Dodgers Settle For Regular Result In St. Louis
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 7:55 PM PDT
in Dodgers Game Recaps
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PrintThe Dodgers opened their "second half" with a lackluster game, more reminiscent of the previous six regular seasons in St. Louis, as the Cardinals drubbed the Dodgers 7-1 in the first game of a four-game set. Coming into the game, the Dodgers had won six straight games against the Cardinals, including last year's playoffs, but have now lost 18 of their last 22 games in St. Louis.
Clayton Kershaw walked the first two batters of the game, and it was downhill from there. He was unable to last through the fifth inning, allowing five runs (four earned) on eight hits and three walks in 4 1/3 innings. He also had a career-low one strikeout, the first time in 70 career starts he hasn't struck out at least two batters.
Chris Carpenter was a bit more efficient than Kershaw, allowing just one run in his eight innings of work, throwing 101 pitches. In his last six regular season starts against the Dodgers, Carpenter has allowed just four runs in 44 innings, for a paltry 0.82 ERA.
Notes
- Andre Ethier had half of the Dodgers four hits, and accounted for the only run with a solo home run in the fourth inning.
- On a more positive note, George Sherrill started the eighth inning, and retired the first two batters before allowing a single to Randy Winn.
- Brad Ausmus caught five innings in Albuquerque in the first of what will be a four-game rehabilitation assignment, and went hitless in two at-bats.
- Chad Billingsley and Jaime Garcia will face off tomorrow night.
WP - Chris Carpenter (10-3): 8 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 6 strikeouts
LP - Clayton Kershaw (9-5): 4 1/3 IP, 8 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 3 walks, 1 strikeout
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It's not even 8
At least it was quick.
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That's true
I’m watching some documentary on Christian Hosoi.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
could Christian
beat Tony Hawk at Tony Hawk pro skater?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha
I have no idea
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I had no clue that Tony Hawk was big in the mid 1980s
because his brand didn’t really blow up until the late 90s, I feel like.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I think he was big in the skater world
then he came the Tiger Woods of skateboarding
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, I feel like everyone in middle school had a “skater” phase. Wearing es shoes or something…
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I remember the extreme walking phase
I had the hots for a guy who wore Soaps, carried sex wax in his pocket to wax curbs
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I have
no idea what that means. I am old.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume Soaps are necklaces made out of DVDs with pics of Richard Mulligan and Katherine Helmond
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
For the fogies
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I went through a huge adidas phase from like 12 to 14
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Look at that guy
he’s Captain 90s! From the Soaps, to the zip-off cargo conversion pants/shorts, to the Against All Authority sweater, to the backwards cap. Museum worth specimen
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man
The zip off cargos. You had to have those.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
HAHAHAHA
Yes! Gotta love those jeans, man.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Oh man that's right!
For all my ravers in the house
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a game to play
My high school self was classified as a ___________.
para me: Post-punker, straight outta Hot Topic
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
did you start?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
but you wore the leather jacket
around school
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
No. I don’t think people do that anymore. They didn’t at my school.
by Michael White on Jul 15, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you've gotta have some tribe signifier
Me, I had the rubber bracelets covering my right arm. When Oprah (wrongly) claimed them to be sex bracelets, I got in sooooooooooo much trouble
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda wish I had some sort of identity like that
in truth I think I was too busy to really assert myself like that. I think my clothing style was more stuff I could wear from school to soccer practice or dance class without having to change.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Eh
but then you get locked into expectations. Better just to dress like a normal person
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Psh
I would have loved to have “style”. I don’t think I do, even now. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
This reminded me of Spongebob
Style!
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Gosh.
My high school self was classified as a tomboy who DGAFed so hard I wore pajama pants to school, regularly.
People used to joke I was homeless.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I was
the quiet guy, who often times made the entire class laugh.
After Columbine, one of my classmates said that everyone thought I was the most likely to do something like that.
When I asked how in God’s name they could think that, the answer was,
“Well, you don’t talk a lot.”
My response,
“I don’t have anything to say.”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Nerd who got good grades and knew a lot about sports
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I also hung out with the burnouts and dated the art chick.
I liked to hedge my bets.
by Michael White on Jul 15, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Party Animal/Stoner/Sports Fan
I started actually doing school work my senior year.
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 16, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Death at a Funeral is on the MGM channel
at 9:15. I plan on watching that. Hilarious comedy.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The UK version, not the Chris Rock remake
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
MGM channel
dam thats gotta be a package or something
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 15, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
it's part of Dish network's summer movie channel free preview
but yeah, it’s part of a Starz package
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw The Damned United
yesterday. Pretty good. Also, it’s about English Football!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
it sounds like a UK take
on The Damn Yankees
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Just added it to my netflix instant queue.
by Michael White on Jul 15, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just might watch The Damned United tonight. Or The Lives of Others. That’s the disc I have…
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
20 mins in to Damned United
it’s very good.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 15, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the few good soccer movies!
Michael Sheen and Tim Spall are both excellent.
It’s based on a great book (though for the book you have to reeeallly be a soccer fan, more than the movie, imho.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I feel like Billz is gonna rip it up tomorrow
Just a feeling. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Does that sound dirty
to anyone else?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Just watched the ESPY's
and that Carell and Rudd decision bit was hillarious
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 15, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions
Well
I effectively jinxed Kershaw. Way to go stupid (me).
The last time I campaigned so hard for people to realize someone is great is when Billingsley was making the league his bitch in early June of 2009…never again, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Dylan Tweet
Sherrill: “Hopefully, this is step one in staying here.”
didnt sherrill express his hope to stay with the Dodgers beyond 2010?
He might have, but I just don’t see that happening. Sherrill is almost guaranteed to be non-tendered this offseason. If he returns, it would be at a drastically discounted rate.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to pitch for the Dodgers in 2011 too.
by Michael White on Jul 15, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe Jeff Mathis just took a foul tip off his junk in the Angels game. He didn’t even bowl over in pain, which makes him 1000 times more manly than me.
This documentary
is kind of depressing.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Some documentary on Christian Hosoi.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I grew up in Venice, CA, never skated, and learned from the excellent documentary Lords of Dogtown that modern skateboarding basically began during a drought in SoCal in which people drained their swimming pools and opportunistic skaters literally jumped in.
Have you ever seen the movie Dogtown and Z-Boys?
I’ve never seen Lords of Dogtown but they sound similar, so if you liked that one you’ll like Z-Boys, too.
Need to ask the question
Who is an enemy of Ed Begley, Jr.?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 9:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder what
British people think of Alan Tudyk’s British accent.
As an American, I find Hugh Laurie’s American accent passable and Jamie Bamber’s fantastic
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Watching Knight & Day
Literally 6 people total in the theater.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 15, 2010 9:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I like it when it's that empty
cause you can talk and not feel rude.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 15, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I can do that anyway cause I'm awesome ;)
Jk, but I do really like it when there’s like 5 other people in the theater.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
having worked in a theater
I remember there was a showing of a movie that had zero people in it. I believe it was a thursday afternoon. The movie….Bubble Boy.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
James Baldwin really struggling
Has a platinum sombrero tonight. So far in 50 Ab’s hes struck out 22 times to 1 walk
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 15, 2010 9:31 PM PDT reply actions
preston ljust pinch ran at the ie game i went to last weekend
but Van Slyke loooked horrible, striking out, on three big swings and misses
by MammothDodger on Jul 15, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So is George Sherrill going to be on the roster for the rest of the season?
I take it he was placed on waiver, no one took him, and thus its as it never happened. He’s still on the roster.
Same thing the Red Sox did to Manny a few years ago.
Is that jist?
The waiver expires tomorrow. We’ll see what happens.
by silverwidow on Jul 15, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So apparently
Holliday catches the ball fine anywhere but LA…
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves
I was in Mannywood...
during the Red Birds series and people were riding Holliday the whole time. It was pretty funny. Some guy kept yelling the date of that game over and over and over!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
by Ego Crusher! on Jul 16, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, I can't belive I missed the soap and Jnco part of this thread.
Ha Ha, such good and bad times there. Anyway, I just wanted to see if anyone had heard any Volbeat. Very very sweat band out of the DK. Check them out on YouTube or whatever.
NL West Champs?
I simulated the remaining schedule 50K times to find out the probability of each team winning the divisional title.
Team / Today’s Odds of winning NL West / Yesterday’s Odds of winning NL West
1. Dodgers / 39.18% / 43.33%
2. Padres / 29.36% / 28.48%
3. Rockies / 16.75% / 15.84%
4. Giants / 14.71% / 12.35%
One game played by just two of the teams makes such a big difference?
One game out of the 88 played so far can make a difference of 4%??
How many wins
did the sim give us as the general total?
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
Wow
It says we’ll win the division with each team below finishing no worse than 3 games out. It’s going to be a crazy finish, I just hope we catch a break.
"I am dead set against free agency. It can ruin baseball." - George Steinbrenner.
No, those are the average number of wins and losses with each season being simulated 50K times. Every one of those runs has different results, but those are the average numbers. Don’t read into it that it is predicting the four teams to finish that closely. Think of each teams average seasonal win total as the peak of their bell curve.
OK i'm moved at the moment.
I feel the need to harp on this, because I can’t join in on stuff during the day, thanks to my current computer/job situation. Although I do read 90% of every thread. I think based on many of your band preferences, I think many would enjoy Volbeat, my current favorit band. I implore many of you to check them out. Think….Metallica meets Social Distortion meets Elvis Presley meets Johnny Cash….in a very good way. Ok i’ll let it go for now.
From Buster Olney this morning...
There is speculation within the sport that if the McCourts are forced to sell the Dodgers as they go through their divorce proceedings, the person who is most perfectly positioned to buy the team is Dennis Gilbert, the longtime agent and team executive. Gilbert lives in the L.A. area, is a known quantity to commissioner Bud Selig, and Gilbert essentially finished second in the bidding for the Texas Rangers last year — largely because Nolan Ryan chose to align himself with Chuck Greenberg. Gilbert knows a whole lot of people, big hitters in the money world, and if the Dodgers’ franchise needs rescuing — and in the sport right now, the team’s ownership troubles are regarded as a cover-your-eyes embarrassment — Gilbert will have the financial wherewithal to restore the club to its past greatness.
i've heard of him before
will he be approved though, is the thing.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Easily
“In 2000, the Chicago White Sox recruited him to serve as Special Assistant to Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf. In addition to reviewing contracts and negotiations, Dennis provided key input on personnel and scouting-related matters….He also sits on Major League Baseball’s Salary Arbitration and Player Development committees.”
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
A former agent has enough money to buy the Dodgers, and “rescue” the 2 time defending NL West Champs?
I guess Olney is saing that Gilbert can get investors but I still think Frank can do that too. For all Frank’s faults, the guy has demonstrated that he knows how to raise money.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Im still convinced the judges comment about selling the team was intended to:
a. light a fire under settlement talks
b. get the mccourts to stfu about how expensive everything is to litigate against each other
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 16, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
I finally read over Jon’s interview with the lady who wrote the huge article on the McCourt divorce. Like she said, I just don’t see Frank stupid enough to allow the proceedings to get to a point where he is forced to sell the Dodgers. They are just a few short years away from cashing in on their own TV network, not only would Frank suffer if he had to sell the team but Jamie would be missing out, too if she does not go for a settlement.
Gilbert was the perferred choicefrom MLB in the Rangers bid, but Hicks went with the bid by Greenberg and Nolan Ryan.
And its not as if McCourt can’t raise money, the problem is that he can’t raise money and keep total control of the team. Any significant partner Frank McCourt brings in will want to run the team.
With Gilbert, the assumption that he can bring in a group that will allow Gilbert be the front man and decision maker.
Frank wouldn’t bring in one partner and give him managing control. He would bring in 3 partners who would each hold less than 50%.
Yes, Frank would certainly lose having absolute control on the team.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
so yesterday as awesome
saw thrice in concert ( hadn’t seen them since i was 19, so 5 years ago) and then saw inception at midnight. ahhhh im so tired!
I say Knight & Day, which got out about 11:30, and I was this close to staying for the midnight showing of Inception, before I decided to sleep.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
was Knight and Day as bad as they say? And how was inception Nate?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
K&D was alright. It was a fun popcorn movie, nothing more, nothing less.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
didn't expect much other than that
I’ll rent it when it comes out. Thanks for the quickie review Eric
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not bad at all. Tom Cruise is actually fun in it.
Diaz’s character is rather stupid through most of it, alas. (Woulda been played by Goldie Hawn if done 20-30 years ago). But it’s fun. Definitely a rental though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yah. Hawn would've been better at it though.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
high school
I’ve been listening to this band for 11 years. Identity Crisis was my favorite album freshmen year of high school and it just took off from there. They didn’t play anything off ID, but they did end with to awake and avenge the dead. I have no voice today.
Tommy, Inception was badass. I need to see it again though. The ending had a neat little twist that i need to figure out.
these song titles intrigue me
what kind of music is it?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
depends
they’ve progressed. first full length was like melodic punk/hardcore. then they got a little more metal, then they got a little more poppy, then indie, then heavier again, then slower. then…
here i’ll give you some favorite songs:
Phoenix Ignition
Ultra Blue
To awake and Avenge the Dead
So Strange I Remember You
The Earth Will Shake
Kill Me Quickly
Broken Lungs
The Weight
……they have a large catalogue lol
thanks
It looks really cool, even if I have no godly idea what the plot is(don’t tell me, I’d rather see it). One thing I laugh about in the commercial is when Ellen Page yells, “WAKE ME UP!!!!” I keep expecting to see Freddy Kruger coming after her or something.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
The only good Thrice song is T&C
The rest is barely tolerable screamo
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah yes
the intelligent response of a Thrice fan : )
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Josie has thrown the gauntlet
there will be blood in the water
I hope you’re ready.
(still haven’t seen that movie)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
and also
when i think of “screamo” bands, I think of Saetia, Orchid, Joshua Fit For Battle, City of Caterpillar.
I don’t really think of Senses Fail, TakTakign Back Sunday, etc, etc
Hahaha "Screamo"
I remember that was the shit in high school. Thrice was badass, I saw them twice but the one that I remember was when they played with Underoath at UCI.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 16, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
How about Brand New
do they count?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
brand new
has progressed into a really good band. I mean, every band that scream does not constitute as screamo. the devil and god raging inside of me is a fucki legit album.
I'm not asking because I don't like them
I’m asking because I don’t know how to categorize them.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I've mostly given up on categorizing bands
Too much of a hassle, just consider every band progressive and move on.
I always say I'm going to see them
but always forget to get tickets, or my bum friends who always say they also want to go claim they can’t for one reason or another.
Quiz: Who said this? (without searching)
“Do we have to have another pitcher? No,” he said. “Would I like to add some pitching? Yeah. I think we need to get healthy. I think we’re getting closer.”
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Hah! It's a trick question! ;-)
It’s Phillies’ GM Ruben Amaro Jr. doing the Jim Tracy style (self)interview.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It would have been funny if he paused at the end, at least in print:
“I think we’re getting a closer."
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah! That definitely would've given away that it was the Phillies.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I heard someone say yesterday that MLB doesn't want a big money owner for the Dodgers
Are they worried about it being Yankees West? And, if so, what’s so bad about that?
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Is there a link to "someone"? ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
No, sorry
it was just a comment made in passing in one of the threads from the last couple days. I’m at work so I don’t have time to search for it.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
That consiparcy theory goes back a while
The theory goes that MLB sold to McCourt because they knew he couldn’t be a Steinbrenner type owner.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Kensai
just mentioned it over at MOKM. If that’s true, I wouldn’t understand it. If the Dodgers did spend somewhat like the Yankees, wouldn’t that force other teams to spend more to keep up, ultimately making for more exciting baseball-increased attendance-more merchandise sales-moneymoneymoney…..MON-AAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!!
ok i’m done
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Salaries spiraling out of control northward isn’t good for baseball.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you’re right, it was on the other site. While salaries constantly going up is a bad thing (Think 2001 free agency with Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle and all the costs being directed at the fans), it would provide the #2 national market with a bigger reason to be interested, and it would provide a Yankeesesque full house at every road game.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Huh?
all the costs being directed at the fans
Costs for fans aren’t high because salaries go up.
Salaries are high because revenues are high, because fans will pay the high costs.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
This
I’m pretty sick of folk (my father for one) who assume that negotiation works like this: An athlete comes up with a crazy salary for themselves, just to see if an owner will do it. The owner agrees, because the guy has a great haircut, and then has to raise all their prices to cover it.
When in reality, owners have a reasonable projection of their expected earnings, and give players only a fair share of said money. Of course, many of these people are also those that think the government spends first, raises taxes later, and have never heard of the yearlong budget process which begins again the day after a budget is passed.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
it's true
you fellas should always go to Supercuts™ before asking for a raise. It’ll work every time.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
what if we have a coupon for Fantastic Sam’s?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Fantastic Sam’s™ have commercials? Would you trust a haircut chain that can’t afford commercials?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
but not like
Supercuts™. Look at Eric’s comment. You could fight a bull!
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
i've done that already
I have a mural of it in my room. Taking the bull by the horns. It’s a metaphor. That really happended though.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you really have that mural?
And are you shirtless in it, but like way more ripped than in real life? And is there a unicorn running through, with like a rainbow trail?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
and I can also bake you a gourmet cake in a dream kitchen i built myself
SWAN DIVE!!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair point
If I feel like skateboarding, arm wrestling, or bullfighting, I shall go to Supercuts first :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugh. Worst haircut I've ever gotten...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
From
Supercuts or Fantastic Sam’s?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
NOTE
The good haircut rule clearly doesn’t not apply to the Giants. Brian Wilson would be crossing his arms at McDonalds otherwise.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine?
We beat the lunch rush, way to go!
The hell are you doing?
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I said this earlier, but this is how he described his hair
“It’s like a lion’s mane, I just woke up from my lair and I’m ready to pounce. It’s vicious, delicious, and says Good Night.”
Dude is insane
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Sam's
Though I had a couple of bad experiences at Supercuts too. It’s a crapshoot, some of them have very good cutters who can give you a good cut for a bargain. But it’s way too risky. I admit to spending like 3x as much now with someone who I know knows what they’re doing and knows my hair well…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
[signs B.J. Ryan to a 5-year, $47 million deal]
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
In his defense
He did get 1 really good year out of that 47 million.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Introducing Dennis Gilbert
Check out his client list: http://www.gilbert-krupin.com/our-team-dennis-gilbert.php
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions
his client Joe Magrane
Wonder if he got him that MLB Network gig. This guy sounds like he actually LIKES baseball and would want to pay to win. I’m in.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Despite the fact that he lives behind the Orange Curtain
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
He’s friends with Reinsdorf, Reinsdorf pulls Selg’s strings, he’s already involved with MLB…yeah, they’d approve this guy. I’d like to know more about him before I endorse him, but I will say this: no one is going to invest with Frank McCourt without controlling the money and the team. Who would trust him? I don’t put much stock in the notion that Frank can bring in minority investors but keep control.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Frank has made money, and financial players would love the new revenue oppurtunity with the broadcast rights.
There is only so many baseball teams for sale. You can say no to Frank and wait for the next baseball ownership oppurtunity to come up I guess.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody wanted the team in 2003, and that is why we are stuck with him. I just do not really agree that it will be as easy as you think for him to lure in investors.
Team was losing money in 03 and are not anymore. Plus there is a defined liquidity event in the expiration of FOX holding onto broadcast rights.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don’t think smart money will invest in a business that has been so publicly dysfunctional, or in a partner whose real talent (as Molly said) is litigation. Where are the profits from owning 20 percent of the Dodgers if the majority owner is spending it on himself instead of the team, or is likely to sue you at the drop of a hat? Are the TV profits guaranteed if we’re now talking about who stapled what when? No, he might get some star gazers, but the real money will want control of the team. I said on DT two years ago that ultimately he’d give up the Dodgers for control of the surrounding real estate, and that still wouldn’t surprise me as the outcome.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, obviously the new partners would draft an agreement which put limitations on Franks distributions.
I’m not implying the investors would be silent. They certainly would have an influence on daily operations.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
But then you’re back to staples, agreements, who really signed what, more lawyers, more litigation. I agree that the Dodgers are a good investment that’s about to get better, but I’m just not sure why Frank McCourt would be the partner you’d want. If he owns more than half the team, he’s always going to have the vote that counts. Me, I tell him I’ll bail him out but I get that controlling say.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I said on DT two years ago that ultimately he’d give up the Dodgers for control of the surrounding real estate, and that still wouldn’t surprise me as the outcome.
That’s too risky. Frank could get boned by the city when they change the zoning laws of the surrounding real estate.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Why are owners expected to lose money, to “pay to win”?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
because baseball is public service : )
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Because you don't buy a sports franchise to make money
You buy a sports franchise to own a sports team, have that status. All but the top sports teams inherently lose money. Now, I think Ol’ George figured out that if you put a winner on the field, you’ll make more money off of it. This guy’s background profile makes it sound as if he wouldn’t be set on the idea of spending $80 million per year and paying Russian shaman a million bucks.
I’m not disillusioned to think the Dodgers should have a $200 million payroll just because we’re a storied franchise, or we’re in a large market, or whatever. I do, however, think this team and its fans deserves a better piece of the pie than we’ve gotten in the last decade or so.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
All but the top sports teams inherently lose money
That is patently false. Look at what the Golden State Warriors just sold for, the sad sack franchise in a league supposedly losing money by the boatload.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea why the warriors sold for so much. I saw the $450M tag and laughed. I have heard repeatedly in interviews and statements that the worst idea for someone with money is to think they can buy a sports team to make more of it.
You certainly gain money from the increase in franchise value, but you are still consistently operating in the red.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Do you?
I mean seriously, no, I do not have access to the financial documents of every professional sports franchise. All I have is what you have. I listen to interviews, I read papers, I watch television. For whatever those sources are worth, that’s what I’ve heard consistently.
I refuse to defend myself in this matter. The Forbes rankings and the sale price of franchices reflect what an overly wealthy person is willing to pay for the right to own a sports franchise. Who is to say they aren’t making the same mistake as many other owners and buying the team thinking it will make them year-to-year profit.
Frankly, you don’t spend to win because the fans deserve it, or because winning makes you immediate money. You spend to win because winning increases the profile of your franchise, the amount you can demand in television and marketing negotiations, and your market share.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
va scott and Eric
have just posted proof they don’t lose money. So you are going to stick your head in the sand and say LALALALLALA?
I’m going to cut this off before it becomes a bearface moment. This is ridiculous that we’re even arguing about it and the rest of my point got completely ignored.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
I’d appreciate a moderator’s intervention here. I don’t like to see this degenerating into name-calling.
this is why I always
put some kind of clairfying statment when I make a point like this.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not calling him any names
and have no intention of continuing it. Its completely ridiculous to me that someone would throw out an argument, then when someone disagrees say they don’t have to prove themselves, and then act hurt because people disagree with them. Nobody has attacked him personally, merely his opinion, his reaction was simply childish. Perhaps me saying he is acting like a baby is also childish.
I find it hard to believe that they would need to have such massive revenue sharing if owning a baseball franchise was as wildly profitable as people think. The whole point of 75% of the league (I’m discounting New York, Chicago, LA and Boston teams) having to watch their payrolls is (I’m assuming) because they don’t have the attendance, TV revenue and merchandising demands of their regions to back a $100M team.
Of course, that gets into the talk about how broken the current revenue sharing system is.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Just because they don't make as much money as new york
doesn’t mean the Marlins can’t turn a profit, but in order to compete with them there needs to be something to level the playing field. In other sports they use a cap, in baseball they are using luxury tax and revenue sharing.
I’m not even sure these MLB teams aren’t gaining value not from not winning, but because so many of them now have new TV networks and stadiums. Maybe Frank has it right. Invest in the infrastructure, make everything look pretty, and make the playoffs every couple years to keep the fans off your back.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Looking at just baseball
Look at the Forbes report on franchise values:
In 2010, only two teams out of 30 lost money, while 24 teams had operating incomes of $10 million or more.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was that the NBA and the NHL are kinda risky, but you have to actively try to lose money in the MLB or the NFL.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
You have to be an idiot to lose money in the NFL.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
There seems to be a common fallacy in this thread
that “making money” or bring profitable is enough. When you are talking about the massive investment of a professional sports team, making $10m in operating income every year is not considered a good investment. Professional sports, in their now long history, are extremely stable businesses but they are not profit machines and are not "good"investments.
There are pioneers like the Glazers and Hicks, and you can probably add McCourt to the list, who are trying to change this and turn teams into businesses that produce like similarly valued enterprises, but it’s difficult and there is no roadmap because historically the only way you make real money on a sports team is by letting the asset appreciate and then selling, Compare that to investing your $500m in other avenues and you rarely come out ahead.
When a team or league says they are losing money, they are almost always lying, or at the very least moving money around via accounting tricks, in order to either (a) have the public build them something, or (b) drive their main costs — player salaries — down
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
this I do not refute.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Could also be to keep bidders away who really can’t afford the team anyway. Conspiracy theories abound. I just don’t want to feel attacked for repeating something I heard.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Also repeating something you heard
is a very hard position to defend
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
No doubt.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
hell, I can’t even remember who said it as it was awhile ago so I’d have no way to go find the interview I was thinking of. It’s not that big of a deal, this whole argument, I just didn’t like how quickly it escalated.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
I will say this about your other points
You buy a sports franchise to own a sports team, have that status
That is fair, and pretty much describes Frank McCourt to a tee, doesn’t it?
I do, however, think this team and its fans deserves a better piece of the pie than we’ve gotten in the last decade or so.
McCourt has owned the team since 2004. At this point, all we can judge is results on the field, not conjecture about the future. In six years the Dodgers have made the playoffs four times.
Teams in playoffs more than the Dodgers 2004-2009: Yankees, Red Sox, Angels (5 each)
Teams in league championship series more often than Dodgers 2004-2009: Red Sox, Cardinals (3 each)
Obviously, the Dodgers haven’t won the World Series, but after a six-year period of success we haven’t seen the likes of since 1988, it seems misguided to say the fans “deserve” anything.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not upset we haven’t won a World Series. I’m thrilled we’re no longer in the 1990-2004 dark ages (skipping 95/96. We got swept, it was ugly, the Braves were too good), but I hate feeling embarrassed and having to defend my favorite team from fans of the opposing team for matters other than baseball. How do you defend against someone saying “haha you traded Mike Piazza because your owners suck” or “you paid a Shaman?” or “You lost Carlos Santana because you couldn’t afford $2 million dollars for a starting 3B” or “you couldn’t offer arbitration because you couldn’t afford the draft picks anyway” or “you punted your draft pick so you wouldn’t have to sign them” etc etc.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
(a) those other fans are idiots, so ignore them; or
(b) point to the scoreboard
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I love option b. Now, if we could get even a halfway balanced interleague schedule so they can’t point back, I’ll be happy.
I’m working at getting better at option a, but most of my friends are post-2002 Angels fans, so it’s hard.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
just ask them about the Angels before 2002, and enjoy the blank stares
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
As seen just last Tuesday
Rod who? Whose Rod Canoe?
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
hell
they don’t even appreciate the people they remember. Nice standing O for GA Anaheim, oh wait…….
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially
by the Irvine police department, who showed up in near-record numbers to greet him!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
It's like Plaschke would say
They can’t cheer, they’re all out in those broad concourses, getting hot dogs at a rapid pace while enjoying the lack of …uh…tension. Yeah, that’s it, tension.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
they need a monkey
to tell them they’re behind and that they should cheer their team on.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I went to an Angel game yesterday(free tickets and food woo woo)
I only missed 4 batters when getting my hot dog! Of course that includes the break between innings but gosh golly it was so fast!
How did the I-5 look from your seats? Fast and modern I bet!
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It's hard to get worked up
when a stadium feels like a summer night, your first stolen kiss with Suzie in your Dad’s Studebaker, picnics on the sand that always ended in dance numbers
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
so
it’s like being high when you’re there? Just chill? causes girl on girl action?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, why no : )
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
The Angels tried to set the world record for simultaneous Snuggie wearing. That’s at least as bad as VEnergy.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
watch where you're throwing those stones
I was at the “let’s break the world record for loudest and longest scream game”
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
at least we're not the white sox
Disco Destruction Night…..leave it at that.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers have a lot of bad ideas.
The Angels have a lot of bad ideas that appeal to white people.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
bleh
Two womans from my work chose salad over free hot dogs at the game last night, along with a couple white wines. Its like, did they end up at the stadium on accident?
You know
that sounds stupid, but I swear to goodness I feel like I almost pull something every time I sneeze. Then again, I have some of the most violent sneezes known to man.
It would be more believable if Bud Black hadn’t straight out said that they’re gonna find a way to give him a break.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a thought
does anyone think GA’s spot on the 40-man roster will only last until Brad Ausmus is ready to come back?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
If anybody thinks that, they are wrong
The spots are completely unrelated.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
When Ausmus comes back, Ellis will go back to ABQ
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
but wasn’t Ausmus off the 40-man because he was put on the 60-day DL?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
but there is no crunch for spots. Right now, there are two open spots on the 40-man, and that is before anything happens with Sherrill.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
ah yes
sorry, I forgot you said that there are only 37 on there right now.
Now I know!!!
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
though I agree Ellis will go back to ABQ
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you move May back to AA then? He’s raking at AAA but you don’t want to push Ellis to AA. Interesting problem. What about sending Ellis to Boston?
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
or moving May to a different position...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Too late for that, he can barely field his current one.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
but wasn’t he originally an infielder like Martin?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya, he is only hitting “wel;” because he’s a catcher. Any other position he’d be the R in WAR.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
it seems to me
he’s a good enough hitter for the Bigs, but below-average at the position he might be best at. If we had a DH, he might be candidate. Of course if we had a DH, it would be Manny right now.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Ausmus back, Ellis down.
Ellis barely plays now, no reason to keep a 3rd catcher.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I just started a new franchise on Road to the Show with updated minor league rosters. First order of business, DFA the shit out of GA.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 16, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it possible he could pull something while sneezing?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
PVL uber alles
I would be astonished if Ned and Joe shitcanned GA before the end of the season.
Mike Adams to the DL
That can’t help the Pades’ house of cards.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 16, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions
So now
Gregerson blows, Adams and Latos are hurt…
I’m upset that this might give them an excuse for why they slipped from first instead of it just being their good luck getting them there in the first place.
On a side note, anyone remember the proposed Martin, Loney and McDonald for Bell and Gonzalez deal? What happened to that?
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
don't think
it was ever real. Would have been quite a deal though.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
These numbers are from 2007
Five years ago, 16 teams lost money. In 2007 only three teams—Blue Jays ($1.8 million), Red Sox ($19.1 million), Yankees ($47.3 million)—posted an operating loss. But even those losses are misleading. For the owners of the Yankees and Red Sox, the huge dividends they get from their unconsolidated cable networks more than make up for the teams’ losses. Meanwhile Rogers Communications (nyse: RCI – news – people ), which owns the Blue Jays, their stadium and the cable channel that televises its games, derives huge benefits from owning the Blue Jays not reflected on its team’s P&L statement.
When it comes to players, owners are becoming more tight-fisted. During the past five seasons, player costs (salaries, bonuses and benefits) have fallen to 56% of revenue from 66%. As a result, operating income (in the sense of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) averaged over $16 million per team for the second straight year.
If the blooded doesn't just make you mad, I don't know what does, lol
No Kuo?
How is there no Hung Chih Kuo who is actually an all star in the bullpen? I mean he hasn’t even given up a hit to a left hand hitter the whole year!!! That’s pretty impressive, as is his sub 1 ERA.
by abru3 on Jul 13, 2010 6:44 AM PDT reply actions
Not enough inningsI pretty much drew the line at needing 30 for the relievers and Kuo fell just short there.
“It’s not the despair, Laura. I can take the despair. It’s the hope I can’t stand.” — Brian Stimpson
by Jim McLennan on Jul 13, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Not to mentionthe fact that he’s a LOOGY. And yeah, technically, Charlie Manuel chose him to be an all-star. Charlie Manuel also chose Omar Freaking Infante as an all-star.
Mr. Science Boy
by DbacksSkins on Jul 13, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
And that is from what/where?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The Snake Pit or whatever SB nation site the Dbacks have. It was in their NL West All-star Selection thread.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
D-backs
wish they had Kuo. Hell, they probably wish they had Sherrill.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
this is dumb to harp on, but D-backs fans are easy targets
that guy was probably just mad that Kuo made them all look pathetic.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s like kicking over a 3-legged dog
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
My birthday (the 12th) could start a new age for baseball! I really have no actual idea what it means though, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
the half-anniversary of Strasburg’s debut! :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Good call! And the 30th anniversary of Lennon’s death. :(
by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
My cats birthday is the 14th
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 16, 2010 11:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I started commenting about the Dodger possible TV network and it was too long so I did a fanpost.
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/16/1573012/des-network-dodgers-entertainment
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
For some reason
my sister wants to make me crepes. I can’t tell if this is a trap or not.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
wrap them real tight. She will never ask again
by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I know
and she can cook, too, it just seems like a weird thing for her to suggest to me. Like oh hey, I can make you crepes!
This whole “getting along” thing is new to me.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Negative
4 years younger. I’m taking her to get her ears pierced as a birthday present. Should be funny.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
just curious
I’m not really used to the idea of potential sibiling induced peril. I got 4(technically, one’s a half-bro) brothers, and I’m all of their favorite brother. If they threaten, I just bust out with a
“Sorry, remind me who it was that….”
and then insert something that applies. Examples:
Older: Lent you $40 the other day?
Younger: went and picked you up at your g/f’s house in Downey?
Youngest: Lends you his laptop whenever he’s not using it?
Shuts’em down.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
She and my younger brother are much closer
It’s rare that both of them are nice to me at the same time. I expect that to change since they’ll soon both be in college (Banana slugs!!!). I anticipate we’ll get along much better after my brother spends a year in college.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
yeah
My older brother and I’s relationship went through a rollercoaster. We were inseperable as kids(16 months apart), as we got older his needling attitude used to drive me crazy and we didn’t get along, now we’re back to being best buds.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
My sister and I have only been cool in the last two years, but other than that, I was just a little too old for them to connect to. I was busy in high school so I didn’t have time for 12 and 14 year olds, and by the time I was ready to be friendly, they were in high school and had no time for me. Hilarious.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
ah i see ya
Wasn’t very fun for me when my Older brother wanted to hang out with his friends and wanted his nerdy little brother to leave him alone.
I was a sad panda.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Being the younger brother by 3 years to a sister isn't too bad at all
I would have liked a brother, but too much sibling rivalry would have happened for my liking I’m sure.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Have I told you that we have a lot in common?
it’s eerie sometimes
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
too bad
brotha from anotha motha, can’t really be applied to girls.
someone who can bust a rhyme help these two out?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Sista from another mista
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll throw a table in your honor if the ex drunk dials me tonight. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I have happily never been drunk dialed
though I have drunk dialed others, on several occasions. And one time mushroom dialed. That was an ordeal
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
never drunk dialed
been tempted. But didn’t want to break a promise to myself.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
basically
you call or text them, they keep you from getting in trouble, and are very amused.
Reg, for example, is one of my go-to people. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
well
i’m a fairly happy and talkative drunk, but if there is no one to talk to, I just go to sleep. I have no need to drunk dial old g/fs
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s smart, because the drunk dial of the ex is a disaster.
by Michael White on Jul 16, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
i can only imagine
as I think the response I would get would be “Who are you again?”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a good thing
but I did get a kick out of it a few weeks ago, when a friend of mine saw me at work one morning after a particularly interesting night and said, “WHAT DID YOU DO?!”
I forgot I had texted him. I guess it was pretty funny.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I hope the text was
“someone put blood all over my walls ;-)”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I got drunk dialed by my first ex gf
when she was with her then husband (married? wtf right? lol). It was a very weird experience.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
My brother and I shared a room until he left for college. I missed him a lot, even though we fought all the time.
Once I got to college and matured a bit, our friendship has been awesome. He is the one reason I could live in St. Louis near my family. Too bad my wife will never go.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I gave it time and eventually got ridiculous drunk and confessed how I had been feeling to my sister about our relationship and I made her cry. Not because I was mean, but because I was so sad.
We’ve been much better lately.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
hah
I think I’ll just stick to luring my brother over to play video games to try to reconnect. If only he would get interested in baseball.
My brother and I did this all the time over the 360. It was great. We would have serious conversations over MVP baseball. But then I got the RROD and switched to PS3
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
IT'S A FRAP!
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
I picked 100% opposite on the O/U last night!
WooHoo!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
that was cool
definately “Local Boy made good”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I never thought I'd say this
but I really like Ron Artest.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
same here
I was like, “Oh no” when I heard he was coming to the Lakers, but he’s been good. Directed all his crazy to the other teams.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Other than the whole punching a fan thing. And the trying to take time off in the middle of the season to promote his album thing. And….
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
They both have major issues, and those issues have affected their interactions with fans and their teams. The individual actions are different obviously.
Well yeah, but when Artest’s interaction with the fans is assault, that’s another level of issues.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Bradley threw that bottle
but yes, Artest had fewer, but far more volatile outbursts, compared to many many smaller outbursts from Bradley?
Unless my memory is totally whack Milton did not throw a bottle at a fan
he threw it at the ground, it bounced up into the stands.
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
well one helped LA win a championship
the other…..
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
…gave us Ethier who is going to help LA win a champion?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
knew someone
would finish that sentence.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
you just figured
it’d be me : )
Look at that, he hit the f*cking bull! Guy gets a free steak!
by Josie Becker on Jul 16, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
true
you just lost to Maddz chupathingy reflexes
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
She's probably being productive
I’m home sick today. :(
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Nope.
I’m resting so I can sing my ass off tonight. Where is this going down, btw?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Nice. Your neck of the woods I think, at wherever you usually go.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
They don’t have it on Fridays? I’m sure we can find some place in which I can embarrass myself.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Damn, I’ll search for somewhere on the Westside and get back to you.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
karaoke contest?
this better be on youtube
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
MSTI has a new post
A part I thought was interesting was this.
So his spot is secure for now, but I’d really like to see if the Dodgers can cheaply go after Russell Branyan, as I suggested earlier this week. Think about it: dump Anderson, dump Belliard, keep Paul, acquire Branyan. You’d then have your non-catching bench split between two righties and two lefties, you’d be covered in the outfield with Paul and Johnson, Jamey Carroll could cover backing up 2B/SS/3B, and Branyan would be a true lefty power bat who could actually play some 1B. Even if you think that stretches the non-1B backup infield to have only Carroll, remember that it’s only six weeks until rosters expand, ABQ isn’t that far away should injury happen, and if worst comes to absolute worst, you could still stick Russell Martin at 3B for the late innings of a game where injuries mount until reinforcements arrive.
Russell Teh Muscle? what we think?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
He seems to be hitting too good
to be only a backup, or at least would cost more then what we would want to pay for a backup.
true
if he came over hear and started hitting bombs, the “Trade Loney” contingent would go ever the more vocal.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mariners got him for a C prospect and a throw in a month ago. We can probably just do it for the C prospect.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems crazy
that we’d trade a C prospect for a backup 1st baseman when the Angels could use him as their everyday 1st baseman against RHP.
Maybe the Angels can get Kotchman for nothing. Would be a funny twist that they traded Kotchman for Teixeira then got Kotchman back for peanuts.
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you do it for a C prospect though?
Sounds like a pretty good deal for us, and we would have a good DH come WS time.
You’d have him DH over Manny?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Sure
but I would think he’d have more value to an AL team that actually needs 1st baseman or DH. Hell, he’d be huge upgrade to the Tampa DH situation or White Sox.
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I completely agree
like I said above, I would be surprised if we could get him that cheap since he would certainly have more value to other clubs.
Trayvon for Branyan is probably the best fit, and I don’t think I’d do that. Especially since there’s a good chance Branyan will go 1 for his first 10 with seven strikeouts and never be seen again.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d keep Trayvon for a piece of a better trade..
by Julio Nievas on Jul 16, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew you’d be against that :). I don’t see him having the ceiling of a starter, he still strikes out a lot and I’m not seeing a ton of power potential there. He’s got better tools than a guy like Xavier Paul, but also a big flaw in his game.
And again, I wouldn’t trade him for Russell Branyan.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
sure..
if he only plays a corner. But Travyon is a CF and he hits enough to be a starting CF in the majors.
based on an AA OPS of low 800's?
Maybe but unless he’s a very good hitter, we will need to know more about his center fielder skills. For a fast guy his base running skills were a joke according to the locals who saw him play last year. I always think of guys who can’t run the bases intelligently as being crappy defensive outfielders but I have nothing to back that up.
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The numbers in CF:
2007: -30
2008: +7
2009: -12
It’s Total Zone, so don’t get too caught up in the numbers, but it’s safe to say he’s not a good fielder.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not the exact number, but I think Total Zone is good enough that you can at least tell if someone is good, bad, or average.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ceiling was the wrong word there. He can be a solid big leaguer, but I think there’s a bigger chance he washes out. Ask me next season.
by regfairfield on Jul 16, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The article talks about not having a replacement for Belliard in the Minors, but I would be interested to see what Russ Mitchell could give us in a similar capacity.
you know
I thought of that too. he’s a simliar player to Belli, just wonder if he could have more plate discipline.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't Belliard going to start playing 2nd base everday come Aug 31st?
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for him to hit like a 2nd baseman
the OB is nice and all but one home run on July 16th?
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably, but seriously it doesn’t seem like Belliard has really been used enough to keep him productive. I know he is a veteran and all but maybe he has been used too sparingly. Actually, the way the Beard is hitting right now, I might support some starts for Belliard at 3rd.
I support it
as I think Casey needs more rest than he’s been getting.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm
So Dewitt is doing alright with his OPS of 102+. I just really want to take the bull by the horn and hit himself back over to 3rd.
I like him at 2b
He’s shown in the minors he can hit homeruns. Obviously this year he’s lacking in that department. He’s has a minor league season of 19 homeruns in 06 split between high A in the FSL and AA.
dewitt to add
homeruns
2005: 12
2006: 19
2007: 14
So he’s shown the ability. I wouldn’t disregard him just yet.
Me to
I’m just waiting because I know he can do it, unless he changed his swing to make more contact and lost the power.
by meercatjohn on Jul 16, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
figured
btw, Eephus. Thanks for making me the avatar pic. I don’t know if I said thanks.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 16, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
no prob man
Im glad you liked it. Im getting back into photoshopping things for my ammusment. so if anyone has ideas that they think would be funny lemme know
No News is Good News?
Rockies not pursuing Uggla. Woulda been crappy to have to face a Cargo, Tulo, Helton, Uggla infused lineup.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Totally Agree
At the risk of stunting DeWitt’s growth as a 2B, we would field a lineup close to Furcal, Kemp, Ethier, Manny, Loney, Uggla, DeWitt, Martin with Blake off the bench instead of Belliard or GA, with Uggla serving as DH in the series.
But again, we’d have to part with one or more of our better prospects to get him or anyone else. It feels like we have some good top prospects and some good prospects at the way lower levels but nothing really in between with which to deal.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
yeah, know what would be even worse about that? You’re playing CO. ina 5 game series and have to face Ubaldo twice against that lineup.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
Except that
Ubaldo is 0-1 this year against our own ace.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
talking in general. Dodgers wouldn’t be facing the Rox in a 5 game series anyway.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
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