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Dodgers Lose Manny, Drop Game Two To Cardinals

In a sense, Manny Ramirez was lucky as he didn't have to endure another lopsided loss to the Cardinals, as the Dodgers dropped their second game in a row, this one 8-4. But the bad news for Manny and the Dodgers is that Ramirez strained his right calf and left the game after drawing a walk in the top of the first inning. For the time being, he is listed as day-to-day.

For the second time in his career, Chad Billingsley didn't strikeout a batter in a start. The only other whiff-less start of Billingsley's career came one year ago tomorrow, against Houston. Billingsley gave up seven runs on 10 hits in four innings of work. He began the fifth inning, but was pulled after walking Matt Holliday to leadoff the inning. Billingsley allowed four leadoff batters to reach base, and they all scored. He allowed at least one run in all five innings he started, and only induced two swinging strikes all night, both to Holliday.

Phil Gurnee mentioned this in the game thread, but what is so disheartening about these opening two losses after the All-Star break is that Clayton Kershaw and Billingsley were roughed up. The Dodgers lost with their best, which puts them between The Rock and a hard place:

Notes

  • James Loney had three hits, including a double, and is now hitting .435/.490/.587 in July
  • Jamey Carroll, who started at second base against the southpaw Jaime Garcia, had a triple, a single, and a walk, raising his on-base percentage to .397 on the season.
  • George Sherrill, still on waivers, pitched for the second consecutive night, allowing one run -- a two-run home run by Yadier Molina -- in his one inning of work
  • The Dodgers pitchers had one strikeout as a staff tonight, the first time they have had so few strikeouts since May 2, 2008 against the Rockies

Hiroki Kuroda gets to try to stop the bleeding against Adam Wainwright tomorrow afternoon on Fox.

WP - Kyle McLellan (1-2): 1 2/3 IP, 1 hit, 1 strikeout

LP - Chad Billingsley (7-5): 4 IP, 10 hits, 7 runs, 2 walks, 0 strikeouts

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Hate to see Wainwright tomorrow

time for Kuroda to be a stopper.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 16, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe we will find out that

Kuroda and Padilla are our two best:)

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 16, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Arent they already?

They are proven veterans! With great guts!

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need more grit!

Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.

by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh Im not that mad about this game. We ALWAYS suck ass in st. louis so this is hardly a surprise. Dont freak out about billz and CLayton yet. If this trend of walking 20 and Striking out 2 continues, then by all means freak out. Otherwise, we are ok.

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Naw, fuck fucking the prom queen

What’s her mom look like!

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jul 16, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

from last thread

sandman continuing his destruction and phil mentioning the good news about kyle russell maybe finally adjusting? cross fingers!

by npurcell on Jul 16, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I want him on our team asap

Offense yes. But more importantly the ready made knick name. The Sandman commeth! WOooooooo. And just watch he already has a knickname that he goes by that is something less awesome

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it too cliche

for him to use Enter Sandman as his walkup music?

Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.

by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

could he realistically be expected to succeed so soon?

I know the answer is probably no. Or more lilely HELL NO. But I would love to see him hit.

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not realistic to expect Sands to be called up before September 2011 at the earliest.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

so its the HELL NO answer? : )

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, though, I think we should call-up Trent Oeltjen. He is rocking it in AAA. He can sit on the bench. Who cares, right? Most of you guys don’t want Trayvon up yet.

by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a difference between not wanting something and simply being realistic.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s unrealistic because they want Trayvon to play everyday in the minors, that’s fine. He probably would not get much playing time in L.A.

But where I disagree is if the Dodgers needed an extra body for a week or two, calling up a roster guy is not outrageous.

by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jered Weaver and Felix Hernandez have faced off three times this season

(3rd time tonight), and so far Weaver has not allowed an earned run in 20 1/3 innings

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I have both guys on my team...

it is killing me!

"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson

by Ego Crusher! on Jul 16, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize.

Eric, Eephus, Phil, I am sorry. I overreacted to a frustrating couple of losses. I don’t often get a chance to post because I (1) don’t live in L.A. anymore so I have to watch late at night, and (2) I have a 6 month old baby. I enjoy reading the site religiously, and wish I could post more. Nonetheless, I get that I shouldn’t come on at random and rain on everyone’s parade. Sorry.

by BlueBulldog on Jul 16, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I reacted too harshly, specifically to one comment you made.

It was my bad.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah,

you were right to call me out. You have put together a great site here, and there is really no place for the kind of BS I exhibited. I have been a Dodgers fan for nearly 30 years, and I still have not found a good way to deal with losses.

by BlueBulldog on Jul 16, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are certainly welcome and encouraged to continue posting here. It’s all good.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey man its cool

Im sorry that my comment came across so negatively. I jumped the gun. Its my gut reaction to negativity mostly because I often feel the same way and don’t want to think about it. I get your frustration. You are not alone my friend.

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

The last 2 nights are the reason

I hate the Cardinals and hate going to ST Louis. I am going to make my annual Dodger trip somewhere else from now on. I am not in ST Louis this weekend, and this is why.

{sobs uncontrollably}

by keithc13 on Jul 16, 2010 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It was fun; nothing special, but entertaining

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool.

I was on the fence about checking it out. Mostly because TOm Cruise scares me now.

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cruise was cool in the movie IMO.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still

like him, I don’t care how crazy he is…

by keithc13 on Jul 16, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bee Tee Dub

They are making a movie about that character in TT

Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.

by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He will always be Lt. Pete “Maverick” Mitchell or Cole Trickle to me

by vadodger on Jul 16, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phil,

You are smart and I am dumb

You are handsome and I am ugly

You are witty and I am dull

We talked on here the other day about #99 and his overall worth and you were mentioning trading him because he won’t stay healthy and spends too much time on the DL to be trusted. I argued that your idea was foolish because when he got back this time it would be the last and he is way too valuable to trade away.

You win…..

by keithc13 on Jul 16, 2010 8:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey Phil wasn’t the only one who wanted to trade manny!

by nolander on Jul 16, 2010 9:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

WOW

and sorry this has nothing to do with the game, but I just looked through my ESPN Mag and read Molly Knight’s piece on the Dodger divorce.

I know it as linked here earlier this week, and many have probably already read it, but I finally got around to it, and I feel sick. I knew it was bad, but I didnt know how slimy and deceitful these people really are

everything from the allegiances in the front office, to McCourt’s plan to double tickets and lower payroll, to the expensive property and luxuries purchased while loans were needed to support to the team, to the money not spent on draft picks, to “project Jaimie”, while I knew about some of it, reading it all of it at once like that was really tough to swallow

I have no reason anymore to feel optimistic about this franchise unless it is sold, maybe I’m overreacting, but I feel that after we, in my opinion, inevitably miss the playoffs or get bounced before the WS this season, it will only get much worse before it gets better, unless a new owner with some real $ steps in and tries to clean things up

sorry for a negative rant after a tough coupe of games, It just happened to be the headlined article in the latest issue of ESPN, which I just happened to read : /

William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.

by Ollie on Jul 16, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I honestly think we beat

Wainwright tomorrow afternoon. Hiro will pitch like my hero and the bats will get us just enough runs to win a 4-2 game.

{does another keg stand}

by keithc13 on Jul 16, 2010 8:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m going to keep trotting out that (now) 998-996 stat until either one team gets 1,000 or they are tied!

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES! I say we split the series

THe first two games were just really really awful luck. I say it snaps back in our favor tomorrow. Tho, if you have a chicken and feel the need to kill it as sacrifice, I wont stop u

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make sure it's a live chicken

Pedro Cerrano says KFC no good, bats are afraid.

Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.

by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

blah

why do we always suck in St. Louis?? cant wait till we get home so we can beat up on the Gnats.

by draft dodger on Jul 16, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

It's only 19 losses out of 23

but that doesn’t count the one playoff game last year:

:)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 16, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is in the top 10 for creepiest photo ever.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010

by K3vo on Jul 16, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be so easy to Photoshop him with a gun. Ha. I might have to do it. Not tonight though.

by CTBMikeD on Jul 17, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

i was thinking a small child.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010

by K3vo on Jul 17, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the same look Padilla had on his face

when he got shot in the leg. Maniacal at best.

Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.

by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Uh oh

Russell Martin left the game with a swollen left thumb. Per Dylan on Twitter.

Here’s me jumping to conclusions :) Do we activate Ausmus tomorrow???

by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

in days before this would bother me

right now I am meh to this news. its not like russ is killing the ball (not like that Bengie Molina)

by EephusBlue on Jul 16, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Bengie Molina, here’s a great call of his cycle. It also features J.D. Drew playing an out into a double. “Pigs have flown in Boston!” FYI – Bengie now has 60% of the Molina brothers career triples. He’s obviously the fast one.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100716&content_id=12310234&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."

by Langhorne on Jul 16, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking Ausmus might be an option even before Martin was hurt. He could contribute as much as a reserve as Robinson would.

by JonWeisman on Jul 16, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But the good news is

If Manny’s hurt, GA will probably get more playing time!

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Jul 16, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Kyle Russell is heating up at the perfect time.

by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 10:31 PM PDT reply actions  

and only induced two swinging strikes all night, both to Holliday.

That is crazy. Sounds like he just didn’t have his stuff tonight.

by Jesse S. on Jul 16, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I missed the game

LOLina Day today, from what I’ve heard…

Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves

by angelofdeath on Jul 16, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Tim Collins, the short lefty the Braves got in the Escobar deal, struck out 5 in 2 innings tonight.

by silverwidow on Jul 16, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Odds of winning the division

At the All-Star break my simulator had the Dodgers chances of winning the NL West at 43.33%. After the first loss to the Cardinals, it dropped to 39.18%. Now after the second loss to the Cardinals, it has dropped to 35.52%. Nonetheless, still slightly higher than the next team the Padres at 33.01%. The Giants are now third at 17.02% and the Rockies are fourth at 14.44%. The only division where four teams all have such good odds at winning their division.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 16, 2010 11:57 PM PDT reply actions  

This, I don't understand

They need to fight. It’s the only real fight left.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 17, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

This makes me very mad.

by Michael White on Jul 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Glad I mssed this game, and seeing restored cut of Metropolis tonight

was definitely a good reason too. Awesome, hope it comes to DVD this way so y’all can see it (with this new score). Whoo boy.

Anyway… sorry about the Dodger game. Looked shitty from what I saw in the Gameday updates tonight. So bad that even the Yahoo box score linked above seems to gyp the Dodgers out of their 4th run in the run scoring plays list.

Hope they can still salvage a split… Night!

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jul 17, 2010 12:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I attended the game tonight in st. louis..

It was very hot – though not that humid. Bad thing was there was little breeze in the stadium.

We got there early enough to see batting practice.
I’m not sure if the Dodgers just try to hit line drives in BP, but there was only like 4 hrs in all of BP, and I think 2 of them were by Xavier Paul. Maybe baseball has changed, but I remember watching BP in the past and the players would just crank them out of the park. Tonight – not at all.

As for the game – I wondered why Randy Winn was starting. Then my d ad made a comment that he must hit .400 vs Billingsley bc no other reason he would start. Sure enough, he hits even better against him and really hurt him that 1st inning. Not sure why Loney was playing so far off the line.

We were discussing that after Yadier Molina hit a homer off Sherrill…that it could be his last night in the major leagues. Whats the point of keeping him on the team even if he did refuse a minor league assignment…just DFA him.

Overall, not a great time. Game wasnt close, it was hot uncomfortable stagnant air, and nothing that exciting happened.

by Joey Joe on Jul 17, 2010 1:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I had the same thought

they seemed to be shifted over in the infield and that came back to bite them in the ass.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 17, 2010 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also - the PA announcer sucks..

Didnt even notice Manny had left the game until on the scoreboard it showed Paul in his place. No announcement was made. I’m not sure how he hurt himself either.

by Joey Joe on Jul 17, 2010 1:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Great. Starting the 2nd half exactly like the 1st.

I know it’s only two games in, but I just don’t want to get so far behind that we find ourselves trying to dig out of a hole a la the first half.

by avickjr on Jul 17, 2010 4:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I expected to come out of this series 1-3. We just suck in STL these days. Just take your lumps, and then come home and kick ass in the division (again). And then beat STL in the playoffs (again).

Very discouraging to see our 1-2 pitchers do so poorly against these guys, however.

by KellyStephen on Jul 17, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was definitely surprising.

Kershaw especially. Must have just been unexpectedly hot, imo.

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 17, 2010 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Hudson, luckiest pitcher of the year?

ERA: 2.30
FIP: 4.24
xFIP: 4.19

Now look at,

LOB%: 84.9% (2nd in MLB to Wade LeBlanc)
BABIP: .232 (2nd in MLB to Trevor Cahill)

by Xeifrank on Jul 17, 2010 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Martin:
They’re going to have to knock me out before they put me on the DL,

AJ Ellis was seen in the background making a call to Iron Mike Tyson

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 17, 2010 8:15 AM PDT reply actions  

heh
AJ Ellis was seen in the background making a call to Iron Mike Tyson

I loled cause i saw the scene from the Hangover last night where Mike Tyson knocked Zach Galifinakis the fuck out.

by npurcell on Jul 17, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

“He’s still got it”

by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caught The Damned United last night

thank you to those who suggested it.

"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010

by K3vo on Jul 17, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

So terrific. I’m not a football fan and really enjoyed it. Sheen and Spall are both excellent.

The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy

by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Glad you guys liked it!

They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.

by Maddz on Jul 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

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