Dodger Offense Lulled To Sleep By Padres
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 PM PDT
in Dodgers Game Recaps
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PrintThe Dodgers fell in love with their recent formula of winning low-scoring shutouts, and it looked for a while like a third-inning RBI single by Jamey Carroll would hold up. But a trio of two-run rallies by the Padres ended the Dodgers fun and San Diego took the second game of the series 6-1.
Hiroki Kuroda was cruising through five scoreless innings, having thrown just 63 pitches. He had retired 10 straight batters at that point, and a number of scoreless streaks were in play:
- 15 straight innings by Kuroda
- 30 straight innings by Dodger pitchers
- 31 straight innings by Dodger pitchers at Petco Park
However, in the sixth inning, all those streaks came to an end, as the Padres used two singles, two walks, and a sacrifice fly to pull ahead 2-1. They added two more runs in the seventh inning off Jeff Weaver (well, one was inherited by Weaver), but the good news is that Jack Taschner finally recorded an out as a Dodger, facing his sixth batter since joining the club. Travis Schlichting allowed the final two runs in the eighth.
Notes
- The final 19 Dodgers were retired tonight by Padres pitchers
- The Dodgers have scored 28 runs in 13 games since the All-Star break, an average of 2.15 per game
- Justin Miller, who was designated for assignment last week, cleared waivers and was outrighted to Triple A Albuquerque, per Ken Gurnick of MLB.com
- Vicente Padilla faces Mat Latos in tomorrow's series finale, a 3:35pm start. Scott Podsednik is expected to be in San Diego tomorrow.
WP - Clayton Richard (8-5): 6 IP, 4 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 6 strikeouts
LP - Hiroki Kuroda (8-9): 6+ IP, 4 hits, 3 runs, 2 walks, 5 strikeouts
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Am i the only one
excited about Pods coming tomorrow? He can be the Juan Pierre of last year!
by SeanMillerSavior on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 PM PDT reply actions
I like it. I don’t think we gave up much for an upgrade especially if the Dodger DFA GA. Some new blood may be the boost we need. Still think another move is needed.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
especially if the Dodger DFA GA
You lost me there (as much as it should happen)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Pods will help us score more than two runs tomorrow
Book it
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
2.15...
what an ugly number. please, oh please, scotty… steal us some bases! score us some runs! padilla will do his job no doubt.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
Because he was so effective in KC
at leading them to victories
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
he doesn't have to lead us to victory...
like i said, steal us some bases and score us some runs.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone has to drive him in
Since he won’t be hitting any home runs to score runs.
For instance, Carroll was on base twice tonight and Ethier went 0-4.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
okay
and he could very well be an extra baserunner for us or be the one to drive people in. at this rate, that’s obviously an upgrade.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
padilla
will be the one leading us to victory.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Padilla’s probably due for a severe regression.
He was a very medicore pitcher much of his career. Rare a guy will turn it around in his 30s..
again, he pitched most of his career in a hitter's park
tomorrow he’s in the ultimate pitcher’s park
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
padilla's k/bb ratio is sick but...
real improvement lies in the stuff.
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=964&position=P
velocities on his pitches are faster with the dodgers then before.
interesting
I guess my point is that i’m much more worried about facing latos, not how well Padilla will pitch
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
me too
I think Padilla will pitch fine. I don’t have as much confidence in the Dodgers scoring against Latos.
Like the Manny to
Florida stories in 2008
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
apparently
he is a phillie.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not exactly. A deal is supposedly in place but needs Oswalt’s consent.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/mlb/100728-astros-await-oswalt%27s-ok-on-trade-to-phillies
This is the only source.
I say Oswalt rejects it
Just to be a douche
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Like Peavy to Chisox, part 1
Then on the 31st Oswalt approves of another trade to Philly, lol.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
haha
that would give me a good laugh.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If he really wants to win he should accept it
that will be an amazing pitching staff, and I expect the bats to stay pretty hot, I think that team will again be VERY dangerous if they make this happen
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
reported in the game thread
that he is a Phil pending physical and the rest of the shit that happens
Not while
Lexi Belle is still in the picture…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Tough game
now I understand how the TBLA staff needs to be patient for several reasons. Stay thirsty my friends.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Jul 28, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions
I don't understand that.
Drink gin, my friends
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What does Podsednik do that Xavier Paul cant?
Hit left handers better I guess?
I dont think he’ll matter much to the Dodgers, but I also dont think much was given up to get him.
I just hope he’s not the starting LF’er for 2011. That would suck.
hit about 300
steal 30 bases.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well has done that twice
in his career, three times if he finishes over .300 this year.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
the point is he's doing it right now.
and he’s been on fire the last 37 games. stop being so damn pessimistic about this addition, it’s very much an improvement from how we’ve been performing offensively.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a doozie
If we can eek out a win tomorrow I’ll feel much better heading into San Fran, not looking forward to facing Latos and Lincy back to abck though : (
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Scotty Pods can throw a 100 MPH fastball.
Scotty Pods can hit for .400.
Scotty Pods can hit for 90 homers in a season.
Scotty Pods can block out the sun.
Scotty Pods can rest in the shade.
you forgot one.
Scotty Pods can steal 3 consecutive bases.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Scotty Pods can steal home from home.
by Tripon on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rosenfail working on it
FOX 26 in Houston reporting #Astros and #Phillies have deal in place for Oswalt. Trying to confirm. His approval would be required.
His wheels suck?
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything he hits on the barrel goes out?
Because he’s a f*cking boss…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Sandman is too swole for doubles.
He hits balls through the wall and the umpires are scared to give him anything less than a home run.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
The Dodgers have a better Offensive Line.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
Paul or Pods
may not matter against Latos
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Latos will get his ass handed to him tomorrow.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Latos was an 11th round pick in 2006...
He got a 1.25 mils bonus though…so I’m think the Padres went way above slot to sign him. Definitely worked.
I heard Drabek is/was a dick. But he also has a triple-plus curve.
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
if he had a triple plus curve and a 95 mph fastball like the reports say
he would be K’ing more then he is right now in AA
i'm going to go kick something now.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I do appreciate the fact that Suchon
interviews players on the opposing team when they win, it’s like the old days.
a caller literally mentioned that actually
maybe this was posted right after you heard that…
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Dodgers are going to take tomorrow's game
and take the Giants series.
by RoyaleWithCheeze on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM PDT reply actions
correction
sweep the series.
Kenley Jansen > Mariano Rivera
by douchiedude on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
At the risk of getting shamed by you guys, I'll ask
Will James Loney ever develop power?
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
20-25 is fine...
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
he just needs to ask Bonds about his arthritis cream
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
I guess that Sept 07 run Loney had was an aberration
That’s a shame…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
no
hes not a home run hitter… hes more of a slap line drive hitter… he doesnt have enough power to hit it out unless the pitch is middle in and a little up….
his swing is not made for power at all even tho hes a big guy
Heyman
houson’s FOX 26 reporting #Astros, #Phillies have deal for Oswalt. hed still have to approve deal, assuming true.
That’s not how it works sir.
ned trading jerry sands for jeff huson?
by lchristmas on Jul 28, 2010 10:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Everybody is up!
Fox Sports in Houston reporting Oswalt to #phillies done, pending Oswalt approval. Unconfirmed.
Slumber party!
how absolutely barren
will the Phils farm system be after this?
If they dont win it all next year they will have very little to show for all these moves.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Dylan H
“I asked Torre if the #Dodgers will demote a pitcher to make room for Podsednik. “I think there’s a chance we’ll do that tomorrow,” he said."
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Schlicting will probably be optioned. They don’t need a 40 man spot yet, since they traded someone on the 40 man.
I would rather they get rid of the worst pitcher on the team (Taschner).
by silverwidow on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking as well.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 28, 2010 10:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Some callers on tonight's Dodger Talk
need to make sure their phones don’t have low batteries
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Really only 5 choices (in no particular order):
1. Option Schlicting (sp?)
2. Option Paul
3. DFA GA
4. DFA GS
5. DFA JT
Any of the three DFA’s don’t have to happen, since they don’t need a 40-man spot, but all are viable options.
If I had my druthers, this would be my list:
1. DFA GA
2. DFA Taschner
3. Option Schlicting
4. Send down Sherrill (if he would go, but I don’t think he would)
5. Option Paul (though I think this may be a good move at the moment, he’s not doing a thing well on the big club right now, some time back in AAA could help)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
as poor as your brother's results have been
(and I do not post this to start another debate with you) I think he has a better chance than taschner to contribute something down the stretch
and as others have said if gs was going to be dfa’d they’d have just done it by now
id prefer ga gone (again I ask — how shitty will he have to be? the sample size is not that small any more — he’s a corpse) but it will probably be a pitcher – taschner has to be the guy (or longshot – schlichting optioned), he still stinks of the giants to me anyway
I just wish pods was a switch hitter so we’d definitely have seen the last of jamey carroll, starting left fielder
one more thing on sherrill as a loogy in response to whoever’s been posting the splits:
a loogy can’t be completely dismal against rh hitters due to the potential for pinch hitting. many lefties who are going to be left in to face a sherrill in late innings are going to be top hitters… so he’ll be facing a good percentage (35-45% — I’ve seen the numbers somewhere) of rh hitters as well as tough lefties. to simply look at this years splits and say “don’t let him face rh hitters and he’ll be fine” is really not feasible.
he will have to improve significantly to be helpful – but as long as he is in the dodger blue I will root for him to pitch well.
by lchristmas on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but how often has a LOOGY been brought in to face a left handed hitter and the opposing manager pinch hits for that guy. It’s worth the risk of using the LOOGY anyway if you think they’ll get a starter out. Now, no one is pinch hitting for Ryan Howard, but you may get someone like Ibanez out of the game, then you bring back in a righty and you’ve lost a pitcher but they’ve lost a starter.
I’m not sure how often this happens anymore, but its still worth it.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
it isn't worth it if that RH hitter brought in gets the hit that wins the game
its an acceptable risk/reward to get a starter out of the game if there’s at least a league average chance of getting that RH hitter out -
but Sherrill has been unspeakably bad against righties in a pretty decent sample size this year – the splits are hard to look at
I got all excited when you said choice 5 was DFA JT.
I thought you meant Joe Torre.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I don't care what some of you think (But others I care so much!!!! lol)
But Heroes is an awesome show. I’m currently watching the 9th episode of the 3rd season, and it’s just great TV.
Too bad season 4 just blew so badly.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Too bad the first story arc of season 3 had a meh ending
and failed to make the 2nd story arc interesting or believable?
It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, so I’m feeling very rusty on it. The second story arc was a good idea, just not pulled off in the best way (like much of Heroes).
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
They simply wrote themselves into a corner in season one
They made 3 characters that where simply too powerful and had to try to reboot them every 12 episodes, powerwise and with Syler personality wise.
So
I know we don’t like low average high homerun guys, but is it worth looking into Jose Bautista? It is the Blue Jays, so the price might be just as high for Downs as it is for Bautista, but it seems like it’s something we should consider, you know, because Casey Blake forgot how to hit MLB pitchers, Russell Martin style.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I'd rather hire
The Blue Jays hitting coach…
If the eyes are the windows to the soul, then these sunglasses are the curtains telling you to keep the fuck out!!!
by angelofdeath on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Matt and Andre
have had the same hitting coach when they each won Silver Slugger awards in 2009
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh I know this is fools good
But why not ride the wave while it lasts? He’s already got 30 homeruns, he could be good for another 10 or so, and there’s no way any Dodger will do that with how all of them have hit since May.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Its rather amazing that the Padres mop up guy – Tim Stauffer – has allowed 1 run in 29 ip this year.
Just goes to show how career of years their entire pitching staff is having..from the top to the bottom.
The Padres
are 4-7 on Thursdays and 9-9 (in their sand uniforms)
by bhsportsguy on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
This may sound downright insane
But am I weird for thinking it’s weird that there is no Kershaw or Billingsley jersey on dodgers.com or mlb.com to buy?
Would would one go about getting a Kershaw jersey? I look on eBay, but I’m not sure if I’d rather get one on there or just get one from an official mlb store.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Buy the custom one and slap a 22 and a Kershaw on there.
Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.
I guess I can just buy one next Saturday
I’m just surprised they don’t have it in the online store.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Random Thoughts on a Thursday Morning
1. I see that Ned swooped in at the last moment to take Posednik away from the Giants. Isn’t that how he got Pierre?
2. Posednik is still better than Pierre, though. Ask any White Sox fan.
3. I can’t help but wonder what this deal says about Manny’s health.
4. Can’t say I knew much about Pimentel, but simply from reading this site I had concluded that Lucas May would never catch in the majors. So the reaction to his trade surprises me a little.
5. What’s Ned giving up for Ted Lilly?
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 29, 2010 6:00 AM PDT reply actions
I am looking forward to seeing Pods, he can only help at this point. However, if GA is not gone by the end of this month then I really don’t know what to say about our chances. Not that GA is going to make or break this team, but his roster spot could be used by someone with some chance of contributing.
agree
the response over at mcc is amusing, they are acting like we just traded carlos santana again for a player with the usefulness of derosa and the contract of rowand, and signed him to a jason schmidt extension.
guffawing it up about our “top catching prospect” – he’s a 25 year old with borderline tools and we threw in a middling a-ball pitcher to get a CHEAP useful major league player at a position of need…
calm it down over there
and goddamnit, get GA out of here before his continued presence causes me to break more objects in my house
by lchristmas on Jul 29, 2010 6:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
GA’s craptasticness is spreading to the rest of the team. Much like vampires, the only way to stop the spread is to get rid of the source.
I would not be shocked if Schlichting were the man optioned today to make room for Podsednik. In order of likelihood, IMO:
1) Schlichting optioned
2) Paul optioned
3) Taschner DFA
678) Anderson DFA
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
3, 1, 2, 678
my prediction, not what i’d like to see
but take into account that I have no information to support this and I am mildly retarded
by lchristmas on Jul 29, 2010 6:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If we assume that Ned still wants a starter (Lilly? Maholm?) and a reliever, then by Monday Taschner, Schlichting and Anderson should be gone. I know the smart money is on Paul instead of GA, but Pods and Johnson should give Torre enough veteran presence. Pods has a ring in a box! Of course the wild card for GA remains Manny’s calf—when I first heard about the Pods deal my gut reaction was to wonder if Manny was going to the 60-day DL.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 29, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
but if a GA DFA were to happen, I’m not sure it would happen before Johnson gets back. I’m willing to be pleasantly surprised though.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions
If Happ is the centerpiece of the Phlly trade with the Astros
then to me this another example of how the lack of development of both James McDonald and Scott Elbert have hurt the Dodgers chances in making a deal this season.
Yep. It could also be another example of how teams will ask for our best prospects then turn around and take crap from another team.
But what pitching prospect/starter do we have that can compare to the MLB time of Happ? I know he is overrated, but crying foul about what is asked from us on this one seems misguided. We did not have a “proven” mlb starter to give them (at least in their eyes), and our FO needs to take responsibility for that.
by robotmadeofnails on Jul 29, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Now that Lucas May and Pimentel are out of the Dodgers system
They will get much more attention and move up in prospect rankings. Hardly anyone in prospect circles was ranking Santana, Bell, etc… as TOP prospects before their trades. They only got national attention after.
For instance, Josh Bell was a C+ prospect before the 09’ season. He was having a pretty solid year (but nothing off the charts), got traded, and suddenly he was one of the top 3B prospects in the minors.
Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Deal is 3-for-1. Happ in. #Astros would pay “very significant” part of Oswalt’s remaining salary, which is over 23M. #MLB #Phillies
Astros are getting a minor league first basemen they wanted, forget his name off hand, and one other. Astros are also paying $12M, half of what Oswalt is owed, if his 2012 option is bought out, not picked up.
Thought the Cards were going to get him, but Astros wanted the moon to move him inside the division. I know Oswalt wanted to go to STL or ATL more than anywhere, since those are closer to his home. At the end, he was just fed up with Houston, and not putting forth the effort to win.
Still wouldn’t mind seeing him decline the trade.
JeffSchultzAJC
Multiple reports that Astros would get Jay Happ, 2 prospects in Oswalt deal w/Philly. They also would pick up some of Oswalt’s salary. 1 minute ago
Depending on who the two prospects are, and I can’t imagine they are great since Philly has moved most of their great talent, then our equivalent package would be Ely plus a couple of prospects.
Hard to believe Ned didn’t offer Ely. Seems to me that we’re back to bh’s point—Seattle, Arizona, and now Houston wanted a young major leaguer they could plug into the lineup from day 1. Smoak, Happ, and Hokie Joe were preferable to Ely and McDonald.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 29, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
McDonald, Elbert, and Ely aren’t quite at that level, yet, so any combo of prospects aside from them would still not fulfill the desire of Arizona and Houston to get an actual major leaguer back in return.
I’m angry, but more frustrated by circumstance right now.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It probably
Would not bug me if the Phillies picked up all the salary, then you could argue that the Dodgers did not have the resources.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 29, 2010 7:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is it crazy to think
that its more difficult for Ned to work out deals with a lot of GM’s? From the reports that he is not the easiest guy to work with, on top of the likely impression that Ned is a sucker, I don’t find it hard to imagine other GM’s asking for more from us every time Ned picks up the phone, just to see what he’ll go for.
I don’t think that’s necessarily the case, but rather most of the rumored stuff that leaks out before deals actually happen is just crap.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
100% agree
and the final names for the big boys suggest you are correct. It also would seem that we are way over valuing our players or other GM’s are way under valuing our players when we see the names that do eventually get dealt.
Given the struggles of Elbert/McDonald two our most highly touted pitchers entering this season, is it any wonder the GM’s are not sold on our prospects.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
His biggest problem is that almost all of his ‘name’ prospects are either already on the team and trading them creates another hole, or just not all that good.
by LA Taco on Jul 29, 2010 7:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Said it before
But the biggest disappointing thing this year for me, has been the inability of Elbert and McDonald to step up to where their talent dictates they should be. I really thought this could be their year. Manny being old, Middle relievers being middle releivers, kemp still trying to figure it out, Martin 10 being the same as Martin 09, all of that sucks but for whatever reason I wish the most that those two had put it together.
by LA Taco on Jul 29, 2010 7:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Happ
If healthy is better than Ely.
by bhsportsguy on Jul 29, 2010 7:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
True. And much, much more heralded which is hugely important in a deal like this.
by LA Taco on Jul 29, 2010 7:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Either way
Its pretty interesting that guys like Saunders & Happ + throw-ins are netting “Aces” this year.
Via a via the Dodgers, who would be our Saunders and Happ?
by LA Taco on Jul 29, 2010 7:50 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We don’t have one, which is the problem.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
We would have to supplement a guy like Ely or McDonald with better prospects.
Either that or take on more of Oswalt’s salary which is very unlikely considering our situation.
Exactly. I would love to blame people but you really need to look at a whole series of moves going back years. As you say above, the circumstances are frustrating.
by LA Taco on Jul 29, 2010 7:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman
heard #phils, #astros were discussing happ, rhp vance worley and 2 younger pitchers. could be package for #oswalt. about 2 hours ago
Combined with the fact too that the Astros are supposedly paying for a lot of Oswalt's contract.
That’s what gets me most upset.
bydanielvictor
Names I’m hearing for Oswalt are either scrubs or low-A high-end talent (like Singleton, who’s getting Manny comparisons). 3 minutes ago
Mr. Obvious says
Why the hell didn’t they just keep Lee? This is like a dog chasing its tail.
@soyboquense
Over
you can’t go from so much optimism to so much negativity on Manny. He is not going to sit on the bench and do a Thome.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yes
I think he will start if/when he comes back, just not everyday. And, I don’t know when that is.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 29, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
NPUT
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/29/1594303/what-is-inside-the-pod
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
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