Ronald Belisario Placed On Restricted List
by Eric Stephen on Jul 7, 2010 2:44 PM PDT
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Before tonight's game, the Dodgers activated Carlos Monasterios from the disabled list, a move which was expected. However, the corresponding move was not expected: Ronald Belisario was placed on the restricted list for "personal reasons." This is not the first time on the restricted list for Belisario, who began the season there after showing up to camp 35 days late.
On the field, the Dodgers look to win their series with the Marlins with what will likely be their toughest test, facing Josh Johnson, he of the league-leading 1.82 ERA. They will counter Johnson with Hiroki Kuroda, who is coming off the shortest outing of his major league career.
Sure, he gave up six runs while getting five outs Friday in Arizona, but Kuroda was likely a victim of the universe keeping things in order. You see, this is Kuroda's third season as a Dodger, and his numbers seem to always end up around the same:
| Hiroki Kuroda: Mr. Consistency | |||
| Year | ERA | FIP | x-FIP |
| 2008 | 3.73 | 3.59 | 3.93 |
| 2009 | 3.76 | 3.58 | 3.66 |
| 2010 | 3.78 | 3.56 | 3.68 |
| Career | 3.75 | 3.58 | 3.79 |
Don't be surprised when Kuroda gives up three runs in 7 1/3 innings tonight.
Notes
- Up next for Rafael Furcal in the Dodger run-scoring streak pantheon is Zack Wheat, who scored a run in 13 straight games in 1925. Wheat hit .423 with 17 runs scored in his 13 games. Furcal's streak is 12 games, and he is hitting .462 with 17 runs in his streak.
- The Dodgers got younger in their Triple A outfield depth department, releasing 35-year old Timo Perez and signing 27-year old Australian Trent Oeltjen to a minor league deal. Oeltjen made his major league debut with Arizona last season, hitting home runs in three of his first four games, but fell back to reality with a nine-for-50 slump thereafter.
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Game Time: 7:10 p.m.
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Visa problems again?
Wonder what’s up… Belisario’s been making Padilla look stable by comparison this season.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
FIRST to worry that Ned’s now really reliver shopping.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions
You weren't worried before?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I should have italicized the word ‘really.’
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I should have said
You weren’t really worried before? :-p
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
No kidding
this is the worst time for me, while at the same time being the most exciting. Which kid or kids that I’ve been writing about, will go onto to fulfill whatever future he has with someone else? On the other hand which player will come our way to help us navigate our way to another shot at the championship? The month before the trading deadline is a tricky month. The prospects ghosts of Tiffany, JtD, Watt, Santana, Bell, Steve Johnson, Blake Johnson, Nunez, Abreu, Garate, LaRoche, and Morris all waft through my mind during this period. Plenty of bad to go with the good, with one great. I only ask that we get good value in return and not a Hendrickson, or Garland, or ready to retire Maddux.
Yeah, this is the month I haunt the net and try to remember Jon Weisman’s cautions against believing the rumor mill too much. And nolander read me well, yes, I’m already overly worried about a deal for a reliever.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we all are
Especially since we seem to have plenty of young arms who could help the team down the stretch.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Glad to see that Monk’s serious illness magically healed just in time for him to take Belibizarrio’s place.
The Dodgers (and other teams) have used the DL more creatively this year than any I can remember in year’s past. Is MLB finally catching up other sports with regards to phantom injuries?
Soccer says "no"
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Belisario
had a Sherillian run going with just one strikeout in his last 25 batters faced. However, he did not walk a batter, and allowed only four hits in 7 1/3 scoreless innings (.167 BABIP)
haha Sherillian
sounds epic
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Jul 7, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think so
The leading candidates to be moved for Monasterios were either Schlichting optioned or Miller DFA’d.
yeah but u dont just put a guy on the RL i mean i guess we will see if he will get paid or not
It would be much easier to make up some injury
He won’t get paid on the restricted list.
Belisario has allowed 3 runs in his last 19 appearances. If you are going to do a “fake injury,” the player has to play along.
Obviously something happened, again, with Belisario. What that was we have no idea. But the restricted list isn’t something that is taken lightly.
i thought the team had the option but i guess im worng could it be
maybe performance enhancing test maybe coming up….im just speculating though
no i know that but maybe the dodgers realized there may be a drug test coming soon
i know it sounds stupid but this is kinda outta the blue
Yeah, I have no idea what you are talking about.
by Eric Stephen on Jul 7, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Cam was saying, initially, that this must be something because it’s not just like sending a guy to the DL, which is much easier and less noteworthy, really.
Then, maybe to avoid him getting tested, they put him on the RL. I’m not sure how valid that would be but that was my understanding of the thread above. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Maybe a trip back to (Venezuela?) to show up for a court appearance?
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Its the restricted list
Which means there is something going on.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Joe on Weaver going back to the rotation
“I don’t think there’s anybody whose place he should take at this point,” manager Joe Torre said Tuesday. “[David] Ely, certainly it was a horrible start last night, but he’s given us a whole lot more good than bad. And the fact that Weav likes what he’s doing, he likes coming out of the bullpen.”
Looks like Andre Ethier isn’t the only one who doesn’t know who Ely is.
didn't that PT reporter
call him James or something?
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Where is that from
If it is from Ken Gurnick on MLB.com, he probably was thinking of his colleague David Ely, who covered some games for MLB.com the last few years.
Also, just as a reminder, if anyone quotes something, please cite the source and link if applicable.
Please aks my permission before you quote me, Kenneth.
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link
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Or this Ely?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
So glad you posted that.
I have it in my cache to paste here, but you guys are good. I found it pretty funny.
by TopDeckTrueBlue on Jul 7, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Revisiting the 2007 draft
If the Giants had taken Jason Heyward at #10 instead of Madison Baumgarner, they would have a been a real tough team to beat right now.
Well, the 2 better ones (Kuo and Broxton) are still around.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Where did the original policy of using Kuo one inning at a time come from?
Was that per Kuo’s doctors?
It was a plan crafted by the Dodgers training staff
because of his injury history and that just getting him warmed up is such a taxing endeavor.
So their lazy?
I mean come on, it only takes like 6 hours to get him ready.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Our bullpen is an 80s comedy-action show!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
I would say 3
counting Sherrill.
It was a five-headed monster for the last two months last year. Like Mike said, the two best ones are still here, so that’s cool.
I was thinking of
Belisario and Sherrill, who do you consider the 3rd? Troncoso, he kind was eh after his great April/May. Am I blanking out?
So he wasn't much of a factor by this time last year.
1.73 WHIP in the 2nd half, 4.85 ERA
We will miss the solid LH stuff of Sherrill but even Belisario by the 2nd half had tapered off.
FIP by month
Apr 2.64
May 2.85
Jun 5.32
Jul 4.07
Aug 2.90
Sep 3.48
Troncoso was still used in high leverage spots, and was effective. I’m counting him.
Effective
if the world was run by FIP but in the actual world the WHIP belies what actually happened when the batter hit the ball and it wasn’t pretty.
Good Point
First reaction was to agree with Eric.
However, FIP is just to determine how good Tron would be in a context neutral environment. Dodgers are not that, and unfortunately, it’s below the average side defensively. :/
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I jumped in early
Was the argument that Troncoso was worse in high leverage situations? If that’s the case, I agree with you.
I was disagreeing with the notion that FIP is what will count as far as real world results for Tron. :o
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
He is effective.
Dodgers are not. Hahaha.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
But it has nothing to do with the pitcher. Tron was no less effective; his defense was.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So given that the defense can’t improve much – how many of those players can you swap out – didn’t the Dodgers need pitchers that were less dependent on the defense for success?
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Ideally the defense would be less shitty. Hahaha.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Is the Dodgers defense going to get better?
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Sits in office ignoring players
/ Torre
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
hate to say it but Belisario
looks like a rape waiting to happen. So when it comes to what might have happened
1. DUI
2. Accused of female misconduct
3. ???
3. Drug problem not related to MLB suspension
4. Voluntary entering a sober program
5. Bonking Jamie McCourt in the house with pool she is allowed to visit
6. Using his unit to spread the spread before Larry Bowa wondered in to make a sandwich
by meercatjohn on Jul 7, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
9Punched a fan when he found out that the fan was calling him the long lost ninja turtle
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
10. Belisario is actually the grim sleeper suspect who was arrested today
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
11. Belisario is going to the Knicks to play with LeBron.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
12. Belisario is Lebron’s PR man and he’s getting ready for tomorrow night.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
14. He’s the actual reason all the Red Sox players are on the DL.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
15. Moved a trash can that was too close to his locker.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
17. Punched the GM in the face after suggesting that Kuo should pitch every day.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
18. Identified as Lindsay Lohan’s manicurist; held in contempt of court.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Nice! She’s ridiculous.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Out of control and out of touch
I do feel a shade sorry for her though, having heard her father make extended comments. He’s a lunatic.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I watched a little story on her today
She is right where she belongs. She has no respect for authority.
You’re dead on about her Dad.
Hopefully she can pull a RDJ, though I’m not entirely sure she’s as talented as he is. While I’m not optimistic about the 90 day jail sentence (which will likely be 23 instead), hopefully the 90 day rehab will get her away from her family and the drugs and help her get her life together.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
is there an all of the above option?
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Jul 7, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Bellesario
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
i was wondering if he might have gotten into a fight with someone in the clubhouse.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
As bad as the Z situation is
he would come with cash to anyone who would take him in a trade.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Plus, together with Padilla, he’d just scare the Padres out of contention.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
silverwidow is now a Foxsports reporter
he has sources. sources close to the team.
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Or my favorite
According to a source with knowledge of the organization’s thinking
source in rhianna's camp
says matt kemp’s source in his pants is always pointing north
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The party in the pants
Are you saying there is a party in your pants and I am invited?
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Anyone know/remember what Belisario's behavioral problems were when
he was in the Pittsburgh org.? I tried googling for it, but to no avail.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Not sure of the details
but I enjoyed this summary by none other than Ross Porter:
Belisario said his best shot at reaching the Major League level was in the spring 2005, while he was on the Marlins’ 40-man roster, but then his elbow started acting up toward the end of Spring Training and the operation followed.
After rehabbing in 2005 he was discarded by the Marlins after an unspecified suspension in 2006. Apparently he picked up a reputation for immaturity, poor conditioning and a lack of respect for authority. When he wasn’t showing up late, he was failing to approach his job with proper commitment.
The only thing I'm pretty certain of
is how Belisario has dropped in Colletti’s eyes the moment Ned heard about whatever it is that has happened, given Colletti’s strong emphasis on character etc. every time he speaks, including to us on Monday.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
The strong character never seems to get in the way of him
trading for Lugo, and signing the likes of the ex Red Sox 3rd baseman who tried to beat up his manager.
His wife was the only thing he could hit.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if we end up with Brett Myers on August 1.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Gary Barnett. After the Mitchell Report.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I know
I just love that quote. It ranks up there in the Big XII pantheon of quotes:
1) “I’m a man. I’m 40.”
2) “It’s the Big Twelve!!! This ain’t intramurals, brother.”
3) “She was terrible.”
Really!
WTF are the football coaches in the Big XII on? They are quote machines. You got Colorado to deal with now.
“It’s the Pac 10!”
from sickels..stupid
Better prospect? Jerry Sands or Brandon Belt
by MaineChief on Jul 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
belt I will say Belt because I have actually seen him play and haven’t seen Sands yet.
Wouldn’t the more prudent thing to do…be to wait until you’ve seen both? :o
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
couldn’t he just say, “I haven’t seen either of them play.”
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
upon re-reading the quote
i find that is the case. apologies
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
But unlike Keith Law at least he admits he hasn't seen Sands
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Odd response
The more correct one is:
belt I will say Belt because I have actually seen him play andhaven’t seen Sands yet.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He would never be able to answer if he had to see a prospect to answer
he works from home, goes on a few extended trips a year. Otherwise he see’s them on MiLB TV at best. Who can judge a prospect on one game anyway?
I think that’s a problem actually. Lots of scouting develop opinions on players based on a few games where they scout a series or something. Those are the quotes you see in like Buster Olney’s articles.
Probably why real organizations rely on their regional scouts and then cross checkers.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It is why BP
said fuck it in the beginning and just looked at numbers. Why the Dan Uggla’s stand out as solid Rule Five picks while the scouts scratch their ass. On the other hand HanRam made the number guys looks silly.
Jose Reyes, etc
Both are useful, as always. :o
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
At the Blogger Night
Somebody asked Ned if it was really necessary to scout somebody like Cliff Lee for a trade.
He responded with an emphatic yes. To look for glitches in his throwing motion, a hidden injury, etc.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
He brought up the example of an unnamed shortstop he was looking to acquire (had to be 2008) when his scout spotted an injury on what was otherwise was just a normal leaving a game in a blowout.
I don’t know if that story was true or not, but his logic made perfect sense to me.
However
without knowing how that SS did the rest of the year we don’t know if he made a good or bad decision based on what that scout saw.
I mean it could have been the same scout
who told him that Carlos Santana was not going to be a major league catcher.
Then again, catching for the Indians doesn’t mean he’s a major league catcher yet.
In my head, I was guessing it was Wilson.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Then the answer should have been
we looked at this SS, and he sucked on the field as much as the numbers said he sucked, Oh, he was also hurt.
For on the field stuff, no.
For personality stuff like how he reacts to failure, how he carries himself, yes.
Plus, when you’re there, if you want to focus on one guy running the bases or playing defense, it’s a lot easier to follow than relying on the camera.
To analyze a pitching motion or swing though, tv is often twenty times better since you can break down video.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking, but even the personality stuff can be small sample size. What if the dude just found out his road beef was blowing Barry Zito that night?
Yup
That’s why when I do my profiles I don’t even bother with the personality stuff, I just parrot what i’ve seen coaches and scouts say.
Not even gonna pretend I know how his personality is like on the field.
I think that’s where regional scouts who see them every week throughout the season become really important.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say yes
Kensai knows more of what to look for then I do. Then take it another step up from Kensai, so I’d again say yes, but as with any profession there are good ones and bad ones.
I love that this is going to be taken seriously. :)
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Beyond Andrew’s boyish looks
his artificial hair colors and his penchant for girlie drinks…
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Oh man, so he used to be an anime character?! Solid.
Chugging vodka doesn’t seem girlie to me…then again, I’m not very good at drinking like a chick.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
In the old days here, we used to tease him about the mixers and the fruit skewered on toothpick umbrellas that was going into that vodka.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He's on the TBLA restricted list
for personal reasons
by Eric Stephen on Jul 7, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like Andrew is over compensating these days
to make up for his previous reputation as a “Marshall”.
I'm sure you wouldn't have made Eric's mistake
of leaving the Crown on the table.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I agree with him
You have to send somebody to at least look at him to check for stuff, just in case there’s a huge red flag.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Course
if that scout tells you Lee will suck because of his mechanics, so you decide not to pursue him, best to fire him and then yourself.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know, seems like alot of trouble
1. Plane Ticket
2. Hotel
3. Food and Drinks
4. Hookers
Just to scout a 10,000,000 investment. Jamie has needs.
Could buy her another date with a Pillsbury heir.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
This is reminding me of the story that Delias told at the SNLA meetup regarding Weaver and strippers. An image that has been seared into my mind, and no amount of whiskey seems to be getting rid of it.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
4 made me snort
hahaha
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Lol
I haven’t seen Carlos Santana play but does that make him worse than Buster Posey because I have seen him play.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
yes. its not reality until you have seen with your own eyes
there is NO oil spill since I have not seen it
You deserved to be punished by me.
And not in an S&M way.
Hold on.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You got McDonalds to sponsor your gifs?
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Exact same comment from everybody I show these too
Bahahahahaa
smartasses. :o
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well you just punished the fuck out of all of us with this, haha
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
*face into palm*
I'm nobody's fool, least of all yours
by BoulderDodger on Jul 7, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Marlins lineup
Coghlan LF
Sanchez 1B
Ramirez SS
Cantu 3B
Uggla 2B
Ross CF
Paulino C
Stanton RF
Johnson P
My humor philosophy
is there’s nothing out of bounds.
We call ourselves the Aristocrats!
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man
I like the idea of Lilly, actually.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
If Ely sucked
I’d be in on Lilly, but not sure he’d be worth the upgrade over Ely given what the Cubs would want.
I'm just not willing to buy in to Ely
and would offer Ely as part of the deal for Lilly. A second left arm would be nice if we don’t end up using him in the playoff rotation.
Do you think Ely would quit before going to the Cubs?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I'm fine with him as the fifth starter
and I don’t see Lilly being better then our current four so he would not be in the playoff rotation.
See, and the only reason I like the idea of Marcum is to potentially flip him to someone else with a prospect for an ace.
How does this sound
Traded by the Los Angeles Dodgers with Jonathan Tucker (minors), Peter Bergeron and Wilton Guerrero to the Montreal Expos for Hiram Bocachica, Mark Grudzielanek and Carlos Perez.
Ouchtown. Population: Us, bro.
Bergeron
was supposed to be the next Brett Butler. Grudz had his moments for us and luckily only Lilly panned out for the Expos.
Grudzzz!!!!
Love that guy.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
I CANNOT wait until the Dodger-Giant game on 7/31. Starts at 1:10, with trade deadline a mere 10 minutes before.
Only thing that sucks is that it’s a Fox Saturday.
I like it for the Warriors too.
Lee’s an underrated player.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Dodgers lineup
Furcal SS
Kemp CF
Ethier RF
Loney 1B
Blake 3B
Anderson LF
Martin C
DeWitt 2B
Kuroda P
I like it
Joe doesn’t want Paul to get another 0-fer against one of the toughest right handers in the game. Let GA take a crack at him.
GA vs. Josh Johnson
3 for 10 lifetime with a HR. Well there you go. Torre looked for a reason to start him and found it.
From the last thread
Joe has a lot of empathy for GA
GA this season (age 38): .188 / .203 / .289 / .492, OPS+ 34
Joe Torre, a fine, fine hitter in his day, his last season (age 36): .176 / .204 / .294 / .498, OPS+ 35
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
by David Young on Jul 7, 2010 1:28 PM PDT
Strikingly similar. GA has about 2 1/2 times the PAs to prove he was done. Joe, who became the manager in game 46 for the Mets, released himself after 2 PAs as player-manager.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
This one made me laugh
OldHossRadbourn Breaking news: in a move rife with symbolism, Knicks coach M. D’Antoni just spotted reading “James and the Giant Peach.”
@DuranLA #Dodgers Reed Johnson wearing t-shirt with pic of Casey Blake and “In Beard We Trust”
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Don't you have $20 of crap you could sell on Craig's List or something?
You must have a lot of stuff that you aren’t hauling to TN with you.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Maybe we should all chip in for her :P
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Well...that was completely vague
trayvon robinson
CF hitting .300 in AA in his first taste at 22 with good patience and power…
is he now a top 100 prospect?by matthewmafa on Jul 7, 2010 9:10 AM PDT reply actions
robinsonhe could get there yes by end of year.
by John Sickels on Jul 7, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Can I buy an Magic 8 ball and get it hired somewhere as a baseball expert?
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Thats is fucking awesome!!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
Update?
Assuming there’s even one beat reporter at DS today (at the moment, LA Times online does not even have a first report on the Belisario RL, neither via Herndadez or Peltz news report, nor on what remains of their blog; and ESPN LA has only the bare AP report), at what time do they get to ask Torre questions? Isn’t usually right about now?
Although Beto Duran is covering the game for ESPN 710, and he is very active on Twitter. He might have something up soon.
Awkward lede
In need of a roster spot, the Dodgers placed reliever Ronald Belisario on the restricted list for personal reasons Wednesday and activated right-hander Carlos Monasterios from the disabled list.You don’t put someone on the restricted list because you need to finagle the roster. That intro is really poorly worded.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He doesn't get paid on the restricted list
This is a valid reason – otherwise the union would be all over the Dodgers – and not a good one.
Bereavement list has some strictly worded qualifications, such as what kind of relatives qualify, I think.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
EARTHSHAKE
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
There was one good pop. It lasted a while.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Just
feeling some pretty damn good swaying in my building just now. Earthquake.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Shaking pretty good in Chatsworth!
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
something like 35-45 seconds of swaying here
8th floor in El Segundo.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
We got it here in Northridge too
Kinda weird.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
5.7, 58 mi NE of SD.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Oh good, it’s going UP the fault.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
I have no idea what that means
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Ran it through babelfish
and she said she is worried that each earthquake is moving northward on the fault and the next quake will be centered in the LA area.
So
we are all going to die?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I lived in California
for like 8 months. I was in an earthquake in 29 Palms. That is scary shit. Especially when you aren’t used to earthquakes.
I watched an
F-3 in April take out a vounteer fire department. At least you can see a Tornado. I remember walking up to my barracks door and getting my keys out of my pocket. The dude I was with was from CA. He said get away from the door, its an earthquake……I thought I was gonna shit my pants.
Like anything else,
the first time is pretty scary. I am a 240lb former fireman and Marine. I am telling you that shit scared me. And I don’t get spooked that easy.
OOOOHHH
The Earthquake I am referring to has a name.
1992 Landers Earthquake.
Does that make it better?
Indeed it does
That was a very powerful earthquake, 7.3 Richter reading. And in 29 Palms, you would be pretty close. That would definitely have all of us quake vets sitting up and taking notice.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I was gone
for that one, actually. I was near the 6.1 that was about 2 months prior.
Damn near had a cool story!
Nevermind
(hangs head) I was gone by then. There was a 6.1 around Joshua Tree. That was the one for me.
I hated it then and bet I still do now.
That's a decent shaker though
If you are close, and you were, that would be pretty jolting.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I guess I get that
but after the first couple you realize that there really isn’t anything to be afraid of, especially compared to things like tornadoes and hurricanes.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Well, yeah
but then I get really nervous about a “big” one.
They say to never hit a man with a closed fist. But it is, on occasion, hilarious.
Hope everyone's ok
Y’all should move up here to NorCal where we’re much safer from such thin… {shake} {rattle} {roll}
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Now
CNN can flip out and act like we all almost died.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I don't know if I said thanks again
the other day for the “Boom goes the Dynamite” video.
Me and my buddies have watched that shit at work about 20 times.
I assume there was might have been actual damage in San Diego or Anaheim.
by Michael White on Jul 7, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
AGon, HR and double to drive in garland.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I have an extra ticket for tonight's game
Anyone want it?
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
Call me if you wanna meet me there
(805) 427-1193
"If your Mr. October, I'm Mr. Spring, Summer and Winter!" - Tommy Lasorda to Reggie Jackson
About 35 miles
as the crow files from my house in Temecula
Jimmy Bramlett of LAist is at the game:
Torre couldn’t elaborate on what’s up with Belisario. The phrase of the day: “I don’t know.”
The thing about “personal reasons” is that it implies that it’s by choice, a personal request. I suppose there could be personal reasons that someone would request, in effect, leave without pay. Is that the implication here, rather than something disciplinary imposed by the team? Everyone seems to assuming it’s disciplinary, as if there’s no other non-injury, or non-bogus-injury, related reason someone would be placed on a list where there’s no pay, rather than granted some other type of leave. Maybe that;‘s just what you do for someone who doesn’t get too much respect due to previous well-known issues?
That is what happens when you have a reputation
and there is some truth to the basis for that reputation.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
How could it be non-disciplinary?
If it was his dad dying or something, it would be the bereavement list.
What neutral reason is there to be put on the restricted list? Am I not understanding something? Gah. :-/
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It just means that he has something more important than baseball in his life that will take over a week to solve.
Has it ever been used for non-disciplinary stuff?
Just curious.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to hold out hope that this isn’t drugs or alcohol or something.
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
An example of a non-disciplinary, non-substance “personal reason” might be a need for mental counseling, such as depression. Now maybe that could get you on the DL, but it might just be he doesn’t t want to have to disclose the specifics, and so they went this route.
I’m not saying that’s what it is – just playing devil’s advocate.
Yorvit Torrealba was on the restricted list about a month ago, for a couple of days, simply to deal with “a family matter”
ok
that is even worse than drugs or anything superficial like baseball
not hoping for that shit
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
How can he not know?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Read into that
“I’m not going to tell you yet because…
a) we haven’t figured it all out yet ourselves, or
b) it is something personal to Belisario that doesn’t need to be made public right now (if ever)
He never had woody for the cowgirl
it was for bo peep. Jeez man.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
It's wonderful!
Don’t need to spring for the 3-D imho. But loved the movie.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Correction
the green arrow marks the epicenter, using the lat, long given by the USGS.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
He was pissed about being picked off 3B last night
and took it out on the ball.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Earthquake in Milwuakee
Torres, Huff and Posey all homer in the first inning.
4-0 Frisco. Who thought they’d have a 3-homer inning all season?
My fast-fading fantasy team thanks him.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess playing the Blewers is a cure for what ailed the Giants
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Good news for NBA teams
Salary cap for the 2010-11 season is set at $58.044 million.
$2 million more than what everyone thought.
I was hearing, appparently like you
that it was going to be around 56M. That is a welcome suprise for some teams.
Jim Alexander
of the Press Enterprise is also confused and concerned about the Belisario situation:
“I guess what’s just written in the notes is all I know,” manager Joe Torre said. "I haven’t been told anything more. I sort of got a heads-up after the game (Tuesday) night.
“Let’s put it this way: I was surprised by this.”
Belisario was on the restricted list at the beginning of this year after reporting weeks late to spring training because of visa difficulties, although there were hints at the time that personal responsibility issues were involved, too.
But he had quickly regained the trust of Torre and the coaching staff, moving back into a key late-inning bullpen role. Belisario is 1-1 with one save and a 3.79 ERA in 35 games. He pitched three one-hit innings Monday night against Florida.
When the club is this mysterious, this locked down, suspicions immediately veer toward the worst case scenario. This figures to be a continuing story for a while.
Alexander also put this on Twitter:
With situations like this, w/ cone of silence, you fear worst. (And 2 words come to mind, from earlier #Dodgers era: Steve Howe)
Hate to say it, and you hope it isn’t anything like that, but first inclination is, “what are they hiding?”
If a guy went into rehab, before he got caught by the league’s testing, would he go on the DL or on the restricted list?
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
From http://www.sports1234.com/baseball/2684-1-baseball.html
“A player would also be on the DL if he were to volunteer that he has a substance abuse problem and goes to rehab during the season. (See Jeff Musselman, 1989.)”
If that’s accurate, then we should be able to rule out drugs for Belisario.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Chris Berman, Joe Morgan and Bobby Valentine. Easily the worst PBP crew ever.
Buck and McCarver please!
I like Bobby Valentine as an analyst in general, in a studio setting, but he is too caustic to be any good in the booth.
I am not a Chris Berman fan
I don’t like wearing ties (he only has like 3) with short sleeved shirts.
I don’t like back back back back back.
Bobby Valentine > Joe Morgan
No question
Bobby Valentine is by far the best of the three, but flawed.
Chris Berman shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a PBP booth. Ever.
I own two autographs, Valentine is one. I wrote him after he injured his leg with the Angels. Maybe the clubhouse guy signed it, but I still like Bobby V.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I was crushed when we traded him to the Angels
something seemed magical at the time that a boy born in 1950 was playing in the major leagues.
The picture in the paper the next morning
was awful; Bobby up in the CF “wall” (tarp strung between posts) with his leg in a near L shape. Shudder inducing.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I remember being physically sick. And hating the Angels for having such a cheap wall.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Denofria pinch-hit HR, of all things.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Nats get out of it, still 6-3 at the stretch.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If anyone wants to follow on Twitter
in case something is announced in the press box during the game, here are the people I know are there at the game tonight:
Jim Alexander (Press Enterprise)
Jill Painter (Daily News)
Jimmy Bramlett (LAist)
Beto Duran (ESPN 710)
LAist is an intersting blog that
covers entertainment and some topical news.
thanks
was not following any of them prior to this
by Chad Moriyama on Jul 7, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Make sure that Chalmers, Beasley, Wade, Bosh, and whomever are in shape.
They are gonna have to be. No way the other guys get meaningful minutes.
St Louis leads Colorado 2-0, top of 3
Not that a lead means anything there.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
I mentioned it in the game thread last night
but I wanted to say it again.
I hate the Giants more than any other franchise in sports. T-2 would be the Redskins in the NFL and The Cardinals of St Louis. I hate that it had to be the Rockies winning to do it, but whatever.
To listen to Mike Shannon sit there in shock after Smith hit the walk off………Priceless
Nats announcers wondering how San Diego fans will react when the Pads trade AGon later this month.
by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 7, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s usually referred to as a “natural cycle”, assuming you meaning getting the single first, then the double, then the triple, then the HR. According to wikipedia, been done 14 times.
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
Actually, I meant hitting for the cycle annually, like Hudson could be on the verge of doing. It would be exceedingly rare, given how few cycles have been hit in baseball history. Has anyone done it more than once?
he hates all Dodger fans
STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(said with fist in the air and much anger)
by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 7, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Game Thread is up
http://www.truebluela.com/2010/7/7/1557656/dodgers-marlins-finale-chat
The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.
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