Andre Ethier, Center Of Attention In Anaheim
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:07 PM PDT
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After 650 games in the majors, including 564 starts, Andre Ethier makes his first start in center field tonight, for the National League All-Star team. Ethier will bat seventh, and is joined in Anaheim by teammates Rafael Furcal, Hong-Chih Kuo, and Jonathan Broxton.
The last All-Star game won by the National League was all the way back in 1996. Mike Piazza of the Dodgers homered and doubled in his hometown of Philadelphia, and took home MVP honors. Teammate Todd Worrell pitched a scoreless inning in relief.
Game Time: 5pm
TV: Fox
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Ticket Deals
The Dodgers are offering $5 tickets for kids for the rest of the season:
As part of their commitment to providing the best family-friendly experience in Major League Baseball, the Dodgers announced today that starting July 19, kids 14 and under can attend a Dodger game for just $5 with the purchase of every adult ticket on the Field and Loge levels. Two hours prior to each home game, families can purchase up to two $5 kids tickets per paying adult and sit in some of the best seats on the Field and Loge levels, including options behind home plate.
More information can be found at Dodgers.com/tickets and Dodgers.com/specials.
Thoughts On Steinbrenner
Several Dodgers offered their thoughts on Yankees owner Goerge Steinbrenner, who passed away this morning at the age of 80.
Tommy Lasorda:
George was a friend who I admired very much. He was a giant in our game and he built an empire. All he was was a winner. He wanted to give the fans a winner, and that's exactly what he did.
Joe Torre:
I will always remember George Steinbrenner as a passionate man, a tough boss, a true visionary, a great humanitarian and a dear friend. I will be forever grateful that he trusted me with his Yankees for 12 years. My heart goes out to his entire family. He will be deeply missed in New York , Tampa and throughout the world of baseball. It’s only fitting that he went out as a world champ.
Don Mattingly:
I am deeply saddened to hear the news of George Steinbrenner’s passing. His vision, passion and commitment to winning, recharged the New York Yankees and revolutionized the game.
I remember a man driven to succeed. He was the owner, "The Boss" and number one fan of the Yankees. Our relationship was built on mutual respect. I will never forget and always be grateful for how he treated me and my family both during my playing days and after I retired.
I will miss him very much and extend my deepest condolences to his wife, Joan, and all the members of the Steinbrenner family.
Frank McCourt:
George Steinbrenner was the first owner to contact me to congratulate me when I purchased the Los Angeles Dodgers. From that day forward we built a strong and meaningful friendship. He was a larger than life owner who cared deeply about winning. George helped shape the game of baseball during his incredible stewardship of the Yankees. My deepest sympathies go out to his wife, Joan and his four children, Hal, Hank, Jennifer and Jessica and the entire Steinbrenner family.
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No need
The NL will win 6-2.
It has been written
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric picks #150
NL 15-0
OOOOO
All over-under questions have to do with mistakes/general idiotness of the announcers. Without knowing the questions or the values, the answer is OOOOO.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
by G.Scott on Jul 13, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you think Frank cares that no one will ever say these nice things about him?
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Tiger Woods was fantastic for Frank McCourt
Doesn’t sound like the words of a guy who cares, just the words of a guy who doesn’t want people to notice.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Look at Dre's beard
Someone’s getting Blake lessons…
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
That beard was the main reason I chose that picture.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, now he’s all groomed and whatnot.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
That's a really good question.
I guess anywhere from scruffy to groomed like that. Tom Hanks from Cast Away? Negatory.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
The precision on the beard border
is too much for me (not that I can even grow a beard along those lines), but seems like something reg would do, if he could grow a beard like that.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
There are a few things I’m 100% against.
Facial hair on white guys under 40 is one of them.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent qualifyer
I would also move to add “unless you’re a lumberjack” to this list.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I’m 1/2 white. Should I grow on just one side of my face?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Or a handlebar!
Sometimes I wish I could grow a beard. I would have some bitchin’ facial hair. It would limit the amount of times I change my hairstyle/dye it.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
have you ever dyed your hair
an unnaturual color? like say blue or pink?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
No, not really
but I did dye it bright red, not quite fire engine, with these ill-advised chunky white blonde highlights my freshman year of college. It was fun. Not as fun as my punk rock haircut, but close.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
The other 1/2 is Chinese
which is wear my facial hair growth genes seem to come from. Maybe I could grow one of these.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Pai Mei
then you can flip it arrogantly after you whoop ass.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there a problem with growing the Kershaw facial hair? Cause when I let it grow out for a couple weeks that’s what I’ve got going on, lmao.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I think Kershaw wins worst facial hair in baseball personally. Sorry.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a fan of this rule
and I seem to agree with reg more than not.
I am in full beard mode right now. I am white, and under 40 (barely)
I hope to never see a picture of Ethier in Braves colors ever again
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
I posted in other thread
but works here.
Ethier would almost certainly be a worse CF than Berkman was. In 2002 Berkman spent a lot of time in CF, and he had a UZR of exactly 0. Berkman was never as bad in RF as Ethier is now.
BTW, in 2002 Berkman played 122 games in CF with a 0 UZR while he posted a wOBA of .411. That’s awesome.
Be honest, who's watching it tonight?
Me. But I may not for the whole game.
P.S- Welcome back, Eric. We all missed you.
I'm not
Last year I just followed along on the game thread and turned it on when Chad was pitching. That sounds about right for tonight.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching
I don’t know why so many are down on the AS game. If it didn’t determine home field advantage couldn’t we all just have fun with it?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll have it in the background, but a BBQ with family will be the main event.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
I have stuff I have to accomplish at home during the evenings this week and I’d rather do them tonight than Thursday night when a game that really, really counts gets played.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I will probably be watching
just to get some baseball reps in.
I was radio only Thursday night (a game I bought a ticket to, and was sad to miss), didn’t see one second on Sunday, and only saw the bottom of the 9th on Friday and the first 5 innings or so Saturday before heading off to the next family reunion get together.
By the way: giant projection screen plus alcohol plus Just Dance for Wii equals fun
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: How much of a douche move is this?
After waiting 3 weeks for a friend to get back to me regarding seeing a movie, I ask him about it point blank about a week ago. He says he wants to see a movie, absolutely, but wondered outloud if any of the movie theaters from his area of the world (SGV, actually) are in Los Angeles.
After a week of not hearing from him, I do the research, see that there are some of the theaters he was asking about in Los Angeles (albeit on the other side of the moon from me). I don’t get a response from him. Later that night, I was able to get in touch with him and ask about when he’s free, and I got this response:
“I’m all booked up for this week, and there are bids going for next week.”
Yeah. Sorry buddy, I don’t want to be friends with you that much, some of the douche might rub off and infect me.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
by "in Los Angeles"
I should say “closer to Sherman Oaks, where he works”.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Free Agency
Is ruining your friendship.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Yes.
Which there aren’t. There’s a Regal at LA Live and an Edwards in Alhambra.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Why does that matter
does he have a free pass or coupons he wants to use.
Very strange.
Not real up on SFV theaters, I know there is an Arclight in SO, and chains in other part of the Valley
Yeah, I believe he does. We do mostly Pacific and AMC out here. Some Mann theaters, I believe.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Aren't the Manns dying out?
The (now) old one in Granada Hills is now a Regency. Outside of Pacific and AMC, we also go to the Regal in Simi Valley occasionally.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wow
I would recommend he have Jim Gray interview him in a staged event, asking about which movie and with whom he will see his next film.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
“Next week, I will take my movie-watching talents to the South Bay.”
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don't think I can top your conclusion
Definitely douchey, no two ways about it, therefore, dispose of him after using.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jul 13, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d. Nearly had Sprite Zero all over the keyboard.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
better yet
have Eric call him and give a “go fuck yourself”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
This "go fuck yourself" will live in infamy for the rest of TBLA's life
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
someone
had it as their sig, though I think they changed it. Can’t remember who it was.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
something like that, if I got it wrong, I’m sorry, my brain is fried :(
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
k3vo
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I KNEW IT WAS A NUMBER
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I'M SORRY.
I’m a little preoccupied, apparently my immunization records (?!) were due at Vandy a few days ago. Oops?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
you just lost 1 point, not the end of the world. Your ability to backtrack over half a thread to respond is unrivaled among TBLA
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
:(
I like points. :(
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Redeemable only in the Ukraine, and other places that are weak :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Ukraine and the folder that holds Lane Kiffin’s coaching record.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
Is it in the trash?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I seem to be batting 1.000 right now. Peace offering of coffee or steak?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
what, what? We were at war? I took ONE point away and we are at Daffy Duck status?
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
Oh cos I made a joke about Lane Kiffin, wasn’t sure if you were responding to that.
Daffy Duck status? No. But since the mental image was so pleasing, I want it to be.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Of course you know, this means war.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
nah, I’m a Wildcats fan. I started on lane kiffin in the first place!
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
How do you feel about losing your coordinators?
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If you get a +1
do you become K4vo?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I actually got locked out of registration once because they said they didn’t have my immunization records. So, I went to the health office, got the shots and it was all good.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. I have to call tomorrow. Joy!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
ASU has a personalized page for each student, kinda like facebook but useful. Links to your booklist, schedule financial aid, housing etc. And a handy big-ass header with anything you may have missed, like right now mine says “Sign your damn promisary notes dude, or you don’t get any money!”
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
My school was just getting into that stuff as I was graduating…
It woudl have saved me from freaking out on people when they wouldn’t let me register.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
UCI has something like that
It was invaluable for me figuring out where the hell I had to be on any given day
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I dunno if they have that for grad students, but I’ll have to look.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Hi.
Grad Student.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
I meant at Vandy.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I don't think I saw this linked here
Short Tony Jackson article on Kuo interviewing Dodgers about Kuo.
“How would you feel,” Kuo asked [Andre Ethier], “if they brought in a left-hander just to pitch to you in the All-Star Game?”
“I can say if I were facing Hong-Chih Kuo, he would probably be afraid that I would get a hit off him, so he probably wouldn’t want to throw a pitch anywhere near the plate.”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
this commercial of kuo is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AdceikFpUk
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
love that one
especially the crowd chanting SUB-AWAY! SUB-AWAY!
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
From ESPN LA/Tony Jackson regarding Loney
Defensively, he is a potential Gold Glover.
Really?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Linked here if you haven’t seen it.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Having said that
I’m glad he’s our first baseman
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
same
especially with Raffy firing balls in the dirt. Fielder ain’t gonna scoop those up.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
So Raffy’s amazing defense thus far is being bolstered by Loney?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Would UZR be affected if Loney couldn't scoop some of his bad throws?
I’m actually not sure on that. But so far Raffy has had a hell of a year defensively, and I’d have to imagine a lot of that goes to Loney helping him as well.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Furcal's UZR or Loney's?
Furcal’s UZR would be hurt if Loney didn’t make a scoop on play most SS make. Not sure about Loney’s though.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
It’s questionable how much it matters. Studies done show it’s a difference of 6 or so runs between really bad and really good first basemen.
FWIW the numbers I’ve seen has Loney as one of the best scoopers of the decade behind…Hee Seop Choi.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
And that’s with every throw, you cut it down to just throws from the shortstop, you’re looking at maybe three runs between Loney and the worst person you can put out there.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
honestly
and with no stats to back me up, yeah. I wonder how many put outs he’d have if Loney didn’t get so many balls out of the dirt. He doesn’t always do it, but when he know’s it’s a close play he does kinda hurry the ball over to first, short-hopping it.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year Loney was top 5 in balls scooped in the dirt
I dont know in how many chances, but still.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
This is the point where it gets difficult. Are we comparing Loney’s scoops against nobody at all being at first base, or the average (or replacement) fielder (or Fielder) at 1B? Sure, there might be a large number of scoops by Loney at the bag, but if the average fielder gets a ton of those anyway the difference between Loney and others might not be so large.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
true
it’s not like I’m really watching other teams going 6-3 on plays. (is that scoring right?)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Aren't there two different questions here?
I mean, to me James Loney IS absolutely a potential Gold Glover.
The question is what does that mean? People win gold Gloves who aren’t as good as the GG voters think they are on defense. For Loney the truth likes somewhere in between in that he’s probably not as good statistically at 1st as some pundits generally think, but he’s still pretty damned smooth as a fielder. And prone to get better still.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
lies somewhere, not likes.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That is the perception, and has been there for years. Based on aesthetics.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The article is TJ's position by position analysis of the 2010 Dodgers so far
It’s hard to read past the first position though:
and his catcher’s ERA is a shade over 4.00.Catcher’s ERA, really? I assume Ellis’ probably sucks because he caught Haeger so much and anyone else so little.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Madz
Hopefully there are some Southern gentlemen who will not use convenience and cost as a factor in deciding to see a film with you in the near future.
Haha
Thanks. I’m sure there will be, but I’m sure I will be ignoring them to make sure I get straight As!!!
Ahh, the irony.
UNLESS he plays baseball. ;)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
If you’re willing to see a movie I’m not picky about the theater ;)
hahah
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
This is why
girls don’t post on sports sites.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hipster?
who’s a hipster? what’s a hipster?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
A hipster nowdays
means someone other people don’t like. Originally it meant something else.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I agree
Seems like it has many meanings now
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
well
I tend to think of hipsters as lazy, unemployed indie rock listeners who all conform to a few basic “non conformity” tenents.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
That’s exactly the definition I thought of.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
They all walk slow because they’ve got nowhere to go.
by regfairfield on Jul 13, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I call shenanigans
The budweiser guy should be drinking PBR.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Ha! Many of those are just dressed weird
But those headbands! I hate those headbands!
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This strikes me as a Simpsons quote
“Who’s a green horn? What’s a green horn?”
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
It’s like we share a brain, haha.
“There’s a crayon in my brain?” points to stomach
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Classic Simpsons episodes are the best of any show I've ever seen
Too bad they ran out of good situations.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
still waiting
for marge to become a robot
“then something happens and dododododo”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
hahah
Do you watch the new episodes still? I gave up like 3 years ago, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I do
I still laugh at them. But there is a difference. I really enjoyed the movie. What was even cooler was it came out on my birthday.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The movie was really good
but besides a few parts of some of the new episodes, I just really didn’t like them.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I found this both hilarious and informative
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Look at those kids
conforming to non-conformity
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
When hipsters started growing
the 70s porno ‘stash, I couldn’t keep a straight face. At all.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Depends on the accent, I guess?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I’m sure I’ll find out soon enough
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
i don't know if I'd survive somewhere else
because I literally cannot help myself with accents. I have to imitate them. I’d be worried about getting jumped because of it.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
OH
Yeah, dude, I have the same problem. I start adopting the vocal mannerisms of who I am around — I think everyone does that, to an extent — but you should have heard me when I came back after one year in Rochester. Good God.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
ha
When I went to Jamaica for my bro’s wedding, his fiancee and a bunch of her friends were New Yorkers. I told them right away that I would do it and to not be offended. They weren’t. You would’ve though we had all just got off the subway.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
My Steinbrenner Moment
As a young sailor in our Navy in 2001 I remember going to New York for Fleet week. The CO of the ship came over the 1MC (ship wide pa system) and told the crew that he had been called by Mr. Steinbrenner and that if we were to show up to Yankee Stadium in uniform that the ushers would do there best to see that we had seats for 2 of the three games that the team would be in town during Fleet week, but he could not get the crew of our ship (USS Kennedy) seats to that 3rd game because, 1 it was Red Sox/Yankees that series and 2 Pedro was pitching that night. I later found out that Mr. Steinbrenner went out of his way to show service members that were in town the best of his crown jewel the Yankees. After finding that out I could not bring myself to hate the Yankees or their owner.
Tony Jackson
Too bad, I used to like him.
MANAGER
B — Torre is and has always been a delegator, leaving much of the details of running the team to his coaching staff. But his handling of the Kemp/Schaefer situation was masterful and appears to have achieved the desired result. His handling of the bullpen might have been even better, although Torre still hasn’t overcome his career-long tendency to rely heavily on certain relievers (see Ramon Troncoso).
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Whaaaaaaaat?! *head explodes*
His handling of the bullpen is better?!? in what way? In that he doesnt have his crappier pitchers pitch and runs his best into the toilet?
never mind,
just read it again, you may proceed with head explodey.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
But it does say
might have been even better
which implies it was already “good” to begin with.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Just more evidence that the world is crazy
or as the Tick said, maybe Im going sane in a crazy world
well to be fair
he thought “SPOON” was a great battle cry. Not saying it doesn’t get attention but…….
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
“if you say that’s what she said one more time I’m gonna pop you”
-Brian Griffin
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Just watched the Karate Kid ending again
[Daniel is about to have his first match in the tournament]
Daniel: All right, so what are the rules here?
Miyagi: Don’t know. First time you, first time me.
Daniel: Well, I figured you knew about this stuff. I figured you went to these before. Oh great, I’m dead. I am dead. You told me you fought a lot.
Miyagi: For life, not for points.
Miyagi was hilarious.
indeed
love that movie, and part 2, part 3…………..
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
part 2 is the bomb
but then i realize his Okinawan nemesis is one of the nerds in Real Genius and cant take him seriously
reminds me of the second movie, talking about him and Sato
Daniel:If you would have fought, would your dad have refereed?
Miyagi: No referee
Daniel: Then how do you know who wins?
Miyagi: First one dead, doesn’t.
I think that was the quote anyway.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I'm a little behind, but I just read
the LA observed article responding to plaschke’s take on Dodger and Angel Stadium…to me, what plaschke said was so stupid and short sighted, I cant believe he was being sincere when he wrote that. If plaschke really cant see and enjoy Dodger Stadium’s purity and allure, then he is truly a fool, and has lost a love and respect for the history and charm that baseball desperately needs to hang on to.
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
The purity and allure argument seems misplaced. We feel that because we are Dodger fans. I have no problem with somebody having legitimate problems with Dodger Stadium particularly if it is from an impartial point of view.
But as noted in article, Plaschke is all about being pro Moreno anti McCourt.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i think he wishes
he was on the Angels beat
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to wholeheartedly disagree
I have loads of friends from Dallas, Atlanta and Phoenix and they have all commented an the subtle simplicity and character that they felt in Dodger Stadium, and even went so far as to call it a ballpark with a historic feel
while it wont take you baseball’s golden age like fenway or wrigley might, it still boasts its own unique history and has a classic feel to it, I truthfully think that is an impartial take
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Question for the masses
What’s everyone’s opinion about the “throwback uniform day” that some teams do. I think it’s kinda neat, but I mostly laugh because the Dodgers could never really do it. Unless they wore those blue ones that looked like batting practice jerseys.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
I like it
The Dodgers could only really do a throwback to Brooklyn jerseys, which would be ok with me. They could do that for a Giants game – say, they could have done that for a Yankees game!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Haven't they done that at least once?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Yes
I distinctly remember Derek Lowe pitching in a white uniform with “Brooklyn” in script across the front — which, if memory serves, is a uniform the Dodgers have never worn.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/i/magazine/new/derek_lowe_brooklyn.jpg
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m still waiting for the White Sox to bring back those shorts they wore in the 70s.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
I like throwbacks in general, and have a fondness for just about every 1980s uniform their was. Also, that Pittsburgh/Oakland game a couple of weeks ago as an homage to the 1970s was outstanding.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought it was cool
that on tv they showed the score like it was the 70s, just plain simple yellow numbers and letters. Man those A’s jersey’s were bright though.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers could bust out the wool if they had to do a throwback game. Maybe with the piping on the front, like this:
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe next time
they’re at Citi field. Or, if they ever to go Yankee Stadium.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be great
although they’d have to wear road throwback unis there, but that would be great since they’d say “Brooklyn” on the front.
Or maybe they wouldn’t. That’s Yogi Berra wearing a home Yankee uni in this photo:
But I thought their road unis had “Brooklyn” on the front.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Thanks
I was searching (on and off) for that. Good enough though. Dodgers at Mets in 1945 throwback gear. Mets can wear Giants home unis.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Everything you ever want to know about unis is here:
http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/database.htm
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
dodgers in LA change so much its crazy
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
That’s for the current 1938-2010 design, by the way—earlier in the century they wore “Brooklyn” home and away, usually in Red Sox-like gothic letters.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
have the giants and dodgers ever done a throwback series together since the move?
that would pretty neat
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
that's the thing
unlike the Giants, the Dodger uniforms have barely changed design.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
true, but just to see them in the old B and NY caps
with high socks and puffy uniforms would pretty neat
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I suggest 1916—both teams wore plaid. The Giants’ plaid was violet.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
that would be like a train wreck
horrible, but you can’t look away.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They look like f'ing pajamas
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
pretty hot
but now we got Gatorade. G3!!!(that’s what it’s called right?)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
is that the difference?
all i know is from the commercial
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
All gatorades you have drank
Fall under the G2 category, not to be confused with G2 the diet version.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Yeh
They have 3 different levels of Gatorade in the before, during after vein, and G original and G2 is in tier 2. Confusing as all get out.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
sorry lets try that again
All full flavored gatorades you have had are G02 category, not to be confused with G2 the diet version.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Kim Ng on Sportscenter talking Steinbrenner.
by Alex41592 on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
For anyone who listens to ESPN Radio online
you have no doubt heard the recent promos during commercial breaks of Chris Rock speaking with Mike & Mike about Lady Gaga. My question is, after Rock had an unfunny “joke” about LG, is Mike Golic’s laugh the most fake laugh in history?
I submit that yes, yes it is.
They were talking about LG showing up in a box at Citi Field dressed and/or acting inappropriately
“She’s called Lady Gaga, not Lady Behave Herself.”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not the first time Chris Rock has made that "joke".
Can’t recall where, though.
i prefer Seinfeld
“this woman is a jerk”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Kobe, 2008
When Kenny from the TNT crew was run over by a car (Kobe commericial spoof), his laugh/reaction on national TV looked pretty fake.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
nice pull. That was also amazingly fake.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well that was stupid
David Khan should not be a GM.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
haha yes, and he'll probabaly use the picks to draft more players that wont end up playing for them..
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I always thought that our poster Ivdown
had a first letter that is a lower-case “ell”, but in fact, it is an upper-case “eye”. I did not know that. (Stupid font.)
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
We actually had a long conversation about this at the SBLA launch party.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
The best part about said conversation is that I am more confused today than I ever was regarding his name :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
so people thought
it was pronounced loveydown? Silly people.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
trix are for kids
you made me say it…..YOU MADE MEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
wait...
I just assumeed it was Ivy-down haha, not 4 down. Crap.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
no clue
I was just pronouncing the letters. Sigs should include pronounciation guides for weird names.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I think calling me Ivy would be like calling someone named John “Johnny”. I don’t mind it.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
You said it!
We’re all calling you “Ivy” from now on.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell is an Iv?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
4
As in Roman Numerals.
You see, I was really dumb when I was a kid and thought iv was 9, not 4. I am the 9th Down (last name) in my family, so that’s where the idea came from. If only I had paid more attention to these types of things when I was younger than people would be asking what the hell Ixdown is, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
You are an Ixian!
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Haha
Not quite, no. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a non-stripper named Ivy, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I work with an Ivy
She is not a stripper.
I tend to think of Ivy as an old-fashioned name.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ah, the things I missed
the excitement, the scintillation, the effervescence!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
and the opportunity to get a free bottle of Crown Royal Black, left by me! :(
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talked about?? Awwww, I feel so loved by every here now
hahaha
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
That is good to know
I’m the one who started the conversation and I felt kind of stupid when I was told it was an eye.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Haha, how did you just find out that it was in fact a capital “i”?
And I wouldn’t worry about it, tons of people aren’t sure what it actually is. I just don’t get why in some places the captial “i” is obvious, but in others it is just a lowercase “L”.
Weird.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Maybe because some computers’ text are serif-based and not sans-serif?
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanted to find a comment of yours here
and it wouldn’t find any when I typed it with an “ell”. Then I saw one of your comments on the same page and couldn’t understand why it wasn’t found. Finally copied your handle and pasted it into the find box, which has a different font, and revealed the upper-case “eye”, sort of like this:
Ivdown
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Yep
maybe Memento guy back too (I forgot his name)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Guy Pearce
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahh, that must have been a bit maddening trying to search it and not coming up with anything and then realizing that it was just a different letter.
If I had realized, at the time, that it would look just like a lowercase “L”, I would have just had it say:
ivdown
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I caught it because I saw you comment on fangraphs which shows the “I” much more clearly.
by Michael White on Jul 13, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, there is a danger in your handle
Someone could sign up for the user name “lvdown” with an “ell” and pretend to be you!
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I never thought about that
Maybe I should do that as a preemptive strike and just not ever use that one, haha.
Though if that person tried to start fights with people, I’m not sure people would realize the difference ;)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
You know what I didn't realize until recently
I thought Deliasman’s name was actually Deliasman, like Delias was something, not Delia’s man…I’m quite bright.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
He belongs to delia?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Exactly
which is something always to consider when reading his advice to “Ivy”.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He’s got everything she needs, he’s an artist, he don’t look back
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap….this is shocking to my brain and how I have been saying it
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 13, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
One more thing about Steinbrenner
After we had the shootings at Virginia Tech, he donated $1 million—the largest of all contributions—to the memorial fund. And sent the Yankees to Blacksburg for a game with the Hokies. I was raised to loathe the Yankees, but we’ve never forgotten what he did after our dark day. 
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Given the circumstances
Even Eric will approve that cap, methinks.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I want Dylan Hernandez's job.
Seriously.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
He gets to make shit up and get paid for it?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
isn’t that all sports guys. I mean, how many times has Olney said “Dodgers don’t have money to do nothng, everybody says so.”
I still say he adds it when he needs a few more words for his paragraphs.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Serious?
I like Dylan, I like Dylan a lot and that his not his agenda.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he meant Olney.
And yeah, Dylan is not Olney, not by a longshot.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
i did say Olney
but I like Dylan a lot too. plus he’s pocket size
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 13, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
You're not on twitter so you don't get to revel
in the gloriousness that is his twitter account, but he’s the LA Times beat reporter for the Dodgers and he manages to ask some of the more off-the-wall questions I’ve read.
Also, he is very opinionated regarding the amenities provided in different press boxes.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I sat next to (Giants beat writer) Hank Schulman earlier this year, and let him know I thought his back-and-forth on Twitter with Dylan H was hilarious (they constantly make fun of each other for eating too much, among other things). Schulman first looked at me like I had a third head (like a “people actually read that shit?” look), then just laughed and said Hernandez is crazy. :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
latsondheimer: Ex-Chatworth third baseman Matt Dominguez (Florida Marlins) is MVP of the double-A Southern League All-Star game.http://bit.ly/bn55iM
And
Kenley Jansen continued his dream season in the Southern League All-Star game as he picked up the save for the North squad in their 3 – 2 victory.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I wonder how many guys get promoted
and still make the all-star team?
Is this the last minor league game that Kenley Jansen will ever pitch?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Gee thanks, Phil
Just another reason to refresh the “Google news” tab every five minutes when searching “Kenley Jansen Promoted”
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
1 hit, 1 SO
PROMOTE HIM ALREADY, DODGERS F.O!
by Julio Nievas on Jul 13, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
James Loney one of only 44 first baseman
to have 2,000 at bats by the age of 26 since 1947. You might notice his OPS+ is above Derrick Lee and Paul Konerko at the same age. Also interesting is that his career TSL is very much in line with his current TSL.
Rk Player OPS+ PA From To Age HR RBI BA OBP SLG OPS
1 Frank Thomas 184 2844 1990 1994 22-26 142 484 .326 .449 .590 1.040
2 Albert Pujols 169 4062 2001 2006 21-26 250 758 .332 .419 .629 1.047
3 Jeff Bagwell 155 2435 1991 1994 23-26 92 382 .309 .394 .520 .914
4 Fred McGriff 154 2322 1986 1990 22-26 125 305 .278 .389 .530 .919
5 Don Mattingly 150 3078 1982 1987 21-26 123 516 .331 .376 .543 .919
6 Will Clark 148 3088 1986 1990 22-26 117 447 .302 .375 .507 .883
7 Mark McGwire 142 2571 1986 1990 22-26 156 429 .253 .356 .512 .868
8 John Mayberry 142 2764 1968 1975 19-26 119 403 .266 .384 .473 .858
9 Prince Fielder 141 3201 2005 2010 21-26 180 492 .281 .383 .544 .927
10 Orlando Cepeda 141 4434 1958 1964 20-26 222 747 .309 .353 .537 .890
11 Eddie Murray 139 3775 1977 1982 21-26 165 586 .295 .360 .502 .862
12 Todd Helton 134 2049 1997 2000 23-26 107 368 .334 .411 .601 1.012
13 John Olerud 132 3220 1989 1995 20-26 91 410 .296 .397 .471 .868
14 Alvin Davis 130 2579 1984 1987 23-26 92 366 .285 .379 .472 .851
15 Keith Hernandez 130 3342 1974 1980 20-26 63 427 .299 .383 .454 .837
16 Nate Colbert 129 2513 1966 1972 20-26 127 351 .254 .326 .481 .808
17 Boog Powell 128 3740 1961 1968 19-26 165 556 .259 .345 .454 .799
18 Rafael Palmeiro 127 2948 1986 1991 21-26 73 336 .302 .360 .462 .822
19 Mark Teixeira 126 2671 2003 2006 23-26 140 450 .282 .364 .534 .898
20 Kent Hrbek 126 3181 1981 1986 21-26 117 474 .289 .362 .480 .842
21 Adrian Gonzalez 125 2257 2004 2008 22-26 97 325 .282 .349 .494 .843
22 Carlos Delgado 123 2038 1993 1998 21-26 105 333 .265 .355 .518 .873
23 Jason Thompson 122 3206 1976 1981 21-26 130 466 .262 .359 .452 .811
24 Steve Garvey 120 2424 1969 1975 20-26 64 318 .297 .332 .447 .779
25 Sean Casey 119 2165 1997 2001 22-26 65 326 .311 .382 .490 .871
Rk Player OPS+ PA From To Age HR RBI BA OBP SLG OPS
26 Justin Morneau 118 2299 2003 2007 22-26 110 394 .276 .340 .498 .838
27 Mike Ivie 118 2253 1971 1979 18-26 63 332 .279 .334 .433 .767
28 Dan Driessen 114 2654 1973 1978 21-26 58 346 .278 .358 .415 .773
29 James Loney 113 2159 2006 2010 22-26 51 328 .297 .356 .450 .805
30 Ken Harrelson 113 2460 1963 1968 21-26 95 314 .246 .323 .421 .745
31 Paul Konerko 112 2677 1997 2002 21-26 111 410 .287 .348 .483 .831
32 Derrek Lee 111 2671 1997 2002 21-26 99 329 .262 .346 .458 .804
33 Mike Jorgensen 110 2069 1968 1975 19-26 59 235 .248 .359 .398 .757
34 Tony Horton 109 2401 1964 1970 19-25 76 297 .268 .313 .430 .743
35 Joe Adcock 107 2426 1950 1954 22-26 72 321 .283 .331 .448 .780
36 Chris Chambliss 105 2695 1971 1975 22-26 41 267 .280 .329 .396 .726
37 George Scott 104 2856 1966 1970 22-26 81 312 .259 .330 .409 .739
38 Billy Goodman 104 2750 1947 1952 21-26 9 297 .311 .394 .392 .786
39 Joe Pepitone 103 3149 1962 1967 21-26 124 415 .254 .294 .423 .717
40 Ted Kluszewski 101 2174 1947 1951 22-26 58 315 .286 .322 .437 .759
41 Jim Spencer 94 2331 1968 1973 21-26 47 231 .251 .304 .367 .671
42 Ed Kranepool 93 3684 1962 1971 17-26 76 353 .250 .305 .369 .674
43 Travis Lee 92 2179 1998 2001 23-26 60 266 .252 .342 .404 .746
44 Dan Meyer 88 2556 1974 1979 21-26 63 290 .254 .295 .389 .684
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Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Everyone's favorite "Hawk Harrelson" is his closest comp
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Mostly because much of the Loney commentary centers on “He Gone.”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Does that mean
that in a generation, Loney will be broadcasting Dodger games as a total homer?
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
"Get up, ball! Get up!...
“Yes! That is number five hundred for Russell Martin!”
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 13, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm listening to Green Lantern's mixtape for Fort Minor
and in reading about it on Wikipedia, there is a guy associated with Fort Minor with the stage name “Vin Skully”. I was both very excited and kinda scandalized.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Sounds like a Tales From The Crypt character, of a baseball announcer that is actually a skeleton.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 13, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Kruk Wisdom
On ESPN, John Kruk tells us he’s picking the AL in this game because “they just have an aura about them, a confidence…”
Uh…what the heck is he talking about?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Someone should shpunt him in the
tummy.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
His thought process
“its the all star game, I don’t even give real analysis for games that matter, let me just make some shit up here”
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I feel like some of those syllables should be reversed
to more aptly describe him…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Pants on fire
Looks like I get to drive home from work to an out of control brush fire within a mile of my house. It would have to take out our new library and a few homes before it got to us, but I imagine the ash will be bad. Good luck to those with homes right next to the blaze.
vr, Xei
Do you live in Camarillo?
My friend lives there and we are going to his house after we get off work in a little while…I hope it’s not near any homes.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I think Eric will need a new Game Thread for the all-star game
this one will not hold.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
thats what sh_______
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Dodgers best in the West when it comes to the secondary ticket price market
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/13/1568283/nl-west-mid-season-secondary
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jimmy Breslin was on sports center
I had to do a project on him for my class last semester, it was a treat to hear him talk about Steinbrenner.
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