Dodgers Address Juan Pierre Shortage, Acquire Scott Podsednik From Royals
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM PDT
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The White Sox chose to replace outfielder Scott Podsednik with a trade with the Dodgers for Juan Pierre this offseason, and today the Dodgers completed that circle of life by trading for Podsednik from the Royals, per Jayson Stark of ESPN.com:
#Royals have agreed to trade Scott Podsednik to the #Dodgers for 2 minor leaguers. More to come on ESPN.com
Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports gives us the cost:
#Royals get C Lucas May and P Elisaul Pimentel from #Dodgers.
Perhaps the Pierre comparison is a bit unfair. Both are speedy left-handed corner outfielders with similar career numbers (career 89 OPS+ for Podsednik, 84 OPS+ for Pierre), both have a ring in a box, but the 34-year old Podsednik has actually enjoyed a bit of a resurgence the past two years. Since the beginning of 2009, Podsednik has hit .306/.353/.407, for a 101 OPS+. His .335 wOBA this season is higher than anyone currently on the Dodger bench.
Podsednik has 30 stolen bases this season, but also led the American League being caught 12 times.
Defensively, Podsednik has been slightly below average the past two seasons, per UZR/150 (1.3 and 1.7 runs below average the last two years, respectively). Using plus/minus (via Bill James Online), Podesdnik was three runs above average in Chicago last season, but is eight runs below average as a Royal this year. Looking at the break down, it appears he has been particularly ineffective with balls hit deeply (15 runs below average after five runs above average last season), so I wonder if that might be due to different positioning in Kansas City or perhaps a park effect.
Per the amazing Cot's Contracts, we see that Podsednik is under contract for $1.75 million this season, plus a $2 million option for 2011, or a $100,000 buyout. With 67 days left in the season, the Dodgers are on the hook for roughly $640,710 in 2010 salary for Podsednik. He can void his 2011 option if he reaches 525 plate appearances. Podsedink currently has 435 plate appearances, so 525 seems eminently reachable.
The acquisition of Podsednik at the very least means dramatically less playing time for Xavier Paul, who has started 13 of the last 21 games since Manny Ramirez was placed on the disabled list. Podsednik will likely become the everyday left fielder at least until Ramirez gets back, and even then given Manny's fragility, Podsednik figures to see quite a bit of playing time down the stretch for the Dodgers.
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See I want one of them to be Link
just for the humorous connection to Pierre to go full circle :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Let the conjecture begin on the minor leaguers
Russell Mitchell, Brett Wallach
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Tim says no way!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I am so outside Ned's office
/Ned opens door, stabs himself
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
I LIKE Posednik. There, I said it. Banish me if you must!
;-)
But I hope it’s not for anyone great either.
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I like him as well
depending on the prospect cost
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I am on this boat too
I am in favor of it as long as it isn’t a crazy haul.
He is better than any other option we currently have in LF
Nathan Eovaldi + John Link
While we don’t see it as a similar package to the Juan deal, I feel that with the difference in cost it wouldn’t surprise me. Please don’t be, though. Please…
MLB network just announced it
and started talking about how “The Dodgers need starting pitching”.
1 ER, 43 innings, Suck it.
Also, can Dan Plesac stop adding another N to Vicente Padilla’s name?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
Unfortunately its not Leach
Hes getting shit on right now
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
Leach just got pulled after 52 pitches
It could be because he sucks absolute dick, but hte announcer was a little puzzled
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW, Jaded Tripon has temporarily left the building. Right now, its happy Tripon.
I got an interview with a high school in Redondo Beach on Friday.
Buene suerte
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Jeez. I can't spell today. Buena suerte.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I had no idea it was spelt wrong! :)
Not a big need for Spanish in cetral Arkansas though.
My Dad lived in PHX for 25 years. He is my go to guy when I need help with Spanish
Thanks everyone. The job calls for teaching AP Euro, so they likely want somebody more experienced but just getting an interview is huge in this job market.
Just keep on plugging. A lot of districts won’t get their budgets finalized until Aug. This is my first interview out of 80 or 90 applications so far. I already have 9 or 10 rejections. I know its difficult staying upbeat, and I’m probably being hypocritical here since I turned into a surly SOB on these boards for a couple of days but it’ll work out in the end.
80 to 90 apps??
where are you applying? I’ve really only been going thru edjoin, where else are you finding edu jobs?
People who I hope did not get traded
Because I like:
Sands, Jansen, Trayvon, Solano
Because it would be to much for the Pod:
Gordon, Withrow, Webster, Rubby Dubby Do, MaGill, Sands(twice), Jansen
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yeah I'd be on board with any of those
Though I kinda wouldn’t mind holding on to May. But not sure why since he can’t catch worth a damn.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
It would be funny if it was AJ and Hoffman
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Heyman on MLB Network
Talking Scotty Pods deal.
I'd like to think that
we should get the pitching we need first before dishing out prospects, but I suppose the prospects we gave up for Pods wouldn’t factor in to get the pitcher we want in the first place. I hope.
Oh
FTS
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that your guess or the answer?
Be specific here folks for those of us not watching tv
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Confirmed
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That’ll do. Pimentel might bite us in the ass later on, but you can say that about almost any A ball guy someone would trade for.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah.
I’m actually okay with this.
Lucas May is a future DH.
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Oh you'd say that about whoever was named! ;-)
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by underdog on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone who is good
Or I like :)
I’m just glad it wasn’t anyone great…yet.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Somebody please get in Ned's face about this
Pimentel? Really?
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
I don’t believe pitchers exist until they have graduated from the MWL.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Once he gets a meaningful sample size in AA :)
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
its not that i mind trading him at all
its trading him for essetially juan pierre. his k/bb ratios and stuff reports are inclined to tell me he could have been a thrown in for much bigger deals.
I doubt the second part. As Julio said, he was like the 7th best pitcher in the system and in Low A. Sure he could have been thrown into a better deal, but throw ins are throw ins.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I feel the same
plus hes only in low A right now anyways
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be ok if this meant
Beast Mode v. 2.
by soccerman8 on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess we could stand to lose some pitchers
After all, all we do is draft ’em…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
The Last Dodger Pitching Prospect...
..named Pimentel the Dodgers had, Julio Pimentel, got traded to Kansas City with Blake Johnson for Elmer Dessens.
I was just thinking that! I was momentarily confused about this trade
as if stuck in a weird time loop.
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Damn you
I just spent 5 minutes searching for that deal
Traded Blake Johnson (minors), Julio Pimentel (minors), Odalis Perez and cash to the Kansas City Royals. Received Elmer Dessens.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
the Loons
had the best rotation in the minors!
FUCK YOU DODGERS!
-loons fans.
An d they no longer do?
C’mon, off the ledge Nate… ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
and AA catcher rivera goes to AA
opens a spot for a catcher to go to AA… do we have any?
Don’t count on it…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I looked up his wOBA the past 2 seasons compared to Napoli in AA and AAA. They were pretty damn close.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Now he can play the part he was born to play baby!
DH.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
You know, you're supposed to trade from your strength.
And the Dodgers strength this year was starting pitching.
Now, should you trade it for Scotty Pods?
That’s a very different discussion.
But this isn’t Josh Bell for George Sherrill or Carlos Santana for Casey Blake.
He just turned 22 on
7/10
He was an undrafted free agent that was signed in 2008. Which means probably very low bonus. He is older than Wallach, Magill and Webster.
This is just as much a move for next year as it is for this year.
Not the difference maker obviously.
Current OFs
Kemp
Ethier
GA
Paul
With Pods coming and Reed coming back that makes 4… What happens when Manny returns? 5 OFs?
THEN we get the GA DFA or phantom DL we're all praying for
I wouldn’t mind that “dilemma” anyway
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
lucas may
was never going to be a starting catcher for the dodgers. doesn’t mean anything about martin.
Again, why assume Lucas May would be future catcher or Martin replacement anyway?
May was way below average as a catcher. he will be a DH or something in KC.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Figured we should use Russ as a trading chip
if anything.
Jansen
Oh wait…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not happy about this deal
though I’m not sad or anything. I was hoping Pimental could go in a trade for a much better player.
WE TRADED JUAN PIERRE BEFORE THE YEAR STARTED, WHY DID WE GET HIM BACK?
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Frankly
if Juan Pierre was making this little money for a few months. He would be worth a back up role.
Exactly
I’m not a fan of Podsednik, but his salary is acceptable for what he is.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
You did see where Podsednik has been a solid player the last two years.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't have a problem with this deal
I mean there a number of better pitching prospects, if Lucas May amounts to something, that’s great for him.
Do you really think what we need is a guy with a .400 slugging percentage?
Personally I like people who can hit a homerun more than once a world series run.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Touche
I’m just saying, let’s go after someone who has more power. Who that is, I don’t know. Luke Scott would have been nice.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
he just had a 2 homer game
albeit in yankee stadium
I dunno about you, but I'll take....
Pod + Link + Ely over Pierre + May + Pimentel.
We know what we’re getting out of the left group (for the most part) and I’m completely okay with a solid backup outfielder/ David Roberts Pinch-Runner sort of dude, a serviceable 4th/5th starter and an okay reliever. There is also the cost of Juan versus the cost of Scott, which, I believe, was nowhere near similar.
Pierre
wanted to be traded somewhere he’d play every day.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Trayvon Robinson with a little league homer . .kinda
walk, error on pickoff attempt goes to third, scores on a wild pitch
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:29 PM PDT reply actions
seems like sands and tray
have advanced batting eyes. especially tray, there’s no way they are pitching around him to put him on base in front of the sandman.
It's probably more
that this pitcher is pretty terrible
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
im talking about their whole seasons
not just today.
The real question is
if you are an opposing manager and Joe Torre puts Scott Podsednik into the on-deck circle to pinch-hit, are you a little scared?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Scared, but not as frightened as GA. That man was intentionally walked recently, dontchaknow
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
yayyy
i like it. now let’s go get us ted lilly for the best rotation in baseball and one more good reliever wouldn’t hurt. i know they’ve been better lately (thanks to the starters) but i’m still very shaky about our pen.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
Getting another reliever could hurt, because you ain’t getting these guys for free.
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
downs
toronto asking for montero from yanks and casey kelly from sox…. LOL that means withrow and dee gordon from us
i know withrow and gordon
are top prospects but i don’t know shit about our farm. is that a good deal?
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
gotcha
definitely not then. though if we get oswalt, and apparently we’re making progress, monk would boost the pen.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
may oh my
Because over a season of Manny, Reed Johnson and the dead man walking Garrett Anderson sometimes things like this are necessary. Good move. May and Pimental are good minors but Podsendnik is a good major league player.
I'm ok with this trade
But if GA doesn’t get DFA’d as a result, I will be very pissed…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
Maybe Ned is the only one in the universe that doesn’t realize we have no money to spend and that he should adjust his philosophy/strategy accordingly
Why? He’s cheap and better than what we have.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
paul if given an adequate chance..
is as good
If given a chance.
Clearly Ned & Co. are not in the waiting mode right now for Paul to get into a groove.
sounds good
our bench needs some life since GA/ Belliard have been horrible so far this year.
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
I hope Pods
will be the every-day starter until manny comes back
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions
He’ll probably be the everyday starter until 2011.
by regfairfield on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll see if you are singing that tune after three weeks of Podboy at bats.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
If he is hitting like he has the whole season
Than I can’t complain. .310 avg with a .352 OPB. sure he wont hit many homers but he will steal a ton of bases. I don’t think Paul is capable of that yet
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Baseball HQ
Podsednik has stayed healthy and received full-time AB, two things that seemed improbable. But his impressive 2010 owes much to good luck. Podsednik is riding a 35% h%, four points higher than his three year average. In addition, Podsednik’s never strong power has sunk to a new low: he has a 39 PX, seventh worst among all batters with at least 200 AB. Taken together, the inflated h% and utter lack of power make it no surprise that Podsednik’s .248 xBA is more than 50 points worse than his actual BA. In other words, his .301 BA is a FLUKE.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
if he keeps that OBP over 350 like he is right now
itll be great
So when Podsednik arrives
Does the 13th pitcher get optioned or does GA get DFAed? And then when Reed J is ok?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Wilson should get fined for that hideous hair
nevermind the shoes
Still confused as to where all the OFs will go, there must be another move coming… OF on roster if no players are moved.
Kemp
Ethier
Manny
Reed
Paul to minors
GA
Pods
Paul option or Anderson DFA are the options
by Michael White on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Manny wont play the field, GA will unfortunately be the LH ph and who knows when Reed and Manny are coming back anyway.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
juan<<< scot pod
pod better at getting base and actually can hit a homer… he recently had a 2 homer game… and there is no way his D is worse then juan… plus hes playing for like no money… hes cheap… good trade
pimental is probably a reliever long run… a good one tho..
may is a backup catcher whose horible defensivly and not good enough to be a DH… and we dont even know if his offense will be good enough in the majors..
His fucking name is Dan Uggla
Can have him playing second here now? K thx.
Love it
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The portrait of FAIL
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i remember when i used to think brian wilson was a good closer
what was i thinking?
I'll be taking my talents to South Beach.
One fail does not change the fact he's a good closer
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I'm pretty sure he still is a good closer.
But does blowing 1.5/10 or so saves make one a bad closer? I think his numbers are better than that., actually.
LOLGIants
to paraphrase a frequent MCC comment
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damn, wes helms struck out
I get the feeling they will walk off now : (
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I'm a firm believer in the reverse jinx
but now that I explained that, I probably undid it
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
what do the dodgers acquire next: relief pitcher or starter?
I'll be taking my talents to South Beach.
@dylanohernandez In case you were wondering, the Royals didn’t send any cash to the Dodgers.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
@dylanohernandez GM Ned Colletti said the Dodgers are still shopping. “It’s all about pitching between now and the 31st,” he said.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oswalt is next!
mlbtraderumors.com has said the Dodgers are making progress
ken rosenthal said it
and he hates the dodgers
whatever. its nice to hear right or wrong
i can see you after a good dream of yours: go straight to the mirror and say “No! Wrong! Don’t be dumb!”
What? I see nothing on MLB TR about us being closer to Oswalt.
“The Phillies and Astros are now dealing one-on-one, with no other teams involved, according to Olney (via Twitter). Jon Heyman of SI.com says the Phillies are the favorites to acquire Oswalt and notes (on Twitter) that the Yanks inquired once.”
by Taylor Maricle on Jul 28, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
no douchetard fake "tribute to his father" happening today
not even on a vulture walkoff for the fauxhawked dickwad
shove your giant coke bottle, fuckheads
by lchristmas on Jul 28, 2010 6:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
wow... um... even tho I hate the Giants that seemed kinda crazy. :-)
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At the very least
Lisa Dergan, his wife, may make some appearances at The Ravine.
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