Dodgers Open Second Half In Unfriendly Confines Of St. Louis
Normally when the Dodgers head into St. Louis, home of Baseball's Greatest Fans®, bad things happen. I want to be worried about the fact that the Dodgers haven't won a regular season series in St. Louis since 2003, and the fact that they have lost 17 of their last 21 road games to the Cardinals, again, in the regular season.
But then I think back to the 2009 National League Division Series, and my frown turns into a smile. Vicente Padilla's seven scoreless innings last October at Busch Stadium to close out a sweep over the mighty Cardinals exorcised a lot of demons.
Tonight's series opener provides the pitching matchup of the series, with Clayton Kershaw facing Chris Carpenter. Kershaw has been on fire of late. The main knock on Kershaw has always been his high walk totals, but he is taking steps, no, major leaps to correct this:
- In his first six starts, over 30 2/3 innings, Kerhsaw walked 24 batters (7.04 per nine innings)
- In his last twelve starts, over 81 2/3 innings, Kershaw walked 26 batters (2.87 per nine innings)
Over his last six starts, Kershaw has just eight walks and 48 strikeouts. He has two starts in his career in which he didn't walk a batter, and they have both come in his last three outings. Kershaw is turning a corner, folks. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
On the surface, Chris Carpenter is having another typically great year, as he is 9-3 with a 3.29 ERA. But dig a little deeper, and you will see a higher FIP (3.99) and x-FIP (3.80) than he has ever had in a full season in St. Louis. Carpenter has struggled over his last three starts, giving up 15 runs (14 earned) in 16 innings. He is averaging just under seven innings a start, and he has allowed just three runs in his last five regular season starts against the Dodgers, over 36 innings, so he's still the same old formidable Carpenter.
The Sherrill Situation
The thinking behind placing George Sherrill on outright waivers appears to be that, once he passes through unclaimed, the Dodgers will attempt to assign him to the minors to work things out. As someone with five years service time, Sherrill has the right to refuse that assignment and become a free agent. If Sherrill does become a free agent (I had this incorrect yesterday), he does not get paid the remainder of his salary. The relevant section of the Collective Bargaining Agreement is Article XIX A.(2):
(a) The contract of a Player with five or more years of Major League service, not including service while on the Military List (or seven or more years of Major League service, including service while on the Military List), shall not be assigned otherwise than to another Major League Club, without the Player’s written consent.
(c) A Player who elects to become a free agent under this paragraph (2) shall immediately be eligible to negotiate and con-tract with any Club without any restrictions or qualifications. Such Player shall not be entitled to receive termination pay. Such a free agent shall receive transportation and travel expenses in the same manner as he would if he had been unconditionally released except that he shall be limited to receiving travel expenses to his new club if he reports to it directly, provided such expenses are less than to his home city.
For reference, "termination pay" is defined in Article IX:
A Player whose Contract is terminated by a Club during the championship season under paragraph 7(b)(2) of the Uniform Player’s Con-tract for failure to exhibit sufficient skill or competitive ability shall be entitled to receive termination pay from the Club in an amount equal to the unpaid balance of the full salary stipulated in paragraph 2 of his Contract for that season.
Lineups
| Dodgers | Cardinals |
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| SS | Furcal | 3B | Lopez | |
| CF | Kemp | CF | Rasmus | |
| RF | Ethier | 1B | Pujols | |
| LF | Manny |
LF | Holliday | |
| 1B | Loney | RF | Craig |
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| 3B | Blake | C | Molina | |
| C | Martin |
2B | Miles | |
| 2B | DeWitt | P | Carpenter | |
| P | Kershaw |
SS | Ryan | |
To make room for the back-from-DL Manny Ramirez, the Dodgers have placed Reed Johnson on the disabled list with a sore back, per Tony Jackson of ESPN Los Angeles. Johnson last played on July 8, so he would be eligible to return on July 24, when the Dodgers are home to face the Mets.
Notes
- Since returning from the disabled list on May 25, Rafael Furcal is hitting .346/.386/.562 with 35 runs scored in 39 games.
- Dodger shortstops (Furcal, Jamey Carroll, and one plate appearance by Nick Green) lead MLB in hits (110), runs (66), batting average (.323), and on-base percentage (.391), and are second in walks (40), OPS (.848) and adjusted OPS (145 sOPS+)
- James Loney is hitting .447/.512/.605 in July
- In case you haven't noticed, Coolguy_88888888 has a series of in-depth position-by-position reviews of the Dodgers minor league system. Today he looks at shortstop, but he has also reviewed third base, second base, first base, and catcher so far.
- I participated in an SB Nation roundtable chat the last two nights, about the All-Star Game and the baseball season general. Last night's recap is here.
Get your guesses in for Xeifrank's game simulation here.
Game Time: 5:15 p.m.
TV: KCAL
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I noticed you didn’t capitalize the first four letters of his name this time :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I promised not to bitch about this but i will any how
I hate KCAL games, stuck with shitty gameday and “look ins” on MLB network.
damn it
i think I reaaaly need to find a slingbox (or other place shiffting device) to put at the inlaws. Ebay here I come
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Game's on MLBNetwork tonight for me here, anyway.
(I guess that’s blacked out if you’re in LA area though, yeah.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I am the opposite. I embrace the KCAL games!
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 15, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a crazy kind of game access
I have Directv , I get Fox sports west and Prime Ticket, but my locals are from Reno (I do not subscribe to them because I have “Distant Network Feed” grandfathered in and get CBS,NBC,ABC and Fox from LA and NYC). If i had cable I would not get Prime Ticket only Fox Sports West, the cable here is pretty shitty. If I do the MLB.tv package they would black out Dodgers, angels giants and As. On MLB network I am blacked out for the same teams.
Looked at ebay for a slingbox or other placeshifting and while not out of hand expensive I do not see how I can get one in time for my trip down next week, which will be the last time I am in Southern CA until probably the Playoffs and WS games i will be attending in Oct.
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Also...
Slingbox gives you control over the TV. I don’t know if someone would let you take their TV over.
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
i will be using a tv in the back bedroom at my inlaws
the only time it will be a problem is when my wife is there and i am not, and i am sure I can work that out ;-)
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Lucky for you!
So MLB.tv blacks games out up there?
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
please do not get me started on the crazy MLB blackout rules, they really need to get into the 21st century on this issue
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve pointed this out before, but: be thankful you don’t live in Iowa.
Iowa, a state that has no MLB team, has six teams blacked out.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats Nucking Futs!
I remember living in SD and DirecTV wouldn’t show LA/SF sometimes!!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the whole thing is fucking nuts
and i was wrong in my prior post, for some unkown but fucking stupid reason I can watch the As, whose stadium is closer to my house then the Dodgers giants or angels
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm..weird
A. Martinez just tweeted, “What advice would you give your 18 year old self.” I replied, “Attend Community College in Mammoth!!”
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo! game preview
While a start against the Los Angeles Dodgers might be enough to help get Carpenter back on track
What the hell is that supposed to mean? Watch a playoff game one time! We beat him in October, we beat him this season, we’ll beat him again! (Say that in the Iron Man I voice of ’That’s how Dad did it, that’s how America does it, and it’s worked out pretty well so far.’)
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Wow
I think the cards bullpen has been even more frightful for their fans than ours has been. I worry everytime we face the cards but then remember that they are far from perfect this year and far from dominant lately
Dodgers<——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————→The Bad News Bears
lotta space in between there
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I live for KCAL games
no annoying pregame and postgame show. Well no on the field version anyhow. I can just not tune into the studio show, which is gadawful.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
I disagree 100%
The game production is much, much better on Prime Ticket, and the very existence of a post-game show on Prime Ticket gives it a leg up over KCAL.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Why
so we can know the deep thoughts of Broxton on throwing the ball?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess the point is if you don’t watch either pre- or post-game show, why would it matter to you?
Which would swing the battle to in-game only, which Prime Ticket dominates
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
in locker room with Joe
is the highlight of the post game show on Prime
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of that...
Remember the day when they actually used to have a pregame on the radio? Those were the days!!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
There is currently a 30 minute pre-game show on radio every game, at least on the flagship station (KABC 790)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya, but it used to be better and longer.
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
In his last twelve starts, over 81 2/3 innings, Kershaw walked 26 batters (2.87 per nine innings)
I didn’t realize that his BB/9 rate has been down for that amount of innings. I knew he was improving but I thought maybe it had been over just the past 30 innings or so. Great news for him!
no more curve?
How much does this have to do with Kershaw basically giving up on his curve as his second pitch and sticking with the slider?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Err Dylan H speculates
that Reed Johnson may be on the DL. Not on the reserve sheet. My God what does GA have to do to get fired?
Reed was day to day a while ago, so it could be because his back problem became legit.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Hurt Reed Johnson > Healthy GA
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Not disagreeing with you
but I think we won’t see the back of GA until November.
Watch, he’ll be resigned.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Tony Jackson suggested today...
that Ned will cut him loose as soon as Torre can let go of him.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 15, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
“I get the sense they’re not going to wait much longer, unless Garret suddenly gets hot. I do think Torre and the coaching staff likes having him around for what he brings to the clubhouse. He lockers next to Matt Kemp at home, and I think they think he has been a good influence. So it may come down to how long the front office is willing to go along with the wishes of the staff.”
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 15, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Does he bring cookies or something?
What is he bringing? Doughnuts? and I’d like to point out, no GA, Kemp on fire last year. With GA, Kemp poorer…….coincidence? Just saying. :)
He influences Matt on how to strike out more often.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
“Matt, don’t hold up, go for that low on in the dirt.”
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 15, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
"watch as many strikes as you can. Really gets in the pitcher's head."
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
also,
flinch at the first pitch, like you thought it was gonna hit you. what? yeah, even if it’s right down the middle.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Cant we just make him
an honorary coach or something? and hide him away? GA you have earned a vacation buddy. Go play some golf. Spend time with your kids. Enjoy your life.
Assistant to the GM
is that the position it seemed all our crappy vet bench players get after they are released?
Wasn’t GA seen as a malcontent up until stat guys started pointing out he kinda sucked?
by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Jason Grabowski: .196/.270/.337 for 315 PA over two seasons. The Dodgers love them some shitty outfielder.
by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So this is good news about Sherrill.
If he refuses the assignment to the minors then he becomes a FA with no more pay from us. Sweet!
As it was mentioned yesterday, though, it would seem pretty stupid of him to choose FA over working things out in the minors under the contract that he already has with us. If any team does decide to sign him after he refuses his assignment to the minors it is almost guaranteed to be for less than what he would be getting with us, and that team would most likely start him in the minors, too.
So he can either go to the minors, work on his stuff and still get paid way more than he’s worth. Or he can become a FA, get signed by another team for a lot less, and do the same thing he would be doing with us. Seems like a no brainer.
Yeah I got really confused by that
Different sources saying we have to pay him no matter what. Then others saying we don’t. So confused and conflicted. But looks like we are off the hook then? Why didnt this happen sooner?
I'd rather him take the assignment, pay him, and hope he gets right.
It can’t help him just throwing to one batter every week.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Same here
If he can correct those problems and be lights out again, whatta boon that will be down the stretch
If he refuses the assignment to the minors then he becomes a FA with no more pay from us. Sweet!
If he refuses the assignment, that doesn’t mean he will choose to become a FA. He could tell the Dodgers that he wants to stay. At that point, either he stays or the Dodgers release him (and pay his salary).
I see.
That would be a real jerk move of his if he refuses the assignment and doesn’t want to become a FA either.
I'm shocked
that he has that option.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Everyone with 5 years of service time does.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
That's the power of a good union
never doubt a good union
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
tell me about it
I used to work for UPS. Teamsters man…Teamsters.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I know traditionally LA is an anti-union town
but I can’t wait to join the WGA. That’s when I know I’ve really made it.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So out of curiosity
What are the professions of people who frequent this site? Someone asked me what sorta folks comment on here and I found that interesting. I have no answer for them other than smart folk
Academic between degrees
aspiring television writer
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah it's cool
my career choice is…pretty boring. When I create the American equivalent of Doctor Who, no one is getting guest roles!
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
good luck Josie!!!
my career goal is similar
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Just like them both and want to see both of them come back. “Freaks and Geeks” is now IFC. But I thought that “Studio 60” was very good once they started to focus more on the characters then on the making of the skits.
If suffered from the same problem as the real SNL
a female lead who is not funny. Other then that Iiked it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I so wanted to like that show, but too many of the skits in the comedy show within the show were unfunny.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it just didn’t work. The characters were so sure they were so good … it was impossible not to take the side of the people who wanted the show-within-the-show canceled.
Now if you want to bring back SportsNight, that’s another matter.
Brilliant show
great cast, great writer.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sport Night was a brilliant show
But Studio 60 should have been a behind the scenes of a Drama, which woulda killed a lot of the plots (no West Coast delay episode) but would have made more sense for the tone being set.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I seem to recall the first season of Sports Night being brilliant… and the second season being disappointing.
I remember thinking, well, if this is the show now, and he’s gonna do West Wing, then this is a mercy killing.
My #1 Show That Really Wasn’t All That Good Anymore By The Time It Was Cancelled But I Was Still Bummed to See It Cancelled Anyway…
….Veronica Mars.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Curious minds want to know
It’s streaming on Netflix.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
1st season is,
but leave it after that
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Watch the first season. It’s really incredible TV.
The other two seasons are…. well, they never get BAD. They just never scale the heights of that first season.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
with a side of Dead Like Me
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
See, I never got into Dead Like Me. Every episode seemed to be exactly the same.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
How bout Wonderfalls, or Pushing Daisies?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think all the F&G cast and crew are pretty busy these days
anyway. Even Busy… Phillipps!
But it sure was one perfect season.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Love Doctor Who
just saw my first episode two years ago. That is an excellent career goal.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Wibbly wobbly
timey wimey.
Seriously, this season has been really, really good. Anyone see the Vincent Van Gogh episode? Written by Richard Curtis.
I think, kind of seriously, that Doctor Who should forget about any season-long arc. Get 13 great TV writers to write 13 standalone episodes. Anything they want to do, they can do. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the TARDIS.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Doctor Who
has been written very similarly to Buffy, and I think it works great for it. Big Bad always in the background, but keep going on about the day to day stuff. So it’s not strictly a loyalty program (or serialized fiction) but not a completely one off (or episodic) procedural.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah....
…and I guess I’m saying, that worked for Buffy, sort of, until it didn’t, and the Big Bads became increasingly distracting. The Big Bads in Doctor Who have also, IMO, been middling.
In my opinion, if you’ve got a good Big Bad — like Veronica Mars certainly did in Season One — then go for it. If you don’t… there’s nothing wrong with being episodic.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, at least in Sci-Fi
a world without a big bad feels lopsided. If you’re a cop shop, every now and a again you have to bust up a drug ring, cause the bad guys are organized too, and have a leader.
If the Doctor can go around the universe and time saving the day, someone or something else needs to be that powerful but trying to mess it up. Sometimes they don’t pay off. And sometimes crime bosses are actually kinda lame.
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
about the job being known
not the ninja thing
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Aspiring academic
Mastering Lab Technician until July 30th.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Religion. I’d like to be a teacher.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
awesome
i remember my high school English teacher trying to get her masters so she could teach at college level. We asked her why she wanted to teach there and her answer was,
“Besides the money? I can curse all I want during my lectures”
she was so cool
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been wanting to do a Fanpost like that with a poll.
But I wondered how many people’s high up positions wouldn’t allow them to respond. :)
you get paid for that? High five man!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprisingly, so do I
apparently I am related to several rocket scientists.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Reg *is* aerospace.
Like, seriously. He’s a jet.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Need wire?
That is what I’m supposed to be doing right now, selling wire!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Ditto!
Surprisingly, didn’t think any of us would be here. Don’t ask me why.
by Capt Obvious on Jul 15, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hollywood publicist.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
!!!
That’s really cool. You must be really good at your job.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I hope so. I like to think so. But everybody thinks they’re good at their job. Nobody’s complaining at the moment, so that’s good.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
flagged!
you’re responsible for making me like baseball more than in a passing, casual fashion. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
and
you wrote a really cool book that helped me learn about the Dodgers from before I was born.
And the section about Gibby’s homer was awesome.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Gibby's section was my favorite
didn’t think it could be told again but what an angle.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
fake it til you make it!
hehe, just kidding!!
I wish I can write. God only gave me math skills!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This is great
Thanks for your responses. I find it really interesting to know what disciplines everyone is coming from.
Yo
u should be traveling in Europe before you watch your life slip away.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm a traveling salesman who travels only once a month...
for less than a week.
I want my business to take off so bartenders and bar patrons never have to ask, “What Channel is the Game on?”
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You should write a fan post about your proposed business
and get feedback from these drunks.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I was thinking about doing so once the site was actually working...
Then I can give everyone free access in here!! I’ll call it the Dodgers fan special!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
"Good Union"
That is an oxymoron!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I get why he has it, the CBA and MLBPA provide that to him. I’m shocked that the owners would concede to a player bad enough to get released the right to choose his employment?
Can you imagine an employer telling you you’re fired and you telling them no and it not only works but it is your RIGHT to say no? Unreal.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
The Dodgers can fire him if they want to. They just have to pay him.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's how some of you seem to view the situation
You: [wakes up] OH MY GOD, THE SUN IS OUT AGAIN. BUT WHY? IT’S SO HOT AND UNCOMFORTABLE
Reality: The sun comes up everyday
You: I know, but I don’t like it. Why does it need to come up each day? It’s so hot!!!! The sun is stupid
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Every fucking day.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Is this in regards to the heat
like, the literal dislike of the sun, or is this working on a metaphorical level as well?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I like to let each reader pick his or her own interpretation
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
for years
Man has yearned to destroy the sun
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 15, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Including former Dodger Thoughts commenter Icaros!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
YOUR DAY STAR BURNS
GIVE ME FROZEN TREATS!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
“It is the East, and Juliet is the sun! Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon.”
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 15, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
THATS IT!
once again my small pea brain was strained trying to figure out where that was from. I kept thinking Kang or Kodos for some reason.
That was either impressive or frightening. Not sure which yet.
by regfairfield on Jul 15, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jon tweeted that Reed went to the DL
to make room for Manny.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
she has animal-like reflexes
a certain animal….can’t think of the name right now.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell is a puma?
didn’t I tell you to stop making up animals?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
you are the second person
i have impressed with me RvB knowledge
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I loved that show
Also i am used to slinging out pop culture references and getting blank stares back. So its nice to get a response
Hey Simmons! What's the name of the Mexican lizard? Eats all the goats?
A Chupacabra, sir.
Hey Grif! Chupythingy, how about that? I like it. It’s got a ring to it.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Grif, who the hell gives CPR for a bullet wound to the head?
I mean, what you do if I hurt my foot? Rub my neck with Aloe Vera?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
“He tore his skull out and beat him to death with it”
“that doesnt seem physically possible”
“I KNOW! thats just what he kept saying”
"this doesn't seem physically possible!!!"
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
here's another one then
Simmons:Shotgun
Grif:Shotgun….fuck.
Dougnut: Shotgun’s Lap!!!
Simmons: Fuck….
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
What, like a spider?
Get it off!
All time favorite.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Young black men -- if you go to a movie theater
and someone steps on your foot, let it slide
Why spend the next twenty years in jail
cause someone smudged your Puma?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Link here
[DodgerThoughts]At least XP sticks around a bit longer. This gives the Dodgers a few more days to find a place in the front office for Anderson.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Does Bill Mueller still work for us?
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
As much as GA still hits for us, yeah.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think this year has been Phil’s sourest.
Manny’s on pace to deliver 400 PA of .900 OPS at age 38. Considering the alternatives, I think that’s a glass half-full situation.
by JonWeisman on Jul 15, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny is doing exactly what I expected of him at age 38 in 2011, and I’m not impressed given the cost of $20 Million even if he’s only getting a pittance of that this year. He’s simply an old DH trying to play LF in the real league. He was on fire to get to the .900 OPS, and once July ends he’ll be back around .850 gingerly running the bases and mockingly attempt to play LF. Then he’ll heat up again and we will hope he can stay healthy enough to play the rest of the season with out another visit to the DL. I really dislike watching Manny play left field like a special ed case who gets cheered when he makes a play the normal left fielders make in their sleep. His hitting does off set that but then he runs on marbles because he’s so fragile, so unless he’s hitting a home run, he pretty much irritates me. This isn’t hind-site the very first TBLA face off was a debate between Eric and I on the merits of signing Manny.
You may be right about being sour. The McCourts have put a blight on this season and possibly for seasons to come. I already have to root for a team with the worst owner in sports, it sours me to think that my two favorite teams have the two biggest jokes in the ownership world. Santana makes me sadder then I thought possible. Martin befuddles me with his offensive putridness. Kemp drives me crazy with his inability to use his skills to become the man we thought he could. I’m tired of defending Billingsley’s emotional makeup because he doesn’t shut them up with performance. He’s good, I need him to be great because I hate being wrong. And this is the time of year when Ned trades the guys I’ve been following/writing about for years, so between July 15th – July 31st, I’m pretty much ready to be pissed mode because other then the Manny deal (funny right) he never trades the prospects for top flight talent but for moxy veteran-ness.
To top off the sourball Vin Scully is getting bloody old, and when he goes I think my Dodger spirit will go with him.
I’m sure by Aug 1st I’ll feel better.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 15, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
we’ll still have Tommy Lasorda
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
First 10 games back for Manny
after suspension in 2009: .364/.447/.697, 3 HR, 9 RBI
after 1st DL trip in 2010: .267/.436/.333, 0 HR, 7 RBI
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
One was not physical
one was. Resting 50 games is a pretty good gig for a 37 year old. Trying to recover from leg injuries is not.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I guess not. What can I say – I’ll leave it alone. You’re going out of your way to be negative, and it’s not my place to try to suggest that maybe it won’t be so grim.
Sure it is, if not you, who?
Sometimes I don’t realize exactly how sour I sound. Most of these young un’s are to busy talking about cultural references to talk baseball. Plus they know I haven’t reached the mandated ban quote that Eric has initiated on the TBLA moderator crew.
It was good to get it out, now I feel better headed into the game. May Manny be Magnificent.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
well, I don't know about the other young'uns
but this one just doesn’t like to get involved with guys who obviously know way more about the game. I mean, after your rant up there, I don’t think a comment like,
“Hey….maybe this time will be different!”
would really help, am I right?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure
This is an open exchange of ideas. Phil’s not saying anything different than what he has said before.
Most of these young un’s are to busy talking about cultural references to talk baseball.
I realize I’ve contributed a lot to this, and for that, I apologize. I like learning and reading about the more technical aspects of baseball, and I try not to chime in about something I don’t know much about.
I would, though, also like to point out that sometimes your surliness is such that it doesn’t seem like it would be possible to have a conversation about whatever it is you are pontificating on. So, you could be really down on Manny but I don’t have the balls, so to speak, to go toe-to-toe with you about it because I really am not as passionate about my opinion regarding Manny as you are about yours.
Not in a bad way, I enjoy reading your opinions (I did hide behind the metaphorical corner when you were going at that guy regarding Santana, though…).
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
You are correct in many ways
but just for clarification, I enjoy the fact a group of you have chosen TBLA to chat. I consider you the cool table in the bar that for the most part I’m either to old to participate in, or simply have no clue what you are talking about but still like to eavesdrop.
And yes, Jon admonishing my surliness has more sway with me, then if you were to tell me so.
As I’ve said before my wife is surprised I’m alive, she expected me to break my neck by falling off my soapbox long ago. It is a good thing certain subjects are taboo here, or I would have alienated every single person by now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Oh, Please
I consider you the cool table in the bar
We’re fucking Table 9 in here.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
I dunno what Table 9 means
but personally I think I’m behind the bar mixing drinks in this proverbial restaurant, half listening then chime in with a quip
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The Wedding Singer
the mutants at table 9
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
Tommy got it.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
If I'm gonna be a mutant
I wanna be Kitty Pryde
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I always liked Rogue
but she was SO EMO IN THE MOVIES ZOMG
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Joss Whedon Kitty definitely
Joss loves to write characters I could play without trying; Willow, Kaylee, Kitty Pryde, Mellie
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd be Gambit
just for the eyes. Still can’t believe he never made it to the movies.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
me either but still intend to
looks to be cool. Liev Schrieber (spelling?) looked good as sabertooth
Better then I thought it would be
Best X Men Babe based on the movies?
No matter what the weather, Storm was the right temperature.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He's in the Wolverine movie
and they got Riggins from FNL to play him.
Excuse me while I go take a cold shower.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Sure
I didn’t say YOU were at the cool table. It is obvious you are Table 9
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I am exceedingly difficult to alienate
though I do get annoyed very easily if people can’t admit when they are wrong or being a jagoff (you seem to have both qualities, so you’re chill with me). :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I really didn't mean to admonish
Truly. I mean, I’m kind of a hypocrite.
I promise you, if you could spend any time inside my head, especially this week, you would really see surly.
I would hope so,
the difference is that I have an easier outlet for releasing it while you really can’t. Of course I do risk the fact that Eric is tweeting right now “Phil is a f…. jerk, I’m going to ban his ass when he least expects it”.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Don’t worry, those are direct messages only :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what cures surliness
Road trip to watch the Dodgers in gray, being decked out in Dodger gear, sitting in the cheap seats, getting razzed by the home fans and knowing your team is better than them.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
When do we get to watch the Dodgers play the Royals at Kaufman?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
yeah
when do we get to play the scrubs of the AL in interleague?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Two Words to Calm Phil Gurnee
Donald. Sterling.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Hey Eric-san
do you know if the powers that be received my paperwork?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
I will check; shoot me an email letting me know where you sent it
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
From Rotoworld's Waiver Wired
The Dodgers haven’t made an official announcement yet, but McDonald is considered the most likely candidate to take John Ely’s place in the starting rotation against the Giants on Monday night. The 25-year-old right-hander failed to make the team during spring training and missed a chance at a promotion last month due to a hamstring injury, but he was 5-5 with a 4.00 ERA in 45 games (four starts) with the Dodgers in 2009. McDonald is 6-1 with a 4.41 ERA over 12 starts with Triple-A Albuquerque this season and has thrived in recent outing by adding a slider to his arsenal. He’s always been known to miss bats, averaging 7.7 K/9 last season and 9.7 K/9 in the minor leagues, so there’s no reason why he shouldn’t be safely tucked away in NL-only formats.
ooooh boy that sounds good
Im glad JMac has gotten his groove back. Coming back as a starter is he going to sling his change up more? I recall people saying he stopped using it last year as he was coming in relief
oooh a shiny new slider?
soo cooooool. But I still wanna see his change-up.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sherrill interview
“That’s kind of a tough one. It just depends,” said the left-hander. "If you could tell me it would be 10 days, but you never know. I could be out of sight, out of mind, and be stuck there. I could figure out [what’s wrong] and still be stuck there. I have to make sure every ‘T’ is crossed.
I got the reverse reaction
he just wants to make sure he has an out clause so he can opt out if he thinks he’s solved something and he’s still not called up. Makes sense. I’m betting he’s an Isotope.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He’s just angling for a clause to get called up by a certain date (probably sometime in August). He just doesn’t want to get Ohman’d.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
“This summer, I’m going to take my talents to New Mexico.”
by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
His quotes there
(or here) make him seem like a pretty good guy about the whole thing, or at least a human reaction. It’s hard to imagine him wanting to become a FA and forfeiting the millions, though I’m sure he’d rather stay up in the ML all along. But knows he has things to work out.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
He seems like a good dude
Im really glad this happened tho. He clearly was not getting it done and it looks like the Dodgers don’t want to give up on him. But recognize that he needs to fix something and will give him the chance to fix it. Just go get your work in George and get back into form. We really could use you.
My buddy works at the hotel where some of the players stay. He said Sherrill and his brother (who apparently stays there too) are really good guys
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 15, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Old Friend
Wesley Wright is starting against ABQ tonight
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
saw him at IE last weekend
caught 6 innings, went 3 for 3 but still could not throw anyone out on the bases
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry ...
McDonald does not have enough service time to refuse his major-league assignment.
by JonWeisman on Jul 15, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
That’s a rec.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
So he's not over 4.127 served?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Why use Cot's?
when you have True Blue LA?
1 year, 4 days
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping that hyperlink was to you. Like, a big picture of you.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
That
or you flipping them off. Can’t decide.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Dodgers
facing the Cardinals/Giants so Carpenter, Wainwright, Garcia, Lincecum, right of out of the chute. Look like we may miss Cain if rotowire is right and get to face Bumgarner/Zito. On the plus the opponents are facing Kershaw, Chad, Kuroda, Kershaw, Chad with Padilla and McDonald filling it out.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Phil, were you the guy on the electric scooter at the DT gathering a while back?
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 15, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The one who helped your wiffile ball team to victory
with my Scooter speed.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
feel sorry
for the Cardinals and Giants
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Off topic but Shannon Brown
is close to re signing with the Lakers
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=AhAvUz7zYR6BhpU8WJG.pG8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz071410
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
yay
Raja Bell didn’t want a ring I guess.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 15, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Surprising
I didn’t think they could afford him. So basically the same team except Blake instead of Farmer. Seems like they will have a lot of trouble with the fast guards.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
They couldn't but...
no one else is knocking on Shannon’s door. Now he will take less.
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
No
I emailed him several times with no reply. I thought that Andrew had taken him deep into cover, but then Andrew showed up with no bluebleeder so maybe we should be worried.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I found his phone number and just sent him a text. I will let you know if I hear back.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha!
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7150181
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
OK, I love Dodgers Wired
I love anytime they get baseball players talking to each other.
The Gamer seems really shy.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
And Casey Blake
looks EXACTLY like his dad!
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7143371
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Yeah!
It’s really cute. They had a thing on the MLB Network for a while about chatty players…I guess Orlando Hudson was QUITE verbose.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
For Madz
JA Adande wrote this column last weekend and to me the strange part was this reference.
It reminds me of the bad guy when Padme has the audacity to elude the giant creature sent to devour her for an arena filled with bloodthirsty spectators in “Attack of the Clones:” “She can’t do that! Shoot her … or something.” Sorry, but these are the rules, as constituted.
I mean who uses that film as an example of anything except how much filler they needed to make three movies.
An Ex-LA Times sportswriter?
I mean he wrote for the Times Sports department in the 21st century.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
That's a strange thing to be reminded of.
Unless he really hated whatever he was referring to…
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
MLB Trade Rumors tweet
Dontrelle Willis Signed To Minor-League Deal By Giants http://bit.ly/913jEl
Wow.
That cat has 9 lives!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 15, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Gameday says Trayvon Robinson hit a leadoff homer about 30 feet beyond the 400 foot center field fence tonight.
He'll enjoy watching
Strasburg/Zimmerman from CF
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
He's in the video I linked above!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Wakefield starting game one after the break for the Red Sox
Kershaw starting game one after the break for the Dodgers.
I guess $168,000,000 doesn’t buy what it used to.
Rangers lead 6 – 0 after one.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

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