Dodger Bats Explode as Los Angeles Beats Cubs
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 10:14 PM PDT
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PrintAfter a few quiet nights, the Los Angeles Dodger bats woke up as beat the Chicago Cubs 9-7. After falling behind 1-0 in the top of the second inning, the Dodgers put three runs on the board in the bottom of the frame thanks to a Russell Martin 3 run home run; his first since May 11th. The Dodgers punished Ted Lilly all night, as Lilly only lasted 3.2 innings and surrendered 7 runs (5 earned.) After Martin, the all-star Andre Ethier led the way for the Dodgers with 3 hits of his own. Every Dodger starter recorded a hit in the contest.
Chad Billingsley lacked his best stuff, but certainly got the job done. Billingsley worked out of some trouble early in the contest and was able to pitch 7 innings and get his first win since the end of May (also against the Cubs.) In his 7 innings pitched, Billingsley struck out 9 and surrendered 7 hits, 4 earned runs (one surrendered by Miller and Sherrill) and 4 walks. After Billingsley came in to start the 7th (despite having thrown 120 pitches in a 6 run game,) Torre called on one of his half dozen pitcher he had warm up in George Sherrill who promptly gave up a line drive double and was pulled (another solid outing for George.) Justin Miller relieved Sherrill, retired the first batter and then allowed 2 runs; one Billingsley's on a wild pitch and the other Sherrill's.
Miller would start the 9th inning but after allowing a leadoff single, Joe Torre saw fit to bring in his closer Jonathan Broxton to secure the win. Broxton would end up surrendering two runs (one charged to Miller) before closing out the game. Not the prettiest end to the game for the Dodger bullpen or manager.
WP - Chad Billingsley (7-4): 7 IP, 7 hits, 4 runs, 4 walks, 8 strikeouts
LP - Ted Lilly (3-8): 3.2 IP, 7 hits, 7 runs (5 earned), 2 walks, 1 strikeout
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He didn’t warm up on Wednesday. The Josh Johnson game.
Dodgers/Cliff Lee talk
Tony Jackson is claiming via a source that we offered ‘every valuable prospect except for one’ in these trade discussions.
Jackson’s guess is that the untouchable prospect was Gordon, which I find hard to believe.
That would not be the guy I would protect at all costs.
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t see how this applies to my post. Jackson’s speculation was largely based on Gordon’s pre-season hype by BA. It’s pretty clear that he’s no longer an untouchable type of player based on his performance.
BA still ranked Gordon as a top 50 prospect in their mid season rankings, Keith Law said last week that Gordon is still a valuable player that is looked highly despite his struggles at AA, and that this was expected of him because he was still raw and jumped two levels.
It’s not surprising that BA has him ranked in their top 50 since they’re big toolsy players.
But is Gordon the most valuable prospect in the system? Absolutely not. Starting pitching with #1/2 potential will always be far more of a commodity. Which is why Withrow was likely the unnamed prospect.
It was probably Withrow.
Ned is many things, but he knows the value of a good pitching prospect. Or rather the organization does.
Remember last year when he was on 710 ESPN
Basically described Withrow as a future ace? Then he said that Dee Gordon could be the next best position guy..
by Julio Nievas on Jul 10, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year
was the year to get Lee. As a 3 month rental, I’m glad someone else stepped up to overpay.
by Capt Obvious on Jul 9, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Conspiracy time!
Torre is running his bullpen into the ground because he won’t be here next year. I base this on absolutely nothing.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
His bullpen usage is no different than last year
This year at the break (86 games), 279 IP. Last year 306 IP
Wow, I'm feeling just about dead at the moment
Played basketball for a couple hours tonight, 4 games total. Man I need to work up my stamina, lol.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Do you play in a league?
If so, where?
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but that would be really fun
Every couple of Fridays I go after work and play at a park in Simi Valley. I’m more of a non-shooting type of player, mostly because I play with Kobe Bryant (wait, it’s not Kobe, just someone who loves the ball as much) and he likes to go 1 on 3 or 4 trying to lay it in while myself and 2 others are wide open…that doesn’t get annoying….
I want to start playing at least once a week, it’s a really good workout. I also want to start playing slow pitch softball in a league, that is really fun.
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
Fisher meeting with Miami
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=5368129
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
BTW
Last year the Dodgers played 88 games up to the ASB, Broxton pitched in 38 games and a little over 40 innings.
This year, in 86 games thus far, Broxton has pitched in 39 games and a little more than 39 innings,
I seem to recall him losing effectiveness in the second half.
by mightylakers on Jul 9, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
2.04 ERA last season in the 2nd half.
3.10 in the first half
by Michael White on Jul 9, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
See? He was more than 50% worse!
The Ultimate Ned's Kind of Guy
by Humma Kavula on Jul 10, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
You know its more than that. Its the pace that Torre used him.
April: 8.2 innings
May: 14.2 innings
June: 10.1 innings
July: 3.2 so far
Its a problem
when he is noticeably losing velocity in games he is pitching. You telling me that isn’t a concern?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
made the long drive down 395
towing a trailer it sure is long, got vinny for the 1st 3 innings then stuck with charlie with no rick. did a standard gm interview with ned the 6th to 7th or so. listening to charlie sure makes me appreciated Mr Sculley.
Seattle asked for Billinglsey or Loney for Lee
anybody mention that yet? Loney may be dissapointing, but would you give him up for a 3 month rental? http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5368224
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Loney is having his best career year since he came up.
If anything, Billingsley has been more disappointing since he’s only been an average pitcher according to ERA+.
Billingsley has struggled at times
but shown flashes of greatness though. Loney is having a great year, but still lacks the power one would want in a 1b. I love both of them and don’t think I would want to trade either for Lee personally, I just wanted to see what others thought.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
No way I do those deals
but I have to agree about Bills. His great 2008 season is becoming more and more distant in the rear view with a lot of mediocrity since, and he’s going to be getting very expensive soon, so its time to nut up or shut up as they say.
I’ve been hard on Loney but this year he’s been good and is buying himself a little more time.
by Capt Obvious on Jul 9, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
You apparently are watching a different Billingsley
He was lights out in the first half last year, then horrible in the second half. Horrible for the first month this year, and pretty damn good since. Where is the mediocrity again?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
1.5 yrs
of sub 100 ERA+, but yes he was terrific before then and in spurts during this time. I didn’t say I was giving up on him did I?
by Capt Obvious on Jul 10, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you miss the point on purpose?
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Now you've lost me
What exactly is your point?
by Capt Obvious on Jul 10, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions
that at no point has he really been mediocre
He has either been great, or horrible. After his horrible start against cincy he went 9 games 47 ip 3.00 era before getting injured and giving up 7 against Anahiem(the game before he went on the DL). Since he has pitched 19 innings giving up 7 runs, one of which was because Torre threw him out there tonight in the eighth when he had already thrown almost 120 pitches. What exactly does nutting up constitute to you?
That sure seems to be nutting up to me. I really don’t get where your criticism of bills is coming from right now.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Bills is the shit
And trading him for Lee woulda been a disaster. Im glad the Front Office isnt THAT dumb.
I think at this point, you’re just splitting hairs over the term ‘mediocre’ and arguing for the sake of arguing. Go right ahead, I’m done.
by Capt Obvious on Jul 10, 2010 3:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ERA plus isn't a great way to judge players, or not the best let's say
"You're the only woman to ever love me." "I never loved you." "I meant physically!"
key words are "packages including"
wasnt billingsley or loney. was bills + prospect + throw in most likely..
by hee came hee seop'd he choi'd on Jul 10, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Asking for Billingsley for a 3 month rental was insane, asking for loney, depnding on the other type of prospects might not actually be insane.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I thought Torre's bad move was having Billingsley start the 8th at his pitch count..
Even if he lets say gets the Cubs out in order, he could have very easily gotten close to 130 pitches..
Not sure why you stretch a guy like that out in a blow out game.
Torre did say after the game last night that if the team had been up 3 or 4 runs (like tonight), he would have let Kershaw pitch the 9th inning. That’s the difference – with a 6-run lead in the 8th, he thought all was well. Famous last words. At least the Cubs aren’t the Yankees so couldn’t smash the pitchers in 8th and 9th to the same degree.
Corey Patterson hits a grand slam
off Feliz to tie the game at 6. Big rain delay so this game is still going.
I went to the game!
I liked that we shelled Lily early, though once again Torre is overusing Broxton, going to him in a non-save situation. Im not sure how accurate the gun at the stadium is but his fastball was around 92-94, maybe his arm is tired? I havent kept tabs on some of his recent outings.
The two funny parts of the night was watching Sherrill throw 1 pitch only to get the hook and the fat drunk guy a row down from me chanting “Bring back Gagne!”
Not unexpected. If you’re willing to drive drunk, you probably drink enough to have a problem with it.
I gotta think it was a substance harder than alcohol. There’s alot of baseball players that drink, and not many go into rehab during the middle of the season.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
Speculation much? Let's wait til they tell us what he's in for. If it's for alcohol (which is indeed possible)
then good on him for doing rehab. We just have to wish him the best and hope he’s back on the field where he belongs, and healthier for it.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
the toupee protects him from that
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
it was a joke
perhaps I should have put a disclaimer on it.k
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
not sure where that k came from at the end of my post
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
my comment was aimed at everyone speculating not just you
;-)
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
As far I can can discover via Google, every kind of absence for substance abuse treatment is supposed to put a guy on the DL.
A trip to the restricted list means I can’t believe everything I read on the Internet. Next, you’ll tell me that I didn’t win the Nigerian lottery, and that Angelina Jolie doesn’t really want to be my Facebook friend.
What a downer.
People don't think it be like this, but it do.
Off the wall, maybe missed by 3-4 feet or so?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
ah man he has been smoking it (maybe too soon given Belli's situation?)
But either right at people or just shy of out
yeah
it almost scaled the wall, very close.
by draft dodger on Jul 9, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So I was at the A's Angels game in Oakland tonight
and I was so tempted to ask the fans how bummed they are that the Rangers now have Cliff Lee
Cliff Lee is ML -310 tomorrow against the Orioles
which works out to a 75.6% win probability. Crazy! But the simulator says the Rangers chances of winning are 77.3%.
You'll all like this
my buddy on facebook today:
Chris: Broxton Sucks
Me: Best closer in the game. Blame Joe Torre for being a fucktard. Broxton has pitched 6 games in a row and 12 of 15. What the hell?
Chris: You can name stats if you want. I always see him give up walks, hits, and runs.
Me: Pitchers tend to do that. All I pointed out was how overused he is. He went from throwing 100mph 3 weeks ago to throwing 93. No wonder he’s getting hit.
I think I’m inadvertently friends with bearface
You should tell your friend to watch just about every other team's closer and bullpen
before opining on Broxton. He has no perspective it sounds like, being in a Dodger-enclosed world. Broxton has been lights out especially in comparison with how pitchers pitch at the end of games for other teams. This cracks me up, it’s like those Dodger fans who said Papelbon is better, because, you know, he pitches for Boston, Peter Gammons loves him etc. They haven’t watched Papelbon this year. Basically your friend is full of shit.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers/Lakers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants/Warriors country, and damned proud of it.
Kenley Jansen
I’m assuming everyone pronounces his name as it reads, but since he’s from the Netherlands, do you think the J is soft? Pronounced yahn-sen?
You're right Julio...
It sounds Yanh-sen…
Louise Bourgoin: The hottest French actress I've ever seen <3
Just reading DT and I didn't know that we were playing in St Louis
right out of the break.
I have been to 6 Dodger games the last 3 years in St Louis. We are 1-5. Hopefully me not being in attendance will push us over the top this year. My wife will be out of town all week and weekend so I will be at home. I will miss St Louis, but not us losing!
St. Louis
I am going to the opening game of the series. Looks like Kershaw is going to pitch against Carpenter. I can’t wait! I love wearing blue in a sea of red.
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The one game I went to last year was the one game they one in the series. It was quite sweet
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Keith,
Because of my wife we are getting some fancy seats in the BofA club. I know there are seats inside. Do you happen to know if you can sit outside in that area, also?
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know.
I usually sit out in LC by the Dodger BP. 3 years ago Brad Penny played catch with a kid in the stands right beside me for about 10 minutes. Every time the kid dropped the ball, Penny would yell “You’re gonna get me in trouble if someone get hurt.” It was funny.
Haha
From what I hear he seems like a good guy.
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I usually don’t either. Haha.
Are there any restaurants or casinos you recommend hitting up? I have only been to St. Louis once.
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m staying at the Millenium….I’m hoping it’s a decent place.
by Tommy Told Me To Bleed Blue on Jul 10, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
The train or subway
station that is right beside the stadium goes right into downtown and you can hit up any number of resturaunts/bars. It is like $3 for a pass.
Mostly with Vin
There will be very few periods without Vin from now until the end of the season, and only once where it’s more than a single series at a time. After the 4-day series in St. Louis just after the break, there are 6 days in the middle of August in Philly and Atlanta, a 3-day trip to Milwaukee a week later (after two series at home), and just one more 4-day trip to Houston starting the 9th of September. And that’s it. Everything else is either at home or elsewhere in the NL West.
Keith Law on the futures game, also ranking their overall prospect status within the teams.
23. Dee Gordon, SS, LA Dodgers: The Dodgers took a big risk promoting Gordon two levels to AA, and as predicted he’s struggled at the plate, with poor pitch recognition leading to all-around trouble on offense. He’s a plus runner and a potential Gold Glover at short, and he has the hands and bat speed to hit for average. His father is Tom “Flash” Gordon.
unranked
Pedro Baez, 3b, LA Dodgers: Has bat speed and some pop, with a plus arm at third, but is unrefined across the board, notably in plate discipline and instincts in the field. He’s had knee trouble as well, limiting the reps he needs to improve as a hitter.
Potential Gold Glover at ss?
Is that because of his range? Because isn’t his fielding awful?
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