Another Game In St. Louis, Another Dodger Loss
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 4:13 PM PDT
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PrintThis whole losing in St. Louis thing is getting kind of old. For the third straight day, and the 20th time in their last 24 regular season games in St. Louis, the Dodgers dropped a game to the Cardinals, this time 2-0.
Hiroki Kuroda really battled today. He was effectively wild early, but only walked one batter in his six innings of work. The Cardinals squandered a few scoring opportunities before pushing across a run in the fourth inning. Kuroda settled down after allowing that run, and retired the final eight batters he faced. He struck out eight batters today, and has struck out 45 batters in his last 42 innings.
The Dodgers had only two real scoring chances in the game, and both were erased by double plays:
- In the second inning, the Dodgers started the inning with two singles, but with runners on first and third base and one out, Xavier Paul grounded into a twin killing
- In the sixth inning, Rafael Furcal led off the inning with a double, moved to third with one out, but James Loney ended the inning with a double play
Adam Wainwright was pulled after six scoreless innings and just 89 pitches, a welcome sight for the Dodgers, but they were unable to do anything against Kyle McLellan in two empty frames. The Cardinals pushed across an insurance run on a sacrifice fly by Brendan Ryan in the bottom of the eighth.
James Loney had to be helped off the field after popping out in the ninth inning, after suffering what appeared to be a leg injury of some sort. Yadier Molina helped Loney stand up until the training staff came out to assist Loney off the field.
Vicente Padilla takes the mound in Sunday's series finale, as the Dodgers try to salvage a game from the Cardinals and Jeff Suppan.
WP - Adam Wainwright (14-5): 6 IP, 5 hits, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts
LP - Hiroki Kuroda (7-8): 6 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 8 strikeouts
Sv - Ryan Franklin (17): 1 batter, 1 out
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Question:
Are you writing these any earlier than you normally write the recaps? They seem to appear immediately following the games, at least the past three. Is it a jinx… or do you write them early all the time and end up erasing some in the event of something crazy?
We don't believe in jinxes
I personally try to write them all early when I’m doing the recaps.
by Michael White on Jul 17, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I try to get major facts in the story early, just so I don’t forget them.
The last two nights the Dodgers were down 6 when I started writing them, so I had the tone of the recap pretty much set already.
In a game like today, I had a loss written but then if they would have tied it I would have had time to re-write.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I can design a recap bot for you
Everything will be all wrong and it will look like a mad lib, but that could help out, right? :)
I think that's what Plashke uses.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
in Philadelphia
August 22-25, 2008.
The Dodgers would lose four more after that, then win eight straight.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean
given the state of the system, outside of Kershaw and Dewitt, the lack of production from the drafts from 2004 forward is what disappoints me.
Sure, is it great that guys like Kenley and Jerry Sands are moving up into the top 10 but really outside of Kershaw, what Top 3 prospect has made an impact since the Chad, Martin, Broxton, days of yore.
Well, his left fist.
That right arm is still a little sore.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
you should ask if he was the top dodgers prospect lol
I’m sure Callis still believes in the arms of Withrow/Martin etc.
Not sure why he thinks so highly of Chris Withrow.
He’s not had a good year this year,and beyond his K rate from prior seasons, he doesnt look like a high upside talent.
Maybe a #3 or #4 starter at best.
I’ve seen different things about his pitch arsenal. Some are bearish on all of his offerings except the fastball.
If that’s true, he’s a reliever.
by Michael White on Jul 17, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
his first full season
was only last year and he posted a 3.49 FIP in the Cal League at age 20. Of course he’s having a down year now but if its not from injury, lost off stuff etc, you still really can’t give up on him.
If the Dodgers are gonna lose
I wish they would have the goddam courtesy to lose 6-3.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
If Loney is hurt
My hunch is that it would be some type of floating combo of Casey Blake, Belliard, Anderson, Carroll and Blake Dewitt playing 2nd, 3rd and 1st.
Maybe they sign Gibbons to come up and mind the bench for a weeks.
Loney is not hurt
It’s just a severe cramp.
And, yes, I know Sands is not coming up this year. But long term, he is absolutely an option at 1st base if need be.
60% of the time, we're in 4th place every time.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Per Josh Suchon
Loney was getting an IV after the game, but he was fine. “99% chance Loney will start tomorrow.”
That's so awesome
I wonder why the switch suddenly just flipped on from being so cold before. Either way it’s great news.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Any chance he’s just streaky like that?
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Thats what this team needs
More streaky hitters. Is it just me or have we been on of the streakiest teams on the planet the last few years?
Per Suchon on Dodger Talk
both Manny and Martin aren’t expected to start Sunday.
It hurts Martin more hitting than catching (insert joke here). Martin is available to catch if needed if something happens to Ellis, and can pinch hit tomorrow.
Manny might be able to pinch hit tomorrow, but it’s unlikely.
Was 72F at the beach today
Water temp was very cold though. Saw lots of dolphins and seals. Feel sorry for those suckers in the sweltering midwest.
Trayvon Robinson
is not in the line-up today after last night’s early exit. Havent seen any injury news, so perhaps being held out in case of a call-up? Havent noticed any other prospects sitting so I am guessing Robinson is not part of a brewing trade.
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Webster only pitched an inning
And the Loons radio guy was theorizing about a possible trade.
Take it to mean whatever you want, though. I don’t think it means much of anything.
If Ned Colletti was truely forward thinking, he’d trade Manny at the deadline if it was possible to get the other team to take on the deferred payments.
Since Manny’s not going to be here next year, and you cant get draft picks out of him either (since he wont be given arbitration)…and that the team doesnt look strong..while also needing some reinforcements at the prospect levels…I hope the Dodgers can trade him.
I dont expect them to though.
One worrisome thing is Xavier Paul.
I dont want to sit thru a full season of .258/.307/.358 out of left field. I know its only been 98 Abs…but I dont think you can count on him in LF next year.
Hopefully there’s enough money for Werth, and he’d be willing to come back.
The Dodgers are more
likely to spend money on pitching in the off-season, both starting and relieving.
I'll be surprised if they spend any money on anything
The amounts committed to the existing players is already quite a bit.
Thats why things look pretty bleak right now.
Not alot of budget to get free agents.
Nothing in the minors that is that great.
The core might become an expensive collection of averageness…and boom the Dodgers are stuck in the malaise that plegged them during the 90s and 2000s
The Dodgers are more likely to spend money on pitching in the off-season, both starting and relieving.
If for no other reason than we have half-decent options to fill our free agent offensive holes, and there are a shartton of quality pitching options on the free agent market this year. Going to be a buyers market.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Ned’s #1 target will be Carl Crawford if you ask me. Probably won’t have the funds to get him, but that’s who he’ll be after.
Right now
They have Bills, Kershaw, maybe Ely and McDonald as starters, Broxton, Kuo, probably Jansen and maybe Lindblom in the pen.
They will probably need to spend money for some starters and one bullpen guy.
You’ll never find a team to take on money, let alone money already earned.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The Angels have less overall money that they are paying to players not on their roster
but they are picking up almost of all GMJ’s salary for this year and next year and they have to figure out what is up with Kazmir.
St. Louis officially gets awarded the:
JJust found this image, and i don’t know if I will stop laughing. . . . ever.
"Go fuck yourself" -Eric Stephen 6-29-2010
"Oh honey, I'm chalk full of juju" -Maddz 7-15-2010
by K3vo on Jul 17, 2010 7:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What The Hell Is That Thing?
Is that some kind of costume?
by CanuckDodger on Jul 17, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy crap
that is awesome.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Well the good news from today's game
(which I watched on tape, late, and thus had the same feelings of utter frustration that y’all had happen via tape delay) is that Kuroda looked a lot better today. He was wild at times and they swung through some balls but he had great movement and looked a lot closer to the Hiro we know and love. He kept them in the game and they had some chances to win it for him but couldn’t come through. I just hope bats wake up against Suppan tomorrow or this series will officially suck (more). Not gonna freak about teh standings too much given the schedules over the first week or two after the AS break not favoring LA too much and it should be up and down for awhile, but a win tomorrow would make us feel better.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Also: As much as we all want GA DFA'd you can't help but feel bad for him
after he was robbed by Pujols in the 8th. I thought he’d had a hit for sure. Poor guy… (who I still don’t want on my team but we’re stuck even after Manny and RJ are back.)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Looks like 4th place and 4.5 games behind after tonight.
Giants up 6-2 in the bottom of the 7th.
Padres up 8-5 in the top of the 9th.
Standings are just a state of mind. Until one can appreciate the sound of one fan clapping, one shall never achieve baseball nirvana. We are like the cup of tea, overflowing. No more can go in. How can we achieve Zen — wins — unless we first empy our cup — with losses?
Also, the Dodgers are just kinda sucking right now, but they’ll get over it and play better soon.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Saying the word “already” implies that I have periods of drinking and non-drinking. That implication is false.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Miller
Horrible start tonight:
2 IP, 6 ER. Gave up 2 bombs. ERA in Chattanooga is now 5+
And the Kyle Russell Comeback hit a speed bump as he only got a single and struck out twice.
Everything in life, including the Dodgers’ projected chances of winning the NL West at the All-Star break, is impermanent. Life is brief. We must accept where we are in the here and now, or we will not have time to accomplish anything.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Humma went to Panda Express tonight.
Put down the fortune cookies
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
by G.Scott on Jul 17, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
watching Tiger at Indians on extra innings free preview
The player whose name shall not be mentioned just smacked the Tigers catcher in the mask with his bat on his follow through and the Indian announcers said that happens a lot while he is batting from both sides of the plate. It has been awhile since I played the game, but if you do that often enough doesn’t it warrant the catcher calling for a bean ball.
He also hit a home run while
playing both games of the doubleheader, Catcher, then DH. I just find it funny that they said he wasn’t ready in May but have ran him out there just about every day since they brought him up. That is the 2nd time he has played both games of a double header. How many catchers catch the first game and DH the 2nd.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
certainly did not mean to imply he is not playing great
just that a rookie who was that problem on his follow through could be asking for trouble. wnder if they were trying for longer team control and cost contorl by bringing him up later
by MammothDodger on Jul 17, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Josh Johnson was a 4th round pick in 2002. Of those we selected above him: James Loney, Greg Miller, Zachary Hammes, Jonathan Broxton, Michael Nixon.
Can’t complain too much, as everyone else passed on him at least 3 times as well, and we had a pretty sick draft. I just like going and looking at drafts and wondering what might have been.
Everytime you think how badly you want Frank McCourt gone, ask yourself how you would feel to have Donald Sterling instead.
Funny quote from George Sherrill..
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=5389434
“It looks like bloggers know more than I know”
He must check TBLA everyday.
the waiver period is 5 days?
Although news that Sherrill had been put on the usually top-secret waiver wire broke late Wednesday, there are strong indications the move wasn’t made until late that day, which means Sherrill won’t clear waivers until the end of business Monday.
wasn’t it said earlier that he would clear later today? or do weekends not count?
I guess it really does not matter because no one will pick him up at full price
by MammothDodger on Jul 17, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
so Bud gets a couple days off
and the clock stops for the rest of MLB, seems stupid, but not that big a deal in this case.
I assume they will open up if Boston or NY want something taken care of
It has to be a strange situation for Sherrill…
It seems the team doesnt want him, but he wants to stay.
Has to be uncomfortable in the clubhouse for him.
Players don't care
It’s not like he’s a pariah in the clubhouse. Now, Torre and Honeycutt may wish they had other options but they are certainly professional in their dealings with him.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 18, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
AZL Dodger team running wild
10 SB’s so far, led by Baldwin’s 4
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 17, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions
It’d be nice if in the next collective bargaining agreement…that MLB can get rid of the rule allowing veterans to decline minor league assigments, yet the clubs are still forced to pay their salaries even if they decline.
Thats not a fair rule for the clubs.
The opposite is not fair to players. That particular point seems to be a hard-won one for the union.
However, if what you’re really suggesting is that there might be middle ground somewhere, I can agree with that.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Why isnt it fair to the players?
The club is an employer.
If they tell you to do something, and you dont do it…that seems like grounds for insubordination.
What isnt fair about sending a player to the minors?
IMO, if a player is under contract to the major league club, then they are obligated to report to wherever they are assigned. And if they do not, then their salary is forfeited.
It is not fair because clubs could, and I presume did, punish players by sending them to the hinterlands. These are the same kinds of reasons why baseball has the Rule 5 draft — to keep players who should be in the majors in the majors. Baseball needs, and has, a relentless push to get the best talent to the highest levels.
You can say that Sherrill shouldn’t be in the majors, and that’s a fair point. But I think it’s a debatable point — Sherrill, for one, would debate it. And I think the rules should err on the side of what’s right for the player.
Besides, where’s the limit? Should the Dodgers be able to force Garret Anderson to play in Albuquerque or lose the salary he negotiated? I don’t think so. I’ll make up an example. Say Team X signs FA Y to a big contract. Team X lands in the cellar. In mid-June it’s clear they’re not going anywhere and they want to save the money. “Go to the minors or forfeit your salary,” they say. Well, that shouldn’t happen.
Silverwidow has an interesting take on this — why can a player who isn’t FA eligible decline that? Those should coincide. That makes sense.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I think if a club pays a salary to a player, then they should be able to assign them to wherever they deem fit.
I guess I just disagree. If you think there’s no limit to that — any player, regardless of his tenure or status, should be forced to report wherever he is told by his club — then we just disagree.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 17, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This is why there is
the rule re players having to be put on the 25 man roster and then on the 40 man roster within a certain time frame. Also the idea that teams could assign players wherever they deem fit ended with the end of the Reserve clause.
Finally, 5 years service time is not something that just happens, somebody has to value you enough to earn that much service time. Especially since the average stay in MLB is certainly less than that.
So Sherrill earned that right and the Dodgers gave him a guaranteed contract for this season so he is just exercising what is in the collectively bargained agreement between MLB and MLBPA.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 17, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it fair that Clayton Kershaw is making less than $500k this year? There are all sorts of things that benefit one side or the other.
This just happens to be a case when the player has the hammer. Nothing wrong with him using it.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 9:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You want to know what isn't fair
Players being drafted in any league. The reason that leagues deal with unions so all of these things can be collectively bargained thus avoiding someone suing on behalf of himself citing it being unfair that he has no say where he plays professionally.
My hunch is that compensation will be eliminated for free agents, in return, the players union will agree to hard slotting for draft picks (why should the union care about players that for the most part don’t even join their union for years if ever).
As for the Sherrill situation, it probably will stay the same because in reality, its a pretty small nunber of players that teams want to send down each season and they have more important things to negotiate.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 17, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Silverwidow was right
Allen Webster pitched only one inning because of his rest schedule.
http://www.mlive.com/loons/index.ssf/2010/07/loon_line_great_lakes_at_wisco.html
Baldwin
He has 3 singles, and 6 SB’s! This catcher probably shouldn’t be a catcher
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 17, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
OT:
Some time ago, I saw the movie A Man for All Seasons, and I thought, it’s good and all, but this movie is a crock of shit. If somebody told me that I had to say a certain phrase or I would be killed, leaving my wife a widow, I’d say whatever it was they wanted me to say. There are no words so powerful that they are worth a human life. Sir Thomas More, says Humma Kavula, you are full of shit.
And so, now I’m reading Wolf Hall.
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
“Here lies Eric Stephen, who refused to say ‘Nice backwards black Dodgers cap.’”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 17, 2010 11:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate working weekends
But when we play the Cardinals in St Louis, I’ll live…
Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves
Good for Ned, enemy of SSS
""I’ve never floated [Kemp’s] name," General Manager Ned Colletti said. “He’s a gifted, five-tool player. He’s getting better and better. He’s had a tough couple of months. It’s a baseball career. It’s not a baseball two months.”
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 18, 2010 7:11 AM PDT reply actions
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