a nice George Steinbrenner quote to use as my signature in memorium
But there are none. This will have to do. RIP George.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
My second favorite
“I will never have a heart attack. I give them.”
George Steinbrenner
Too soon?
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Right after this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRShnbiHYo
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
is that the one
where his check signing hand is hurt?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
I also like the one where he’s complaining to Derek Jeter that he’s going out too much based on his Visa bill.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Look how young Jeter looks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7BaQEguYs
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
when?
now, or 1996?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
He must
bathe in the blood of virgins.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
In his attic
is an oil painting of a friggin old Jeter
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What's really weird
is that the oil painting has better range at shortstop.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Get that guy some buttah
cuz he’s on a roll
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
(resisted
urge to make very nasty joke)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You weren’t the only one thinking it lol
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
dangit
As I was hovering over the submit button the thought crossed my mind how that might be interpreted, but I took the risk no one would notice.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Any guesses on how Dre will do in center tonight?
I’m a little concerned. He looks like a stud in the red carpet show, though.
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 13, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions
at least if a ball is hit to the hill in Anaheim
that just means it’s a home run.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier
would almost certainly be a worse CF than Berkman was. In 2002 Berkman spent a lot of time in CF, and he had a UZR of exactly 0. Berkman was never as bad in RF as Ethier is now.
BTW, in 2002 Berkman played 122 games in CF with a 0 UZR while he posted a wOBA of .411. That’s awesome.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
If Pedro Guerrero were on the team, Dre would be the second thing on his mind.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
His new nickname might become Olay Andre
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And then
Dodger Talk callers will say move Andre to CF and trade Kemp for pitching.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
If the Yankees get Crawford
Would they make Gardner available?
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Because it's been discussed before
MLBTR has a feature on potential 3rd base trade targets.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions
Andy LaRoche is totally available
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 13, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i just wonder
if any other team could somehow get Reynolds not to strike out so much.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
So did Piazza
wearing a Mets hat in the “Legends & Celebrities” softball game put to rest any lingering doubt hes going into the HOF as a Met?
I checked the ship's itinerary
The HOF was on it.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
if he went in as a dodger
would we retire his number
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 13, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry
I was thinking the other way.
Gilliam is the non-HOF that is retired.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Piazza
would be different since everyone played their entire or bulk of their years with the Dodgers. Sutton did play 7 years for other teams to help him get to 300 wins but really no one else did anything significant for any other ball clubs.
Rickey
retired a Dodger.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
new post
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/13/1567990/andre-ethier-center-of-attention
That will serve is the de facto ASG thread
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