Billingsley Looks To Extend Scoreless Streak Against Giants
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:16 AM PDT
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Chad Billingsley get the ball on short rest today, as the Dodgers take on the Giants in the second game of their series at AT&T Park. Since giving up three home runs in the first two innings on Memorial Day to Arizona, Billingsley has thrown 55 2/3 innings without allowing another home run. He also has a current streak of 15 consecutive scoreless innings.
Barry Zito gets the call for the Giants, making his fourth start against the Dodgers this season. In the previous three starts, he has given up a total of five runs in 20 2/3 innings (a 2.18 ERA), but the Dodgers have managed to win all three games.
The trade deadline will hit right before the game starts, so I'm sure news will break between now and then. The White Sox have asked about Manny Ramirez, the Dodgers are talking to the Cubs about Ted Lilly and (gulp) Ryan Theriot. Expect chaos in the next few hours.
Get your guesses in for Xeifrank's game simulation here.
Game Time: 1:10 p.m.
TV: Fox
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second?
start on short rest for chad?
not a fan of this idea whatsoever.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
Chad used to be a reliever. He should be fine.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
over/under
on how many outfield assists for the rest of the season?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
SI_JonHeyman
from exec trying for adam dunn: "the nats are tough to deal with.‘’ allegedly they brought up matt garza’s name (before no hitter)
Click on their name, and you will see their profile, which may have an email address displayed.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Looking at the Padres trade, I have no clue what St. Louis did. They get a ok starting pitcher and give up a really good outfielder. They downgrade their offense and dont add much at all to their staff. Really confusing.
they <3 john jay
also they need money so they dont have to give Pujols a 50% interest in the franchise
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude has a .465 BABIP. I hope they have fun with that regression.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny to Chisox?
Rosenthal: “It’s a halfcourt shot, but it’s still in the air: Source says #WhiteSox intend to make one more run at Manny today.”
We want Edwin! We want Edwin! Okay, maybe i just want Edwin.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Bob Nightengale's Twitter
#mlb #dodgers #white sox The White Sox have yet to even hear a counter-offer from Dodgers on Manny, let alone engage in talks. WS moving on. 2 minutes ago via web Retweeted by 1 person
allegedly there were 3 teams (at least) involved
Sox, Rays and a “mystery team”. So even if the Sox are done we could still move him
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Nightengale
The White Sox have yet to even hear a counter-offer from Dodgers on Manny, let alone engage in talks. WS moving on.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
GordonEdes
two and a half hours before the deadline, Red cSox source says club has "nothing major, maybe nothing minor’’ #trades
Woops
Irrelevant news, I thought it was Chicago sox
by Julio Nievas on Jul 31, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
12:26pm: The White Sox haven’t heard a counter-offer from the Dodgers on Manny, tweets USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, and the Sox are moving on.
11:35pm: The Dodgers asked the White Sox for Dayan Viciedo in exchange for Ramirez, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com on Twitter. The Manny market is heating up, according to Yahoo’s Tim Brown on Twitter. The Rays, White Sox and a mystery team are all involved. The Dodgers are considering dealing Manny, according to Brown, who explains that the Dodgers are not shopping him. The left fielder is said to be open to a trade.
Well, one source is lying.
nope
the recent news says “haven’t heard a counter offer” while the older news explicitly says the Dodgers asked for Viciedo
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
nope
the first one is am, got reported an hour ago or so
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Fox Sports:
“The White Sox wanted the Dodgers to pay all but $1 million of the approximately $6.7 million remaining on Ramirez’s contract and did not offer a player in return, according to a source with knowledge of the discussions.”
WHOA
dylanohernandez
Source: The #Angels and #Rays have also asked the #Dodgers about Manny Ramirez.
Lilly
KEN ROSENTHAL
Source: #Dodgers still trying to make Lilly/Theriot deal work. DeWitt would go to #Cubs if it happens, along with at least one other.
DONT DO IT DONT DO IT@
DONT FUCKIN DO IT!
by npurcell on Jul 31, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Booo
Rosenthal:
Source: #Dodgers still trying to make Lilly/Theriot deal work. DeWitt would go to #Cubs if it happens, along with at least one other.
Thank you for confirming the comment :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
check the middle line of Eric’s comment
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Right
Did you not read my comment, in which I typed “Rosenthal:”???
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
HOLY CRAP
Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Dodgers still trying to make Lilly/Theriot deal work. DeWitt would go to #Cubs if it happens, along with at least one other. #MLB
what tony horton tells me every time i do ab ripper
“I hate it…..BUT I LOVE IT!”
as I’m referring to the trade deadline.
PLEASE
Move Manny… Someone call Ned and make this happen..
Giants lineup
CF Torres
2B Sanchez
RF Huff
1B Posey
LF Burrell
3B Sandoval
SS Renteria
C Whiteside
P Zito
Does anyone else think
that acquiring Lilly and trading away Manny would be counterproductive and misleading? They want Lilly to help for this season but at the same time are giving away their best hitter.
makes sense if they think Manny can’t play the field often enough to be productive.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
If Manny can come back healthy and the Dodgers make up ground, we’ll be glad we have him. If he comes back healthy and the Dodgers still fade, he could bring more on the waiver wire. The key is whether Ned thinks he can come back healthy enough to play left field? If not, he goes today.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Manny Ramirez is the Dodgers best hitter. This is a fact
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
he's hitting over .320 this year when healthy...
still with decent power. Yes, he’s our best hitter when healthy
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
"When healthy"
He came off the DL for a total of 9.5 innings before going back on. He may never be able to run and play left again. Move him when you can..
Remember this team won a lot of games during his 50 game timeout with JP in left…Pods is JPish..
Remember this team won a lot of games during his 50 game timeout with JP in left…Pods is JPish..
A guy once survived jumping from a third story window. It doesn’t mean you keep jumping.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
i lol'd
A guy once survived jumping from a third story window. It doesn’t mean you keep jumping.
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
that means maybe he's not the most valuable player
but he is the BEST. HITTER. As in, the most talented hitter. The best offensive player. The best all around bat.
Just because he’s injured doesn’t mean he’s not the best hitter.
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
2010 Dodgers
Manny leads in OPS (.925); Furcal is second (.888)
Manny leads in wOBA (.396); Furcal is second (.390)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Which is why they are looking to trade him. But he is clearly their best hitter.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
bruce levine reports the lilly to dodgers deal is nearly complete. sounds like blake dewitt will becoming to the northside.
DeWitt, it’s been real. Dodgers treated you like garbage.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Cuz we gets a starter for 10 games and only give up like 4 years of a cost controlled league average 2nd baseman. Holler!
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
At least he’ll be closer to home, I guess.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
His Mom might.
I don’t like it either.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
getting lilly
just seems like another Blake-esque deal where Ned gives up cheap talent to get a player we can sign in the off-season.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Theriot to Dodgers because
McCourt wants to get in on some of that Jersey selling action. "huh huh, it says “the riot”
MLB Network
Just called Manny Ramirez the story of the day. SHESH!
so...
theriot costs more, controlled for less years, and is not as good as dewitt. Meanwhile, Lilly is going to be here for like 8 starts, not going to beoffered arb.
this has no rationalization to it.
we will finish 6 games back instead of 7
do u see?
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the second piece is a joke. That would be the only rationale.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I mean if they don’t want to deal Hellickson straight up, we’ll throw in J Mac. Wade Davis or Upton works too.
by oshea2002 on Jul 31, 2010 10:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
It makes sense that a trade may not happen today, but could in August since Manny will clear waivers with no problems.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
At that point, won't someone like the Chisox
put in a waiver claim?
if they do, they could be responsible for the remainder of his salary
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Peter Gammons
just set the world straight, “Manny isnt being traded!” *with passion
I like how if the Dodgers trade DeWitt
they will have purged their entire organizational thirdbase depth in 3 years.
Impressive feat.
and their starting third baseman
is 37 years old
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
what's the one thing we don't have that SD/SF have?
offensive players playing over their heads?
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
IT'S HAPPENING
jaysonst
#Cubs on verge of trading Ted Lilly to #Dodgers. All indications are that Ryan Theriot also going to LA in deal. #trades
dylanohernandez
Source: The #Dodgers are on the verge of acquiring Ted Lilly and Ryan Theriot.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The fact that Ned values Theriot pisses me the fuck off. Why the fuck would we want that no talent runt on the squad?
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Honest question…
Is DeWitt really an everyday 2nd baseman… I like him, and I won’t be happy to see him go, but are we over valuing our own guys?
Hes a cost controlled league average 2nd baseman. Hes not an AS, but he has a lot of value even without power.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
either way hes better than theriot and cheaper
dude makes like 400k
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe not
but Theriot is awful. At least DeWitt is an average offensive 2B. Theriot isn’t close to that
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Chris DeLuca
Dodgers had to take Theriot to get Lilly.
Including Theriot will seal Lilly-to-Dodgers deal from Chicago’s view. Dodgers are in a 1-horse race.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions
then say no, dumbass Ned! We’re 4.5 fucking games out! Ted Lilly will not solve that problem, you dumbfuck.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
if Lilly was signed through 2011
i could understand it. Not now
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
i have an idea then
get Maholm instead.
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
then don't do anything
we’re not making the playoffs just because we got Ted Fucking Lilly
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
i think it's DeJesus's to lose next year
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
since we're losing Dewitt
it’s not DeJesus’s job to lose. I guess that’s the rational. they wanted Dejesus in the bigs next year
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but like nate said, he seems to have lost his ability to take walks. which seriously lowers his value
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
2 more arb years
so we get to pay him $8-10 million in 2011-2012 :(
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Players always get a raise in arb, usually around 50%.
Worst case scenario is like $3.5/$5 for the two years.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
How often do bench
players who were starters the year before get a 50% raise?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 31, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
He has 412 PA, and $2.6 to $3.5 isn’t a 50% raise
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Now we wait and see who else we lost.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 10:58 AM PDT reply actions
ChadMoriyama
Question for those who like the proposed deal, do you think “championship” when you see those names exchanged? If not…
11 minutes ago, Tim Brown
Source: Just to be clear, the Angels are not in on Manny Ramirez. They are not the third team. Still White Sox and Rays…
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions
Come on Rays, make it happen
you need his bat, you really really really need his bat.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
HOLY SHIT
Ken_Rosenthal
#Cubs would get DeWitt, Class AA pitcher and possibly third player for Lilly/Theriot package. Not sure of financial exchange. #Dodgers #MLB
Please please please please be James Adkins or something crappy.
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
IF that's true have to assume Cubs are eating the money :-/
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Current pitcher at AA
31 James Adkins P R L 6’ 6" 230 11-26-1985 Active No
41 Rubby De La Rosa P R R 6’ 1" 170 03-04-1989 Active No
52 Javy Guerra P R R 6’ 0" 205 10-31-1985 Active Yes
30 Jon Huber P R R 6’ 2" 195 07-07-1981 Active No
43 Brent Leach P R L 6’ 5" 215 11-18-1982 Active Yes
23 Aaron Miller P L L 6’ 3" 200 09-18-1987 Active No
40 Justin Miller P R R 6’ 2" 190 08-02-1987 Active No
37 David Pfeiffer P L L 6’ 3" 190 08-17-1985 Active No
36 Timothy Sexton P R R 6’ 6" 185 06-10-1987 Active No
Kyle Smit P R R 6’ 3" 165 10-14-1987 Active No
34 Cole St. Clair P L L 6’ 5" 225 07-30-1986 Active No
21 Chris Withrow P R R 6’ 3" 195 04-01-1989 Active No
….Its going to be DeLa Rosa, isn’t it?
FUCKKKK MEEEEE
Better not be Withrow, Miller, Rubby
by Julio Nievas on Jul 31, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
If it's any of those guys we'll (the)riot
But I doubt it. Most of the other AA guys I don’t care about as much…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm kind of glad I'm leaving for backpacking trip tomorrow :-)
Offline for 6 days. I was worried about that but now I think it’s a good thing.
Keep fighting the fight fellas.
I’m pissed about losing DeWitt but am hopefully gonna forget about it for a few days.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Joel Sherman's Twitter
Lilly and Theriot for DeWitt — #Cubs to #Dodgers is done less than a minute ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by 5 people
@icantfuckingbelievehowstupidthisis
is reporting #lchristmas loading truck with pitchforks, looking for someone to share gas costs for trip to #moronnedcolletti ’s fucking hobbithole
death blow for this regime, just fucking beyond stupid, moderate upgrade in an area of strength for a team not going anywhere anyway and throwing a cheap useful player in the garbage, weakening an already pathetic offensive attack
#bit.ly.fuckfrankmccourtnedcollettiandjoetorre
(still a little bit of the optimist in me hoping all these twits are unfounded rumor)
by lchristmas on Jul 31, 2010 11:05 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Phil
I’m just going to run your story on the Lilly deal, with updated trade parameters once it goes down.
Here I was all copacetic about getting Lilly
who I llked.
But the parameters of this trade blew that all out of thw ater.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Lilly and Theriot for DeWitt — #Cubs to #Dodgers is done 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by 14 people
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Joel Sherman
i think i'm gonna go bang my head against a wall
until i can get stupid enough to see this from Ned’s point of view
Ned can only take part of the blame some or most of the problem is the lack of funds available from the ownership he can only work with the tools made available for him
Now *THAT* I'd be on board with.
Are you just dreaming aloud or is there something out there about that?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
well i read somewhere
that the dbacks were high on theriot and wanted him for johnson. Im looking for silver linings.
How can the Dodgers trade a useful part (Dewitt) for a rental that wont help the team get to the playoffs anyway?
Just awful.
Padres made a helluva deal.
Cardinals putting alot of faith in Jon Jay as well.
What was the Padres deal?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
They got Ludwick, great move for them, think the Cardinals screwed the pooch
thinking Westbrook will help or that Jay is a right fielder.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahhhh just saw that. Prospects any good?
Oh well. I’m not sure that’s a deal that is a clear win for anyone, but helps Padres most on the surface.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I'm still confused on that deal
St. Louis sooo lost.
by Julio Nievas on Jul 31, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Their still is hope
Like everyone else I don’t like the idea of shipping DeWitt in the Lilly trade, but we all know why it happened and until McCourt leaves or the Dodgers are sold we will continue to see moves like this……However, the Dodgers still have some control over their potential Wild Card chances:
6 against the Phils, 3, against the Cincy, 8 against the Giants and 10 against the Pods.
Stark
Deal done. #Cubs sending Lilly & Theriot to Cubs for Blake DeWitt & minor lgers Brett Walch & Kyle Smit. LA also gets $2.5M.
Correction by Stark
JAYSON STARK
Prospect going to Cubs is pitcher Brett Wallach, not Walch. Deadline Day Typo
Is Brett the catcher or the pitcher??
If he’s the pitcher I’m still pissed, but not as much.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Tyler Kepner on the Trade
Don’t let Lilly’s 3-8 record fool you. He’s been steady for the Cubs, allowing no more than three earned runs in 12 of his last 15 outings. He joins a rotation with Clayton Kershaw, Vicente Padilla, Chad Billingsley and Hiroki Kuroda – a strong group of starters as the Dodgers try to make up a seven-game deficit in the N.L. West.
Second baseman Ryan Theriot has steady declined since 2008, but he’s not bad, and he has a lot more experience as an everyday player than Blake DeWitt. And we all know that experience means a lot to the Dodgers’ manager, Joe Torre.
As you are barfing
Theriot has 132 more AB’s than Dewitt in that period of time, Dewitt has 5 more doubles, 2 more triples, HR’s are the same, 11 more BB’s, and SLG is 25 points higher. Remember that Theriot plays in a far more hitter friendly ballpark!
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