Kershaw, Jansen Put Up Zeroes, Dodgers Win 1-0
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2010 4:30 PM PDT
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Much like Chad Billingsley earlier in the week, Clayton Kershaw came through for the Dodgers when the absolutely had to have their starter pitch deep into the game, leading the Dodgers to a 1-0 victory over the Mets. Kershaw pitched eight scoreless innings, and would have pitched the ninth had his spot in the batting order not come up in the eighth inning.
Manager Joe Torre was impressed, saying Kershaw "has learned how to pitch, as opposed to trying to overpower people." This was the third time Clayton Kershaw has pitched eight scoreless innings in a game. He also turned the trick July 29, 2009 in St. Louis, and May 29, 2010 against Colorado.
Russell Martin delivered an RBI double in the eighth inning, for the only run of the game, giving the Dodgers the win and their third shutout in five games.
The Dodgers were operating today with a very short bullpen. Jonathan Broxton, Hong-Chih Kuo, and Jeff Weaver were all unavailable, leaving closing duties to Kenley Jansen, who was pitching just his second major league game. Joe Torre said he normally wouldn't put such an inexperienced pitcher in that kind of situation, but after watching him pitch Saturday against the heart of the Mets order, Torre had no hesitation to give him the ball in the ninth inning today. Torre said Jansen has been on the club's radar screen since the end of May, and that they didn't call him up just to occupy a spot in the bullpen. Jansen is here because he can get batters out in late innings, and that's how Torre intends to use him.
Jansen became the eighth Los Angeles Dodger to get a save in one of his first two career games:
| LA Dodger Saves In 1st 2 Games | ||
| Pitcher | Date | Career Gm |
| Ron Perranoski | 4/18/1961 | 2 |
| Joe Moeller | 4/12/1962 | 1 |
| Jack Smith | 9/10/1962 | 1 |
| Dick Scott | 5/8/1963 | 1 |
| Jack Billingham |
4/21/1968 | 2 |
| Charlie Hough | 8/12 & 8/14/70 | 1-2 |
| Alejandro Peña | 8/14/1981 | 2 |
| Kenley Jansen | today | 2 |
The Dodgers are off tomorrow, but open up a series in San Diego with Chad Billingsley facing Jon Garland.
WP - Clayton Kershaw (10-5): 8 IP, 7 hits, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts
LP - Pedro Feliciano (2-5): 1 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 1 strikeout
Sv - Kenley Jansen (1): 1 IP, 2 strikeouts
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lol
lol not much power??
this guy has hit 5 opposite field homers in the last month….
he has power
he does
he reminds me of chipper jones in his prime – line drives all over the field and he will hit 30-35 hr per year i’d say
also has a gun from behind the plate
unfortunately he’s a stud
by lchristmas on Jul 25, 2010 5:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
then giants also have bumgarner and his under 2.00 ERA whereever he plays
form rookie ball to the majors
hes like matt kemp at Catcher
with better strike zone awaareness
phil… didnt you think buster was going to defintly be a bust??
I thought he was over hyped, looks like I was wrong
I was expecting a Weiters type introduction to major league pitching.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Los Angeles Angels
The Diamondbacks traded SP Dan Haren to the Angels for SP Joe Saunders, RP Rafael Rodriguez, minor league pitcher Patrick Corbin and a player to be named later on Sunday. Haren made 21 starts for Arizona, going 7-8 with a 4.60 ERA.
(Updated 07/25/2010).
Giants just 4 game swept the Dbax in Arizona..
Thanks for showing up for that series..
Their team morale has to be at a season low.
So what would be a reasonable workload
for a former catcher who has been pitching for about a year?
kershaw
is a goddamn beast. he started where he left off last season with some control issues and is now ripping off 7-8 inning starts with few walks… awesome.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 25, 2010 4:51 PM PDT reply actions
why would they say ptbnl if its conger
why not just conger
It almost has to be Tyler Skaggs if it’s going to be someone relevant and not Trout.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Just got back, too
My kids and their friend ran the bases after the game. That, combined with the absolutely stellar game, made for an epic day. Not sure my kids picked up on the momentousness of the occasion, but it was pretty fun. And fast, heck. Is that the shortest game for the Dodgers this year, or close, at least? In any case, it was a fun day, nice to Jansen in person.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 25, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
That is better than the old CK. Me likey.
I looked at all of the box scores of the games listed above for saves in first 2 games. 3 of them are 1 inning saves or shorter, Hough had a 1/3 IP save 8/12/70.
There is one 5 IP save; 2 4 IP saves; 1 2 IP save and a 1 1/3 IP save.
Pretty impressive how he came in a dominated 2 games in a row.
In his last 9 starts, Kershaw has 58 Ks and 14 walks in 61 innings. I checked yesterday and I’m fairly sure it was 53 innings 55 ks 13 walks in his last 8 starts, so yeah.
Beastmode.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
beast
wow kershaw.. and everyone on minorleagueball says kershaw aint an ace because he has horrible control…. they obviously dont follow the dodgers cause they dont know things like that
Half the people on there know absolutely nothing about the Dodgers. Anyone who says Kershaw isn’t an ace hasn’t paid attention.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Kershaw is tied for 6th in walks allowed in the MLB this year (I believe he was leading that back in May by a really big margin) at 55 with...
Jimenez. Yeah.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
they really know nothing about the dodgers
nobody knew jansen and they probably dont know maggil de la rosa pimental or anyone besides withrow sands and gordon and lambo
To be honest I don’t think many of us knew who Rubby, Pimental, Magill (I did cause he’s a Royal High School grad), or even Sands were before this year.
Our system hasn’t been respected since Kershaw graduated as our last top prospect who’s done anything for this team. I hope that’s starting to change soon.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Again I say TOP prospect :P
But good point, I forgot about Blake doing well.
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yeah your defintly right
but now we do and they have no idea
From ESPN's player page
News: Kershaw pitched eight shutout innings in Sunday’s 1-0 win over the Mets.
Spin: Kershaw (15-8) allowed seven hits and an intentional walk while striking out three on Sunday. Kershaw now sports a very nice 2.96 ERA with a 56:138 BB:K ratio in 130.2 innings.
Find anything strange about this? :)
Haren
Is he going to dh for the angels on his off days? Sad he won’t be able to hit anymore..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 25, 2010 5:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
oh wow
totally forgot about that… that really sucks
That is really a garbage return IMO (without knowing the PTBNL of course). I am happy for the Angels and happy that Haren is out of the division, but that is one of those I wish the Dodgers could have swooped in with a better offer.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure they could give AZ a guy who could post a near 5 x-FIP in the majors
by Michael White on Jul 25, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
and who would that be
and you cant name ely cause hes not proven like saunders to give you innings and a 4 era
I guess 4.62 starts with a four. Saunders is seeing all of his peripherals drop and he doesn’t seem to do anything good.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
facing pitchers will improve his stats and peripherals
chase well yea you are right about that
and they move all the haren money for the next 2 years
and get some flexibility..
they are basically saying we know we are going to suck for the next 2 years … deal haren and get some prospects an inning eater and rebuild
We could get rid of Ethier and Kemp
and really get some good flexibility, but does that make it a good idea? I hope your reaction would be no.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
but mccourts think the dodgers are contenders
az knows they arent contenders..
the dodgers?
yes they are
thts why they wont trade ethier or kemp for flexibility…
you brought up those 2 being traded
Oh i see. I wasn’t saying we should trade those two, I was just saying just because some trade would free up room in the payroll doesn’t mean a team should do it. Even if, unlike the Dodgers, the team is out of contention. Don’t trade a player just because you’re out of it, trade them because you get the best deal you can.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
If AZ knows they aren’t contenders, why go after Saunders? I assume they want someone like Saunders who is a finished product. But if you are rebuilding, the Dodgers would have sent Withrow.
by Michael White on Jul 25, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i dont know ask them
maybe so they have an innings eater to get them through some games
He had to face the Athletics and the Mariners for one fourth of the schedule.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
true
now he gets to face the giants padres and pitchers
You are acting like Saunders is at all good
He’s not. mid 4 ERA…that’s tremendous for a 4th (possibly 5th) year pitcher…or not.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
His career era is mid 4s...so I'm not sure where you are coming up with the "bad year". You might be thinking opposite, and one good year
He has 1 season with a sub 4.44 ERA. 1 season.
4.71 ERA 4.08 FIP 4.38 xFIP
4.44 ERA 4.26 FIP 4.52 xFIP
3.41 ERA 4.36 FIP 4.65 xFIP
4.60 ERA 5.17 FIP 4.80 xFIP
4.62 ERA 4.70 FIP 4.94 xFIP
Holy crap, he’s worse than I thought.
His FIP is getting worse every year of his career until this year, where it’s gotten better than last year, but then still much higher than every other year of his career. His xFIP has gotten worse every year, and it’s to a point this year where he’s nearly worthless.
There isn’t a highlite in his statistics career wise.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
The D’Backs basically traded their farm system for Haren.
Then they traded Haren for Joe Saunders and Patrick Corbin.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
would have been better off with Corbin Bernsen
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He's too busy
taking grounders off the chest to be bothered right now.
“What, did you want me to dive for it?”
I liked you better when you were just a ballplayer.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
“If I ever see you tank a play like that again, I’ll rip off your nuts and shove them down your fucking throat.”
“Who wants tea?”
by Eric Stephen on Jul 25, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He's more valuable in Psych than Saunders is with a baseball right now :)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Monk, Ely, McDonald, uh.....
Claudio Vargas?
J/K on the last one, but I would think that we could’ve made them a better deal with one of the above and a better prospect deal.
onley says corbin is a A-/B+ prospect
radriquez will help them in their bullpen and the PTBNL which will probably be skaggs is a really good prospect…
so!
:) It would’ve been hard for us to send enough to them for the Dbags to trade him within the division. I guess they got some value, just seems like if they waited till Wednesday or so, they could’ve gotten more. Besides, he has a pretty reasonable deal. Wouldn’t have been the worst idea in the world to keep him.
I’m not really versed enough in value as far as Minor Leaguers go to make a realistic deal. I don’t study it enough. I rely on guys on here, like you, that pay more attention to this stuff.
Then I tell my friends around here and sound smart! :)
Coribin and Skaggs
are in low A and high A respectively. They’re a long ways off from the majors and TINSTAPP applies. They both have good upside but rolling the dice on young arms for haren doesn’t make sense wth me.
He does know that this is the crappy Rafael Rodriguez, right?
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
i have no idea who he is
onley says he wil help them in the horrible bullpen
Onley says a lot of things. 25 year old with a strike out rate under six in AAA.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He is 21 (just turned) with good but not great stats in LoA and HiA this year
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=571578
There is no way he is a B+ or A- prospect, Olney is full of crap.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
His stuff is supposed to be really good, but Sickels had him at C+ saying that he needs a lot of work.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
whaat
i know onley is full of crap….
but a K rate of over 9 in A+ ball and a GBFB of 1.51 and a really good walk rate for a young lefty (18 in 60 innings) and hes a LEFTY
He's doing well
but he is, in no way, a B+ or higher prospect.
I’m just saying, he’s not a top prospect.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
If they were content with Saunders
they should have been content with Mcdonald or Ely, but whatever floats their idiotic boat.
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hah
the angels would never trade saunders for mcdonald or ely
So? I don’t get the hard on you have for Saunders, he is not good in any aspect of baseball. I’m not saying Mcdonald or Ely would be better, but I am EXTREMELY confident they would be able to put up the same or similar numbers as Saunders has. Seriously, Saunders is NOTHING special.
Gotta love how dumb the Dbacks are.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Yes he is. the dude just isnt a good major league pitcher. Last 3 years he is 52 out of 59 qualified starters in WAR.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 25, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at the stats I posted up above in response to you
He really is that bad.
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I’m sure the fact that the Dodgers are in the same division also negatively affected any ability to get Haren.
by KellyStephen on Jul 25, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
That's true
Our equivalent of this trade would had to have included Bills plus a low prospect for Haren I’d guess. So glad we wouldn’t do that.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
i dont think bills is in any way equivalent to saunders
(if that’s what you’re saying)
moronic trade for the ’backs, they would not have taken a similar bag of shit from us, I guess
by lchristmas on Jul 25, 2010 7:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
no
hes saying that since bills is better then saunders… we dont need to include top end prospects like the angels did in corbin and skaggs… just some lower level prospects
Jerry Dipoto actually managed to be a worse GM than Tommy Lasorda.
by regfairfield on Jul 25, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
theriot is the worst defensive 2nd basemen
yesterday he made like 5 made plays,,,
today first inning.. he tried to do a barehand and it hit his leg…
then he threw the ball over the first basemens head on another play… in the first inning!!!
Well that’s a record. Oh, wait…it’s not true? Damn.
by KellyStephen on Jul 25, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Yo Eric
Just got back from a long weekend in the desert. And please note: it’s still hotter than hell in Rancho Mirage in July.
Listened to the game on the way home and saw the last few innings on TV. Man, that Jansen kid was fun to watch.
Equivalent deal?
I have a problem coming up with the top end of this deal, would you give up a Withrow or Gordon plus the following for Haren.
Josh Lindblom
Aaron Miller
Matt Magill
gordin AND withrow
need to be included plus other prospects..
I would for Gordon and the rest of them.
But I have said that I don’t follow the minors enough to be taken seriously. I think that Gordon will be a light hitting, fast SS. Not that desireable in todays game. The rest of them are prospects. None of them are locks to be in a rotation in the next 2 or 3 years, so…..I would for that.
job well done by the starting pitchers in the last few games
The Dodger’s starting pitchers have given up 1 ER in the last 37 IP for an ERA of 0.24
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
LA #Dodgers relievers to have 2 K & not allow a run in 1st 2 MLB games: Bob Welch (‘78), Mike Judd (’97), Jeff Kubenka (’98), Kenley Jansen
He broke off one
that made Jason Bay look silly. . .but like Eric said it was mostly fastball
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 25, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
okay i just watched his inning
that 88mph tailing pitch…2 seamer or change up? Whatever it was, has the potential to be nasty.
He’s huge on the mound. He definitely looks like he belongs out there closing games in the 9th.
broxton will soon be costing a lot
i say we let him go in free agency…. dont pay him 12 mil a year… agree or disagree?
his secondaries are good enough
lol he doesnt even need secondaries with that fastball
jansen
threw 95 to 98 mph fastballs…
1 cutter at 92
1 changeup at 88
2 sliders at 81 one which jason bay swung and missed
Week in review should be up at 6:30, so look out for it. I should be on the road by then.
Great win today.
Must be awful
to take on the rest of that 4 year 44 million dollar contract…WHY COULDN’T WE GET HIM??? lol
Instead of Monk throwing 6 scoreless we would have had Haren throw 8 scoreless this week :)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
it would have been much more expensive for them to trade him to us. Much More.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
besides
now we can save our farm to trade for Grienke. ;)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 25, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
We can't get him
basically for the same reason we have not been involved in the Halladay and Lee and now Haren deals, other teams feel the Dodger prospects are too far away and the Dodgers can’t deal anyone on the MLB roster since that would defeat the purpose of the deal.
The reality is that the Dodgers had no one who could equal the Joe Saunders part of the deal.
The strange part however
is why a team so hellbent on rebuilding wants a proven major league pitcher already close to FA. Saunders is going to die in Chase.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Glad Byrnes is gone
I know he made mistakes but he’d never had made this deal. Part of the future was going to be dependent on what they got for Haren, looks like they misfired, don’t think we need to worry about them for a while, which is good because they will be wasting the Upton years.
Webb will be a free agent, they could have the worst rotation in the NL next year.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
ian keneedy saunders edwin jackson
who else? rodrigo lopez and
As Reg said above
The Haren deal amounts to this
The Dbacks dealt Carlos Quentin (Chris Carter), Carlos Gonzalez, Brent Anderson, Greg Smith, Aaron Cunningham, and Dana Eveland for Joe Saunders, Rafael Rodriguez, Pat Corbin, Scott Schoeneweis (dealt Connor Robertson for him in 2008) and maybe Tyler Skaggs
Just read about the deal
kind of amazing, I’m glad if Haren was not dealt to the us that he went to the Angels. Shame he won’t be able to bat anymore, that must suck for a pitcher who loves to hit.
If you can get Haren and not deal Conger, Trout you have to make the deal. It would seem we are overpricing the Haren’s and Oswalts just like we did Lee last year if these are the deals.
You would think the peformance of Kenley Jansen this weekend would cool the heels of Ned just a tad when it comes to acquiring relief help. No way he trades Jansen.
I’m sure you have all discussed this but the coolest part of todays story was that Jansen was the first catcher that Kershaw ever pitched to. When they were showing Clayton in the dugout during the 9th I don’t think I’ve ever seen Clayton so animated and he was so geeked after the game in congratulating Jansen while waiting for the fielders to come in.
Never thought I’d say this but I’m enjoying these razor thin shutout victories.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Angels have a 92.5 million dollars guaranteed for 9 players in 2011
which includes the $11M to Gary Matthews Jr.
They also have 11 arbitration eligible players (including Weaver, Morales, Aybar, Kendrick and Napoli).
They aren't crying about payroll
They knew this was a reload year and that was a big bullet they just added.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Um, no
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
um yes
people were predicting it was skaggs…
now it is official
I’m asking if someone said it had been official already..
by Julio Nievas on Jul 25, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
is it too much to ask for to get
ted lilly and scott downs? we would have such a good chance to win it all with that… :(
kershaw, billingsley, lilly, padilla, kuroda starting.
belisario (when he’s back), monasterios, kuo, downs, jansen, broxton in the pen.
lilly would be reallyyyyy good at dodger stadium since he’ll finally have a pitcher friendly park.
Could happen on Lilly
I think NY and Boston would like Downs so I wouldn’t try to out deal them but they have no interest in Lilly. Lilly would be a solid option for our rotation.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The way the rotation
has been going of late, I’m not sure that he would be in the rotation in the playoffs.
I realize that we are in July and a lot can happen between now and October.
Ken Rosenthal
tweeted that the Dodgers were off of the Blue Jays pitchers because of asking price. {MLBTR is where I read it}
As far as Lilly goes, it would seem we could get him. They also said on MLBTR that Gorzelanny sp? was available. I don’t know if this is true, but I would just assume go after him as go after Lilly.
The price might be higher for TG, because of the deal he has now.
If Gorzelanny is available
I’d much rather have him then Lilly for the future. Not so sure about this year, his control is still a problem but for a fifth starter you’d be hard pressed to find two better options then Lilly or Gorzelany.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
he would give us a really good 5th starter though, the rotation would be dangerous every night.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
but we still wont have the DOMINANT starting pitching like other teams
ours would just be solid.. except for kershaw….
we would have to hope for a HUGE postseason from one of bills padilla or kuroda to win the championship along with continued dominance by kershaw
Haven't read a word all day but
Nice win today. I’m happy for Martin and cautiously optimistic for Jansen. Tend to think AZ got the better end of the deal. Where’s all the TBLA Night noise? I’m getting pumped even if nobody else is! I might even consume a malt.
Tickets are moving slowly
but I’m glad your going. A couple of newcomers to TBLA night but we need more step or ………..
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You think AZ got the better end?
They could have gotten a real top prospect from just about any other team. I’m sure the Yankees would have given up Montero (and made him a 1B), but the Dbacks wanted a MLB ready arm for whatever reason…it’s not like they are ready to contend next year or something. I wonder how long till they trade Upton :D
If only, right?
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
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Kenley Jansen
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