hypothetical question

by kimo from kauai on Jul 31, 2010 12:27 AM PDT

If the Astros had offered Oswalt to the Dodgers for a similar package as Philadelphia offered what would you have done? Assuming speedy, projection outfielder; T Robinson instead of A. Gose and speedy, projection SS D Gordon instead of J Villar; and a partially tested MLB SP (or combination) McDonald/Ely/? instead of Happ.

Could the Dodgers have wound up with Oswalt plus $11M? I feel Gordon is much more valuable than Villar and Robinson is at least equal as a prospect to Gose. Granted the pitcher would be a bit less valuable than Happ but maybe a combination of two pitchers could have been involved. Of course we don't know what was actually offered but I feel this package was at least equal to what the Astros received.

Should the Dodgers have said yes if this was on the table?

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The problem is the Dodgers don’t have anyone that compares to Happ, at least superficially. Ely and McDonald don’t have his “track record,” and Bills is too good and wouldn’t be traded.

by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions

Villar is not as good as Gordon.

Villar is Gordon two years ago, Gose is Trayvon two years ago.

by Chad Moriyama on Jul 31, 2010 8:10 PM PDT reply actions

So, at least hypothetically, the Dodgers could have wound up with Oswalt? I certainly think so and that would feel much better than Lily and Dotel for this season only.

by kimo from kauai on Jul 31, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions

No

Not when Arizona and Houston insisted on a major league starting pitcher in return. Superficial or not, Saunders and Happ were seen as eminently more valuable than Ely, McDonald, et al.

by Eric Stephen on Aug 1, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions

I am afraid you are probably correct. The perception that Happ is a MLB ready SP was too much to overcome for LAD.

by kimo from kauai on Aug 1, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions

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C	17	Ellis	$500,000	team control
1B	7	Loney	$6,375,000
2B	14	Ellis	$2,500,000
3B	5	Uribe	$8,000,000
SS	9	Gordon	$485,000	team control
LF	21	Rivera	$4,000,000
CF	27	Kemp	$10,000,000
RF	16	Ethier	$10,950,000

IF/OF	6	Hairston	$2,250,000
OF	10	Gwynn	$850,000
2B/3B	3	Kennedy	$800,000
C	18	Treanor	$850,000
IF	12	Sellers	$485,000	team control

SP	22	Kershaw	$6,000,000
SP	58	Billingsley	$9,000,000
SP	29	Lilly	$12,000,000
SP	35	Capuano	$3,000,000
SP	44	Harang	$3,000,000

CL	54	Guerra	$485,000	team control
RHP	74	Jansen	$500,000	team control
RHP	55	Guerrier	$4,750,000
RHP	60	Coffey	$1,000,000
RHP	66	MacDougal	$650,000
LHP	57	Elbert	$485,000	team control
RHP	36	Hawksworth	$500,000	team control

TJ	41	De La Rosa	$485,000	team control

		Manny	$8,087,432	deferred
		Andruw	$3,375,000	deferred
		Pierre	$3,050,000	deferred
		Furcal	$3,000,000	deferred
		Kuroda	$2,000,000	deferred
		Garland	$1,500,000	option buyout
		Blake	$1,250,000	option buyout

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33	John Grabow lhp	33
59	Angel Guzman rhp	30
47	Wil Ledezma lhp	31
72	Shane Lindsay rhp	27
62	Fernando Nieve rhp	29
73	Scott Rice lhp	30
70	Will Savage rhp	27
71	Ryan Tucker rhp	25
28	Jamey Wright rhp	37

30	Josh Bard c	34
82	Griff Erickson c	24
81	Matt Wallachc	26
67	Jeff Baisley 3b/1b	29
65	Luis Cruz ss/2b	28
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