Dodgers Don't Just Need Pitching At Trade Deadline
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 8:53 AM PDT
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The main need for the Dodgers heading toward the trade deadline this Saturday appears to be pitching, and rightfully so. The fifth starters have collectively been garbage this season (5.77 ERA in 30 starts, averaging under five innings per start), so an upgrade would be nice, preferably someone to help next year as well, considering the 2011 starting rotation right now consists of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, and, and...
However, pitching isn't the Dodgers only need. Here's a look at the Dodger bench this season, and it isn't pretty:
| 2010 Dodger Bench | ||||||
| Player | PA | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS | wOBA |
| Carroll | 249 | .279 | .377 | .324 | .701 | .325 |
| Anderson | 156 | .182 | .206 | .277 | .483 | .211 |
| Belliard | 146 | .213 | .303 | .331 | .634 | .280 |
| Johnson | 135 | .291 | .316 | .386 | .702 | .303 |
| Paul | 123 | .252 | .300 | .342 | .642 | .288 |
| Ellis | 58 | .204 | .286 | .224 | .510 | .242 |
| Green | 9 | .125 | .222 | .125 | .347 | .181 |
| Ausmus | 8 | .250 | .250 | .375 | .625 | .270 |
| Hu | 0 | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
Considering that the Dodgers are without their best hitter, Manny Ramirez, one of this group -- well, Carroll, Paul, or Anderson right now -- has to start every night in left field. Manny might be back in a few weeks, but even then what will the Dodgers get? How often can he play the field? Reed Johnson's back is balky at best right now. The options from Triple A aren't all that enticing, either.
The offensive problems aren't limited to the bench, either. The Dodgers have scored 27 runs in 12 games with a .280 on-base percentage since the All-Star break. Since the first trip to Cincinnati -- back when Matt Kemp looked like an MVP candidate -- the Dodgers are averaging a paltry 4.14 runs per game. That covers their last 85 games, so it isn't a passing fad.
So, when Ned Colletti pushes his shopping cart through the trade market this week to pick up an arm or two, I hope he doesn't forget to stop by the bat section as well. The Dodgers are in need of offensive help.
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Yup
This is what I’ve been saying too. And they need someone to replace Reed Johnson more than they need someone to replace Manny, if maybe a better bat than RJ. Someone who can face lefties and spot start out there and give them a boost off the bench. Not sure who that person is mind you.
Maybe they’ll try Jay Gibbons first and then trade for someone in August post-waiver deadline…?
What do the Giants see in Cantu btw?
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What we need to do is give up on GA, try to trade Belliard and bring up Russ Mitchell. I haven’t really hear anything about Reed Johnson, what is going on with him? If he is going to be out much longer, then we probably do need another OFer.
Johnson’s back is still giving him trouble. One day, it feels better. Next day, it feels worse. He probably needs a week or so once they set a rehab timetable, and they aren’t at a point to do that yet.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
X-man a bit of a disappointment
We all had high hopes for him when he got called up. I still do, but those numbers are unimpressive.
Garret Anderson’s batting line is actually painful to look at.
XMan has been fine, as a lefty vs righties
I don’t havea problem with his numbers other than that he needs a platoon partner.
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I think many of us expected something like this
He was never a big prospect, just a guy putting up huge numbers in AAA, which loads of guys do, especially after they’ve logged some major league time and repeated AAA.
........
well played Stephen
(hats are still ugly.)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
they are not unattractive girls
not trying to get into details, but certainly not enough to get me to an angel game
I doubt
in their abilities to carry on a conversation about the interchangeability of chapters in a bildungsroman
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, they’re cute.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I didn't mean like, Oh they're cute, be nice
they’re just cute. That’s the most they can aspire to be.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I don't
it’s not what I aspire to. :P
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Maddz aspires to triple takes and DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNs
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Cute?
Baby ducks are cute! I want to be exotic and mysterious.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
go hard or go home
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
If less is more, think of how much more more is.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you telling me
I should go back to being “thick”?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Does that sound like something I would say?
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
What about...hats?
Sorry. Yeah, I see the hats now, they are pretty terrible.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Would Manny still be able to bat with his injury in a DH role?
I doubt that the team would try and trade him away considering how popular has been, and it probably isn’t likely that an AL would want to take a gamble on him with his injury. Just wondering if he’s movable or not.
Unless the pitcher is Oswalt or Lilly, I don’t want the Dodgers to get another pitcher, relief or starter.
I want Luke Scott, BJ Upton or Cody Ross. If there is another comparable player out there, put him on the list.
It has been a dismal week but somehow the Dodgers have won. It’s easy to get caught up in the short term because the Dodgers had a great start, scoring a lot of runs/game in April. I do agree that the Dodgers need a bat more than they need pitching.
There are a lot of problems but getting rid of GA for a better player seems to be necessary. That trade that was floated out there by Christina Kahrl of Baseball Prospectus where Baltimore would give up Miguel Tejada and Luke Scott for some prospects might be a deal that would fit for the Dodgers as well as the White Sox. That would be an injection of depth and it seems relatively cheap. It’s not easy doing business with the Orioles but Ned has pulled a deal off with them before. This time, we should try getting something out of it.
by squirrelmasterz on Jul 28, 2010 9:12 AM PDT reply actions
Correction
“It has been a dismal week… for the offense.” Pitching has been outstanding. And they’ve won more games than they’ve lost. The offense has been bad though.
They didn’t get off to a good start in April, offense or no, 3 and 5 over first 8 games.
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Garret Anderson
What will he have to do to be released? Would literally defecating in his pants on the field be enough or would he have to scoop some into his hand and throw it at Ned Colletti’s box?
I would go further than Eric, I’d say the Dodgers need a league-average bat (or two) more than they need a pitcher.
Not only is there no bench, without Manny we are stuck starting subpar bats at 4 of 8 positions (5 if Kemp decides to revamp to suck mode full time)
What do you do with that bench help when Reed and Manny are ready to play? Paul is perfectly fine as the man on the bench.
I’ve heard people say we need bench help, but I’d like to see some concrete suggestions. Bench players are bench players for a reason. Belliard was a bench player last year, no one would have been very interested in him, but he came and did the job but I’d like to see the person who felt that was going to happen.
Ty Wiggington might be usefull but at what price do you pay for a guy who will sit behind Blake and DeWitt?
Are we looking for players to replace Blake and DeWitt, and at the same time someone who can handle LF on a regular basis?
I’m serious, do you turn Manny into a pinch hitter ala Jim Thome if you do acquire Luke Scott or Cody Ross?
I would trade for a starting OF, and mix Manny in here and there once he comes back, and have him as the main PH most nights.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
So Luke Scott or Cody Ross then?
I’m okay with that since we need a LF for next year since everyone seems to be writing off Paul after a few games.
Sure
The offense has averaged 4.14 runs in their last 85 games; I thought it could be a 5 run per game offense, but I was mistaken.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like the bench and Paul are taking
the brunt of the offensive criticism when Blake, Martin, Andre, Kemp could all shoulder a big part of it.
Well, none of those guys are getting replaced via trade. I think the Dodgers will end up trading for a bench-type bat.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean, Carroll is becoming a problem as well. His OBP is fine as an occasional starter, but he simply cannot be our RH left fielder. The more he plays, the less I like him.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone have an .800 OPS since the break?
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
If they did get Cody Ross (which right now is unlikely, esp with Coghlan’s injury) but just as an example… if they added Ross, he can play 3 out 4 games and also fill in for Ethier or Kemp too. So you can get a much better rotation of 4 outfielders going, and rest Manny much more often when he’s back.
Unfortunately someone like Ross is likely not coming this way…
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Cody should still be available
the future outfield of the Marlins appears to be Morrison/Maybin/Stanton. Maybin will be back to take over CF shortly unless he was hurt more then I remembered.
Maybin was just activated Tuesday for their AAA team
and played yesterday (made diving catch in the field) so maybe you’re right…
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Are we satisfied with the production that DeWitt has provided? I’m pulling for the guy, but should we look to upgrade the position?
DeWitt has been almost perfectly average. With our financial situation, we have to live with average and cheap.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem recognizing a man when he performs.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Would he be above average as a 3rd baseman?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
He has been (slightly above) average overall
as a hitter (102 OPS+).
NL 2B have a 101 OPS+
NL 3B have a 103 OPS+
Right in between
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting, since I usually assume that average for a second baseman is around 95ish and a third baseman should be 105. Is this just because all the good third basemen are in the AL.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
…And that just hasn’t been true for the last three years. Second basemen are right around 100 since 2008 for all of baseball. Third basemen are in the 104 range.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Chase Utely
and the fact 3rd baseman now suck. Every time (hyperbole) a good young 3rd baseman hits the major leagues they either fail or are moved.
Braun – Moved
Gordon – failed
LaRoche – failed
Marte – failed
Headly – kind of failed
Kouz – no big deal
Wood – failed
Thank God for Longoria
and Casey Blake! Oh.
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Alvarez is starting to hit
kind of…
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by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
If he plays defense like he did in that limited time he was there, yes.
In reality, no. He’d be below average offensively and he’d need to play better defense than he’s capable of to make up for it.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Uggla?
I’m not really a fan of his at all, but I could see a fit. He’s a huge offensive upgrade over DeWitt and probably very close to a wash defensively.
Marlins are saying they want to extend him now. And now that Coglahn is hurt, they don’t really have a great replacement for him I think.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
They have zero replacement for him
They are trying to trade Cantu and if someone suggests we get Cantu, I’d suggest they re-think that suggestion.
Have they met
Blake DeWitt? He’s cheaper, younger, and….. that’s about it.
(All in jest, in case it doesn’t play that way.)
Yeah what is it the Giants see in Cantu?
I hope they give up good prospects for him.
Maybe they think a change of scenery will be good for him?
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They seem to be in Colleti mode
trade for a bat, any bat, just to make it seem like they are doing something.
Speaking of which...
Marlon is available!
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Yeh I should have phrased that different
Colleti usually trades for someone that can have an impact, although at times it really seems like he just felt he had to make a trade no matter what.
I'm never quite understood the group sentiment
about fixing a bench when the bench does not produce. I don’t really think it matters that Belliard is not hitting in part time duty, the odds of someone producing in limited time is just as high. I just seem to think that the group think forgets bench players are bench players for a reason and the fewer times they get regular duty the less they will produce.
If anyone thinks Miguel Tejada is going to hit better then Belliard playing once or twice a week and pinch hitting against the tough setup/closers in the league then we disagree.
Belliard is among the least of the problems
The problem now is that we have an open spot in LF that could be fixed in as soon as, say, 2 weeks, but likely needs a boost for the rest of the year. We need a capable hitter to play LF at least semi-regularly, even if only to serve as Manny’s half-time caddy.
We also need an actual capable PH rather than GA.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Trade for Mark Reynolds, make Casey Blake the PH, forget about Oswalt, bring up Ely. Problem solved. We only need to send some “winners” to Arizona and it will work.
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Just because you keep suggesting the Dodgers acquire Mark Reynolds doesn’t mean the D-Backs want to trade him.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I know. Pipe dream at best. I think beyond Upton, Reynolds would be the second guy on that team I would keep even if they were about to rebuild. You don’t find power like that just anywhere.
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it is no joke
Reynolds is probably the one guy I really worry about when the Dodgers face the D-backs. I know he’s more likely to strike out than not, but it just seems whenever he gets the bat on the ball, it goes a LONG way.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
from the buzz, pretty much everybody but Upton and Kennedy on that team is available.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s the only reason I mention it. Why Kennedy is such a hot commodity is beyond me. Maybe it’s because of what they gave up to get him? Sounds an awful lot like an underperforming high draft pick blocking the way for a better prospect just because he got a bigger signing bonus.
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it’s probably just because he’s young and under team control. he’s had some success, but I don’t think he’s all that great of a pitcher, yet.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Other then when he has pitched against us
I’m pretty sure Kennedy is having a solid year.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=6986&position=P&season=2010
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
They might as well
they have pretty much killed the next two – three years.
We could do something interesting. Move Casey Blake to the Twins for a prospect. Move said prospect and others to Arizona for Reynolds. It would create a huge gaping hole in the clubhouse, so we’d need some veteran moxie to fill that void. The Twins could also send us Punto. That should do the trick.
it would certainly be buying low on Reynolds (.215/.335/.488) that’s for sure
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't say I wanted him, just said I expect he's available
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
what about Kelly Johnson instead of Reynolds?
he’d probably be cheaper than Reynolds and we could shift Dewitt over to 3rd
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by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
i still wonder
if another hitting coach could help him out. I mean, the D-backs are on pace to set a team record for strikeouts. Shouldn’t they have replaced the hitting coach by now?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t tinker with him. With Reynolds, you take the good with the bad.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
not tinker with his swing
but maybe just have him excercise some patience. Though maybe being in a better lineup would help that too.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Is he the new Adam Dunn? Except with half decent D.
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seriously
that blew my mind. Maybe pitch recognition then. Might just be me, but it seems to me a lot of the pitches he strikes out on are ones out of the Zone.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Dunn always said he strikes out a lot because his eye is TOO good.
So he strikes out looking a lot. I wonder the % of Reynolds’ K looking to K swinging.
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Walking is not the problem
simply making contact. K rate is now 42%. Who was the last guy to have a K Rate above 40% and stick around major league baseball?
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Look at that Zips(U) projection
almost dead on.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Career 26%
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1006308&position=OF
was only over 30% once in his career.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
yet more than anyone
still love that video of him corkscrewing himself into the ground in the WS
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
The strikeouts aren’t killing the Diamondbacks.
I remember Stenier droning on about this point one of the times they played and I was listening on radio. He was going on an on about how shitty the team was because they gave up the most runs and they had the most strikeouts. But at the time, the Diamondbacks had scored the most runs in baseball, so the strikeouts hadn’t affected them at all. It was the pitching, because (at the time anyway) there was no better team in the NL at scoring runs.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Ballpark effects need to be considered
Their OPS+ is 92, although it was higher than that at the time (but closer to 100)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
better then Blake this year
and I would think he has a better chance of bouncing back next year then Blake does.
I have to believe some of that is attributed to playing on a team that was out of the playoff hunt in early May. That being said, he plays in what I believe to be a top 5 hitters park (I would rank Yankee Stadium, Citizens Bank Park, Coors and Kauffman above it) so his numbers should be much better than they are. Especially considering his slugging percentage is the same as Martin Prado’s.
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as far as that guy hit's them in Chase
he’s got power that plays anywhere.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Bottom line
1) I like Reynolds
2) Arizona does too
3) He’s relatively cheap the next 2-3 years
4) I don’t see Arizona trading him
5) I don’t see the Dodgers interested (see Dunn, Adam)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you think if we threw in some whipped cream (and TWINS) they’d send them to us?
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are you saying the ice cream is a lie?
just like the cake?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
This idea of Ned chasing a big bat scares me.
Okay, this has been a craptastic stretch. But I see the chances of Ned pulling of a really great deal to land an impact bat being less than Ethier, Kemp, and Loney all suddenly hitting a hot streak.
I believe if Ned picks up a bat, it will probably be Jeff Franceour. He could platoon with Paul and serve as a RH PH. Not that I like him a lot, but he seems like a guy who might be able to help our current situation.
they’ll probably be less likely to trade Frenchy with Bay on the DL
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
i heard they put him on the DL
I may have heard wrong.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
seems like they are VERY down on him over there
and would be very open to getting rid of him, personally, do not want, seems like his ego is far ahead of his actual track record
No, not our two masters of the straight ball!
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Cubs
should give us Zambrano, and an ass-load of cash. That way we have a pitcher, and a potential pinch-hitter.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you really want them to send an ass loaded with cash? Maybe if it was Jessica Biel’s..
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No
we model it after Chad Billingsley’s ass, then after we get the cash, we give the ass model to Maddz as a going away present.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I like you because you’re always looking out for me.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
you give high-fives
though I think this calls for a fist bump
(holds out fist)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
An ass-load of cash for
an ass? Pass.
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by underdog on Jul 28, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would prefer to have Edwin Jackson over Ted Lilly because as Eric noted above we need a SP for next year as well. And, EJax has talent he just needs to put it back together like he did last year.
He’s definitely talented. I just don’t like the idea of paying him $9mil for next year plus losing prospects. We could use that 9mil to sign someone of the Duchscherer/Webb mold instead and have just as many quality starts.
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The Phillies need to go back to sucking.
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well they did just lose Victorino
are they winning right now or something?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
won their sixth straight yesterday.
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They served their purpose in beating the Rockies
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
that’s the truth.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I wonder how the current string of starting pitching adds up to past streaks. 6 games started with only 1 ER has to be fairly historic.
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yeah
he’s looked great. I’m happy because he’s always been one of my favorite pitchers.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
The Angels might just be the worst team in terms of the team or their beat writers putting our their lineups.
Just about every other team either puts out the lineups themselves on Twitter or has a beat writer or two that does it. For the Angels, their beat writers are practically invisible on Twitter, and the team doesn’t put out shit.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Day game?
Beckett going, could be a nine game lead. Even Kelly might have to agree they are dead, though I’m curious how Texas will do in August, but with that lead it may not matter.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Hows about Jim Edmonds as a bench bat target?
I know, he is super old. But he is also super cheap, pretty good, a vet so Torre would be cool with it, and would not cost much prospect wise.
if he was healthy
but he’s battling two sore achilles.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
he seems
to be ok with the role in MIL
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
And he can teach our young outfielders how to turn a routine catch into a web gem.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
Wasn't his thing
that he would always play shallow because he had suuuuuuuuuuch great range he could go back and get any ball? Thus lots of over the shoulder basket catches.
Yep. Anyone that hates on Jim Edmonds is just mad that they didn’t have Jim Edmonds.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this statement
Edmonds is my 2nd favorite player all-time, I’ve liked him for over a decade actually.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I was so happy when he went to the Cardinals because it meant being able to cheer for him without weird guilt feelings.
I was too young when he was an Angel to have any weird feelings about cheering for non-Dodgers players, but as I got older it was nice to have him on the Cardinals instead of the Angels. The funny thing is the Cardinals are my second favorite team because of Jim Edmonds.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Yeah, Edmonds is a bit of a hot dog, but he’s no Eric Byrnes
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Jim Edmunds may have been my favorite player
for a stretch, and when he played for the Padres I thought I’d never seen a more done player.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
That's A. Jones you're thinking of
Edmonds is legit. One of the best fielding CF’s (and offensive, actually) of all-time.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
nobody was better at jogging 80% of the way to a flyball then sprinting the last ten feet to make a diving catch than Andruw.
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I don’t know what to say to that except that I disagree 100%
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree 2/7
The other 5/7 of me is asleep.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In Jones’ first five seasons his worst defensive season was +27
In his next five his worst was +17
I can’t find anyone that came close to these numbers.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
The only player with more Total Zone runs saved than Andruw Jones ever is Brooks Robinson. Only Mark Belanger and Ozzie Smith are anywhere near him for that second spot.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Andruw glided to the ball
I’m left wondering if you every actually saw him play CF other then in ESPN highlights.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Never thought I would get this much flack for an Andruw Jones joke on a Dodgers site lol. Dang people settle down, dude was good. In fact, according to fangraphs he was underpaid every year except the one he played in LA. I used to have debates all the time about who was the better CF between A. Jones and Junior Griffey.
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Defensively that should have been an easy debate to win
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya, I still took Griffey because hey, I was a kid in the 90s, who didn’t hit in the cages with their hat on backwards.
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I’m not.
I mean, I was around and knew who he was, but I definitely wasn’t thinking critically about baseball for the first half of Jones’s career.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I think I actually saw Lilly throw 90mph yesterday!
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Rosenthal
Oswalt: Cards out, Dodgers making no progress. Phillies divided on whether to pick up all of that salary.
Olney
Astros working very, very hard to find acceptable Oswalt deal despite obstacles.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Kavula
Water, still wet. When will water’s reign of wet terror end?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW Silver
you ok? now that the matchup of the century is looking like it will remain a dream for now?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s disappointing for sure. But I’m hoping he will at least start one of the tames.
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
and in that game
the Dodgers will tame him. mwa ha ha.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they should hold him out until August 7. You know, just to be safe.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Billingsley should be up to ~30 innings after that night.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Astros want Happ & prospects. The talent is apparently agreed to, it’s just a matter of pulling the trigger I guess.
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Is Happ any good? He is talked about a lot, but he seems more like a James McDonald than a high ceiling prospect, basically a good mid-rotation guy if he reaches his potential.
To the Phils advantage
Happ has the major league success, at least superficially. That 12-4, 2.93 last season separates him from any type of McDonald comparison, at least in the ’we need a major league starter" sense.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
The problem is that due to that season, people were saying he’s as good as Price, Kershaw, and Latos. Which is uh, not the case at all.
Long leap from not being in the class you mentioned to "not good"
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Except, you can make that leap with Happ.
He profiles a lot more as a 4/5 instead of the 1/2 that the first class is.
Joe Saunders was just traded for Dan Haren.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
and Happ is younger than Saunders
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Was anyone saying Latos was as good as Price or Kershaw?
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I could see it. Basically the same age and numbers.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
if the Phillies get Oswalt
i will be extremely cross
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s their best talent left. No way the Phillies swing a major deal without trading Brown. No GM would be fool hardy enough to take anyone else.
The Phillies have no talent left.
It is necessary for Ed Wade to be destroyed.
Play on “Carthage delenda est.” Cato used to end all of his speeches with it.
I think it was Cato…the Elder…?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Definitely the Elder.
The Younger is the one who got his ass kicked by Ceaser
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
I was going off the top of my head. It’s been years since I’ve had to a) translate Latin and b) remember my Classicist learnings. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I was just going off the HBO series Rome :)
Which was the shit by the way.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s an Ed Wade/Ruben Amaro hookup. The trade could end up as anything from Dom Brown, Jarrod Cosart and Cole Hamels to J.A. Happ and Jose Contrares.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he won’t get dealt either.
I think the Phillies have to pass on Oswalt. They can’t afford to deal anymore young talent with their payroll going forward, b/c if anyone on their old team goes down in the next few years, they need to be able to replace guys with cheap fill ins.
Plus Oswalt doesn’t want to go there, and would definitely insist on his option to go to Philly.
I read that too about Oswalt rejecting a trade to Philly, but I have a hard time believing he’d turn down a trade that would put him behind Halladay, playing for that offense for a team that went to the World Series two years in a row.
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and a team willing to pay him 16mil to be a 36 year old.
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Turn down, no
Force them to guarantee his 2012 option – yes.
he’s demanding that from anyone though, so its a moot point.
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Yeah, but he’s been pretty clear that for St. Louis and other teams likely in the Midwest or West, he’d work with them to either defer the money or work something out. If he’s going to the East Coast he’s getting that money, he’s made that pretty clear.
gotcha
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the money
is a big thing. I think I read they have something like 126 mil for about 12 players.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Stark on Cody Ross
The Marlins have told teams they could deal Cody Ross in August if they fall out of contention, but they’d have to match up only with the team that wins the claim. (via mlbtr)
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The Rangers are really going for it. They are interested in Fielder. No doubt, they’d have to give up some crown jewels (M. Perez/Scheppers) for that to happen.
Not both of those guys, but at least one.
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
sheppers is a reliever
he cnt be the center piece
by matthewmafa on Jul 28, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If there was ever a year for Texas to go all in, this is it.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
ed_price
#Phillies call up top prospect Domonic Brown with Shane Victorino going on DL.
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
1. Mr Stallone, my question is this. Will you go and see Scott Pilgrim Vs The World on opening weekend if I go and see The Expendables? Bear in mind that I saw Rambo and Rocky Balboa opening day and loved them both.
Yours faithfully, Edgar Wright (age 36)
UK
p.s. neither of us have to see Eat, Pray, Love.
1. Edgar, I promise to see SCOTT PILGRIM VS THE WORLD only if you pull your spleen out through your nose with a tractor cable. Now, I admire the technology in SCOTT PILGRIM, I’m a supporter, I’m a fan of hard work and I believe this film is entitled to be a bona fide hit, but I truly believe if I were to grab the proverbial bag of bonbons and buttered popcorn and plop my carcass dead center preparing to enjoy the movie in all its glory, the ghosts of Charles Bronson and John Wayne would rise from their graves and snap me to death with oil soaked rat tail towels. So needless to say, I wish him well, but I gotta stay true to my roots so I’ll be watching EAT PRAY LOVE.
4. Glen, Don’t you think it’s important when putting together a team that each are of one mind and one goal, not an iconoclastic contrarian who purposely finds fault in everything until finally you realize that some people exist on certain planes and these planes shall never meet. I like Claude, and Claude likes himself, so that makes it unanimous. He has his agenda, which works for him, but a movie like THE EXPENDABLES is a very grueling ordeal. One must be a team player for the goals to be achieved. So sometimes things don’t work out, but I find it’s all for the best. If there’s a sequel to THE EXPENDABLES, I would reach out to the men you mentioned and several others that may be new on the scene, as long as they’re in love with the premise, not the salary.
1) WTF?
2) When posting quotes, PLEASE POST LINKS TO THE SOURCE
Thanks.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought i saw him
in the dugout yesterday.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
considering the 2011 starting rotation right now consists of Clayton Kershaw, Chad Billingsley, and, and…
Padilla has been great since the DL and Kuroda has been the best pitcher on the team at times this year so I think we have four good pitchers and I’m excited that Paul is getting a chance in left field. . I think the biggest needs are a fifth dependable stater and a power bat to come off the bench and play occasional OF.
Neither Padilla nor Kuroda are signed past 2010. My point about the 2011 rotation still stands.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the bigger question is if the Dodgers finally see Bills as a veteran pitcher, so they would allow themselves to fill the last spot with a younger player in the organization like Ely or McDonald.
he was talking
about next year. Padilla is on a one-year deal, and Kuroda is a free agent next year.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry I miss understood. I would like to see Kuroda resigned though.
by Dalton Paull on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I could see Kuroda coming back. He’s old so it might suppress his value on the market.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
He really, really wants to stay in LA.
However it’s most likely the last big-money contract he’ll sign, so if the money isn’t comparable he’ll have to move on.
He really, really wants to stay in LA.
What are you basing this on? Just curious
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
LA Taco has a source familiar with the club’s thinking.
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I’d rather give Padilla two years than Kuroda. And I think both of them have earned the right to demand multiyear deals. The only hurdle being if people still hate Padilla’s “attitude problem” or if they think Kuroda is about to start pitching like a 36 year old.
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And didn’t have a long, long history of being bad.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a long history of being mediocre.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
or shoot himself in the friggin leg.
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Heh
Padillia’s earned a rep with his past wacky behavior.
He seems happy now, but he is still a wild card
Maybe he is on exceptional behavior now in part because it is a contract year?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Wolf was never considered to be a headcase or a bad clubhouse presence. Quite the opposite. He was considered to be an innings eater who would provide quality starts and is only 31(ish?).
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32, injury prone, shitty peripherals.
That was a silly deal for MIL and I think some team would do the same for Padilla if he keeps pitching like he has been.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Padilla has been awesome since he came back, but we’re valuing 41 innings with a .190 BABIP over a life time of being Vicente Padilla.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
We’re valuing a mid 90s sinker ball with a stupid ass curveball.
If you’re the A’s and you give 10 million to a rehabbing Ben Sheets. Its not too much to ask to plunk down 2 years/18 million for Padilla.
This is Vicente Padilla, a man that got DFAed less than a year ago.
I guess I can’t expand my case beyond he is Vicente Padilla so I’ll stop. But really, he’s Vicente Padilla.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
He got DFAed because he was an asshole, not because he couldn’t pitch. It happens. I mean, he’s really a fundamentally different pitcher with the Dodgers.
A lower H/9, great BB/9, and an over 8.0 K/9 rate. Because he’s still viewed as crazy, his value is going to be depressed. If you’re looking for a solid starter, I wouldn’t look away from Padilla.
When he was DFAed his ERA was higher than his strike out rate.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Assholes don’t get DFA’d if they can still pitch. His last 2.5 years in Texas were bad.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree. While he has pitched well, I still see the market for him being depressed in the offseason because of his various black marks on his record.
I wonder if Kuroda or Padilla have been approached about extensions.
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correct on both counts.
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Looking back
at PECOTA pre-season predictions on the NL West standings.
1. Arizona 87-75
2. Colorado 86-76
3. Dodgers 83-79
4. Giants 82-80
5. Padres 71-91
It’s so neat that the current order is the complete opposite of what they predicted.
in their defense, they had the Dodgers pegged!
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Pecota went to hell in a hand
basket when Nate left. From what I understand he did it all with excel and not a database. I found that unbelievable so I don’t believe it.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I am wholeheartedly unenthused.
WEDNESDAY, 12:43pm: The Dodgers are making the strongest push for Podsednik, tweets Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle, but the Giants remain involved.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions
I’d rather have Tyler Durden on my team than Lisa Durgen
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True, but can she play left field?
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i have no doubts in her ball catching abilities.
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by G.Scott on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s Hank Schulman’s ultimate revenge on Dylan Hernandez!
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
.352 OBP and 30 steals. Plus, should Manny come back he’d slide right to the bench.
His contract is cheap.
It's the Royals.
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I could live with him
assuming we don’t trade something stupid for him. He won’t be great and he won’t be horrible.
World Series rings & Stolen Bases = Gamer/Grinder/Ned Guy
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Posdenik =
better than Injured Reed Johnson and Terrible Garrett Anderson, no? As a platoon-er he would be a useful pickup imho.
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Until I hear what we would be sending back
thats a bit silly. You are assuming we will be sending someone we will miss.
Saturday at 3pm on MLB Network
MLB Network will air MLB Network Countdown: The 40 Most Memorable Trades in MLB History, an hour-long show recapping the most influential trades that led to Hall of Fame careers, pennants, World Series titles and other significant franchise moments. Narrated by Vasgersian, the countdown includes: John Smoltz being traded by the Detroit Tigers to the Atlanta Braves in 1987, the New York Mets trading Hall of Famer Tom Seaver to the Cincinnati Reds in 1977, the Texas Rangers trading Alex Rodriguez to the New York Yankees for Alfonso Soriano in 2004, Hall of Famer Nellie Fox’s trade to the Chicago White Sox from the Philadelphia Athletics in 1949, and the Cincinnati Reds trading Hall of Famer and pitching great Christy Mathewson to the New York Giants in 1900.
When was Pedro traded at the trade deadline?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
NVM
I misread. I thought it was trade deadline only. Damn
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
The description above doesn’t indicate it is limited to the trade deadline.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
If they include Santana for Blake…recency error.
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wouldn't be surprised
he was the number one in the Prime 9: Most Lopsided Trades.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't Ruth, more "sold" than he was traded?
I was pretty young back then and can’t remember all the details. :)
Bargain basement only for position players
The handwriting is on the wall. We have only one real trade in us, and thats probably good.
Thin the herd in the lower levels of our farm only slightly. I’d like to think the home team knows its players in the farm. The meat needs to stay unless its an impact arm IMO.
There are so many replacement level players available it would be a disgrace to give up more than one legitimate kid for anything other than an arm. We need Ely and McDonald as the #6 and #7 SPs, not #5. Lilly, Myers, Oswalt types. A cheap Maholm deal maybe.
I don’t get the talk of adding another infielder or outfielder. Manny will be back. Paul can play and field…he benefits from the experience and LAD gets a peek at next year with him.
The pain is the budget constraints in a market where taking on salary dictates terms.
Pods would cost nothing. Cody Ross would cost something. Forget Dunn or Reynolds. I bet LAD doesn’t even spend a minute on that type of talk. My guess is Ned is working on the Rubix cube to find the deal that fits with the payroll colors and still gets DeJean/Logan White blessing. He’ll probably wait until the deadline to see what plops in his lap.
Manny needs to go DH somewhere.
Why should he be expected to be more durable in the field for the remainder of this season than he has been so far?
The Dodgers are screwed regarding their ability to spend now, or project spending next season and farther into the future until the ownership dispute is settled.
This unknown is a hinder and is sucking the vitality out of the organization.
Fuck, what’s the Angel’s payroll today?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Angels payroll up to around $106 mil with added Haren $1.8mil
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/salaries/_/name/laa/los-angeles-angels
We will not trade Manny. His contract is a mess. He’s on the DL.
Lets hope he comes back and mashes for the stretch run.
He can DH next year. IMO
I picked up Manny in fantasy for that same hope. I know no one cares about my fantasy team, but I had Dejesus, Victorino, Ordonez, Street and Choo recently plagued with injuries. Of course, Choo comes back from the wrist injury and just starts mashing the ball. How in the world does he do it. I love me some Shin Soo Choo!
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
# Arizona GM Jerry DiPoto just wants someone to pick up part of the $$. "They’ll give him to you for nothing,‘’ said one exec. #trades 10 minutes ago via web
Qualls has an 8.51 ERA & $1.6M left on his contract this year. The Diamondbacks don’t expect a decent player in return. #trades
’
http://twitter.com/jcrasnick
I don’t like Qualls pitching, but this is such a buy low deal that it would be worth it. The D’backs will even kick in some money to make the trade happen.
but you still have to deal with the fact that he’s Chad Qualls.
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Also from Crasnick
When Roy Oswalt said he would "restructure’’ option year, he meant he would be willing to defer some money in 2012. The Phillies probably won’t pick up the option in advance and don’t do deferred money. Those are significant obstacles.
Defer. Yeah, I’ve heard that word before.
Probably less than even money. I think it’s a damn near guarantee. If Philly won’t pick up his option, and the Astros won’t send him to STL and they still want a MLB position player from us…unless the Yankees get involved again I don’t see them making a move.
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Houston screwed the pooch on this one. They basically let the D’backs control the market with their horrible Haren trade and now everyone is waiting for the Astros to blink on crappy players.
I think you are right on this.
I also expect to Blue Jays to blink on Downs. The asking price is unrealistic.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I would actually be OK with that, too. He has been insanely unlucky this year (.436 BABIP despite normal LD%), and was actually good the last two years.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I can see the Mets getting Qualls
rumor is they’re looking for overpaid, underperforming pitchers that they wouldn’t have to give up much to get.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Take my wife. Please!
Chad Qualls 2010 OPS against
vs LH 1.045
VS rh .906
Does anyone know
Specifically, why Qualls sucks so badly this year? He wasn’t always this bad…
More walks (some intentional), an uptick in homers, and really, really, bad luck
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
his HR/FB% is about in line with his career % save for his good 2008 year. But ya, going from a .299 BABIP to a .436 will hurt any pitcher.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2170&position=P
fangraphs shows his fastball is getting beat up this year, but I can’t find velocity statistics. More likely, he is walking more guys as Eric says and getting behind in counts and having to throw a fastball when the hitter expects it.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I love teams
who trade for a FA they could have simply signed. Nothing says failure to me more then that. Oh, you mean Adam Dunn can hit, lets trade for him.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
could not agree more
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
In this 2010 market, a cost controlled potential star is infinitely more valuable. This also smells of Zambrano-Kasmir. Tripon, you jest?
He's not going to get the fan base all excited that's for sure
But as I said above he’d be a hell of a lot better than having GA start on occasion (or even be on the team). Not sure why everyone is so down on him…
That said I wouldn’t give up more than a C+ prospect for him.
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Pods wouldn’t be bad to have, but we still really kinda need a RH complement to him. If he replaces GA, then great, but if he sends X-man back to AAA then I don’t see the point.
True, as a lefty he may not solve that problem as much as I'd like
Though he seems to hit lefties decently looking at the splits (batting over 300 but obviously lower OPS). Okay Cody Ross + Podsednik it is then! ;-)
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It won’t be a big problem if Manny can come back in a couple of weeks, but I’d still like a RH bat, like Russ Mitchell paired with him until either Manny or Reed get back.
I'm down with giving Russ Mitchell a chance
though I worry he may just be another (if much younger) Mitch Jones… But deserves a shot. Probably better defensively than Lindsey anyway.
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i'm for Mitchell
getting a shot as well.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
liked your comment above re: injured Johnson and Anderson.
And I agree, Pods is better than one guy who is unable to play and the other who’s ability to perform has passed him by.
Pods would just be another band aid.
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Yah, unfortunately I don't see much more than band aids available...
but if it’s someone who can at least spark the offense a bit, that helps.
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I think it’ll be exciting to have a legit bench SB threat again. Only three times in my life (1986- ) have I had fun watching an individual player: Piazza as a Dodger all the time, Manny 2008, and Dave Roberts anytime he was standing on first base.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
forgot about him.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Beltre's MVP caliber season was great, he was my favorite player at the time though
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I used to be big on 3rd baseman
so when he was hitting he was my favorite by default. Then he left :(.
i really dont know how I pick favorite players
I loved Mondesi when I was young because of RAUUUUUL, then I liked Beltre before he broke out big time, and then I moved on to become a big Loney fan, as I’m getting older I’m realizing the favorite player thing really doesnt matter much anymore, I wouldnt be heart broken if Loney was dealt in a trade that bettered the club
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
As much as I like him, I'd be fine with that
But if it’s Miller, Webster, Rubby, Pimental, Sands (for some reason I can just see this happening, lol), Eovaldi, etc… I will be pissed.
If it’s a failed prospect or a non-prospect, then great.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
what if
he brings Grienke with him?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
If that happens the Royals can have any prospect they like not named Garcia, hopefully Sands, and Jansen
any of em.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
they can have those guys too
It’s Zach fucking Greinke.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
There are plenty of other players the Royals can take
Screw them taking both of Garcia and Sands. One of them has to stay. Plus there’s no way we should trade Jansen right now, I think he’s too important to the bullpen.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Who cares about Greinke
What about Granick?
true
but then again, you never see them photographed together.
(hmmmmm)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on the Dodgers aren't trading Miller, Webster or Jerry Sands for 2 months of
Pods. You’re losing your mind ;-)
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I don't know how many times I have to say that thing is long gone ;)
Ned has just made me trade-scared, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Is your brain "abby normal" ?
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If we are talking hatable
I think Eric gets the final ruling.
by TurnItDown on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They treat him like he’s Satan after he was a damn good pitcher for eight years. More athletes should call that crap out.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Why should they? How does Lackey lashing out advance his interests?
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It doesn’t, but it might provide someone with a moment of self reflection that they’re a douche bag.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
So, naturally, they booed him again Tuesday, Lackey making his first career road start against the Angels and doing so in a jersey that read "Boston" across the chest.
"Satan" would have been more warmly embraced.
And after beating the Angels, 4-2, Lackey booed right back. "The scoreboard talks the loudest," he said.
Like that one, Angels fans? How about this one, when Lackey was asked if the amount of booing surprised him: "Yeah, a little bit. It won’t be forgotten."
That really doesn’t sound like much to me.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats it?
THAT makes him a douchebag? Thats nothing dude. He is entitled to say that much after getting booed.
lackey just looks hatable
total mouthbreather
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
on the television most of the fans behind the Red Sox dugout (Angels fans) were standing and clapping for him when he got pulled from the game. I can’t imagine a Red Sox player could ask for more than that, as far as a warm reception.
seriously
the guy brought Anaheim a WS title and gets booed, even though the Angels made little to no effort to sign him. Angel fans are the douchebags for booing him in my mind
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Oswalt says he wants ample time to think about trade.
He doesn’t want something sprung on him at the last moment.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions
I’ve had about enough of his opinions on the trade. We get it, you have a no trade clause, BFD.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
His opinion on the trade is the only one that matters.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It is not the only one that matters. Houston’s opinion matters as does the team acquiring him. He gets input and has to sign off on the trade, but so do the actual clubs.
He asked for the trade and then comes out asking for more money (the option) and to not have it “sprung” on him. He’s acting like a diva.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I said something similar to this yesterday. It’s maddening to see a guy demand a trade after 6 weeks of the season, then say he will only accept the trade to teams X and Y and only if A, B, C and maybe D are part of the bargain.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Kemp's Swing
I am basing this just on my own observation, but it really looks like Matt has opened up his front foot more this year. Last year I felt he was closed in his stance more, so he was waiting on pitches and driving them to right a lot more. I know he still goes opposite field, but the strikeout to Garland last night seemed like a prime example of where his front foot is landing still open, so he can’t extend his arms to get that tailing curve on the outside corner.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 28, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
i noticed that too
Lyons actually mentioned his foot used to go towards the pitcher on his swing, but now it’s more towards the first-base dugout.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Kemp was able to make the adjustments needed for the outside pitch for a few games before the AS break.
He will keep getting the treatment on the outside of the plate until he shows he can handle it again.
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Per Cot’s Contracts, he can void that option with 525 PA. He has 430 PA right now.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Wanna bet?
You were so sure GA would get roughly that amount last week, and now you don’t think Podsednik would?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t separate jaded Tripon with regular Tripon right now, but I will say no way to that
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Possible option on Scotty Pods, a bunch of OFs moving up to the system, Paul being 25 and likely at best a platoon player.
In his trades, Ned doesn’t bother to let service time be a factor. When he traded for Sherrill, he didn’t care that he controlled his rights until 2011. He just wanted Sherrill. The same thing with Manny and Casey Blake.
I don’t think Colletti is going to let 4 or 5 years of Paul get him in the way of getting Scotty Pods.
if Paul had a big upside, yes.
Dude has DeWitt power
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t see Paul being involved. If Hu were healthy, I would think he would be a prime target to go.
PTBNL
Couldn’t they still take him when he gets back from the DL, or in the offseason a la Tony Abreu.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Didn't we just get rid of Juan Pierre last off-season?
Why would we want another one starting next season?
Pods is generally better at getting on base, has a little more power, and is actually a decent outfielder (at least in LF). Plus he’s not costing $9 mil/season.
Its still the same issue in our lineup though
We don’t get much power from 1B or 3B like most clubs, so unless the Beard or Goofy Loney are going somewhere, we need to get some power production from LF. The only other option would be getting a power hitting 2B and they don’t grow on trees.
Nolander
Thanks for the warning about Ubuntu. I have a spare hard drive lying around, so I think I will just install it on that and play with it for a while to see if it is solid enough or has too many kinks.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
Yeh I would try just dual booting for a bit
and seeing if it works. It can be a breeze or it can make your life hell.
Agreed. Especially if I have peripheral problems and can’t get the remote to work right for a while. My wife would be annoyed
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 28, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
looks like the Domonic Brown era is about to begin in Philly as Victorino goes on the DL.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
I wouldn't mind getting Cody Ross
But he’d barely be a better option than Scotty Pods right now. I suppose it would just be a stopgap till Manny gets back and then he will go on the bench, but Idk.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
From Bob Dutton of Royals Report
Hearing nothing is imminent on #Royals trading OF Scott Podsednik to Dodgers or Giants but talks are ongoing.
Rosenfail late to the party again
Source: #Dodgers “in conversation” with #Royals on Pods. Team also talking about other OFers. Another source says #Giants still in.
Great, a bidding war with the Giants for Podsednik.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL.
jaysonst:
Not a chance. Heard from other clubs that LA won’t talk about Gordon. @Youth_Movement Dee Gordon for Podsednik? #trades
Sure, Dodgers #1 ranked prospect for Pods. that fan is clueless.
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Disappointed that the guy the Dodgers are placing off limits is Gordon
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Prediction:
Scott Posednik to the Dodgers for Javy Guerra or Jon Link.
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a hearty lol
if we use parts we got from Pierre to spin off to getting Pods.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be kind of amusing, I'll admit...
(I would take John Ely + Posednik > Pierre though…)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
i'll see your lol
and raise you a rofl
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I am really pulling for this deal, because I have to believe that it would signal the end of GA, since Pods can really only play LF, maybe CF in a pinch. We would have to keep Paul.
Paul + Johnson + Pods > Paul + Johnson + Anderson
Pods can run, field, and hit, Anderson?
If such a deal does come to pass, Johnson will need to visit the DL,
in order to buy more bench time for Anderson
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
if he is, it might require another 15 day extension
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 28, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Question
how big of a surprise was the Manny deal to you guys?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Very. No reason to see it coming, and I think they announced Manny was going somewhere not here at like 12:55.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Florida was the big rumor at the time. That was a tremendously shocking day.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
that day
and almost every day after it, up until that horrible night, were some of the best days ever. I went to more Dodger games in that stretch then any one stretch ever, and it seemed like Manny homered in all of them.
yes that was unbelievable
making that run in to the playoffs and going on to beat the cubs was definitely the most fun I’ve ever had as a Dodger fan
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Hitting a jackpot on a slot machine as you walked by; that type of surprised.
I didn’t even know we were playing that game.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just trying to ascertain
how much of all this is red herring surprise.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
huge
I remember hearing rumblings that he was gonna be traded somewhere, and then I turn on my computer, and frontpage news, “Manny to LA”. I did a double take.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I ran, not walked
to ticketmaster to get tickets for the next homegame
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I was gonna go the game where he hit his first Dodger home run
but my older brother flaked on me.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
pretty sure he was 0-fer
in the game I went to.. or he was like 1-3 with a single
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Here it is as it happened from Dodger Thoughts. July 31st, 2008.
http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.com/archives/1077815.html#comments
wow
most of those commenters really weren’t too excited about giving up Laroche. Ohhh hindsight…
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t agree with that characterization at all. In fact, I think most commenters are in line with Eric’s opinion….
671. Eric Stephen
My initial reaction:
1) I’m heartbroken to see LaRoche go
2) I absolutely love Manny Ramirez, quirkiness and all
3) At least in giving up LaRoche, it was for one of the best players in MLB
4) If Wilson is involved, and Ethier is gone, I don’t like it.
…..most commenters seem to be worried that another shoe was about to drop and it would be announced that Ethier had been traded, too.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Scrolled through the DT thread from the time.
12:50: Bay to Tampa for Brignac and Neimann
1:22: Bay to the Dodgers (assumed Ethier was gone)
1:24: Manny to the Dodgers, Bay to Boston
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
632. ImprobableImpossible
We had two excellent young third basemen.
They were both ready or just about ready for their shot.
One of them was bound to be moved.
The writing has been on the wall for at least four months that LaRoche would be the one to go.
Getting Manny for two months out of that scenario isn’t too bad.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I do think if we gave
Paul the gig along with Hoffman they would do what Pod can do. I think people are being hasty in writing Paul off, lot of pressure replacing Manny.
Plus the Aussie might do what Pod does. He’s Pod for god’s sake. He and Carrol combined couldn’t hit a home run if you added their flyballs together.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
even if that's true
doesn’t make sense to mortgage their development for no reason
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
don't worry guys...
pujols, prado, mauer, braun, longora, scott downs and josh johnson are all coming to the dodgers within the next few days for 1 mil each.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
should post that on mlbtr
would fit right in..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
hahaha
no no, they’re just going to give them to us :)
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Deserve what. We had similar options with Santana and Bell. We traded them away. We have this team today because we ‘deserve’ it. Its not as if the team was gutted by injuries. This is the team that the front office envisioned when assembling it.
Well he's right
it is the strangest FO strategy to purge your minor leagues of every switch hitter. Only Travon is left, but for how long? I actually hope they trade him just so I can make this same sick joke next year.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Who would be playing LF right now had Santana or Bell not been traded? Not every move relates back to Carlos Santana and/or Josh Bell
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I beg to differ
because the trade chips that Carlos/Bell would have offered would have meant you could have had anybody you possibly want to play LF or in the rotation.
Lee for Santana – Done
Bell / Parts for LF – Done
The limited future of this franchise for making impact deals certainly does come back to Ned selling the kids cheaply.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Dammit
I was getting prepared to be banned not agreed with. The closer the trade deadline is the more irritated I’m getting, and I find myself becoming Triponed.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Silverwidow
took a vacation from work to enjoy the draft, I should take one from TBLA and come back next week after I know who I won’t be writing about anymore.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Or you might explode because you don’t have any outlets for said rage/snark.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
INEXCUSABLE
Might I recommend kickboxing?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Ya, but if he did that the other people get to punch back
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call. Cats would be terrible at kickboxing
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
or course not
he should hug his cats. Snugging a kitty will make you feel better! It’s science.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
What LF would they have traded Bell for? And when? Now, with Manny out? He had a wOBA of .332 in AAA this season.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah Mike
ya know how GM"s across the nation are looking at wOBA as the definitive word on a prospects worth.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I WAS JOKING!!!!!!!
i mean geez man, this whole line of thinking was snark and sarcasm, calm the fuck down.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If I knew how to put in a photo
I would put in a photo of Clint Eastwood from Unforgiven with a shotgun
and the caption would be “Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.”
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
2:37pm: The Dodgers are considering a second outfielder, along with Podsednik, according to Rosenthal on Twitter.
does that mean both of them? or one of the other?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
the second outfielder is Ryan Braun. No, not that Ryan Braun, I mean Ryan Braun.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Pineiro scratched
Scot Shields (!!!) starting for the Angels.
Septmber 28, 2003 was his last start. 399 straight relief appearances
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the great rubber arms of the 21st century
but the rubber is now cracked and worn.
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Shouldn't links
accompany comments like this?
by meercatjohn on Jul 28, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Getting Podsednik is totally worth it just for this story that probably isn’t true:
So, a buddy of a buddy, etc. etc. was at a high-end bar in Chicago, when Podsednik walks in with an unbelievably hot girl on his arm. (Ed. Note: We’re guessing it’s Podsednik paramour Lisa Dergan.) He makes a beeline for the bar, and she heads to the ladies room. He orders a drink for her, and three bottles of Bud Lite. He chugs, and I mean, chugs, the three bottles of beer before his woman returns. Then he looks around, sees his woman isn’t back, and order three more bottles of Bud Lite, and chugs the crap out of those as well. Finally, and just before his woman gets back, he orders a high end microbrew, picks that up with his woman’s apple-tini or some such horseshit, and goes to sit down with her. The rest of the night he just sips at that microbrew. I need to do this more often.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
On another matter
Some think Victorino going down dominos into Brown in CF and Werth indispensable…and no Oswalt in Philly.
I hope that Gordon, as #1 LAD prospect, is the centerpiece of a Houston deal. I am not sold on Gordon and would rather keep the extra pitcher or Sands that would accompany any such deal. McDonald and/or Ely could be the MLB ready at minimum salary part too.
On Pods…Paul has to be really close to even or maybe one win share less…tho not a PVL….and Reed Johnson and eventually Manny negate the need other than a salary dump of Pods for nada.
I really hope that Ned does not trade for Oswalt. I would rather sign Kuroda for less next year then dump prospects and a boatload of cash for Oswalt
He’s still a good pitcher. If we can get him for a decent price, him, Kershaw, and Bills is a nice start next year. You have to remember we have only 2 guys under K for next year, and I don’t see any young guys stepping in the rotation next year (I think we all know J Mac, Elbert, and Haeger aren’t in the rotation next year). Him at 16 is better than some scrub at 9 or 10.
We should be talking with Kuroda about next year no matter what. He’s good, effective and hopefully happy and familiar with LA and the team.
We need five starters before we get to JMac, Elbert or the pile of rejects we consider 5th starters every year.
Might take a new owner tho.
We would also need to buy down Oswalt to $10 mil or less per year if we give up the goods just because of the injury risk and all. Insurance on that back?
I think StL has serious payroll concerns and may just be trying hard to somehow squeeze in Oswalt. Some $85 mil to 11 guys next year with new deal for Pujols on the docket. Maybe Ned’s doing the takeaway close or playing poker with Houston. Good for him.
Every team (save 1 or 2) regardless of the owner has shitty pitchers as the 5th starter.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
true story. Don’t 5th starters tend to only get like 20-25 starts compared to the #1/2 guys getting 30-32 anyway? I could be overexaggerating, and I’m sure it depends on that season’s schedule opportunities.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Typically most teams don’t get 30 starts out of their top 4, so the “5th starter” group can end up starting 40-50 games.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, the average team goes through 10 starters in a year. It’s why you don’t start with a really terrible guy as your fifth starter, because you’re gonna end up using five guys worse than him.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Never thought of it that way
Then you could be the Rays where the guy who is not in the rotation might be the best pitcher on a number of rotations.
And that’s why I support starting with the proven veteran in the rotation instead of the guy with options. It’s a huge advantage to be able to carry seven or eight big league ready starters.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Ned ever do extensions in the middle of the season? Why not just work something out with Kuroda now? I know, not going to happen.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 28, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
SO GOOD
I didn’t watch the game last night. You’re welcome.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
so
are you gonna keep the streak up?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like I have to, huh?
Sad, because I like watching Chad pitch. ./creepy
I will say I am surprised how well our pitching has been doing with a dearth of Ks. I’m not complaining though. Keep on keeping on.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
not creepy
I like watching Billz pitch too.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling we’re not watching for the same reasons. :D
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Maddz on Billz butt
“it’s like a lava lamp”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent. At this pace, the Dodgers will win the World Series when you move to TN.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It only works for Billz
sadly
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
also
if they win the WS in mid-August, I will be delighted that Selig has fixed his postseason timing issues!
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
is there a commissioner equivalent to the
Michael Scott “Flagrant Foul, game over” move?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Derrek Lee rejected a trade to the Angels
I bet it was for Joe Saunders.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
ESPN
Entertainment and Sports News Network
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/derrek-lee-will-remain-with-cubs.html also
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by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Just read that on MLBTR, though they didn’t say what the trade was and I was kidding about Saunders.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
This guy
thinks the trade was to the Dodgers
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Cubs general manager Jim Hendry confirmed to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com that Derrek Lee will not accept a trade.
According to Levine, the Rangers and Angels have made offers for Lee over the past 10 days, however Lee wants to remain with the Cubs for the remainder of the season. Lee, 34, is in the final year of a five-year contract. Jul. 28 – 2:00 pm et
Source: ESPNChicago.com
I'll go with one of the patented recruiting excuses
Scared to compete
Doesn’t care about winning
Didn’t have the grades
Distance was a factor
Mom was never sold
Off topic random question to help out a friend
thought some of you would know. What are the most iconic, over-the-top videos from the Bling hip hop era. White suits, jacuzzis, cars all that… ?
Off the top of my head
anything by P.Diddy — especially Sky’s the Limit
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Everytime I come around yo city BLING BLING
pinky ring cos about 50 BLING BLING
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I don't care if those are the actual lyrics btw
that’s what I like to sing anyway
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I loved “Sky’s the Limit”
That can’t count, since they use children in the place of the rappers.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe it includes
white suits, jacuzzis, and cars. :D
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
oh my god
I forgot about that
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
All of No Limit records was over the top.
And shitty rappers
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
We used to play make say ugh on the stereo and mute the tv while Chick was doing his open for laker games. it looked like he was rapping. Hilarious.
@soyboquense
Actually
if you play rap over muted cartoons, it’s INSANE. helps if you’re tired/inebriated.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Way of Life
Baby and Lil Wayne featuring TQ
I'm hearing
Naz and P. Diddy “Hate Me Now” would be a strong contender
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 28, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever Notorious BIG video that is where they are on a yacht and he ends up driving a Bentley or something from the back seat with his cane. I think it was Hypnotize
@soyboquense
Can’t count it. It’s satire mocking that type of shit.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
But the Bluff Daddy is so epic
Plus the Tiger Woods stuff is way funnier like 12 years later.
I feel like some of the old puff daddy stuff might fit the bill
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Jeff Fletcher
Dodgers not out of Oswalt derby, but talks are complicated because of money. They have other starters on the radar. #astros
Say what you want about the merits of Oswalt, it’s just disappointing that payroll dictates so much for a team in friggin Los Angeles. Joke.
Damn Shame
No kidding. A $115mil payroll for this team with this attendance, parking, playoff history the last 2 years and the possibility of a lucrative TV network in 3 years…wouldn’t be asking too much.
Crikey, the TV network possibilty alone…keep Ethier, Kemp, Billz, Brox, Kershaw… and push to win each of the next few years…the fans would love the team and a winner…a layup if we had a normal multi-millionairre owner with a long-term horizon…
sorry, nevermind…
Obviously Selig thought we were the Marlins’ fans, and don’t care about baseball just because we have good weather.
And the Dodgers’ television numbers would support just that conclusion.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Very. Worse then the Rays in terms of total numbers, and worse then just about anyone in terms of rating share.
its surprising to me that San Diego and Arizona beat us in Ratings
yet any game we play in Chase or Petco is like a home game for us..does it have to do with the networking contract at all, or just the good weather in LA keeping people away from the tube?
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Isn’t ratings share of the population?
LA area has like 15 million people in it.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
that would make a lot more sense
also considering there are so many people in this city that didnt grow up here
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Unless I misread Josie's numbers
in the link I put below, Dodgers pull poorly in both “share” (percentage of the population watching TV) and total viewers.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So confusing
Because I know so many people who watch almost every game, and if I take the boy for a walk between 7-9p with the radio to listen to the game, I always see baseball on in people’s living rooms. Yes, I am nosy and I look to see what people watch.
@soyboquense
Of course
but only people in San Pedro watch baseball? I have always been skeptical of TV ratings anyways. I guess today they can track it through my Cable box, but I leave it on all the time, so it is not accurate. And how did they get ratings before everyone had some sort of box they watched through?
@soyboquense
Carl Everett never saw any dinosaurs either
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Nielsen television ratings are gathered in one of two ways:
Viewer “diaries”, in which a target audience self-records its viewing or listening habits. By targeting various demographics, the assembled statistical models provide a rendering of the audiences of any given show, network, and programming hour.
A more technologically sophisticated system uses Set Meters, which are small devices connected to televisions in selected homes. These devices gather the viewing habits of the home and transmit the information nightly to Nielsen through a “Home Unit” connected to a phone line. The technology-based home unit system is meant to allow market researchers to study television viewing habits on a minute to minute basis, seeing the exact moment viewers change channels or turn off their TV. In addition to set meters, individual viewer reporting devices, such as people meters, have allowed the company to separate household viewing information into various demographic groups, but so far Nielsen has refused to change its distribution of data of ethnic groups into subgroups, which could give more targeted information to networks and advertisers.
Changing systems of viewing have impacted Nielsen’s methods of market research. In 2005, Nielsen began measuring the usage of digital video recordings such as TiVo. Initial results indicate that time-shifted viewing will have a significant impact on television ratings. The networks are not yet figuring these new results into their ad rates at the resistance of advertisers.1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings#Measuring_ratings
it’s done by sampling, Neilsen tracks various people that create a poll and then extrapolate based on DMA.
You work for Nielsen or something?
Bottom line, I think ratings are all bullshit. I am not defending that millions of people watch it, but it seems very hard to track accurately. I would like to see Penn and Teller uncover this.
@soyboquense
They should hire Mythbusters to see what Nielsen would look like burning in Thermite.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I hate Nielsen. I don’t think it’s all that accurate. But we’re not looking at the total accuracy here, we’re comparing ourselves to other cities.. and since all the polling is done by the same company, even if it’s inaccurate, it’s probably accurate when compared to anyone else in the same poll.
Since they got rid of the diaries, it’s been a lot more accurate (supposedly) but there is still a long way to go.
Statistically speaking, if our poll inaccurately measures us as lower than we are, idn’t it entirely feasible that it rates some others as higher than they actually are?
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
It could be accurate if they used cable, dish boxes
but I leave the box on and turn off the TV as I am sure many other people do. Then Univision gets extra viewers because that is what I left it on while I am at work all day? oh well I drop it.
@soyboquense
it’s been awhile but I’m pretty sure your local cable company uses this info to sell their ads, some of which invariably end up on Dodgers games. They tend to very “local”
Wouldn’t a company look at both? I’d want to know (a) how many people am I reaching, and (b) could I reach more people — a higher percentage of the audience — by advertising elsewhere?
Taco’s link shows the Dodgers 10th in total households and roughly even with three more (Seattle, Atlanta, SF).
So: because the Dodgers are in such a large market, their piss-poor share numbers — among the worst in baseball — still put them at about average in total viewers.
Point being, despite being in a “large market,” the Dodgers don’t have the TV pull of other “large market” teams.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Spice channel has a 16 percent share in LA because cable boxes are left on all day.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
no idea
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
ahh
the days of being 13 and trying to make out scrambled boobies. then the internet comes along.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my favorite quotes
“Are you lonely?”
“Not since the internet”.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
That channel still exists?
I remember when I was like 12 that channel was on the standard cable package but it was all scrambled, lol. I thought that channel just died off.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I do the same
But my box shuts off after about 2 hours of no activity.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I recently got polled by telephone
I was asked my opinions about El Camino College.
The poll took half an hour. By the time it was done, I had a very low opinion of El Camino College. I mean, seriously — sure, I’ll take your poll, but thirty minutes is way too much.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
My family was a Nielson family for 2 years
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 28, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
One observable difference I've noticed
since moving to NYC several months ago, is that every single bar, pub, restaurant, lounge or club has the game on several TV’s if the Yankees are playing. Often times in LA you have to ask them to put the Dodgers game on if you’re not in a sports bar.
haha I just looked at the link
at first I passed over it thinking it would be a picture of a cat getting punched LOL
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
yes it's a percentage
so it’s correcting for size. The Dodgers do OK for total viewing population (although about 1/3 of the leading Yankees) but their share is much lower then other large DMAs (Media market size).
The LA DMA is about 5.5m households or so, NY is the largest at around 7.5m households.
in terms of total viewing population, do you have a link for that?
I could only find RSN
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
ah thanks, but I'm reading the top two as radio broadcast
and the bottom one as RSN television rating, is there a separate “total viewing population rating”
maybe I’m just reading it all wrong though..
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I just read what Josie posted on the other thread that Humma posted
puts it in to perspective, at least for me
NESN Red Sox 9.46/228,000
YES Yankees 4.66/346,000
CSNBA Giants 3.27/81,000
SportsNet NY Mets 2.69/200,000
CSN Chi White Sox 2.28/80,000
FS PT Dodgers 2.15/122,000
FS West Angels 1.22/69,000
with the number on the left being the rating, and the number on the right being the number of households the broadcast reaches, that seems to make more sense
I would think the number of households is way more important than the RSN for advertisers, because more people will watch a commercial for a Dodger Game than a Giants game, even though their rating is higher
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
i wonder what San Diego looks like.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I just noticed that was households on the far right
thanks again for the Link….interesting to see we are just above atlanta right there with the cubs in terms of households, but that Minny and tampa are beating both us and the cubs
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I thought that was an interesting point you brought up
about all the Dodger games in the past being on basic cable…I’m curious if that made a difference as well
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Hmm...
One thing about the Dodgers numbers on that page is they are only analyzing Prime Ticket, and there’s no note in the bottom about KCAL. It could be that KCAL gets better numbers for the games they televise that would skew the Dodgers up?
It should, right? I mean this could be an archaeic assumption but 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 used to be the basic package that everyone watched whereas Prime Ticket is an extra channel. I still live in my mom’s basement and don’t pay bills so I don’t know if that’s true.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
But all the other teams (except maybe SD) on that page are also all on cable… no idea what their broadcasts are like. Do they have a similar deal, where most games are on basic cable and 1-2 a week are on local broadcast?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers get weak TV ratings in LA?
Does Eric like to punch kittens?
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Mystery outfielder #2
Ryan Raburn.
“Now hearing #Dodgers not just focused on Podsednik. Appear to have interest in Ryan Raburn of #Tigers.”
Was that the guy who blew the game in the 1 game playoff last year?
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd be nice as the RH side of the platoon
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2218&position=OF
Other then his ability to play 2nd not very well I don’t see what he can do that Hoffman couldn’t against LHP.
Really?
without looking it up, I would guess he’s 27, tops
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
and moxiness is undefinable
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
yep, undefinable
especially because “moxie” is already a noun. You don’t have to add the “-ness.”
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd do that trade
Belli has already had his best moments in a Dodgers uniform.
Interesting
Raburn would replace Carroll in LF, so Carroll goes back to backing up 2nd/3rd, Tigers get someone to help Sizemore at 3rd.
I could be talked into it.
career OPS of .818 against lefties. That’s not terrible actually. For Belliard and scraps it’d be ok
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
ok, but he's 29
i doubt he’s losing his skills, so i’ll trust the larger sample size
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
BABIP is way down this year for no real reason. Plus I’ve seen a Free Ryan Rayburn movement.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
813 career OPS against LHP
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=2218&position=OF
but most of that seems to stem from his ungodly 2009 splits.
2010 slash line of .205/.274/.331. He’s only OPSing .763 against lefties. No thanks.
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Small sample size
Thats only 73 PAs. Over his career he has hit lefties pretty well. Just not for average.
yeah you’re right. i pointed that out up top. He really wouldn’t be awful for the rights price (aka Beliard and scraps)
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Thought this was funny
From ESPN Insider Rumors:
But Colletti also indicated that he’s more open-minded about dealing from the farm system, than in the past, which actually puzzles us a bit. Colletti sent blue-chip catching prospect Carlos Santana to Cleveland as part of the package to land Casey Blake, so it’s not like he’s been protecting the farm with rabid devil dogs and futuristic weapons.
seriously
what are we looking at now? Gordon, Withrow and Sands for Podsednik just to beat out the Gnats?
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
kyle russell
does anybody really want him tho
his chances are very slim of making it to the bigs with tat k percentage… hes like a lotto ticket
example?
none of thier prospects (moustakous hosmer myers) are like that
billy butler never Ks
i’d be ok with that one i think
Kenley Jansen: A reason for Dodger fans not to hate everything about Curacao
by bucknellbruin on Jul 28, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Colletti is old school
He protects the farm with a scarecrow.
why all the talk about needing to get SP..
our offense is the problem…. but the only way to fix that is hope manny comes back healthy.. hes the difference between a 500 team and a WS contending team
another game with only 1 player having rbis and us winning
first kemp then martin then casey now andre
One of the more interesting trends
I’ve ever seen. Paul, Loney, Rafy, DeWitt need to get in on that action. The lefties need to start representing.
I love that you figured these out about 10 years after the rest of America did
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no, I think Starbucks just came out with them recently. I don’t go to non-mainstream coffee shops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frappuccino
Well, 1994 is recent, sort of.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Here you go
http://news.starbucks.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=384
The ones that I drink came out May 4th, 2010.
If McDonalds issued a press release saying that you could make yourself a custom Big Mac with any ingredient McDonalds carries, would you say that the Big Mac came out in 2010?
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to this
I had to go to The Habit and get a chocolate shake. I’m kinda glad I did, haha.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Press Hop 2 by DJ Steve Porter
no way it tops the original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJvDgBrwMI&feature=player_embedded
not quite as good
but I like that it sorta rips on all the ego maniacs like TO, Favre, and Bron
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Thread slowing down
can has game preview?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions
Jessica Quiroli heelsonthefield
#Phillies #Cubs: RT @ed_price Hearing possible Ted Lilly for JA Happ deal. NOT confirmed. 8 minutes ago via web
The Cubs already have a better lefthander pitching in the rotation.
who will we trade for pods?
KC farm team is fully loadded!
Catcher: will myers
1st base they have billy butler
2nd base ???
SS they drafted the guy with the 4th overall pick this year
3rd base moustakas
DH move butler or hosmer here or kila kauhoue
outfield derrick robinson alex gordon maybe hosmer probably myers
SP their AA starting rotation is now the best rotation in all of MILB mike montgomery, aaron crow , john lamb , chris dwyer and danny duffy 4 top 100 prospects lol 3 top 50
RP.. you could always use some
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..SP none of our prospect would even crack their AA rotation except maybe withrow
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..SP none of our prospect would even crack their AA rotation except maybe withrowthey are set in all infield position except 2nd base… ivan dejesus?
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..SP none of our prospect would even crack their AA rotation except maybe withrowthey are set in all infield position except 2nd base… ivan dejesus?you could always use an outfielder too so we could trade them an outfielder especially cause it seems like the dodgers have an excess amount of them
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..SP none of our prospect would even crack their AA rotation except maybe withrowthey are set in all infield position except 2nd base… ivan dejesus?you could always use an outfielder too so we could trade them an outfielder especially cause it seems like the dodgers have an excess amount of themwould the royals want dejesus? they probably have better options
RP.. you could always use someso the royals need a catching prospect cause i doubt will myers stays there… his bat is too advanced while his catching isnt and hes gonna move quickly cause of hsi bat..SP none of our prospect would even crack their AA rotation except maybe withrowthey are set in all infield position except 2nd base… ivan dejesus?you could always use an outfielder too so we could trade them an outfielder especially cause it seems like the dodgers have an excess amount of themwould the royals want dejesus? they probably have better optionswhat RP from our farm can we trade
by matthewmafa on Jul 28, 2010 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
i have no freaking idea how that happened
i wrote it myself but i dont know how it did this..
eric if you want you can delete it
oh no
that is too gloriously awesome to delete.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
so suposed to be with the next sentence
plus its supposed to be on the next line.. i pressed enter
Heyman
SI_JonHeyman
#rays in mix for adam dunn. would be big boost for already great team.
Holy crap!!!
Awww
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4633339&id=763142960
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Feel bad for him
but I laugh a bit because I can still remember all the whiners who were bitching that Dodgers didn’t sign him in the offseason.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw vs. Strasburg...back on?!?!?!?!?!?
Strasburg is tentatively scheduled for this Sunday, which would line him up for 8/6 still against Kershaw.
All I have to say is GIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Nats put him on the DL
They are gonna be real careful with him
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
phil
do you still have any tickets left for TBLA night?
Sorry, I just wanted to see if I added a random prospect name and nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo to it.
Just wanted to see what? If it would irritate people?
It irritated people. You win!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
What do the DODGERS NEED?
1. JASON WERTH IN LEFT FIELD
2. DUMP ANDERSON
3. DUMP CARROLL
4. GET A NUMBER 5 STARTER UNDER 30 AND NOT REBUILT.
5. BRING UP LEACH AFTER AAA DONE
6. BRING UP TRANCOSCO AFTER AAA DONE
7. SAY GOOD BYE TO MANNY 2011
by California Mobile CPR on Jul 28, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions
Not sure I would want you frantically pushing on my chest with all-caps aggression were I in need of CPR
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I have been wrong lately, and I know I have been getting the crap back i deserve for such assumptions, but at least I never scream through my keyboard :)
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Why would the Dodgers dump Carroll?
He’s a backup infielder, and he’s been fine.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU MEAN TRANCOSO!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I will never understand the appeal of Brent Leach.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
especially since his wife closed access to her blog.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
How else are we going to find pics of James McDonald fishing while wearing a Pirates hat?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriosuly
I don’t like him in the least. If he’s pitching as a starter in LA, we have huge problems
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Pods looks intriguing as a pickup
Hes like a better mas Juan Pierre, and would look nice as a true leadoff man
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
our leadoff guy is pretty good.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I was thinking that as well
Seems when he starts he’d hit 2nd, but hopefully he isn’t starting all that often. I noticed Paul has been hitting second lately, does that look like a trend or should he drop down to 7th?
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Pods right now
Is what we hope Paul will be in the future. pods and his .352 and 30 Sb’s should be batting 1 or 2 every game
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that Furcal kid
he’s got potential
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
A 1/2 of Pods and Furcal would look pretty sweet
They would be a nice pair of table-setters
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
could also do the LaRussa thing
and bat him 9th. Though that seems more often than not to bite the team in the ass.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
just in my perception
whenever I see it done, it seems like the 8th spot comes up with an RBI chance and two outs, and it’s the pitcher.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I never liked that concept. If you want your 9 guy hitting in front of your leadoff guy, hit them #1 and 2. Giving more at bats over the course of a season to your pitchers/pinch hitters than you do a starting position player seems to not make sense, unless of course said starter is Garret Anderson.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
It’s pretty much all about grouping events together to score runs. The benefit of having the pitcher eighth is to have more guys on base for their number three hitter, which happens to be Mr. Pujols.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Roger that, but wouldn’t that be the case regardless of if they hit 1-2-3-4 or 9-1-2-3? I guess my argument goes both ways.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
No
you are just changing the #8 and #9 hitter
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't want your worst hitter leading off
For every spot you move up or down in the lineup, you gain/lose 18 plate appearances per season. So moving your worst hitter from #9 to #1, gives him way more plate appearances than he should have.
New thread pleeeeease?
It allows you to have more RBI chances with your better hitters. Also, the player you bat 9th is usually your worst hitter (that is not your pitcher), so you don’t want to move him to the #2 hole. Some pretty smart people have shown that batter your pitcher 8th can net you a few extra runs per year. Not really too big a deal, but every little bit helps, right?
vr, Xei
Those studies also show that you hit your best hitter second, not third. If you pull a LaRussa and put Skip Schumaker there, it’s a waste of time.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
LaRussa has somehow managed to be both new school and old school stubborn at the same time. It’s fascinating.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
my favorite kind of stubborn
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
What comes after the table-setters? (3-5 hitters)
food servers? food consumers? skip all the way to table clearers?
Browser bogging down as we hit 800 posts
Wish the company would give me some more RAM and bandwidth so I can keep up with SBN.
I’ll have something up in a few minutes
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
is there an anti-rec?
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
that picture actually amde me laugh out loud for some reason
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
What is he so happy about?
Being told he would play 1st base over Choi?
The timestamp on the picture says August 12
It was his first hit of the season.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
OT
oxy elite pro is like crack that hasn’t been banned by the FDA yet.
jesus christ this is ridiculous. i want to run around the building like a headless chicken.
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