Dodgers / Giants Game 2 Chat
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 12:45 PM PDT
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PrintLos Angeles Dodgers at San Francisco Giants, Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT
Here are the lineups:
| Dodgers | Giants | |||
| LF | Podsednik |
CF | Torres | |
| SS | Furcal | 2B | F.Sanchez |
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| CF | Kemp | RF | Huff |
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| 3B | Blake |
1B | Posey | |
| 1B | Loney |
LF | Burrell | |
| C | Martin | 3B | Sandoval | |
| RF | Anderson |
SS | Renteria | |
| 2B | Carroll |
C | Whiteside |
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| P | Billingsley |
P | Zito | |
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oh my
how much anger did you have last year when we trded for sherril?
what about when we traded for casey blake…
those were far worse trades
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't understand how good Santana was in 08, and we were chasing a bad D'Backs team in a weak NL West division.
In 09, we tried to shore up a great bullpen and try to beat the Phillies using lefties.
Obviously both trades did not had to be made, but in context somewhat justifiable.
This trade is just retarded and shows Colletti’s weaknesses as a GM. For the fuck trades for Ryan Theriot? Who?
you need to get over the ryan theriot thing
we traded for ted lilly… ryan theriot was a throw in and a stop gap at 2nd base
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
the point is the upgrade is tiny and the team is too far back
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but ned wants everyone to think we are in it to win it
he doesnt want us to think we gave up
by matthewmafa on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, which makes it a PR move only. That’s why people are pissed
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
After you simmer down, maybe it won’t look so bleak
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
DeWitt’s got a 1.1 WAR advantage over Theriot, that’s probably not much different than Lilly and Ely adjusted for suckitutde.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh what fun
Probably a couple of days of Anderson starting in place Ethier. Theriot will be here in time to start tomorrow against Matt Cain
You have to like Torre using the “missing man” formation at second. It’s a touching farewell.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I like it. We failed with 3 men at 2nd the other day. Might as well try it with zero. This is why I like Torre. Always willing to try strange things…
Giants
With the lack of action from the Gaints maybe we have a chance of catching them for the Wild card spot
or central
Reds aren’t going anywhere
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ken_Rosenthal
#Dodgers get Dotel. For Lamb and McDonald. #Pirates #MLB
by silverwidow on Jul 31, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
mcdonald as a reliever is as good as dotel!!!
and lambo well ya idk if hes realy a big loss considering how many good outfield prospects we have..
I will be on in a few minutes
Ouch
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If money was not an issue
we got the best 5th starter in baseball and replaced one second baseman with glaring holes for another 2nd baseman with glaring holes. If the Dodgers had any chance at all for a playoff spot I’d love this trade. Whatever Roit gives up in OB he might gain back in defense. Not sure how Roit’s 2nd base defense is, but he’s a SS now playing 2nd base so I’m just going to go out on a limb and say his range will be a hell of a lot better then DeWitt’s.
Anyway, I’ve always been a big Lilly fan, glad he’s on the team, hope he enjoys pitching in Dodger Stadium. Ned is simply not a fan of our infield prospects moving Bell, DeWitt, Abreu within a 12 month period.
Some posters have pointed out that the Padres improved with trading anyone in their top 10 prospects but we gave up a major league 2nd baseman. If DeWitt was a prospect would he be any higher then 10th? Seems to me he would be rated right along Xavier Paul. Seems to me if you have the power the DeWitt has you simply have to be a great defensive 2nd to make up for it and he ain’t that guy.
Time to get over the trade and get ready to for Aug/Sep baseball.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
by Phil Gurnee on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
“Time to get over the trade”? First of all, it just happened. Secondly, they’re both stupid trades (the Dotel one taking the stupid cake), which at best marginally improve the team and don’t in ANY way address the team’s glaring weakness, which is offense. Thirdly, they’re giving away cheap and valuable players for high priced rentals who we’re not even going to consider offering arbitration to, so we’ll get nothing in return when they leave, in order to re-arrange the deck chairs for a season in which, depending on which playoff odds site you prefer, we have about a 5-10% chance of even reaching the playoffs in the first place.
Yeah, I hope the moves end up somehow magically paying off, but it seems pretty dumb looking at it right now, and in light of the past couple of weeks of frustration, it’s the bow on the package of annoying futility that the Dodgers have become.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 31, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Dejan Kovacevic reports that Octavio Dotel will make $3.25 M in 2010, with a $4.5 M option in 2011. That option includes a $250 K buyout.
Read more: Octavio Dotel contract details | Pirates Prospects http://www.piratesprospects.com/2010/01/octavio-dotel-contract-details.html#ixzz0vIAGp7PG
If you are giving up Lambo/McDonald...you have to pick that up..
Jansen
Kuo
Dotel
Broxton
Thats a really good bullpen.
Colletti’s goin the Padres route..
plus
when belisario returns and monk being pushed to the pen. we have a good pitching staff now.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
If the Dodgers pick up Dotel's option
$4.5 million? Maybe they decline and pay the buyout.
Then it don’t look so good.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They paid Sherrill that
so I could seem them paying Dotel that. Or they could trade Dotel this winter. We do have a hell of a bullpen at the moment.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
And people called me mad for thinking 2011 was gonna suck
MAD! THEY CALLED ME MAD!
The Omar Moreno of this blog
I hate this team. Seriously. Why.
WHO THE FUCK GOES ALL IN FOR THIS TEAM?
Last year’s team was much better, and they didn’t go all in for that one.
by Tripon on Jul 31, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
+ a billion
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think BlogTalkRadio is one of those sites that will let anybody run a podcast, as long as you pay the fee.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
I am on hold right now; I think they are having technical issues
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF!
These new bastards better do something. Had I known I would have goodbye to Blake last night. Go Dodgers.
by Skunkburner on Jul 31, 2010 1:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Might have helped our horrible defense
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Well you asked how did we improve the defense so that seems like an
obvious answer, so how can you ask “how”?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
idk
what does it matter….
i was wondering why u thought our defense got better…
maybe cause lilly and dotel strike out batters and thats less balls in play…
so what does it matter why i asked how
So on the positive side of the world.. Our pitching staff has been solidified… But how will we score runs???
In a way, the trades have changed nothing
The point on which the 2010 playoffs turn is this: Are Ethier and Kemp gonna hit and will Manny be healthy? If the answers are yes, the Dodgers have a good shot, and if no, they don’t.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
But if they do
having Lilly and Dotel will make it easier. Would you rather Ned bet that our offense will forever be in the crapper and not have anything ready for when it comes around?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Sort of, yes
Like I’ve been saying all along, the 2011 situation makes it very tricky. You can’t buy for a marginal playoff team at the expense of the future when the next two years are so dicey. The upgrade of Lilly and Dotel helps, sure. But they aren’t the difference in the playoffs if the core doesn’t hit.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
But if the core does start hitting in the last 60 games
we are going to be happy we have Lilly going every fifth game, and Dotel there to get the ball to the best back end bullpen in baseball right now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Like I say, it’s complicated. Sure, the trades make the Dodgers marginally better in ‘10. But (a) it’s coming at a time when playoff hopes are hanging by slim threads, and (b) the trades make the 2011-12 teams worse. I wouldn’t have made them, but Ned can have the last laugh if the offense comes around in August-September and the team gets back in the race.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers trade Marty Lamb?
Marty Lamb is the 2007 Dodgers Dugout/LADugout.com Scout of the Year, the 22nd scout so honored in an award started in 1986. Chad Billingsley, Cory Wade, Bryan Morris, Preston Mattingly and James Adkins have all been scouted and signed by Lamb over the past four years.
First trade for a scout! The Dodgers want to do something historical!
by Tripon on Jul 31, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
they said one of two
waiting for confirmation of the 2nd
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
mcdonald for dotel
5 more years of a bullpen mcdonald..
vs 2 years of 4 million dotel
mcdonald in the bullpen is a really good pitcher
mcdonald i think
he’s struggled, but his last outing was great
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah mcdonald.
the mets series (despite the hold) he was real bad.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
So we have 2 players on the bench not counting backup catcher, and with Jmac going we are one short in the pen Too
I am still a big believer in MacDonald.
This is going to bite us hard.
So who the hell is in our rotation next year?
Right now, John Ely is our #3 starter. How has he been the last month in AAA? And what’s the free agent scrap heap market look like for 2011?
Who cares, we just spent our free agent budget on Dotel and Theriot.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
OFFICIAL
dylanohernandez
The #Dodgers acquired Octavio Dotel from the #Pirates for James McDonald and Andrew Lambo.
are you talking about the trade or McDonald’s 8.22 era?
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
ya wouldve been nice to keep him
but oh well
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
Wonder how he’d get along with Buck if he makes it to the MLB?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
oh good
those 500 hours of lawyering needed paying.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck you colletti
Lambo
Jeff Fletcher JeffFletcherAOL
Official: Dodgers acquire Octavio Dotel for james McDonald and Andrew Lambo. #dodgers #pirates
I fucking hate Ned
He’s a piece of shit moron. Fuck off, asshole (ned, not you, lol).
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Lose this game
kiss our playoffs hopes goodbye :(
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
McDonald
I figured McDonald would get traded. It didn’t seem like Torre had faith in him at all. We weren’t ever going to give him a fair chance and im glad he will get a fair chance with the Pirates….. However I think this is a horrible trade because McDonald can do just as well out of the bullpen as Dotel and can be a good starter if we were patient enough to give him some innings. Add in Lambo and this is on par with Santana trade
This trade made us better in 2010, which is more than I can say for the Lilly trade.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, half a win. I’m just of sick of watching McDonald groove fastballs so I’m probably not as upset about this as I should be.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Lambo and thought his year last year was better than it looked, but he’s done nothing this year and could eat another massive drug suspension soon.
The worst part to me is that we don’t have much money to play with next year, and we’re gonna throw a big chunk of that at Octavio Dotel. There should have been lessons learned about giving four million to a reliever.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't think having Lilly every fifth
game instead of Monk/McDonald/Ely did not make us better? Maybe not playoff better but certainly better?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
We’re better from the trade, but by fractions of a win at best.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you hated Marlon and Belliard too
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
plus
monasterios in the pen will be good, espiecially on nights when we can’t use jansen/kuo/brox.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Is there a history of relievers with strike out rates of four doing anything?
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL is that his k rate?
okay maybe not but he hasn’t been terrible either.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
And why does a marginal improvement in 2010 matter at all?
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 31, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch him decline.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
oh joy
so we may have given up Lambo and McDonald for literally no reason
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Same Laundry you've been cheering for all year
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not, I don't understand the question.
You can only root for a team who is quitting or dominating?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
More like rooting for a team that understands that planning for the future is just as vital for planning for the present.
So
what, you give up on baseball now? Root for the Angels? My cousin’s little league team?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Means that I might need to take a break from baseball from a while. Watching baseball and the Dodgers are supposed to be soothing and relaxing. It hasn’t been that way for me in a while.
yeah, but when you’re all stirred up like this it let’s you know you’re alive!
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
we’ll leave the light on for ya
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand this. After the Lilly trade was announced I called one of my friends and bitched and said that I probably won’t watch them anymore this year. But what am I doing right now listening to the game and following on the blog. Why? Because I like baseball and my favorite baseball team is the LA Dodgers.
by vadodger on Jul 31, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+10 experience
+5 love
level up
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
What the Dodgers just did was what the Astros have been doing the past 2 or 3 years before they completely crapped out this year. its stupefying and only delaying the eventuality that you need to close up shop for the year.
Your hyperbole is stupefying
we did not deal one top 10 prospect, not one player other then DeWitt who had a future here. We may have problems with our future but it won’t be because of any of these deals.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Let's hope lastnight was good enough to break LA out of this hitting funk
I wouldn’t say today is a must win now is as good as ever to start a good run
Maybe Elbert decided to leave so he wouldn't get traded, lolz
by ElbertFan on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What’s up with the interview?
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
They never came to me after like 10 minutes so I hung up. Probably technical problems.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
No, he's in AZ, his home is there, supposedly he has been working out at the training
, his home is there, supposedly he has been working out at the training
Your boy Elbert helped put us in this
predicament by sucking and quitting so it not like we have any love for him right now.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Never give up anything substantive for relievers.
Fickle, easy to find. WTF WTF
Well it looks like McDonald is a relief pitcher
so that is one for one and Lambo looks like a poor excuse for a corner outfielder or 1st baseman.
All in all the Dodgers did not touch anyone of their top 10 prospects so those claiming the future is over because of these deals are simply dealing with hyperbole.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It’s not that the future is over, it’s that this trade is stupid and pointless. McDonald is a young, cheap relief pitcher who is probably as good as Dotel, so we traded him, PLUS a prospect, poor excuse or not, for an expensive, old relief pitcher. Tell me how that makes any sense.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 31, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Why couldn't we add one more prospect
and get Maholm too?
Is it only my non-HD tv...
Or is the box containing the score and the inning etc. pretty much unable to be seen right now?
Day games at AT&T
are quite nice. Like sitting at the beach and watching baseball
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Dotel has only allowed runs in his appearances twice (3 runs total) in his last 16 appearances
Broxton, Kuo, Jansen, Dotel, sounds good…if Belisario comes back it’s even stronger in the end of the rotation
Lambo for Dotel
fucking great. Not as though Lambo was doing anything since his suspension, but still.
Gotta love being a Dodger fan today…
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
At least you didn't take
Maholm and Dotel for Gordon and Sands?
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by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Jul 31, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey
we made $3 million this trade deadline.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
FMcCourtMalibu:
That’s 3,000 lawyer hours!
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
So,
if we take the sum total of all the prospects we traded and you’re telling me we couldn’t have gotten a 5 or 6 for 1 of Haren or Oswalt?
We just mortgaged the bulk of our future in the last 2 hours, boys and girls.
What a disaster our front office is.
Really
the bulk of the future.
I think you could move Lambo out of the top ten right now, Dewitt and McDonald are not exactly better than league average.
Did we though? We got out with Withrow, Gordon, Sands, and really any prospect we actually like.
Exchanging DeWitt for Theriot was fucking awful but other than that this is nothing lost, a little gained.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Heck, if DeJesus can replace DeWitt and we dump Dotel we’re basically right back at where we started.
I can’t say I’m happy about these deals, but this is nowhere near the Santana and Sherrill moves.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
...
to think. we would be one of the few that have an offensive catcher _;
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
This is first time in at least 2 years
No one in the top ten (if you move Lambo out) was moved during the trade deadline.
If Dotel isn't in the '11 bullpen
it gets a lot worse.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m anti paying any reliever four million that isn’t Broxton.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Then the Dodgers have given up Lambo and McDonald for nothing.
And sure, I can self-rationalize that Lambo has big question marks about his makeup, and McDonald is just a middle reliever….
….but if Dotel isn’t around next year, they were given up for nothing.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You keep sounding off like this as though the next 60 games don't matter.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
You’re right. I should tone it down.
That said, I’m not hopeful about the team’s chances this year, so I’m frustrated by the idea that so much was given up for the next 60 games.
The Omar Moreno of this blog
by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re right. They have about a 10% chance of mattering.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 31, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Very true. I guess that’s why you don’t trade for Octavio Dotel.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really. I’m trying to be kind of optimistic here that we aren’t throwing 8 million at Theriot and Dotel next year and blowing our budget.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
DeJesus will never start for the Dodgers more then 50 games
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Can’t I just try to wish Theriot to the cornfield for a bit?
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
what why not
whats the difference between him and dewitt?
Bell was a top 40 prospect this year.
Lambo sure as hell won’t be.
by regfairfield on Jul 31, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Nicely said, sums up my thoughts anyway.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Having/signing more draft picks lends to development in the future?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How can Colletti be so god damned stupid?
I swear to god this is the worst trade deadline I have ever seen in my life.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Get the feeling that Ned flipped out and
went with the some action is better than no action rampage.
Today totally comes across as a “don’t just stand there, DO something!” kind of day. Sigh.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 31, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Eric Karros
just put Huff ’n Stuff in the same category of Albert Pujols and A Gon
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
check his stats
i laughed too but Huff is having a hell of a year
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
A year doth not
a career make
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
he's talking MVP race though
which is just for a single season. Career stats should mean a thing for an MVP
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I must've
missed that sentence. The Jints make the playoffs, yeah, you gotta consider him for MVP
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Final verdict
Well, the rotation is better at the five-spot, the pen is better, the offense is probably about the same, and ultimately it still comes down to Manny getting healthy and Ethier/Kemp/Blake stepping it up. Let’s hope that starts with Blake and Kemp at least today.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions
fo sho son.
the good news is that we KNOW our offense can be beast. at least now we have a damn good pitching staff. COME THE FUCK ON OFFENSE, we need you now. i really do have renewed hope but that can easily go away in a week.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Time for me to kill people on Call of Duty
I need SOMETHING to take out my anger and frustration >:(
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
No matter how mad I get at this clusterfuck of a season, seeing the Giants GIDP still makes me smile.
YES
ned is the best gm
he did not trade sands withrow gordon martin eovaldi or any top pitching prospects..
and most of of trayvon robinson
Are you fucking kidding me?
Ned is a fucking idiot. Yay he didn’t trade our very top prospects, score. We traded Lambo, Jmac, Dewitt, Wallach, Pimental, May, and Smit for Dotel, Lilly, Theriot, and Podsednik…this is terrible.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes we traded middling prospects for midling players
but thank g-d we didnt trade our future great players for these scrubs
Wow, you are so glass half full I might have to throw up
Dotel is long past his prime, and Mcdonald could have been just as good had we given him a chance in the BP like last year (oh wait, Mcdonald WAS better than Dotel in the bullpen last year, great to know). Lambo was having a tough year but still was only 21 or 22 and in AA. Wallach and Pimental were both doing really good, and could have been back end starters for us in the future.
No matter how you look at the last week, it’s covered in shit from Ned.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Jul 31, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i didnt say the trades were good
you always misunderstand..
all im saying is thank g-d ned didnt trade top end talent for theese scrubs..
lke santana and bell for sherrill and blake
you are a poster that is always very quick to insult and take it to another level sometimes..
You're defending him for not trading away our top prospects
No, you’re saying “he’s the best gm” for not trading away our top prospects. He made bad trades, yet he’s a good gm because we didn’t give away our best ones, only a few good ones. THIS LOGIC IS AWFUL.
I really don’t give a crap about your last sentence, you made a dumb statement, I whole-heartedly disagree and told you why. Maybe you should get over it.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Jul 31, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
not really
that line was a joke about the bell and santna deals..
you take everything to another level
Like I said, get the fuck over it.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
by Ivdown on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, you get the fuck over it and quit taking these to that level that Matthew
is talking about. Either get off the board or get civil.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I Agree
MacDonald – who knows how he’ll turn out? Same for Lambo.
Both were classic “change of scenery” candidates, in my opinion. At least Ned did not trade our best prospects – I’m grateful for that.
by wonderphenom on Jul 31, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
theriot plays 3b right
lol we suck
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
we shouldn't be laughing...
considering we’re hoping opposing hitters will strike out on Lilly’s 85mph fastballs
lilly's a pop fly pitcher.
he will fit right in at dodger stadium, don’t know how he made his career at wrigley.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
wrigleys wind is blowing in most of the time thats why
in the days it was going out.. he was hammered
i see.
well i honestly think he will be really good at dodger stadium. the problem is, he will probably continue to have the second worse run support lol.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
I am a big fan of Dotel. I can’t say I was thrilled with the price, but I do really like the back end of the bullpen right now.
They're both flawed players, but Lambo wasn't going to beat out Sands and Robinson for jobs in the OF.
Elbert might be bullpen material all said and done.
might??
he is at best bullpen material..
Dotel’s age bothers me.
And I’m bummed that Lambo/McDonald werent able to garner more. Those two a couple years ago were big time prospects.
His age
and the fact that he now has a mutual option on ‘11. If he opts out, or if the Dodgers decline him, then it’s a useless trade.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Lambo's suspension
has to garner concerns about his makeup and McDonald is AAAA guy at least as a starter, if all he turns out to be is a MR, than really is it big deal.
Does someone have the 2010 book handy? What was Lambo this year?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
i find it amusing that BA
ranks Gordon as the best defensive infielder in our system
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Ba says Bs on that stuff
i remember elbert had the best curve on the year where the only pitches he threw were fastball slider… and he also had the best cangeup.. yet he never threw one
of course
this shows the volatility of prospects too. it’s not just relievers
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn’t ranking of prospects really depend on whom you ask? I mean do all scouts say the same thing about the players?
I did a survey of Baseball America, Sickels, Baseball HQ and TBLA readers
And there really isn’t much disagreement of the best ones in the system
Dodgers not making it awful hart on Zito but taking a few pitches here and there
Still hoping for some breakout offense the 2nd time through the lineup. But maybe I’m naive…
Wow
being a bro sure comes with a ton of rules
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Money
how much did we spend on the trades… we took on all of Pod which was alittle less than 2 mill i think…. about 2 million in the lilly/theriot trade…. and im not sure about Dotel…. Do we have any money to temp Zach Lee
All in all I think we added about $3.7 million in total.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
How's the quality of the weed in Pittsburgh?
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Is Pittsburgh a port town?
Weed quality always goes up around ports, large open fields
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not great, but Primanti Bros. is open 24 hrs. for those late night munchies.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
Just asking for Lambo's sake.
I’ll pass it on.
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Back end of the Dodgers bullpen looks good enough now …
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Least we're not the Royals
The Royals extended manager Ned Yost through 2012, tweets Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star.
are you serious?
the royals are the team of the future…
go look at their farm system…. they are stacked in almost every position especially SP
moustakous willmake them forget about him
plus gordon is back up now and playing OF… just hit a 3 run walk off homer yesterday when they were down 2
they have like 7 top 100 prospects
four top 30
hosmer moustakous montgomery lamb
are all top 30…
first three are top 15
that's ridiculous.
let’s give them taschner and sherrill for them.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
who gives a fuck?
in 2006 the dodgers had NINE
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/features/060222top100b.html
yeah but most of these are end of top 100
all these players in the royals look like future superstars
Matthew's use of superstars is over the top
but Mous and Monty look good, but then again so did Gordon so we never know but as far as ratings go, they have the guys.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
What are arguing about
KC does have a great system right now, why does that bother you? Haven’t they earned it by being so bad?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Having the first pick in the draft almost every year will do that for you, too...
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bills is having a great fucking start
after 3 days rest. 22 pitches through 2, keep this up!
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
iridescent
doesn’t mean what that scriptwriter thought it meant. Maybe he meant incandescent?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
fucking shinny
is that better?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry
isn’t it great that I’m more bitter about the state of the English Language than the state of the Dodgers?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
$3.7 million
could that have gotten Lee or did he want north of 5 million
I've been anti-signing Lee
ever since I found out that he could take the money, say sayonara, and go to LSU and play football.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No, minor leaguers can quite anytime
and retain the bonus.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The bonus
would probably be tied to him making trips to play short-season rookie ball in June and July.
Not that he wouldn’t get some of it but those multi-sport bonuses are spread out over a 4-5 year time frame.
If he signs and then skips out?
Yes, Dodgers would retain his baseball rights. But if he goes and plays football, no. (Dodgers don’t play football. :-)…)
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
oh okay yes..
i agree… high .800 ops with over .400 obp, just ridiculous. it just makes it so hard that sherrill sucks dog dick this year :(
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
meanwhile back on the farm
It’s nil nil going into the third.
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Chad Moriyama = kensai = main writer, site owner of Memories of Kevin Malone
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He might think so in comparison to what was dealt
The Dodgers top player in that deal does not equal Saunders nor Smoak as MLB player right now.
In his dreams
1. failed starter, relief pitcher
2. Powerless, defenseless 2nd baseman
3. Pot Head who can’t hit anyway
4. Low A pitcher, number four in his rotation
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I don’t agree, since there isn’t a major league starting pitcher in that bunch, which like it or not, is what Arizona and Houston wanted.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed. That's a dream.
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thats ridiculous
no it couldnt have…
not of those prospects are even top 100… or top ten in the ddgers system
and dewitt aint a game changer…
pick him up dodgers
he has pick well in dodger blue only syndrome
I would pick him up
for the nostalgia alone
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
i'll always love park.
i have faith he’ll do well in dodger blue again as well.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Eric Karros says the Dodgers were lifeless and had to inject some life into them with these trades
I don’t completely disagree. Just don’t see all these moves as necessarily a fix for that.
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I completely disagree. I think that’s horrible logic for a trade.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
A big bat in the lineup will create the missing spark
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's the thing, does getting older players for young players really add energy to the team?
It’s too simplistic an analysis. I understand teh Dodgers trying to say we’re still in this and making moves but these moves don’t scream out “energize!”
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Karros projecting his own inner battles?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Karros
is a former player and you hear this lot from around this time, the last time from Lowe on how the clubhouse perks up when they see the front office adding players.
Of course based on what Eric notices, it seems players seem to self-absorbed to notice this stuff.
Fuck..
Get these guys some fucking Greenies or something. Total joke
I didnt get to vent this mourning.. I was sleeping off bad times. Neds a dick.
New attitude comin' up
1) I don’t like these trades, but
2) If the Dodgers make the playoffs, all is forgiven
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dylanohernandez
Colletti said he felt he could afford to move Lambo because of the youth of Ethier and Kemp, the presence of XPaul and emergence of Sands.
D'oh, seconds too slow.
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does that mean
they’re planning on spending money to keep those two (Kemp and Ethier)
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
A bright side
dylanohernandez
Colletti said he felt he could afford to move Lambo because of the youth of Ethier and Kemp, the presence of XPaul and emergence of Sands.
Bright side: JERRY SANDS WAS NOT TRADED. Woo hoo!
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Yeah it;s obvious the Dodgers had soured on Lambo.
I sure had.
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Karros
“This team for all intents and purposes, is built around Manny”
this is true
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Yeah
so uh, why don’t we start our analysis from there? The Dodgers built around Manny, not Andre. Manny died. So now everything’s crazy.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't the strength before the season
our now underachieving core and a supposedly rock solid bullpen that unraveled? Not Manny.
It's what made us a good team
which we still are. Not like we’re a 500 teams. But the plan for scoring runs, was Manny.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, FWIW, I was looking at the season for big time Andre and Kemp and
good but not great Manny.
’twas big time as long as Manny was in the lineup?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Sort of. It was the developing core, the rock solid ’pen, and the superstar who probably would give you only 120 games or so.
A lot has gone wrong.
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Nedfail
#mlb #dodgers GM Ned Colletti says he believes Manny will remain with team for rest of year.
I really liked that White Sox trade proposal
for the good young player. Knew that was too good to be true.
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Dodgers salary additions with trades
Podsednik $640,710
Lilly $4,196,721
Theriot $909,290
Dotel $1,136,612
$$$ from Cubs ($2,500,000)
$$$ from Pirates ($500,000)
DeWitt’s salary ($143,388)
McD + reliever (~$279,781; estimated 2 at min salary)
Total additions: approximately $3,442,164
give or take about $140k, if you want to account for Taschner also being gone.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m surprised that much was actually added.
Though I am down on Dotel because he’s so old, I know how good he can be, so at least we have someone to go along with Jansen-Kuo-Broxton now. When Beli gets back this will be one hell of a bullpen. The rotation is also pretty damn good now. We’ll see if it leads anywhere.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Dotel has pitched in 9 full seasons, and had a double digit K rate in every single one.
10.8 K/9 this year.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Just
Need
A
Bat
Manny back in 7-10 days????
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
This trade deadline has made me think that the national baseball media should be totally discredited.
The national baseball media is not invested on reporting on the minors. All they know is MLB players, so why would they care that minor leaguers are being traded?
I understand that, but people on MLB Network were saying things like the Dodgers main weakness was pitching. Nobody who was paying attention to the team would have said that.
bullpen**
which is true. offense is a huge problem but we know how good they can be. but again, that fact that they haven’t been that good is a huge problem.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Is there truth to the idea that tired pitchers actually have better stuff on breaking pitches?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, I have no idea.
I have heard that for sinker ballers, with a “heavier” ball.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember hearing something about that with Derek Lowe back when he was a Dodger
For his sinker.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
I’ll ask Kensai, he’d have an opinion on that
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
From Kensai
Depends how he throws it, but yes it can help, in my opinion. Can’t explain why on Twitter.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Ted Lilly will face Mat Latos Tuesday night.
New matchups:
Kuroda vs. Richard
Lilly vs. Latos
Padilla vs. LeBlanc
Bills vs. Correia
said 7-10 days earlier in this broadcast
but who knows really?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
"Brian Sabean...one of the best GM's"
For serious?
him and Ned
are like two peas in a very cozy pod
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ned said that he expects Manny back in 7-10 days and that there is only one offer for him and that it was a non starter
i loved that offer.
it made the dotel one a bit disappointing lol, fucking tease.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Sorry if this was mentioed earlier but the Giants traded for Ramon Ramirez
for Joe Martinez (who I wasn’t that high on) and Bowker (who seemed pretty decent). Kind of a meh trade to help their pen…
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Buster_ESPN
Observation: Love what the Dodgers did before the deadline. They clearly helped the team without giving up a lot.#trades
That means more to me than what Buster thinks
fwiw…
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According to the Nat. Media
as long as you don’t give up major leaguers, you don’t give up a lot. Prospects don’t count as people
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to see what the other options were
per Dylan Hernandez:
Colletti said that the Dodgers could have acquired Lilly without parting ways with DeWitt.
Certainly would have meant better prospects, but I still think the Cubs wanted DeWitt, and Ned said “OK, but we have to get Theriot in the deal.”
DeWitt or Ivan DeJesus
this is what i means by we chose to trade DeWitt rather than DeJesus. If my theory is true i am happy we kept Ivan DeJesus over DeWitt. He might be able to start half way through next year.
So thumbs up or down on the Giants trade?
Or thumbs “meh.”
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Blake's veteran presence
is meaningless if he can’t get hits
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
I guess the Vet in Blake
misinterpreted the infield fly rule
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Dotel is a lot better than Park right now imho.
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Thoughts from Jay Jaffe on the Dodgers moves
http://www.futilityinfielder.com/wordpress/2010/07/the-lilly-deal.shtml
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It is July 31st
and Blake has 40 rbis. I know RBIs dont tell you much about a player, if anything, but that, to me, is screaming that Blake can’t hit with runners on base. I haven’t checked, but I’m guessing Kemp and Ethier aren’t all that much higher in RBIs.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
RBI
66 Loney
59 Ethier
57 Kemp
40 Blake
39 Ramirez
38 Furcal
(30 DeWitt)
24 Martin
14 Belliard
13 Carroll
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish Blake wasn't useless on offense
But he is.
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by Ivdown on Jul 31, 2010 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
As a Vet
I think he knows what a ball is. Will have to check
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Blake is done
Maybe Theriot should be at 3B when he gets here
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
I dont
but Blake may not be any better
In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened
Defensively he's'a lot better
Offensively no but on defense it’s a big trade off….
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And next year DeWitt can play ---
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by Humma Kavula on Jul 31, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Furcal! What was the point of that?
Sigh
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depends when he broke
if it’s a double steal then he gets one
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
No steal by the trailing runner if the lead guy gets caught
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
really?
i didn’t know that. seems like a weird rule
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it's fielder's choice
where to throw. If he can get the lead, hypothetically, he coulda gotten the rear
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, I know
but, if all things stay the same, it’s still a DP, so whatever
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Eric's been sampling Humma's sadness gin?
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No you wouldn't
you be scared for the safety of your soul
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Cost controlled
And maybe with longshot upside as a starter
holy fuck
aubrey huff’s july numbers are unbelievable. as well as posey’s.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
I'm with MatthewMata
after two years of seeing the likes of Bell/Santana go I’m happy we still have everyone I really care about. I’ll miss DeWitt, I’ve been rooting for him for years and wish him well in Chicago. I’m only sorry that Elbert was not dumped.
I would not have made these deals, but since we did we have to hope the offense comes around, Manny stays healthy, and the Phillies/Giants don’t run away and hide from us. We won’t be able to do anything about the Phillies but we will have a say in the Padre’s and Giants.
In 20 days Ned can simply move Lilly/Manny/Casey/Dotel on waivers but in retrospect we were still to close to simply stand pat for a team who simply can’t give up on Aug 1st.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
I do like having 5 good starters right now, and the back end of the pen looks really nice.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
On Aug 1st
we have the best pitching staff in the Ned era in my opinion. Problem is still the offense and only Andre/Matt/Manny can save us there.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The only thing I disliked about the Lilly deal was the DeWitt/Theriot trade-off; that made me angry. But I do like having Lilly. If that makes sense.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm trying to catching up with the news
I don’t understand the Dewitt/Theriot trade either. Coletti apparently said that the Dodgers could have acquired Lilly without the Dewitt trade. So why do that part of the trade? Theriot is more versatile but older, more expensive and even less of a hitter.
What other prospects were the Cubs asking for if Dewitt didn’t come over?
I have to think without DeWitt the prospect cost for Lilly was too high for Colletti’s tastes.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
That was what I got
or it could be we could have taken all of Lilly’s contract thus once again fanning the “sold a player” debate.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Jesus!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't care on Aug 1st 2010
but it would not be hard to find someone better then Blake DeWitt.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Not one who can also play solid defense to make up for any difference in OPS
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
it’s all about now
worry about next year after divorce court …
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I like having Lilly and Dotel (the pen desperately needed an upgrade)
I still don’t like Theriot over DeWitt though. And don’t like losing McDonald either. But yeah the offense still needs to pick up or it doesn’t matter…
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like it or not
while I was close to giving up on this team, I now am rooting hard for us to come back just because I dont want all these deadline deals to go for naught, although I would have preferred we sold or held in the first place
and there is no reason to root for tanking to get a higher draft pick, because we wouldnt have the money to sign him anyway, basically, I guess Dodger fans are best served to always believe they are in the playoff race : )
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Btw I meant Javier Lopez in Giants trade with Pitt above, not Ramirez.
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Ramirez was acquired earlier...
thus the confusion.
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Boy that's some skilled outfielding out there from GA in RF
Sigh… at least Ethier had a good excuse to be gone today. Hpe the birth went okay.
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Does GA's terribleness
cut Ethier some slack for that RCF hit last night?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ethier doesn’t catch that foul ball :)
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Man just can’t catch a break these days : )
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh shut up Big Phone
Pandoval isn’t Barry fraking Bonds
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Giants fans teaching their kids early to hate LA
Nice.
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I keep trying to explain that the "rivalry" isn't a big deal in LA
No one believes me up here
by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Jul 31, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you ever been to a Dodger / Giant game at the Ravine in the corners or the pavilion?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
There's plenty of crazy animosity on both sides
but as an SF resident (and former LA) resident I can agree that outside of the stadium the hatred for LA and the DOdgers extends much further than it does in reverse in LA. I saw a parent teaching their 3 yr old kid to say “Beat LA” on a tram here once. They really get off on hating on LA beyond just the rivalry.
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I never get how a place thats so smug wrt being the greatest city on planet earth yet they have so much hate for la.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Cause one can’t spell smug without you?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just glad
American sports keep it a city v. city rivalry. At worst there are some rich v working class college rivalries. But reading about European soccer, yeeesh.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
What american team rivalries are rich vs. working class?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In college
Alabama v. Auburn, Stanford v. Cal, Phil’s example : )
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm. But the fanbase of USC is certainly not a rich fanbase. At least not exclusively.
Maybe the Stanford one, I have no idea.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
private school
v public school is always going to be Rich v. Poor
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
One is in South Central, the other is in Westwood.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Not always. Duke/UNC both schools are rich. Just because a school is public doesn’t make it working class
Well Cal's no poor house
but I can’t imagine UNC is Duke rich, same way Cal isn’t Stanford rich
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well rivalries never have to do with reality
I’m just saying I’m glad there aren’t US rivalries over religion, race, etc. the way there are in Europe
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I assume
Utah doesn’t have any anti-mormon songs in their repertoire, but I could be wrong
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the joke or the basis of the rivalry is that both schools consist of mainly Mormons anyway.
It’s not BYU versus Boston College.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
To a certain extent
There are a fair number of non-Mormons at Utah and very few at BYU. The Mormons that end up at Utah tend to be less wealthy, but that’s probably less true than it used to be.
by SuperBruinMan on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
ya but wow wouldnt it be amazing to be a part of one
I mean Celtic v Glasgow rangers, i.r.a. catholic separatists vs protestant loyalists…so much history beyond just the matches themselves, pretty crazy
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
If by amazing you mean terrifying
I stay out of gang territory, and I steer clear of religious battles
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, and while i dont aprove of religious or gang related violence
its amazing to me that there is so much behind the games themselves, that for instance, the union jacks and singing of rule britania are line with loyalist tradition while the Celtic fans wave irish flags and sing songs with republic and gaelic tradition..I just find it fastinating
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I give you the pageantry
but raise you the orange institution and the number of people killed by the IRA
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
of course, its not something to take lightly
my dad grew up fearful of ira terrorists in London and remembers when you couldn’t find a single trash can in the city for fear of bombings…and again, I’m not wishing to be a part of the violence, but in my mind, its gotta be pretty amazing to be on the winning side of an Old Firm match, or any match with similar implications, as it may feel like winning not only a game but a battle
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
If you look at student bodies yea
but SC picked up the lower income raider nation fan base, so I agree that its not that clear cut rich v poor
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
What’s funny is that Stanford started his school because he thought Cal was too snobish and not concerned with pure education. When it opened Stanford accepted anyone regardless of the ability to pay.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
funny
I heard Stanford started his school because his son couldn’t get into Harvard
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, it was named for his son who had passed away. When it opened it was Leland Stanford Junior University.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
It still is
LSJU. His son died at age 16, so he probably hadn’t been rejected by Harvard.
by SuperBruinMan on Jul 31, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably just
rivalry chatter
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And no matter what they say in Palo Alto, Pomona College is the Harvard of the west.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
Well UC Berkeley
is still the Yale of the west
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent.
The funny thing is, I’ve been thinking about that since it was mentioned above.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Per Dodgers press release
"Octavio gives us another veteran pitcher who has saved a lot of games in the big leagues and is used to pitching late in the game," said Colletti. "With two All-Stars in Broxton and Kuo, in addition to our other veteran arms, this gives us a solid, experienced bullpen."
He didn't mention the rocket arm
does Jansen get sent down?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Right, but I'm not finding a spot for him
with Belisario and Dotel being added. Which would suck, but at least it would only be for 30 days.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Is that the same template used when Sherrill was brought in?
by Ryan Cogdill on Jul 31, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have rather given Jmac the chance in the bullpen
We should have called him and jansen up earlier.
I wish our mascot
was a miniature Giraffe
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Still prefer Cuban.
He’d go to the games more than just a handful of times. And heckle the ump.
I think Frank just doesnt go down to his field level seats anymore
because no one likes him..
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
meg whitman
Im glad you were able to fix downed servers at ebay. now stfu.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions
Keith Law
does not like the Dotel deal. Basically, the Pirates have to only get some return on this deal and they win.
dont know why ned always goes after guys with that precious save stat
any other reliever would require less of a haul
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It just occurred to me that the Dodgers could have a bunch of draft picks if they offered arbitration to Kuroda, Padilla, Lilly.
That is pointless path
but Padilla is not a type A is it, and Kuroda can’t be either give how much time he missed last year, or are you saying they are all Type A’s?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
All starters on major league rosters at the end of the season are ranked, using the following categories:
Total games (total starts + 0.5 * total relief appearances)
IP
Wins
W-L Percentage
ERA
Strikeouts
Stats for the prior 2 years are used.
I think Lilly has a lot of work to do to keep Type A status
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
So really no draft picks
because Lilly is the one guy we will not take a chance on arbitration because they could not afford him and he’s old enough he could easily accept.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Looking ahead to 2011
I haven’t updated the payroll worksheet yet, but…
C Martin
1B Loney
2B Theriot
3B Blake
SS Furcal
LF Paul
CF Kemp
RF Ethier
IF Carroll
C Ellis
Bench
Bench
Bench
SP Kershaw
SP Bills
SP Ely
SP
SP
CL Broxton
RP Kuo
RP Dotel
RP Belisario
RP Troncoso
RP Schlichting
RP
is already about $93 million. With of course at least two holes in the starting rotation.
Of course, this is assuming Martin and Theriot get tendered, and Dotel’s option is picked up.
Completely boned by leaving him off. My bad.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
you're totally forgiven
for using the phrase “completely boned”. That was awesome
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If Dotel has a mutual option
why would he exercise it to be the setup guy. He left Chicago so he could be the closer, he hates being a setup guy.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
It depends what he thinks his market is this winter I suppose.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
seriously...kinda scary, so many holes still
and considering frank would prefer an 80 million dollar payroll
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
I almost forgot, Podsednik could possibly be back for $2 million too :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Anderson could conceivably go when Reed Johnson comes back, but that’s about it.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant if Anderson were to go, that would be the time.
I don’t think they will DFA him though.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The happily married man whom I have no interest in
is celebrating the birth of his second child
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
no
I declared earlier that with the second kid coming, it’d be unclassy of me to keep up the drooling over Andre thing. Will find new target to “Millie”
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Nine innings in July
http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=555&position=P&season=2010
This does seem like a pointless trade other then Ned having zero confidence in Belisario, Jansen, and McDonald.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
jaffe’s article says Dotel has bad splits against LHP, but I bet thats what Kuo is for
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how he's a better asset
He might be marginally better this year, but I highly doubt that he’ll be that much better. McDonald is a far better asset because he’s like 25 and not arb-eligible yet, right? This trade has me really confused because it seems like they gave up McDonald for a more expensive and much older version of a relief pitcher who will likely be similar in value. Plus Lambo.
Colletti on Dotel: “With 2 All-Stars in Broxton and Kuo, in addition to our other veteran arms, this gives us a solid, experienced bullpen.”
Ned Colletti never had a team where he didn’t heavily depend on veterans.
Well at least Dotel >>> Taschner!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Yeah Bills almost makes me want to keep watching baseball. :-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Damn that bridge
how can steel be so pretty?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
that really wasn't a response
more a tangent
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
who is this bills you speak of?
i heard he’s been horrible these past couple of weeks.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Whoever said that hasn't watched him the past couple of weeks
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
time to panic?
Just noticed Jerry Sands’ OPS has dipped below 1.000 to a questionable .950.
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions
HAH! Bills is an OBP machine today too!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I remember the deal the Marlins wanted
If we could have kept Kershaw, Bills, Kemp, and Ethier, I’d have given ANYONE else to get him. Like 6 players.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Maybe Bills should bat 8th and Pods 9th
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Putting our slugging SS in a position to drive in more runs?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
How are you going to deal with whiny teenagers as a teacher?
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that I am going to get smacked by a lot of people on here for this next comment but… I don’t really mind Charlie Steiner and Rick Monday
The only reason you no the score is because it’s 0-0
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn he hit that well actually. Nice play by Posey.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Ump is calling that outside strike even though its 5 inches off the plate
but batters should know that by now…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
JGFSLKDGNSDOUPIGHYWRETISFG)*HUITW#{UR*F(HIT#T*RGFS)*(GUHISGHS*DUFHSI{Y*#RHIAHFIJSGFH(UIREJNTPSHGIJSFGYH(U#IJ
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Dammmmn he just got under that one. Drat.
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just missed
bat needed to be out there about 1 more inch
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It was probably the best swing hes taken in a while. He still carried it 390. Crazy power that he just hasnt unleashed yet
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
hmmm
Kershaw’s not married. But he’s super religious. that can be a deal breaker
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He is
they have been together for some time (since HS)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Watched the premier last night. Fantastic.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Russ still have the yoga girlfriend?
He’s got a cool jazzy dad and such.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Russ is honestly my top choice
but is he sticking around, way things are?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I think so. I doubt they find an alternative. Maybe they sign him to a 2-year deal with the threat of non-tender.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I need some time to get over Andre
but I think I’ve found my new crush <3 <3 <3 : )
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe if he falls in love with a local girl ;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Maddz has dibs there
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
z
Looks we can take M Young off that list
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
lol i'm kidding
just saying they would have fucked him over with that streak.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Yup. that was a fantastic 3-1 pitch, though.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Buster Olney Buster_ESPN
Heard this: The Dodgers took on about $3 million in payroll during this period.
Where did he hear it from? :)
He’s a big fan of the sidebar at TBLA :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Just want to say, I am really tired of the “heard this” lead-in to his tweets.
I don’t know if I just don’t like it or I am mad I haven’t come up with a catchy short phrase for all my comments.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Typical July 2010 Dodgers game again today
Strong pitching, crap hitting…some might call it a pitching duel…we know better
not able to pitch inside
not able to make it past the 5th inning
Making a bunch of armchair psychs shut the fuck up!
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Did it call for the Jack in the Box wife to get hotter? If so, well done.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The JAck in the Crack script?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, i guess we got different commercials. He wrote the movie about the internet porn revolution.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Hes a funny dude. his brother is one of the head writers for entourage and he also wrote a lot of the Punk’d series. and his wife was a Hawaiian Tropic model. Hes got a good life.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I just told my wife I wanted to see that movie.
I haven’t seen a movie in over a year. Thinking about seeing Inception tonight though.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saw it last night. Pretty awesoke.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to say, I love that awesoke has caught on :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
GO FUCKING WATCH IT!
leo has always been my favorite actor thanks to scorcese, but that definitely beats anything scorcese made with him.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
GOOD TIMING AWARD
Lol.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
why couldn't he do that with runners on?
by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Jul 31, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions
hey one thing at a time...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
BEARDED!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
whenever I hear "bearded" I always think of
andy bernard saying “i really schruted it” lol
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
exactly, hah.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
start swinging at the outside ball!
he’s been callin it all day!
but okay, i officially fucking love you right now beard.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
The Beard did something!!!
He wanted to please me after dissapointing me so much! :)
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
What?
Wait, what?
Also, love the Dodger fans in the bleacher starting shit, turning around, raising the caps. Hope they don’t get stabbed
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With what?
Wine corkscrew? Stale sourdough?
@soyboquense
by delias man on Jul 31, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those bleacher creatures
are from South San Francisco – the industrial city. Different world
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Come on Rusty!
Do a good here, take Zito out!
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
hahaha would like to see that as well.
not fucking jansen, kuo, sherrill lol, that’s for damn sure.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
He would be here already if he threw himself to Pittsburgh
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
GA will not save the world
I’m gonna go make a sandwich
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I’d like to think these two events were related
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they were talking to GA
“no play for mister grey”
@soyboquense
by delias man on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
probably should be a d on the end of that
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Your prediction lasted longer than I expected
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Just got home
To a couple of trades and a couple 800 post threads, so I won’t read all of them. I sure hope for Ned’s sake that the Dodgers win these last two games in SF and can sweep the Padres, otherwise it makes little sense to be buyers. He’s gambling a bit, but didn’t really give up anything earth-shattering. I can’t call these trades “retarded” like others have, but they really have very little value to add for a team that does not have a great chance of making the playoffs. I hope Ned’s gamble pays off.
vr, Xei
FUUUUCK!
that would have helped bills so much. 2 outs 3 pitches. COME ON RAFFY
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Whenever Rafy makes an error like that I think we always end up paying for that
didn’t it seem that Carroll should have thrown behind him sooner?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
shut the hell up
talk about zito not getting any support. WE AS A TEAM ARE THE EPITOME OF NOT GETTING SUPPORT!
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
you got
something against the Cajuns?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I have passing love
for Texas and LSU. Keith’s big rivals. How funny is that?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Where's that Tiger? Where's that Tiger?
Hold that Tiger. Hold that Tiger.
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
was gonna say the same thing. Hes been nails these last 3 games.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I
approve this standing Ovation
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
with a potential for Jansen mixed in (although today I think it’s just those 2)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw where Kuo had asked to pitch more innings but it seemed like he was really asking for his arm to fall off.
His deal has always been
that it takes such an effort from him to go from 0 to pitch, that it doesn’t really matter how long he throws in one outing (to a point). It’s the back-to-backs I worry about.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
very, very fucking good game bills.
love you <3
era goes from 4.61 to 3.78 in 3 starts, FUCKING BEAST!
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Pitcher spot up 2nd next inning, no? Was that a bit early to take Bills out? Especially since he’s reached twice today?
Especially given the current bench’s depth
by Ryan Cogdill on Jul 31, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your sarcasm
and chose not to feed it
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
so thats over 20 innings scoreless then right? sorry if i missed this earlier
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
That was a swing for a strike
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Not much range there Mr. Carroll or do I expect to much
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Yes. Please dont speed up his bat with offspeed
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Being lazy as a catcher in the 7th inning is relative
does any other position in professional sports work so much harder then anyone else on the playing field?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Good question. Goalie in hockey? Everyone else gets line changes.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
shouldn’t you be scouting the Angels? They’ve got a winning formula!
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Grab some bench
you inferior baseball player
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Oh I can be downright Shakespearean if the mood hits
Sit your boil covered rump down on the bench you drug addled twat
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Only 3 bench players anyway. I could see letting Kuo hit.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I support this plan
but who do you PH?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i leave him in. We’re winning and Huff is coming up. Give me Kuo vs. their 2-3-4.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Joe should have double switched GA out of the game.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
3 years in, he still hasn’t gotten the hang of it
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He might be saving Paul for a defensive replacement in extra innings :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I like your sense of humor
You’re like Paul Rudd in a room full of Seth Rogens
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No
that compliment was for you, silly. I just didn’t want to interrupt the flow, use proper names
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m at the point where I dont expect Torre to make any right decisions. That way, its a positive when he does something logical.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I blame this on the bench coach, that is his job
we need Don Zimmer
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
lower the expectations so you're not disappointed.
very smart thinking.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Bills
No Earned Runs on 3 days rest
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
the first 2 hitters sure didn't go too well
and after that he cruised
by bucknellbruin on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Insurance now would be awesome.
Too much to ask for?
by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Jul 31, 2010 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
Dodgers save those for games Bills isn’t pitching.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd suggest no PH here...our bench is thin
…and Huff coming up in the next inning.
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
2 man bench ftw
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Would be nice for Carroll to get on base so Kuo can bunt him over
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Jamey Carroll
100 games?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
that
is unfortunate
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
if kuo gets out
the dodgers win the world series. or walks, or hits.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Oh make it so Kuo!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Carroll is exactly the type of player
where the more he plays the more he normalizes to his crappy self.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Better his average self starting at 2nd over Theriot though...
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Not always and when OB is BABIP inspired
it tends to go down the more you play as your luck normalizes.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Hah!
Nice Kuo patience!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
we should all be required to take a pilgrimage to visit that helmet
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
by the way
did anyone know you can play snake on youtube videos?
if you hold down pause on the video with the mouse and then the left arrow, it starts playing
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
Once the Dodgers are eliminated we shall have a
column dedicated to the best PC tricks
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
haha found ti out last night myself
I’ll save it though : )
William Doolittle at your service, a.k.a. will do.
that was obviously intentional.
kuo would have blasted a pitch down the middle.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
What did he say? I muted it 2 innings ago. Much happier.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I could almost hear the sneer even with the sound off.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I think he just sometimes kind of goes out of his way to critique the Dodgers
since he’s an ex Dodger and people will read into it that he’s a homer. So sometimes he goes the other way.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
what am I missing
all this talk of helmets and dicks
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
2 walks and a hit for the 9 spot today.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Worst trend
in the modern ballparks
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
SD is bullshit
the home team has a nice normal bullpen, and the visiting team has 1 on the side
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd do that, have to make home field advantage, home field advantage
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
and put a “Major League” style hot tub in the visitor’s clubhouse :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it sad that the best I'm hoping for is a force-out at 2B to get Kuo off the basepaths?
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
Watch Scotty Pods swing at a 3-1 pitch
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He says hah!
Even he knew this guy can’t find the plate with GPS.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Bautista throwing like I would be.
Put me in Giants!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
please don't call anything ever again
by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Jul 31, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
That was iffy
but still, coulda slapped it away
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
The Kuo Batflip... The Best Batflip Ever...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOLE7dRjwQQ
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
Back to normal Rafy, oh well it was fun while it lasted
now he’ll suck even worse to make up for that whack hot streak ala Andre
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
The Curacao Cure?
The Cure?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
But only if he strikes out Victorino
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I like "The Cure" I'm sticking with that.
Esp since we traded The Solution :-(
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
That pitch had some movement
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Dodgers continually forget that its G Frickin Mota
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Stop swinging at that !!
blargh…
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Everyone in the park, at home, and on the Moon knew that pitch was gonig to be a ball away.. AND he still swung..
fucking Bison. He needs to spend all winter in the cage just recognizing pitches. Thats his biggest flaw, and he cant become elite unless that improves (although its probably too late to develop that skill)
Dude is 25 years old. There are still college kids older than him playing ball. It’s not too late for anything.
I like Cetera.
That skill is something that is really hard to develop this late in development. Its just hard to become a more patient hitter and recognize breaking balls better in your 20’s.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
just wait until we get lilly theriots and dotels bat in this lineup
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 31, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
Thank you Garret Anderson?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
that looked scarier than it should've
by I'm Kind of a Big Teal on Jul 31, 2010 3:34 PM PDT reply actions
Dude Giants
you’re disappointing your fans
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Ya, we wanted to hit him and out the tying run on at first in the 8th. well, considering we did it in the 7th in a game before, you never know.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it too much to hope for retaliation by the Giants’ pitcher next inning?
by Ryan Cogdill on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Torre, you funny guy
you did that on purpose didn’t you
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Neither did Torre
he was shaking his head at that warning
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
What is that the 5th HBP in the series?
Thank goodness it’s not stirring trouble this time (yet anyway)…
cain is going to hit 4 tomorrow.
then kershaw gets suspended for the fun of it.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
So cause I'm slow
was this supposed to be Kershaws start, but he missed it on suspension and is pitching tomorrow?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
and I guess
Bills and Kershaw flip in the rotation now?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Kershaw knows how good Bills is, and wanted to showcase it :)
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to see Jansen here and Ox in the 9th
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:37 PM PDT reply actions
i think ive seen it 40 times in the last week.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hate Directv right now
That goddamned fire was about a mile from my house and I have no access to local channels
DFA JAMES LONEY
Yeah
Its all taken care of now but every year we have a fire on the border of the town or in it
DFA JAMES LONEY
My two cents as I've read every comment today and this week
I deserve it
First, Tripon, I’ve liked your comments the past year but you’ve changed and not in a good way
Second, We trimmed the tree with everyone but DeWitt being expendable IMO.Hug your prospects but trim the tree. JMac and Lambo especially look like head cases. We have others and on DeWitt…you guys do remember that it takes two to tango and you have to give up something in a trade,no?Blame McCourt most of all for acting like a small market team.
Third, win probability and all, really we have a ton of games left and now we have a complete team that is better…sometimes a complete team with now one of the games best LHPs may click. 2b is a wash,pen is solid
Go Dodgers!
why?
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm speechless.
If they lose this game I still blame the ol culprit, no offense again. 2 runs shouldn’t lose you the game
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
The offense failed massively today
Furcal watched strike 3 in each of his last 2 at bats and was thrown out at 3rd with 1 out, Kemp struck out on a bad pitch in the dirt in his last at bat (though nearly hit one out before that), Loney grounded out weakly to 2b with Kemp on second…just AA hitting at it’s finest.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Still if Broxton does his job we win 1 - 0, so while the offense failed, they did enough
to win if our Closer, Closes the game.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
So once the Dodgers have the lead, the offense has done enough, and if the club loses after that point, it is on the pitching staff?
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much. 1 - 0 lead in the 8th with four outs to do, yes I put that on the Closer.
A one run lead doesn’t matter if it is 10 – 9 or 1 – 0 you have to hold it.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
Blaming the closer is fine I guess, but the idea that the offense did enough doesn’t track for me.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the same as the kicker debate in football
Yes, the kicker didn’t lose you the game by missing the field goal. But that’s what his job is to do. Lots of other people didn’t do their job, but Broxton definitely didn’t do his.
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I’d rather Broxton can just hold the lead, which should be no problem, but the offense won’t stop failing. If they had scored 3 runs, that’s only 2 extra hits with a runner on second, we could still have won that game.
Broxton deserves a good portion of the blame, but my vote goes to the inept offense.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
Burrell was always good. Just sucked in TB
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He put up a .300 wOBa for 1 1/2 years. Huff put up a sub .300 wOBA last year. And now they kill us.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I was always a Burrell fan. Wanted him in LA after 2008.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too. But he still sucked for over a year. and now hes a giant. blech
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I could be so much more productive if I did not spend the last 24 years watching baseball
@soyboquense
You could have a better couch than the Russian
by Eric Stephen on Jul 31, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It would have been something else then…
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
HBP’s happen. And Burrell’s got power. Shit like that happens.
Need to score more.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Think About It
WHY THE FUCK IS BROXTON STILL ON THIS TEAM! HE NEVER MAKES IT EASY1 NEVER
My name sucks.
Oh go pick some potatoes
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Since he's gone
I’ll say what I wanted to say, and that’s “Good Riddance you sister fucking hillbilly.”
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
This could be in exchange
for Manny hitting a pinch hit HR in the bottom of the 8th that gave the Dodgers a 2-1 win.
Having Ox enter in the 8th is unnecessary when we have Jansen
by The Dude Abides on Jul 31, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
Unless you think Jansen is better than Broxton, it could have happened all the same.
by Michael White on Jul 31, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
WAY TO FUCK UP BILLS NIGHT! AND MY DAY!
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
uh
SF and LA are in the same timezone dude
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Can I have DeWitt, McDonald, Pimintel, Wallach, May back?
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
why are you still here?
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, hes right. They have good pitching, some legit hitters and are a better team than we are.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
New theory
McCourt plans to run the Dodgers like the Cubs.
Big market. Big revenue. Minimal team.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Loney gets a fastball down the middle and rolls it over.
i still cant believe how awful a pitch Broxton threw to Burrell. That was just dreadul.
True. A 3-2 slider by Brox at least has Burrell off balance. But, Burrell cant do much damage if Broxton locates the ball. He just missed right over the heart, thigh high.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
thank fucking god july is over.
i would have jumped off a cliff by now if the lakers didn’t win.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Back to back to back losses inside the NLW
After not losing a series all year to them. Dodgers better hope August is a lot better than July has been.
Kershaw and Kuo
have both hurt us with that HBP leading by a run.
Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen
This. I cant get on kuo cause hes so great and still should have been left in. Hes not a loogy Joe, hes our best pitcher. Let him finish the damn inning.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
THINK ABOUT IT
THE GIANTS JUST OWN THE DODGERS, FOREVER1
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
Authenticity is important
when you’re mocking someone
How would you define your approach to management, apart from being brilliant?
by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont even know if i want them to surge. They would have to go on a crazy run to jump all of these teams, and if they put something together it will likely just be a tease.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Broxton has had a pretty bad
month plus a few days going back to that Yankee game.
But then just last week he pitched two innings in the extra inning game that the Dodgers won.
Seems to be having a difficult time locating
hidden injury possibly a contributing factor?
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this 2003 all over again?
Really good pitching (ever since April), but the offense can’t do a damn thing.
Chad was incredible today. Another seriously good performance. He’s really hitting his stride, and looks like he’s got a ton of confidence now. I wish Torre had left him in to finish the 7th.
"Stop exploding you cowards!!!"
once again
joe torre’s decision fucks us. how hard is it to let kuo pitch one more fucking out? he got a warning, you really think he would have been ejected with one more batter? FUCK!
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
it's pretty clear who our best pitcher is
especially since the yankee game.
Seriously, Dodgers... HELP WANTED
Right now Kuo is the best reliever and it’s not even really close.
"A baseball game is nothing but a great slow contraption for getting you to pay attention to the cadence of a summer day."
by Langhorne on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best case scenario is Padres win and giants lose the wildcard to the Cardinals or something like that.
by UCLADodger32 on Jul 31, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Given that the Giants have not won 20 games in a month in a decade and
are 15 games over .500 for the first time 6 years, I would say they were due to have a good year sometime.
I wish him well
but by default I’m down on anyone Plaschke likes
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by Josie Becker on Jul 31, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Re-set your default
DeWitt is to Plaschke
as
Extra Virgin Olive Oil is to sewer water :0
by 68elcamino427 on Jul 31, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
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