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State of the Minor League System - Starting Pitchers

Chris Withrow is number one

I saved the best for last in my minor league series, starting pitching.  I think this is the strongest minor league postion for the Dodgers, and I have more analysis after the jump.  Also, here is a recap of the links for all of the other positions I posted in the series.

Catcher

1st Base

3rd Base

2nd Base

Shortstop

Right Field

Center Field

Left Field

Relief Pitchers

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Preseason Current Name How Acquired Age Height Weight Throws Current Level
1 1 Chris Withrow 2007, 1st  21.31 6' 3" 195 R AA
3 2 Garrett Gould 2009, 2nd  19.01 6' 4" 190 R Pioneer Rookie
6 3 Aaron Miller 2009, 1st  22.84 6' 3" 200 L AA
2 4 Ethan Martin 2008, 1st  21.13 6' 2" 195 R Hi-A
7 5 Carl Webster 2008, 18th  20.44 6' 2" 185 R Lo-A
13 6 Rubby De La Rosa Signed 7/2/07  21.38 6' 1" 170 R Lo-A
5 7 Nathan Eovaldi 2008, 11th  20.44 6' 3" 195 R Hi-A
N/A 8 Ralston Cash 2010, 2nd  18.92 6' 1" 197 R Arizona Rookie
4 9 Scott Elbert 2004, 1st  24.94 6' 1" 215 L AAA
21 10 Elisaul Pimentel Signed 12/12/06  22.03 6' 2" 170 R Lo-A
8 11 Brett Wallach 2009, 3rd  21.63 6' 2" 180 R Lo-A
15 12 Matthew Magill 2008, 31st  20.70 6' 3" 175 R Lo-A
10 13 Brandon Martinez 2009, 7th  19.66 6' 4" 150 R Arizona Rookie
N/A 14 Ryan Christenson 2010, 7th  21.52 6' 1" 185 L Arizona Rookie
12 15 Carlos Frias Signed 1/3/07  20.69 6' 4" 170 R Pioneer Rookie
17 16 Yimi Garcia Signed 2009  19.93 6' 1" 175 R Arizona Rookie
14 17 Timothy Sexton 2007, 25th  23.12 6' 6" 185 R AA
11 18 Brent Leach 2005, 6th  27.67 6' 4" 220 L AA
29 19 Alberto Bastardo Signed 1/13/06  26.29 6' 0" 160 L AAA
19 20 Beyker Fructuoso Signed 7/9/07  20.29 6' 3" 195 R Arizona Rookie
18 21 Josh Wall 2005, 2nd  23.50 6' 6" 190 R Lo-A
33 22 Greg Wilborn 2009, 18th  23.13 6' 2" 175 L Pioneer Rookie
16 23 Jon Michael Redding 2008, 5th  22.68 6' 1" 195 R Hi-A
20 24 Gustavo Gomez Signed 2008  19.16 6' 1" 150 R Arizona Rookie
24 25 Moises Tamarez Signed 2009  18.38 6' 3" 195 R DSL
25 26 Antonio Castillo Signed 3/30/07  22.38 5' 11" 180 L Pioneer Rookie
30 27 Arismendy Ozoria Signed 2009  19.96 6' 0" 195 R Arizona Rookie
26 28 Jesus Castillo 2003, 27th  26.14 6' 0" 195 R AAA
32 29 Daniel Tamares Signed 9/26/06  20.59 6' 3" 170 R DSL
31 30 Bobby Blevins 2007, 13th  25.51 6' 0" 200 R AA
23 31 Edwin Contreras Signed 11/28/06  21.84 6' 2" 165 R Lo-A
27 32 Mario Alvarez Signed 1/16/03  26.32 6' 0" 205 R AA
N/A 33 Chad Arnold 2010, 18th  22.87 6' 4" 170 R Pioneer Rookie
N/A 34 Red Patterson 2010, 29th  23.20 6' 3" 210 R Pioneer Rookie
22 35 Bolivar Medina Signed 2007  22.03 6' 2" 175 L Arizona Rookie
N/A 36 William Savage Signed 2/2/10  25.91 6' 4" 210 R Hi-A
36 37 Luis Rosano Signed 2009  19.24 6' 2" 190 R DSL
35 38 Luis Mesa Signed 2009  20.02 6' 4" 170 R DSL
34 39 Jose Dominguez Signed 7/2/07  19.96 6' 0" 180 R DSL
9 N/A Danny, Danielson 2007, 7th  21.61 6' 4" 220 R Retired
28 N/A Travis Chick Signed 12/3/08  26.11 6' 2" 220 R Left as FA
37 N/A Marlon Arias Signed 3/11/03  25.89 6' 3" 150 L Left as FA

 

Starting pitching is probably the strongest and deepest position in the Dodgers minor league system.  By my count, there are currently at least 10 pitchers who have the potential to be at least a #4 starter in the major leagues, so the Dodgers could continue to have strong home grown pitching for years to come.  Of course not everyone will pan out, but even if just one or two turn out to be good major league pitchers then I'm sure the Dodgers will be happy.  

Similar to the relief pitchers recap, there are lots of starting pitchers in the Dodgers minor league system, so I will only highlight a few key names.  Despite his 2010 struggles, the #1 starting pitching prospect still has to be Chris Withrow who has at least 2 plus pitches and is still just 21 years old.  I'm convinced he'll eventually turn things around and eventually pitching like a top prospect, although that might not happen until 2011.  Garrett Gould hasn't pitched much at all yet in professional games, but I'm pretty high on him and I'm hoping he turns out to be something special.  He's been just mediocre thus far in 2010, but he's still young and gaining experience.  Rubby De La Rosa has an electric arm and has thrived in 2010 as a starter, so I have high hopes for him.  Carl Webster continues to surprise people and has really been amazing since being drafted in 2008.  His career ERA is now 2.54 in 149 innings. 

A couple of risers this year include Matt Magill and Elisaul Pimentel.  While neither of these guys will ever be the ace of a major league staff, they both are having breakout seasons and could potentially help out the Dodgers at some point in the future.  Other guys are trying to regain their form in 2010 like Josh Wall and Alberto Bastardo

2010 draftee Ralston Cash has only one professional inning under his belt, but he is young and has a solid pitching frame, so I think he has a bright future.  2010 7th round pick Ryan Christenson has also been a pleasant surprise as he has dominated thus far with the Arizona Dodgers.

There are also several players that are unknowns at this point, but could be very good.  Included in this group are Brandon Martinez, Carlos Frias, Yimi Garcia, and Beyker Fructuoso.  Finally, in case you didn't already know, it was discovered that Danny Danielson has quit baseball, so that is why I have him classified as retired.

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I think Cash has pitched twice now for 3IP total

Just a reminder, fans, comin' up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dodgers won a pennant.

by G.Scott on Jul 21, 2010 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome job

The top twelve are pretty sweet. I’ll be upset if Ned trades Miller, Webster, or Eovaldi.

by kinbote on Jul 21, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Major omition

No love for Elisaul Pimentel?

by Table on Jul 22, 2010 12:02 AM PDT reply actions  

You really thought I forgot someone?

That would never happen…my lists include everyone (everyone under 28 years old that is)…I even got the DSL guys on there!

by Brandon Lennox on Jul 22, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strength of the system, you have to go to 17th to find a name I don’t like.

by Tripon on Jul 22, 2010 12:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Withrow

33 walks against LHB in 39 innings. F-ing YIKES, that is NOT No.1 stuff…RHB on the other hand, he has excellent control.

Always had a problem with lefties, if he wants to improve, I think he should develop a cutter or slider..

by Julio Nievas on Jul 22, 2010 2:09 AM PDT reply actions  

he is 21

he has split struggles… relax. He isnt a #1 right now, but he can has the potential to become one

by lakersdodgersyankees4life on Jul 23, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also

dude on Dodger’s Scout.com says that Gould’s fastball has touched 90 only a couple of times in his last start. NOT GOOD.

by Julio Nievas on Jul 22, 2010 2:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Should we be worried about that from an 18 year old?

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He pitched low to mid 90s when we drafted him.

I’m sure he’ll raise it in time. But that was disappointing to read.

by Julio Nievas on Jul 22, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy, but

Rubby De La Rosa should be No. 3 and stop wasting his time in A ball..

by Julio Nievas on Jul 22, 2010 2:26 AM PDT reply actions  

you got your wish about the promotion

Has there ever been a player better than Detlef Schrempf?

by bucknellbruin on Jul 26, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is Withrow’s second plus pitch?

Is Miller the closest to the majors on the list?

by Michael White on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't have all my data on my work computer...

but I’m pretty sure most scouts consider his curveball another plus pitch, or at least a plus pitch potential.

In terms of guys on this list without major league experience who are closest to the majors, I’d say Miller is a good bet, although it is possible a guy like Alberto Bastardo, who is doing OK in AAA, could beat Miller by getting a shot if the Dodgers have a few most starting pitching injuries and still have room on their 40 man roster

by Brandon Lennox on Jul 22, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Eric for adding that picture

I searched for Withrow but I couldn’t find him in the image database…plus I’m still just getting used to putting posts on the main page

by Brandon Lennox on Jul 22, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions  

No problem

I took that one in spring training (with my shitty camera)

by Eric Stephen on Jul 22, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It has the added bonus of Doug Mientkewicz in a Dodger uni!

Just a reminder, fans, comin' up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dodgers won a pennant.

by G.Scott on Jul 22, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d forgotten he was a socks guy!

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve really enjoyed this series, thanks.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 22, 2010 8:33 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Ditto

Just a reminder, fans, comin' up is our "Die-hard Night" here at the stadium. Free admission to anyone who was actually alive the last time the Dodgers won a pennant.

by G.Scott on Jul 22, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

DelaRosa

should be higher! wheee!

by npurcell on Jul 22, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like Beyker Fructuoso in the discussion

- any discussion – because I love the name. What a name! Even better than Rubby de la Rosa.

by berkowit28 on Jul 22, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Isn’t Gould 18? Or did he just turn 19?

"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"

by Ivdown on Jul 22, 2010 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

just turned 19...

the ages in the data above are as of yesterday.

Also I’ll have to see if I can listen to his next game to see what his current velocity is

by Brandon Lennox on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent series

You gotta love a list where a guy that has actually had a stretch of major-league non-Sept call up time is sitting 18th. Do you really think Leach’s best shot is as a starter, or does he come back around as a reliever eventually? Clearly the Dodgers are interested in him starting, thus the conversion this season, but in your opinion, does that stick?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I went back and forth several times

on whether I should include Leach as a starter or reliever. The reason I ended up putting him as a starter is because he has actually been pretty successful thus far in AA as a starter, because his fastball just doesn’t seem good enough for a reliever, and because he is already 27 years old. If he were 23 or something I could see him going back to relief, but at 27 this seems to be his last shot. If he doesn’t succeed here, he might get taken off the 40 man roster

by Brandon Lennox on Jul 22, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wall seems underated

It seems odd for him to fall in ratings given he has led the organization in K’s nearly all year. I realize that he is old for the league, but his velo has been up consistantly since spring training. His fastball sits in the mid 90s and routinely hits 97. The announcer in his complete game said that he was still hiting 95 in the 9th inning. It would seem at the very least he could be a solid reliever and exceed 97-98 for an inning or two. In a preseason article DeJon said that he was a definite starter. I guess because he has Fb, CB, Slider, change and split.

by bd54 on Jul 23, 2010 7:17 AM PDT reply actions  

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