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Dodgers Look for Two in a Row versus Chicago


After the brilliant performances of Rafael Furcal and Clayton Kershaw last night, the Dodgers look to take game 2 of a 4 game set against the Chicago Cubs.  On the bump for the Dodgers tonight is Chad Billingsley who has been quite impressive since coming off the disabled list.  Billingsley has allowed 3 earned runs in 12 innings since returning from the disabled list, and with a bullpen that is a definite quesiton mark at this point, the Dodgers will look to Billingsley to give another quality start.  Even though the Dodgers are 2-0 in Billingsley pitched games since he returned to action, Billingsley hasn't gotten a win since May 26th; in Chicago.


Opposing Billingsley with be the Chicago veteran Ted Lilly.  Lilly enters the contest with an ugly looking record of 3-7, while the ERA is solid enough at 3.76.  His peripherals aren't quite as pristine however, as on the year he has an x-FIP of 4.63. 

Who sets up?

As alluded to above and has been discussed in the comments, the Dodgers seem to be a bit thin with legitimate bullpen depth.  Jonathan Broxton is the clear closer and Hong-Chih Kuo is the setup man, but Kuo is limited to pitching every other day. With Ronald Belisario gone, who is called upon on days when Kuo can't go?  I can't imagine the Dodgers will trust the pitchers who lack overpowering stuff in Justin Miller, Travis Schlichting, Carlos Monasterios and Jeff Weaver. George Sherrill has been a trainwreck and Ramon Troncoso is working on getting his sinker to sink again in AAA.  It seems to me that it is as good of a time as any to see if Kenley Jansen can fill that role. While I don't think Jansen should be called up and thrown into high leverage situations immediately, it seems like the time is now to get Jansen some reps at the big league level and see if he can be called upon down the stretch. 

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Belisario updates

Tony Jackson – Belisario still missing from the Dodgers

Torre on what he knows:

I know nothing other than what I said [Wednesday]. If somebody feels I need to know, then I need to know. But as long as they don’t feel I need to know, that’s fine with me.

Torre on getting frustrated with Belisario:

I can’t say frustration just because I don’t know what this is about other than it’s personal. It could be a variety of things. I think we all have personal things we have to deal with, so I can’t really use the word frustration.

Colletti:

When something personal comes up in somebody’s life, whether you’re frustrated or not, when it’s a personal situation, you have to move on and make do. You can’t do anything about it. You can’t change it.

by Jesse S. on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Beyond vague

does anyone really believe Joe knows nothing about this. Just simply say I can’t comment.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Torre doesn't know

which I don’t believe,
Then this orginization is in big trouble.
I agree. Just say “It’s none of your f-ing business”

by runningwiththedevil on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've been down there

Does Joe ever give a short answer like that? Three words?

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

No, he never gives short answers. He might in the beginning, but if you pause long enough, he’ll elaborate. I just find it unbelievable that the manager does not know, unless Ned does not know , and only the player knows and that he asked for time off without an explanation.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It took Matt Kemp a couple of days to go into Joe's office

and Orlando Hudson never did, at least according to him. Maybe Joe isn’t as approachable as we might think or are led to believe.

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by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

I wouldn’t expect the player to impart to Joe the info. I would expect the players agent to impart the info to Ned to get approval to go on the restricted list and it would be strange to me that Ned would not then talk to Joe about the ramifications to the team. Now maybe the player can simply ask to go on the restricted list without giving any information. I don’t know.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am SO glad Verizon just got me reamed by a pissed off customer

I place an order, tell him he will get installed today, they resubmit the order and change the install date to the 14th and dont even tell the customer. So guess who the customer gets mad at when he calls…Wow.

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you work in the Pasadena Parking area of Verizon? :)

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 9, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

Not YET!

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If not Jansen

it would seem that McDonald could certainly help in the pen right now.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually thought about that. If not Jansen, JMac is the other guy who makes the most sense. It seems Jansen should probably get the chance first though as the team is definitely still planning on keeping McDonald as a starter in case one of the current 5 get hurt. Try Jansen out, if he turns out to not be ready yet, you can look to McDonald.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers will acquire Cliff Lee

i have learned deal done with #Rangers, Smoak and 3 others for Lee and reliever Mark Lowe #Rangers, #Mariners

http://twitter.com/joelsherman1

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Whole-e-shit

The Ms actually get a future stud bat…who can help now (a bit).

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha

Could be a great trade for both teams.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it is only 2 innings, but I love seeing Kuo’s 27 k/9 stat there :) And a negative FIP, x-FIP…

by CarolinaDodger on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

doesn't make the Phillies look very smart

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by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

replyfail

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by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, ain't it great

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are 2 people with over a mid 2 ERA

how is that not great?

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two of them with the 0.00 ERA are unavailable

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it averages to a 2.50 ERA with 2 with 0, 2 with mid 5s, and 2 with mid 2s

Might go up to about a 3.00 ERA combined taking into account the volume of innings pitched.

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I meant the pitchers

other then Kuo/Broxton are not awe inspiring. Bunch of soft tossers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The soft tossing is what worries me. Weaver has been fine, but would anybody trust him to come into a 3-2 game in the 8th? I don’t. You want power pitchers to put out the fires. Weaver could turn into Troncoso in a few weeks time.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee to the Rangers

Done deal, says Joel Sherman. We’ll see, I guess.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 9, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Jon Link

10 1/3 scoreless innings.
5 hits
1 BB
9 Ks

He’s ready for the bigs. Bring on ENCINO MAN.

by silverwidow on Jul 9, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Turning Phil Amount to Justin Smoak? Are you serious?

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, the Mariner’s made out like bandits with this whole thing

by CarolinaDodger on Jul 9, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Morrow will also involved

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow is on the Jays. What are you talking about?

by silverwidow on Jul 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was part of the deal

Remember it was a three way between the BlueJays, Phillies, and Mariners. Wasn’t it?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, never mind, seperate trade

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrow was traded a couple of days later for Brandon League a couple of days after.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I got confused

Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies to the Seattle Mariners for J.C. Ramirez (minors), Phillippe Aumont (minors) and Tyson Gillies (minors).

I knew more then Aumont was involved, for some reason I thought it was a three way. What a return for the Mariners, they are the sixth best organization in baseball:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought you were talking about today’s Lee deal.

by silverwidow on Jul 9, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would have rather had Montero, but it screws the Yankees so I’m for it.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

They probably both end up 1st baseman

so we shall be able to see how that turns it out. That is still the Rangers giving up their top prospect.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, still a great move for the Mariners, just think Montero would have been better.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Lowe is out after back surgery but was included nonetheless. Rosenfail adds that the Mariners are sending cash as well.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I do like seeing him scooped…again.

by Little Blue Bicycle on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it’s becoming the norm.

Olney adds it is 2.5 million dollars.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not when the return is the best pitcher in baseball

I don’t see any comparison.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The haul is MUCH better.

Without getting too into the Santana trade again, some have acknowledged that it would have been a big difference if Santana was traded for Manny.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carlos Santana wasn’t a first baseman who hasn’t shown much power. Is Smoak’s ceiling all that high?

Then again that’s what Adrian Gonzalez was when he got traded.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Per Baseball HQ
Strengths: Plus bat speed/BA potential/above average power. Approach. High OBP. Pitch recognition. Agility. Hands. Range.
Weaknesses: Speed. Athleticism.
Comments: Strong hitter with a professional and polished approach can easily maintain BA/OBP while featuring slightly above average pop. Shows strong eye at plate and draws consistently-high number of walks. Standout defender at 1B with solid hands and range. Won’t steal bases and doesn’t have much in the way of athleticism.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did not know he was a switch hitter

no wonder he was traded during July.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The next seven

prospects were all pitchers. Will be curious if the Mariners got any of them.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd think

everyone wants pitching.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonder if Xeifrank

had the odds for the Rangers getting Lee

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

If Lee's ERA soars with the temperatures in Texas this summer

does that hurt him in FA this coming off-season? Texas is a bit of a pitcher’s graveyard, after all.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

No but when they

pitch him every 3rd day to get their money’s worth in Sept it might have some effect:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't hurt CC

who is much larger though.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

younger too

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see on AOL fanhouse

that they said both the Brewers and D-backs are pretty much in sell mode?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Braun would make a nice Left Fielder in 2011:)

Humma would agree I think.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

he said sell

not rebuild lolz

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by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

apparently they were talking about Corey Hart, but the deal fell through.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't you heard about his sub .150 average the last 2 weeks

He’s no good :P

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to do the Loney for Fielder trade:)

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would Mark Reynolds cost

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

my sanity

in watching him strike out more than Russell Martin?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s not fair, Russ probably has a higher OBP. up the middle or to right field Russ, stop pulling.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martin doesn't strike out a ton

Just grounds out weakly…there is a subtle difference :P

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

He still sucks though :)

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kinda wonder

if Reynolds ever did come to the Dodgers, if Donnie Baseball could help him with the K’s

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taken from BBTF
15786. Moses thinks he knows what the hell he’s doing Posted: July 09, 2010 at 05:27 PM (#3583931)
BTW, this fake Dan Gilbert twitter account is kinda funny (@DanGilbertCavs):

    DanGilbertCavs: So help me God, if @THE_REAL_SHAQ continues this assault on Cleveland fans I GUARANTEE I will make a movie that grosses MORE than Kazaam!

    DanGilbertCavs: Oh I see @ogochocinco was running his “mouth”. A traitor right in my own state. I GUARANTEE I WILL WIN A SUPER BOWL MVP BEFORE YOU. Book it.

    DanGilbertCavs: Meet me on the court @KingJames and I SWEAR TO CHRIST that I will BEAT YOU IN H-O-R-S-E. I will show you how to get TO HEAVEN.

    DanGilbertCavs: ANNOUNCEMENT: Every roll of toilet paper in Quicken Loans Arena now has @kingjames face on it.

    DanGilbertCavs: I just took a dump in Lebron’s old locker. It wil stay there as long as I own the team. We will never forget this day.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Few more details

Two pitchers and a position player along with Smoak for Lee and Lowe.

21-year-old righty Blake Beavan is also in the trade.

http://twitter.com/Sullivan_Ranger

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Beavan number one pick in 2007 (17th overall)

has lagged behind the other pitchers in the system but still that is nice as a complement to Smoak.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mariners also get Josh Lueke and Matthew Lawson.

So, it’s Justin Smoak, Blake Beavan, Josh Lueke and Matthew Lawson for Cliff Lee, Mark Lowe and 2.5 million dollars.

http://twitter.com/jonmorosi

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody else remember

When the Rangers couldn’t pitch for shit? Like say, the last 20 years?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

yup

then Nolan Ryan took over and said “Enough of this shit”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have had a lot of high draft picks

to get some pitching. Plus they made that great trade with the Braves to pick up three pitchers with Feliz being the prize.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

i still love

the scouts comment on Feliz before the season.

“He can throw a marshmallow through a battleship”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Ray, the middle reliever SF got for Bengie Molina

5 1/3 IP in relief, 1 H, 0 R, 4 K, 0 BB. Good start.

OTOH, Michael Main, the minor league pitcher they got and promoted to AA, 2 starts, 6 IP, 10 R (6 ER), 7 H, 5 BB, 2 K. Not a good start.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

they wanted Lee now and they didn’t get him. QED.

Being the favs doesn’t mean they didn’t get outhustled on this deal.

The commenter formerly known as El Lay Dave.

by David Young on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be very confident

in a rotation of CC, Hughes, Pettite, Vazquez going against
Garza, Price, Shields, Neiman

certainly not overly so. Still think Hughes is going to have plenty of 2nd have bumps coming up and Pettite will be winded by October.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would be confident if the last out of the game is determined by J.B. Upton and he grounds out to 3rd base.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'd more likely strike out

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what would BJ Upton do?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

struggle to get out of the broom closest his evil twin JB locked him in.

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theres 3 of them now?

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by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

for now

once the other Justin comes from the alternate dimension, there will be a battle.

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!!

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

BA still ranks Dee Gordon, Chris Withrow, Ethan Martin somewhere in the top 50 prospects in their mid season rankings.

Prospects 26-50 (in alphabetical order): Chris Carter, 1b, Athletics; Jared Cosart, rhp, Phillies; Travis d’Arnaud, c, Blue Jays; Randall Delgado, rhp, Braves; Christian Friedrich, lhp, Rockies; Dee Gordon, ss, Dodgers; Grant Green, ss, Athletics; Brett Jackson, of, Cubs; John Lamb, lhp, Royals; Jordan Lyles, rhp, Astros; Ethan Martin, rhp, Dodgers; Shelby Miller, rhp, Cardinals; Mike Minor, lhp, Braves; Wil Myers, c, Royals; Wilson Ramos, c, Twins; Austin Romine, c, Yankees; Wilin Rosario, c, Rockies; Tony Sanchez, c, Pirates; Jonathan Singleton, 1b, Phillies; Jacob Turner, rhp, Tigers; Arodys Vizcaino, rhp, Braves; Brett Wallace, 1b, Blue Jays; Zach Wheeler, rhp, Giants; Alex White, rhp, Indians; Chris Withrow, rhp, Dodgers.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Alex White waves helllllloooooooooooo

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m very surprised.

Lots of graduations to the majors?

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Guys like Posey, Bumgarner, Latos, Smoak, Carlos Santana, Heyward, Strasburg, all have been promoted.

It seems like a weak class of prospects overall.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so

not an inspiring group after the top 15.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Wow, I would have assumed Webster, Miller, and Sands would all be above Martin at this point. I guess it’s refreshing to see Martin not forgotten about.

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miller/Withrow/Martin

are pretty close to equal for me. Webster is still a step down. His K rate isn’t really dominating for Low A ball

by npurcell on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Webster is (supposedly) the only one who has a full arsenal of pitches. Already has command on his curve and change up.

That might be true for Miller as well, but not really for Withrow and Martin. Withrow apparently has very little command of his curve ball.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

webster

for a guy that has a full arsenal of pitches, I expect a higher K rate at lower level like the midwest league.

by npurcell on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not, but he’s still dominating this year, and not allowing many walks if I am correct.

Right now I would order the pitching prospects on the Dodgers like this:

Withrow
Miller
Webster
Martin (though maybe equal with Webster actually)
Eovaldi

Then I don’t know enough about the other SP prospects (not named Mcdonald or Elbert, I am purposely excluding them from this list) to know where they may go.

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by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT

Is any of the parental contingent here going to see Despicable Me?

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't know but those of us

who don’t have kids but like fun movies will be going.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

good Gurnee

i expect another review. Just kidding, but I would like to know how it is, it looks great. I crack up every time I see that little girl with the stuffed animal go “IT’S SO FLUFFY!!!!”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

hm

The only bit i’ve seen was from Carrel being on The Colbert Report, and it was pretty funny.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Stephen was awesome

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeh that was pretty sweet

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was cool because I'd missed Colbert

all week and then I hit the jackpot last night. Carrel’s Corner.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahhahahhahahaha

takes breath ahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal twitter account
#Yankees livid with #Mariners. Believed they had deal, then M’s took it to #Rangers saying put Smoak in and Lee is yours… #MLB

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Yankees add

“We guarantee we’ll win a championship before the so called “6th best organization in baseball”

by Tommy Blackjack on Jul 9, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So that’s another team on their don’t-trade-with list.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curious

do the Yankee’s not trade with us anymore or with Depo in San Diego? Is the guy who freaked out over Depo backing out of the deal even with the Yankee’s anymore?

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

They traded for Gaudin recently.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats how negotiations work?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m seeing it as:

Hey Yankees give us this completely unreasonable offer and you can have Cliff Lee
Okay
Wait wait wait I want to see if I can get Justin Smoak.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats how negotiations work?

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahah

Hilarious. I wonder if it’s at the Braves level of pissed for Furcal and the Dodgers.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what Plaschke would do if the Dodgers traded for a dude who plea bargained a rape charge.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

This is getting crazy.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares about Plashke, I would be none to pleased.

I’m all for giving people a 2nd chance, but rape is not on that list.

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by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think most people would be on board with you.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing

they couldn’t prove that he actually was the one to drug her, based entirely on watching too much SVU recently.

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

He thought it was ecstasy

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allegedly. All he’s technically guilty of is false imprisonment with violence so I guess it’s wrong to lynch the guy, but it looks like the prosecutors couldn’t get an airtight case.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds more like she was hammered. Not that it makes a huge difference.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I don’t get is why Josh Lueke couldn’t afford a suit to wear to court.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

looks like prison clothes.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Details of the alleged night. Obviously NSFW.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disgusting.

No way around it. That’s rape.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Written a couple of days ago by SB Nation Seattle
Seems like if you’re going to take a gamble, better to wager on a player on the way up. After a few unimpressive stints at various levels of A ball, Josh Lueke is now in AA and pairing his menacing visage with a dominant line. He has 26 strikeouts, five walks and two home runs allowed in 18.2 innings pitched. But back to that face for a second.

Bolded for effect.

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2010/7/9/1561949/josh-lueke-is-improving

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder what the Angels will do

Its obvious that the WC is coming out of the East and Ive learned to never doubt Scioscia.. but the Rangers are without a doubt a better club now.. hell they still have a top 3 minor league system, they could easily make another trade.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

So in the future will the player with highest wOBA/WAR win the MVP?
Ryan (Hanover, PA)


Klaw, please help settle this argument. If a player drives in 100 runs, what is the proper way to say that? Is it 100 RBI’s, or 100 RBI? Thanks
Klaw
  (1:04 PM)


The proper thing to do is to forget about RBI or runs scored entirely.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

boom

headshot

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would DEFINITELY not go with best WAR winning the MVP

Last year in the AL that was Zobrist, and while very, very good, was he really an MVP last year? Nope.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why? If he hit really well and played elite defense, that’s an MVP season.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree with that

Zobrist was a top 3 player in the AL for sure last year, if they win 95 games and are in the race who knows what happens.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a lot of noise with Zobrist's UZR rating.

Being used as a true utility man created a bunch of SSS issues with playing a multiple of positions.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying that if a guy hits really well for a month six months in a row it’s sample size issues.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the way UZR handles guys who play multiple positions, it just adds them up, treating the score from LF the same as if its just as difficult to defend as a SS would.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why wouldn’t it work that way? If you save five runs above average as a LF and five runs as a SS that’s 10 runs saved.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the runs you save at SS and the competition you face there is a much higher level than the runs you would save vs. the typical LF.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

These factors are already counted in UZR. If Zobrist really was that much better than the average RF, why shouldn’t he get credit?

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Mauer and Jeter were better, IMO

Plus a TON of Zobrist’s value was in defense, and to me, defense =/= offense. I couldn’t tell you the exact percentage of defense is to offense, but I might say, again to me, it’s about 80% of what offense is worth.

.80 defense
1.00 offense

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

Zobrist was better on the offensive side that year.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I take that back

I know for a fact Zobrist was better.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had a good year offensively, but Mauer and Jeter were both still better.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zobrist had better numbers in HR, 2b, 3b, BB, wOBA, his ISO was 100 points better.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was wrong on Jeter. Mauer was still better in most categories though, correct?

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zobrist was 40 runs offense, 22 defense.

The defense/offense ratio calculations because offensive runs are a lot easier to compile than defensive runs. The most runs you can reasonably save on defense is 30 (this is beyond elite), while a great hitter will get 50 batting runs.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

*The defense/offense ratio calculations are already there

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you add in replacement and positional and the offense doesn’t dominate nearly as much.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That just means offense from a middle infielder is more valuable than offense from a corner outfielder. Defense isn’t a factor.

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Position qualifies as defense. I’m talking about looking at offense alone.

Batting – 40.2 Fielding 22.8 Replacement – 20.0 Positional -0.5

Batting – 56.0 Fielding -1.0 Replacement – 20.2 Positional – 5.0

I will take the 2nd one every time, though I didn’t realize just how good Zobrist was with the bat last year.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess, but you do realize that replacement number just goes up the more you play and has nothing to do with position, right?

by regfairfield on Jul 9, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was kind of thinking about that defensively for some reason, not just overall as a player

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

But combined with his career best defense (or close to it)

He was better overall.

Scratch that, I just looked and I’m dead wrong about Jeter. I still believe Mauer had a clear advantage, but Zobrist deserved at least 2nd.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely hilarious Lebron Spoofing

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-decision-outfield-version/

I was cracking up at this.

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously?

An Scout Inc. Analyst for ESPN just got arrested for child porn. Just reported on Sportscenter.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Dennis Green's Son

According to the Hartford Courant

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jul 9, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was who we thought he was!

"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"

by Ivdown on Jul 9, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnson not starting against Lilly?

DodgertownUSA #Dodgers lineup: Furcal 6 Carroll 4 Ethier 9 Kemp 8 Loney 3 Blake 5 Martin 2 Paul 7 Billingsley 1

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, it’s not Anderson at least.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

by mleadman on Jul 9, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lilly is reverse split guy but still it’s very un-Torre. Giving Paul a shot against a lefty.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome. I’ve got Giants/Nats on MLB Network. Cain and Strasburg.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

So mad.. have to do to the HR Derby. much rather go to the Futures Game

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Cubs starting their house money lineup I guess

Fukudome RF, Theriot 2B, Lee 1B, Ramirez 3B, Byrd CF, Colvin LF, Fontenot SS, Hill C, Lilly P

per http://www.rotoinfo.com/comments-latestfromTwitter-32232.html

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Lefty heavy if anything.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to tell the Giants that they are not playing the Brewers anymore.

by NotJoeTorre on Jul 9, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Webster pitching for great lakes right now..

on MILB tv. someone with an accout..scout him please :)

by npurcell on Jul 9, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

what a smug looking bird

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far

K looking, single, steal, walk, sac fly, walk, single, lineout. 1IP 2ER 2BB 1K. Raising his ERA to 2.86.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, error on Cain.

Went to pick off the runner at 2nd but stopped his throw halfway and the ball slipped out of his hand and went into left field.

Bernadina scored. Tied at 1 after one.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

From Dodger Divorce
From my vantage point,[about the Rangers bankruptcy and sale] this has major implications for the Dodgers’ situation. If a federal judge directs the Rangers to be sold at auction, Major League Baseball will surely fight to uphold its own constitution, which mandates approval of new owners by the affirmative vote of at least 75 percent of current owners. Bankruptcy courts are a little different than other federal courts, in that they can be a little more…well, cavalier. Better put, a bankruptcy judge is less likely to worry about a decision’s impact on outside parties than a standard federal district court judge might.


But the precedent has largely the same effect. If the Rangers are sold at auction, with disregard for MLB’s rules, we might find out just how serious Jamie is about owning the team. If she wins on the post-nup, she can rely on the Rangers sale in her own pursuit of the Dodgers (presumably with the help of additional investors). If a judge in a bankruptcy court can determine the buyer in a judicially-directed sale, she will argue, doesn’t that mean Commissioner Gordon can do largely the same thing?


I continue to believe Frank is in a good position on the post-nup, though another close watcher of the situation has privately expressed the opposite opinion of late. In any case, I’ve always felt Jamie’s gambit had a dead end of sorts: there’s no way she gets 75% of baseball’s owners to approve a potential bid. Not at this point. However, the possible court-ordered auction sale of the Rangers might give her new hope. You can bet her attorneys will be watching closely. We will be.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Get that bitch away from my team

Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.

by nolander on Jul 9, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric would have to use his powers if Jamie gets the team

his seductive powers.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

She doesn’t have the capital to buy the team outright. If Jamie wins, the McCourts become very small minority owners.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, same as with Frank, she’ll have to bring in partners to 1) buy out Frank and 2) recapatilize the team.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which is why we should root for a Jamie McCourt win. Its the fastest way to get rid of them unless you’re a fan of Frank McCourt.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, not you or Deliasman. :)

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bankruptcy courts are a little different than other federal courts, in that they can be a little more…well, cavalier. Better put, a bankruptcy judge is less likely to worry about a decision’s impact on outside parties than a standard federal district court judge might.

I completely agree. I expect an auction will happen and the judge will tell everybody else (MLB) to go fuck themselves. The bankruptcy judge is fundamentally concerned with the estate and creditors (secured and unsecured.) The judge simply won’t care what MLB thinks about it.

by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see an auction playing out as

Some rich guy/group looking to buy a major MLB franchise on the cheap (Forbes just valued the Dodgers at $727MM) in the hopes of flipping the team for a several hundred million dollar windfall.

On the flip side, Forbes says the Dodgers only bring in about $250MM per year, with half of that going to players.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Selig is putting a different spin on the situation. According to him, MLB will still have the right to approve a new owner:

http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4506:selig-pleased-texas-rangers-auction-will-respect-mlbs-right-to-choose-owner&catid=70:mlb-club-sales&Itemid=157

People don't think it be like this, but it do.

by MartinGreen on Jul 9, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee

Is Lee pitching tonight?

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 9, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

He was supposed to, but now he has a plane to catch. The Yankees should be happy about that little consolation prize.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like I will start Cano!

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 9, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point

wouldn’t you start Cano anyway?

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has had a bad week and a half and has been horrible against Lee, so no

by robotmadeofnails on Jul 9, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLBTR
The Marlins, Brewers, Orioles, Phillies, Yankees, Dodgers and Red Sox watched Mark Prior pitch, according to Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse (Twitter link). The 29-year-old Prior is making a comeback.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/06/mark-prior-to-audition-for-mlb-teams.html

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 4:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Montero>Smoak

Mariners should have taken Montero.

by npurcell on Jul 9, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

They apparently got a couple lower-level prospects who were “untouchable” yesterday. Either way, they definitely got back more than they gave up for him last summer.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phillippe Aumont (P) PHI – A+ 7/9/2010
Aumont allowed two runs on four hits while striking out 13 and walking two in six innings Thursday at High-A Clearwater.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still

It’s still a High-A prospect versus a low-20 something guy who was starting in the big leagues this year plus 3. Seeing as how Smoak will play quickly, it’s hard to argue with either scenario.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

just ran across this right after I read your comment and thought I’d post it. Phillipe had been projected as a relief pitcher so it was interesting that he’s now being used as a starter.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Problem is that he’s back down to high-A. He was pitching in AA last year and this year.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

both yanks and ranger packages were a lot better then what the Phils got. lol.

by npurcell on Jul 9, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smoak is supposed to be Teixeira-lite. He’ll eventually put up high OBPs but won’t have the same power.

by silverwidow on Jul 9, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta love Seth Etherton starting in AAA.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe this came out earlier

But Blalock was released and is a free agent. Anyone interested?

by EephusBlue on Jul 9, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I am going to the game today.

by draft dodger on Jul 9, 2010 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Is Lilly going to be pitching from the rubber tonight or in front of it again?

by vadodger on Jul 9, 2010 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Lilly hasn’t pitched from the rubber since 2003.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there a rule on that?

Can opposing teams (managers?) appeal to the umpire?

by berkowit28 on Jul 9, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The umpire can warn the pitcher, and then assign balks or an balls to the pitcher.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got these notes from Jon over at the mothership

Clayton Kershaw has also been chosen by Joe Torre to start the Dodgers’ first game after the All-Star break, but right now it doesn’t appear he’ll end up matching up with Strasburg. That could change, of course. Hiroki Kuroda, Chad Billingsley, Vicente Padilla and John Ely will follow Kershaw.

So, there’s the order. Kuroda is lined up to face Strasburg for now.

Also, Reed Johnson has a sore back. That’s why Paul is starting.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

It gives Paul a chance. But he hasn’t been going too well this week.

by berkowit28 on Jul 9, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, Liriano got torched today

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know

the other Toronto guys took some of that hit. Liriano got five out,six hits, seven earned runs.
Romero got seven outs, nine hits , five earned runs.

Patience is for those who die waiting for something to happen

by Phil Gurnee on Jul 9, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Webster 8 BB's, 1 K in 3.2 IP

For a guy who has had good control up until now that line almost makes me think he has to be hurt.

by CanuckDodger on Jul 9, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

yeesh

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Jul 9, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anybody else know Loney is leading the league in LD%?

that jumped out at me today

http://www.dingersblog.com

by dingers on Jul 9, 2010 5:52 PM PDT reply actions  

line drive %? is that what the LD is?

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yunel Escobar is just awful. Playing like crap and he’s lazy on defense.

Almost got Glaus destroyed on a lazy poor lollipop throw. Glaus is pissed at Escobar.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting

Jose Reyes open to playing other positions. Can you imagine an infield of Dee Gordon and Jose Reyes up the middle? Nothing drops.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

7-1 Nats

Adam Dunn killing it. Another HR.

Five home runs in three games!

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

SD vs. COL

It’s sort of a lose-lose for us – Rockies overtaking us and/or Padres zooming far ahead. The best we can hope for is that they split 2-2 while we sweep the Cubs. The outcome is highly unlikely to be that good for us. More likely is one of them goes 3-1, while we split 2-2 or also go up 3-1 vs. the Cubs. Tricky. And lots of ways to go worse than that outcome. Here goes.

by berkowit28 on Jul 9, 2010 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Doesn’t really matter what happens so long as the Dodgers win. So, here’s to a four game sweep of the Cubs!

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, it’s just a three game series in Colorado. 2 out of 3 either way is fine with me.

by Alex41592 on Jul 9, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I missed that. Yeah, OK, that’s the most likely result, and our first game already decided in our favor. It’s just like a 3-game series for everyone from this moment. Right.

by berkowit28 on Jul 9, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

I’m rooting for the Padres against the field. We crush the Padres, they keep everyone else down, win win.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im off to see the A's struggle with the Angels

and my obligatory statement:
We are gonna win tonight!

by EephusBlue on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Heard that Seattle asked for packages including Loney or Billingsley in return for Cliff Lee. about 1 hour ago via txt Retweeted by 4 people

Dylan Hernandez

Fuck you #6org

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Good for Ned

Thank you, again, for not succumbing to the Plashke Pressure. You know, that annoying pressure in your chest you get after eating something undercooked, too fat and full of hot air.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I would have traded Loney in the package. Needed to know who else was in it though.

by Tripon on Jul 9, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe.

Without Manny, Blake and Furcal’s health constantly up in the air, it may not have mattered much if we had Lee if Loney couldn’t play. You’d be looking at a Belliard 1B situation this year.

based on what was reportedly offered by the Twins and Yankees, I wouldn’t be surprised if the “package surrounding Loney or Billingsley” meant “Loney, Withrow, Gordon and Martin” or some crazy thing like that. I still think the difference between Cliff Lee and what we have isn’t that huge.

by G.Scott on Jul 9, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

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